The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: MJNSEIFER on November 21, 2013, 06:37:56 AM
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This will be long for some, I deeply apologise, and hope you understand.
Before any one says so, yes I realize that Hasbro do want to sell toys, and yes I realize that the shows are advertising the toys in the sense that, if someone saw a pony (or something else) that they liked, they'd want it, and Hasbro know this, obviously, but I have never bought into the view that that's all they were; just a commercial to sell toys, with nothing else to them.
What I basically mean is, I have seen people talk about My Little Pony (mostly pre-FIM, and I'll argue about that later) as if is nothing more than a show where they just show their latest toys, in cartoon form, and don't bother with the actual show itself, i.e. they don't care about the animation, voice, or storyline or anything - they just care about showing viewers what their latest pony, and playset looks like, creating an excuse to show it, and not bothering with the storylines, or creating relatable characters themselves.
I disagree to this; I do see how any generation (including G4) can be used to encourage its viewers into buying the toys, but I always felt it was done in a subtle way, and not in a ♫"Buy all our playsets and toys!"♫ kind of way, like everyone seems to say when they look back on MLP. Basically, it doesn't seem forced down our throats as everyone says, not that there weren't some moments, and even then, it seemed like they at least tried to make them fit in to the plot.
Take G1; The most blatant form of advertising it did (and not everyone would realize that, that is what they were doing) is that when the show first started they kept replacing characters so they could keep up with the toyline (which in hindsight was kind of silly, and they mostly realized it even before G1 became Tales), but even when a pony was "at risk" of being a one shot character, the main ones had enough of a personality to be more than just a talking commercial (perhaps too much of a personality in places; some one shot characters looked like set-ups for a later episode - Ember springs to mind here.) Other than that, everything that got introduced seemed to fit in to the show, it wasn't like they just advertised it once, and then didn't bother; For example, the My Little Pony movie (which my friend gave me recently, and I love it) was apparently criticized for being nothing more than a commercial for Flutter Ponies, and Paradise Estate. Now, why they were certainly introduced in the movie it's not like they weren't ever used again, nor is it like they weren't given a reason to exist in the movie itself. Finally, everything else that happened in the movie was enough so that the movie didn't look like a commercial, it could have easily been just a show, not a show based on a toyline, and no one would have noticed the difference.
Tales actually had more show original ponies than toyline ponies, and most of the toyline ponies made sense in the show's storyline; The main characters were part of the "7 Friends" toyline, the Glow and Show Ponies were "magical" enough for their "out of this world" appearance, the Rockin' Beats (who didn't exactly resemble their toys) appeared whenever the show needed a band... it wasn't blatant advertising it was just including ponies they already "had" in a sense, and Tales actually had less toyline appearances that G4, which is supposedly less of a commercial...
G3, from the look of it is a good attempt of what G1 should have been in terms of wanting to keep showing different ponies, yet (unlike G1) manages to retain a more "main cast" feel. While Tales, G3.5, and G4 clearly do have a main cast, G1 and G3 do not (though G3 semi has one, as certain ponies were shown more than others, and G1 also attempted this toward the end of its run). However, G3 does what G1 probably should have done if it really had to keep replacing ponies, and that's include the ponies it wasn't using in the background, and also alternate the main characters rather than just replace them all together - it looked like a real world in a way, when a character wasn't in the spotlight, she still existed. G3 probably had the best method of advertising with in its show, it managed to include enough characters in the show without having to get rid of a ton to do so, which is where G1 failed in that respect, in my opinion.
But am I saying that G3 is nothing more than a blatant commercial? Absolutely not, I adore G3, and find it to actually be very heart-warming with very relatable characters and storylines, and like all generations, it never looks like is forcefully showing you all the things you can buy. Even when you can guess that there has to be a toy of it somewhere, it always fits in to the show, and one could easily be fooled into thinking the show came first, and the toys were based on the show.
Also, I saw someone say that A Charming Birthday was "clearly written to sell toys", can anyone please explain how he or she arrived at this conclusion? The only "commercial" part I saw was that each character was introduced very clearly, and that was obviously more due to the fact that it was the first episode, more than the actual toyline - it was an "introduction" episode, the same way G4's pilot was.
I need to refamilliarise myself with G3.5, it's been a while since I watched any episodes.
G4 or Friendship is Magic is once again viewed as the exception to the rule, but that once again is for one main reason; the fans thinking this haven't looked at the older generations enough to realize that FIM is no more a blatant commercial, and no less a blatant commercial that the others; in that it clearly advertises, in that Hasbro know if we something we like, we buy, but has more to it than that.
