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Title: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: BrinnyTheBrave on August 29, 2013, 12:33:10 AM
Hello everyone! I'll get straight to the point. Recently I found someone with a trade that I want. I want to give them my address, but I always thought that was risky. I am not sure how safe MLP Arena is in general when it comes to strangers. I am wondering what you recommend I do in this situation. I really want their ponies, and they really want the pony I am willing to trade them. What to do?  :cry:

[moving to Trader Support ~ many thanks ~ hathorcat]
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: disturbed-rainbow on August 29, 2013, 12:39:21 AM
It's bout like eBay, or any other place that ask for your address... But being a small group I'd believe that you'd be safer here than anywhere.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Violet CLM on August 29, 2013, 12:47:44 AM
If they have a non-zero Trade Count under their name on their posts, you can click that link to see testimonials from all the people they've traded with, plus the names of the people who gave the testimonials in case you feel the need to contact them for more information.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: BrinnyTheBrave on August 29, 2013, 01:00:27 AM
Oh... ok. It says their trade count is +10. I'm assuming that's very good? But how do I go by just that?
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: mercynova on August 29, 2013, 01:03:14 AM
I have been trading, buying and selling on the Arena for many many years now so I've given my address out to a lot of different members. Never had a problem once!
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Violet CLM on August 29, 2013, 01:17:53 AM
You can go by just the number 10 if you like. You can look around at other profiles if you want to get a sense of how high it is. As I said, you can click on the number 10 to see a list of the details of those ten transactions, specifically what kind of feedback was left and who the other party was. You can contact those other parties if you feel so inclined, or you can choose not to. You can basically get as much or as little information as you want.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: BrinnyTheBrave on August 29, 2013, 01:24:49 AM
You can go by just the number 10 if you like. You can look around at other profiles if you want to get a sense of how high it is. As I said, you can click on the number 10 to see a list of the details of those ten transactions, specifically what kind of feedback was left and who the other party was. You can contact those other parties if you feel so inclined, or you can choose not to. You can basically get as much or as little information as you want.

Ok, thank you. You have all been so helpful  ^.^ who knew trading ponies was so much work! :P
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: hathorcat on August 29, 2013, 04:18:48 AM
Other than the killer pandas which only come out the third Tuesday of every March on a leap year and snare unthinking newbies, I am pretty sure the Arena is safe enough. We haven't lost anyone yet...well not in a couple of years anyway and even then its not really our fault if people cant read the warning signs posted on the secret Customs forum.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: ponylady on August 29, 2013, 04:45:46 AM
Cat do I have to get out the spanky wand?  :shakefist:

First, you are among friends here. Sure there have been a few bad apples along the road but the good far out weighs the bad.

Just learn to be a conscious buyer/trader. It's always important to check feedback or you can do a quick search of your trade partner using the Search feature to see if there has been any TS threads brought up about them. Also you can check LBS's Bad Trader list. There is a link in the Trader Watch List sticky above.

Honestly you have nothing to worry about  :) I do not hesitate to give my addy. Do you buy off Ebay, Etsy, Amazon? Because if you do it's no different. I will say though since you have never done a trade before be prepared that you will most likely have to send your part of the trade first. And once your partner receives it they will send out yours. The reason being is you are new and have not yet established a reputation here. It's nothing against you it's just the way it usually works.

Good Luck in your future trades!

Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: partypony566 on August 29, 2013, 06:50:41 AM
Honestly it's the same as buying off eBay. You are giving your address out to strangers all the time.

Obviously I was wary too when I first joined, but if you just pick people who have a ton of feedback then you know it's safe to do so.

Alternatively you could set up a PO box addy if you don't want to give out your real addy.


Other than the killer pandas which only come out the third Tuesday of every March on a leap year and snare unthinking newbies, I am pretty sure the Arena is safe enough. We haven't lost anyone yet...well not in a couple of years anyway and even then its not really our fault if people cant read the warning signs posted on the secret Customs forum.

:lmao: :haha: best reply ever. :haha:
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on August 29, 2013, 07:04:46 AM
I know trades can be a little nerve wracking, but it's good to discuss the details beforehand.  You can figure in cost of tracking for each package into the trade values so that you know you are going to be able to keep an eye on it.  It's incredibly unlikely that a member here would be a predator or use your information to harm you in any way. 

How old are you? :) You could ask your work if the package could be sent to your job or you can explore other other options if it truly makes you uncomfortable.   As far as knowing who to trust +10 isn't bad and you should be able to look up what kinds of transactions they were (buy/sell/trade) and also how people felt about them.  Another indicator is post and when the last time they were online is.  If they only have a handful or posts or they were last seen a long time ago, then they might not be as active and this could make reaching them later a problem if you have concerns.

*thinks* The biggest thing is be polite.  You an just say you are interested but you've never done a trade before.

Some people won't trade with incredibly new users who have no feedback.  And some will ask that a newer user with zero feedback send their package first.  I don't really do that, but it happens sometimes.  It's not personal it's because a zero trade count hasn't yet had the opportunity to show how reliable you are.  If it's an issue with your seller you can ask if they would take ebay feedback if you have that. ^^
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Chaosette on August 29, 2013, 09:10:41 AM
Hey folks! It's meee!
I super appreciate Brinny being polite and not posting my name when asking for help :) but I feel totally comfortable saying its me who wants to trade with her.
I think there's at least a couple people who've replied to you, Brinny, who will be able to vouch for me :)
It's totally smart to check though! I remember when I first joined, I was super nervous about my first trade, but I've honestly found I like the arena better than eBay or anything else because everyone knows everyone and will tell you if they've ever had an issue with someone, or if they're good.
So anywho, just wanted to put that out there and see if it helps the Arena folk to help you, knowing that it's me and now they can reply more specifically :)
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Unicorn_pops on August 29, 2013, 10:06:32 AM
Other than the killer pandas which only come out the third Tuesday of every March on a leap year and snare