So yeah, I don't see it. Sorry about this post, I realize it was long.
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When I see people say that MLP shows are "a blatant commercial" to me it doesn't mean necessarily that they are written poorly or are frivolous, but that they exist to sell the merchandise.
There are many cartoons out there where the cartoon was invented first, and the toys came after, when the cartoon got popular enough. Executives see that the cartoon has a following and they think "Oh, we can make some extra merchandise and kids will buy them because they like the show." This is not true with cartoons like MLP. For MLP, the toys came first and the cartoon came later, not because the cartoon was popular (though like with FiM it can easily become a very popular show) but because Hasbro wants to sell the toys. Toys that have a cartoon for children to connect to just sell better than toys without such a connection.
Does this mean that shows that are "a blatant commercial" are bad shows? No. It also doesn't mean that there's no thought put into the characters, storylines, setting, etc. It just means the show exists only because the toys exists, rather than visa versa. The show got made because Hasbro wants kids to connect to the toys. The cartoon sells the toys. The cartoon is a 20-min commercial.
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I can say from what I remember as a kid the stories truly moved me and alot of the times I did'nt even know there were products to be bought to go with them.
My first pony was Clover and I got her before Tales aired in Sweden.
I remember being excited to see her on the show but I don't think I ever considered that the others were available to get as well, atleast not till I was older ( and too insecure to say I still wanted ponies)
Still enjoy the stories and honestly I wish that Tales would have been MORE of a commercial, they never even made toys of the boys or the families in that show ( which is sad because I want them! XD )
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With Hasbro using FIM as an excuse to re-release the same stuff over and over again, one would think FIM is the best commercial out there. Produce less new stuff and still have people eat it up. Pretty brilliant really.
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Sweetie Belle's Gum House Surprise
That is all.
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I started collecting My Little Pony before there was a cartoon, or at least before I ever saw it - ya know some people need to be reminded, this was back in the day when a lot of people could only get a few TV channels, there were not 500 channels and no internet available. Not everyone had access to watching the specials or cartoon when it first showed up.
So technically I can say I liked ponies without the influence of the program or other people bombarding me with visual MLP information; like what we have online now.
I was exposed to the toy before the cartoon so it didn't really play a part into me collecting or liking MLP.
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When I see people say that MLP shows are "a blatant commercial" to me it doesn't mean necessarily that they are written poorly or are frivolous, but that they exist to sell the merchandise.
There are many cartoons out there where the cartoon was invented first, and the toys came after, when the cartoon got popular enough. Executives see that the cartoon has a following and they think "Oh, we can make some extra merchandise and kids will buy them because they like the show." This is not true with cartoons like MLP. For MLP, the toys came first and the cartoon came later, not because the cartoon was popular (though like with FiM it can easily become a very popular show) but because Hasbro wants to sell the toys. Toys that have a cartoon for children to connect to just sell better than toys without such a connection.
Does this mean that shows that are "a blatant commercial" are bad shows? No. It also doesn't mean that there's no thought put into the characters, storylines, setting, etc. It just means the show exists only because the toys exists, rather than visa versa. The show got made because Hasbro wants kids to connect to the toys. The cartoon sells the toys. The cartoon is a 20-min commercial.
I agree here. The only reason why the shows exist is to sell toys. They want the shows to be engaging to seal the deal so they hire people who are reasonably good at creating a story and then dictate what toys need to sell.
On the other hand, there is no reason why anyone who works on these projects wouldn't love doing it and want it to be successful. I love my job and no matter what it is, I put my best into it. I'm sure the show creators and even the toy creators feel proud when someone compliments their work.
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Life is a blatant commercial, enjoy what you want and do not over think it. You shall live longer that way.
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I feel the same way! To me, calling something "a blatant commercial" means it has little value or purpose outside of being an advertisement, or at very least, that it's *obviously* an ad first and anything else an afterthought, and for the most part, I don't see that as the case with the MLP cartoons (well, G1 and G4...I've seen almost nothing of the G3 animations, so I can't comment on those). Maybe that's not what others mean when they say that, but that's always been my understanding of it, since what makes it "blatant' or obvious if not some sort of lack of quality or effort? A cartoon in theory could be subtle, not "blatant," in it's purpose of selling toys. Or maybe I just don't see it because although I had the toys first, I became a fan through MLP & Friends and didn't even know the things and characters in the cartoon existed as toys. But then, like I said, if it were "blatantly a commercial," I think I would have figured this out sooner. I don't think I was that dense.
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I pretty much agree with what Diamond and Elisto said.
In the most non-insult way I can say this - I really don't think anyone here actually knows what they're talking about. And MJ it doesn't look like you grew up with what most of us here did. You can study up on anything, but you cannot replicate an experience.
Put yourself in a child's mind. These toys are not for us now, remember. What child would not love to see their favorite toy characters come to life so they can develop deeper relationships with them and see how they interact with others? And what child would not love to see a fun episode from a show they love and then be able to take it home and play with that set and make their own adventure? IE, A Very Charming Birthday. If anything I saw G3 as a commercial, or more like a desperate attempt to salvage what was left of a simmering toy line.
Commercial or not, Hasbro has given us some of the best memories of our childhood because we fell into their "trap". They have created an alternative to cut-and-paste toys and shows and have also created a piece of collector history.
I'm sorry you or anyone sees something (that you claim to love even) so negatively. Remember.. Hasbro, and nothing of our fandom, owes us anything. So just enjoy it.
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I don't really care if they are commercials or not. *shrug* I enjoy them and I enjoy ponies.
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I'm sorry you or anyone sees something (that you claim to love even) so negatively. Remember.. Hasbro, and nothing of our fandom, owes us anything. So just enjoy it.
I don't think OP was being negative at all.
I grew up loving ponies but my family did not have a TV till I was 10, then I saw the show and fell in love with the different series as well.
For me, I feel OP is right in saying that even though the series were created for commercial purposes; the stories still had depth and value beyond that.
Sounds pretty positive to me :)
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well, i am with diamond on this.
everything you see on tv is to make money, there are jobs behind it and people work hard to get thier paycheck. ;)
you can also see the toys as a commercial for the show. ;)
i don´t think it takes the messages from the show just because people get paid for thier work on the show. and i personally like it if a show or concept is available on many "layers" like, music, show, toys, apparel, electronics and so on. ^^ i like to have symbols of characters and themes that make me happy around me, so why not on my socks?
yay for merchandise!
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When I see people say that MLP shows are "a blatant commercial" to me it doesn't mean necessarily that they are written poorly or are frivolous, but that they exist to sell the merchandise.
I don't really care if they are commercials or not. *shrug* I enjoy them and I enjoy ponies.
What was said above; my view will be based on G1 only. Yes, they are commercials, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaWeUoH7_lk) not peerless works of art. However, My Little Pony was not made for the 20-something me so I don't think it's a very good starting point to judge anything.
The cartoons worked for me as a kid, both as stories and as commercials. If memory serves, I was introduced to the (G1) show before the toys, and it must have been the show that taught me to recognize and appreciate authentic My Little Ponies. Even if this is probably what Hasbro intended, it would be absurd to hold it against them because both the ponies and the show gave me some great childhood memories. I don't really see a need to analyze it any deeper.
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I wasn't looking at FIM as a toy commercial, and then I ended with a house full of ponies... so it's a damn effective commercial after all^^
As for G1 also, first was the show (on video tapes^^), ponies came later - and after quite a lot of begging :P And obviously as a kid I didn't look at it as a commercial, such things were totally above me. That said, it was a good show for a kid, it was fueling my imagination and gave me a lot of fun. Making my parents spend money on simple and at these times overly expensive toys was just a side effect :P
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I do see it as a commercial- it exists for no other purpose.
It is a particularly entertaining commercial? Sure is!
I think it's effective too. I actually hadn't even considered collecting G4 ponies since I really didn't like the design change- but once I watched the show I suddenly wanted the ponies...
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In my opinion the most "blatant commercial" piece is the EQ movie they even released in threaters to show little girls and parents were the dolls came out... they made sure to show it in TV (along wit commecials of the toys) when the dolls came to stores.
And at least in my country a store who sells toys was the one who got and sponsor the movie to our theaters at the same time they got the dolls.
The less commercial one would be MLP tales, they only made a few of the cast (7 girls) and the family ponies who appered in a single episode each also the toys were sold ONLY in a few countries in Europe , .....but they didn't made the main boys, the teacher, the parents or siblings of any of the main characters .
I remember back then that I thought it would be cool to have the main cast as toys, at the time we didn't had internet in my country so it was impossible to know that a few of them were made into toys, it was until years later that I was surprised to know about them and that they only sold them in Europe.
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In my opinion the most "blatant commercial" piece is the EQ movie they even released in threaters to show little girls and parents were the dolls came out... they made sure to show it in TV (along wit commecials of the toys) when the dolls came to stores.
And at least in my country a store who sells toys was the one who got and sponsor the movie to our theaters at the same time they got the dolls.
The less commercial one would be MLP tales, they only made a few of the cast (7 girls) and the family ponies who appered in a single episode each also the toys were sold ONLY in a few countries in Europe , .....but they didn't made the main boys, the teacher, the parents or siblings of any of the main characters .
I remember back then that I thought it would be cool to have the main cast as toys, at the time we didn't had internet in my country so it was impossible to know that a few of them were made into toys, it was until years later that I was surprised to know about them and that they only sold them in Europe.
I used to pretend my pony bride was Clovers older sister Meadowlark :)
My friend had a Lemondrop that she called Bonbon since she has similar colors to that character.
Truly wish they had made toys of more tales characters.
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I used to pretend my pony bride was Clovers older sister Meadowlark :)
My friend had a Lemondrop that she called Bonbon since she has similar colors to that character.
Truly wish they had made toys of more tales characters.
Yeah, more ponies would have being cool, Melody's baby twins sisters would have being so adorable.
Lol, I also used some of my ponies to mimic ones from the show, Tunneful was Teddy and Lancer, Serena was Bright Eyes, and Sweet Blossom was Melody and funny is that the real Melody toy is in that pose XD
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I'm sorry you or anyone sees something (that you claim to love even) so negatively. Remember.. Hasbro, and nothing of our fandom, owes us anything. So just enjoy it.
I don't think OP was being negative at all.
I grew up loving ponies but my family did not have a TV till I was 10, then I saw the show and fell in love with the different series as well.
For me, I feel OP is right in saying that even though the series were created for commercial purposes; the stories still had depth and value beyond that.
Sounds pretty positive to me :)
That's exactly what I was going for to be honest. Thanks for that :)
I'm sorry you or anyone sees something (that you claim to love even) so negatively. Remember.. Hasbro, and nothing of our fandom, owes us anything. So just enjoy it.
I don't think OP was being negative at all.
I grew up loving ponies but my family did not have a TV till I was 10, then I saw the show and fell in love with the different series as well.
For me, I feel OP is right in saying that even though the series were created for commercial purposes; the stories still had depth and value beyond that.
Sounds pretty positive to me :)
I pretty much agree with what Diamond and Elisto said.
In the most non-insult way I can say this - I really don't think anyone here actually knows what they're talking about. And MJ it doesn't look like you grew up with what most of us here did. You can study up on anything, but you cannot replicate an experience.
Put yourself in a child's mind. These toys are not for us now, remember. What child would not love to see their favorite toy characters come to life so they can develop deeper relationships with them and see how they interact with others? And what child would not love to see a fun episode from a show they love and then be able to take it home and play with that set and make their own adventure? IE, A Very Charming Birthday. If anything I saw G3 as a commercial, or more like a desperate attempt to salvage what was left of a simmering toy line.
Commercial or not, Hasbro has given us some of the best memories of our childhood because we fell into their "trap". They have created an alternative to cut-and-paste toys and shows and have also created a piece of collector history.
I'm sorry you or anyone sees something (that you claim to love even) so negatively. Remember.. Hasbro, and nothing of our fandom, owes us anything. So just enjoy it.
You're not coming across as insulting, but I feel you've kind of got my meaning backwards.
I'm not saying that MLP shows aren't good ways of advertising the toys (and for reasons you said, and already knew, a very good way of doing so), I'm saying that I don't see the shows as just that, nor should they be hated for being that. I mean, is it fair that someone could write of a show (choose any one of the generations here) as being just a blatant commercial, and nothing else? I'm not saying that it was a bad thing that the reason the shows were created to advertise toys, I'm saying that they have depth beyond that, so it isn't as in your face as some people would say.
It's like educational shows; some are blatantly in the viewers face that it is an educational show by talking to the audience like a teacher, and having very little explanation as to why they're doing what they're doing other than that is what they are teaching today. While others, are actually given a storyline, and actual characters with personality, and whatever the lesson is the child learns as he/she watches, but it's learned subtly - the child enjoys the show's storyline, and the like as well. Both have the same affect on the child, but they are achieved differently.
Same goes with advertising - My Little Pony does more than just advertise, there's a story and characters a long with it; It's not just an hour long episode of a the newest pony showing you her latest playset/house and all her accessories, but an actual day in the life of some ponies, who can be bought as toys, which the child is not told to do by the show she/he wants to do so (well, asks his/her parents to more like...) because he/she got to know them from a well written TV show, and the same goes with the accessories - the desire to re enact storylines from the show, and create your own is very strong as a child, and if the show is already well written, it fuels that desire more (at least that's how it was with me when I was a child - so I was looking at it from a child's mind). I'm not saying that blatant advertising doesn't work on children either, after all, how many times did we suddenly want whatever toys we saw appearing in actual commercials, even if we weren't actually sure what it did? I'm not saying that MLP would have failed if it was like that, I'm saying that the show and characters themselves have charm themselves, and that they shouldn't written off as "nothing but commercials" and seen in a negative light.
Basically, I was also asking if actually related to the characters in My Little Pony, or at least found them believable enough as characters, because I did. The way the actual negative people talk suggests that they were flat characters, because the show was "just a commercial".
And yes, I know I didn't grow up with the toys - I missed out, and it actually saddens me sometimes. I remember what I was like as a kid, and the G1s look exactly like the kind of things I would have loved when I was younger; I can just see my younger self playing with them, re enacting actual episodes, or creating my own (either from the backcards, or from my own imagination) the G2s and G3s would have been a lot of fun too.
I hope I managed to explain a little better, I admit that it was harder to get my point across than I thought - I kept changing my mind on when to say certain things for example, but basically this is a "stay positive", kind of post, so I'm sorry if it failed.
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Basically, I was also asking if actually related to the characters in My Little Pony, or at least found them believable enough as characters, because I did. The way the actual negative people talk suggests that they were flat characters, because the show was "just a commercial".
I don't think I ever related to them particularly strongly, but there were a few that I thought to be cool, like Galaxy and North Star (more because of her design though). Tales was much better in this sense though I don't remember watching it as a kid. I absolutely love Patch's personality.
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LOL well if the purpose of your post was to tell people the cartoons are not negative and have depth, MJNSEIFER, I think you're preaching to the choir! XD Everyone on the Arena already loves MLP. That's why we're here! Maybe your review of the cartoons would be more effective posted somewhere where you might change someone's mind about them? I don't think many here see the cartoons in a negative light. If they do, I never see posts about it. Sometimes people defend one cartoon more than the other, yeah, but I've never seen anyone bash the show as being a waste of time specifically because it's a 20 minute commercial to sell pony toys, or that there's no thought put into them. Maybe you're reacting to some comment you saw on youtube or EqD?
We here at the Arena LOVE 20 minute commercials used to sell pony toys! XD
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Well I know as a kid that I wanted every pony that I saw in the cartoon so it worked as a commercial for me :lol:
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I agree with the general - don't look too deeply into it :) As Dragonflitter says, while you will see comments about the shows - good and bad on the Arena - if we did not all love MLP we would not be here. Anything stated about the commercialisation of the show is probably largely accurate and not meant in an out & out negative way.
In my opinion, I do actually think the shows are "blatant commercials". That does not take away from their entertainment level, the value of their content or them being well written and I don't judge them for being what they are. Taking G4 as an example...so long as the ponies go to the "Royal Wedding" [followed by a toy line featuring the wedding and castle of the cartoon couple], so long as we have releases of mini blind bag sets which do not follow the traditional MLP style but instead cast characters very unique to the show in $10 packs, then it is a commercial. The cartoon puts in front of you a character or a scenario and then makes you spend money to get those in toy form. Thankfully the creators manage to cram entertainment and fun into those 20 minute commercials which allows us to enjoy them.
And here is a question...did you go to the store and buy ponies and then watch FiM? Or did you watch FiM and then buy ponies? Because if you did the latter [as I am sure is the case for many newer collectors] then, as good as a story it is, as entertaining a show, it is also a blinking good advertisement...because it made you go out and buy the toy. I don't care how or why anyone comes to MLP or which part of it they find the most valuable...we all love it...and for me thats all that matters.
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In my case, I don't know whether it was the G1 movie/specials/series or the toys that came into my life first, but I think I tended to gravitate towards the media more than the product it was selling. I don't think I even knew flutter ponies actually existed as toys until I learned about them online many years later.
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You know, ever since I heard this argument (a long time ago before I got gray hair!) I had to think about it, and to an extent, yes, it's true. But you know, at least the writers tried. George Arthur Bloom wrote the first two Pony specials and the movie, and if you think about it, the whole plot of Midnight Castle is PRETTY damn scary for a 5 year old! Your pretty ponies getting kidnapped by horrible monsters and a maniacal half horse-half monster with some kind of magic that can turn ponies INTO monsters. I'm honestly surprised that passed the censors back in the 80s!
Now, let's move on to the movie. Think about it, every pony is freaking out about losing Dream Castle. Forget any ponies that had been smothered to death by the Smooze, Dream Castle was gone. So they go to the Moochick, and the Moochick gives them a MANSION FIRST. Not "Here's how to defeat the Smooze, once you do, you'll get Dream Castle back." Nope. Mansion. Guess why. Because it's a new toy that Hasbro was pushing out. They did the same thing to Transformers (poor Optimus...) and to an extent, G.I. Joe (although they magically revived Duke because of the backlash from Optimus's death.)
The TV series was basically throw-away at most (although Pony Puppy makes me cry every time I watch it) but it was there to promote the ponies out at the time, like "nuzzily, fuzzily soft" ponies, and twinkle-eyed ones. And the evil beddy-byes.
Tales was an interesting case because the Tales toys never made it over to the U.S., but the show did air on Disney (am I wrong in thinking the show never went over to the UK?) At the time, the internet was JUST coming into homes, (this was around 1992-1994 era) so it wasn't like any of us who were collecting MLP really got together online and found out that the U.S. wasn't getting these toys and could buy them from the UK (and believe me, I would have if I could!)
G3's animation (which is forbidden to be spoken of in my house) was a lame attempt to draw kids into buying the toys. I recall Hasbro teasing us with talk of a movie (never happened) and instead we got "Dancing in the clouds" and other such fluff VHS tapes included with some ponies. I never bought more Ponies because of the animation, I bought them (and still do) because I love the toys. :-D
G4 is a example of how to do a kid's show right. (I won't get into EQG here, that's another forbidden topic). Granted, after Lauren Faust left, the quality slid, but it's kept on point. Friendship. It's not talking down to the kids, it's not annoying the parents, and it attracted a large portion of the male population to it. What other girl's show can say that? But at least we're back to an era where the writers are creating for the sake of creating, rather than for a paycheck. And I think that's what so good about it. Sure, it's based on a toy, but it's FUN!
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You are spot on babylofty - re Tales - we got the toys but not the show at the time - however we got the Tales ponies in the MLP comic so there was a reasonable tie up still. But then again, as you know, by that point MLP was still desperately hanging on over here where as in the States the line had given up the ghost. It does make you wonder how last minute a decision it was to pull the line in the US because having a show commissioned and complete but no toy line to back it up [although clearly a toy line designed and in production for another country] suggests it was a pretty sudden pull.
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You know I hate the idea of just because something is made to advertise something means it has no creative value. Advertising has become a dirty word in this society thanks to some kind of anti consumerist sentiment. It ties into that whole idea of "selling out" being the worst thing an artist can do. Yet many famous artists since the industrial age have done advertisements too. "Pure" art doesn't always pay all that well and an artist (or scriptwriter, or composer, etc) does need to eat.
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"Pure" art doesn't always pay all that well and an artist (or scriptwriter, or composer, etc) does need to eat.
You know this was one thing that struck me when I go to literary conventions and talk to sci fi/fantasy writers. A lot of them write scripts for tv shows in between writing their novels, which are their 'true loves.' You have to make money somehow when your normal art isn't selling! :)
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I'm all for Commercialized Art !!!:)
I love the past MLP shows and the new ones even more ! :)
there is a Trend in my town where painters open their galleries for "classes" every weekend and they teach you a 2 hr class while you are drinking wine and enjoying music and food ( you bring what you want to drink/eat) and you spend time with your friends or significant other ,or whoever else also is taking the class (20 people max).
everyone leaves with their own painting , their unique version of the same piece the painter instructing made while teaching you :)
Commercialized Art .
It works, It keeps the painters busy on weekends or maybe even more and they can continue doing what they love :)
Painting :)
They promote the gallery , the artist , the concept and they keep themselves in business
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That sounds like fun Houston! I want to do that! :D
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That sounds like fun Houston! I want to do that! :D
it is a lot of Fun :)
I might plan to Celebrate my next birthday with something like that :)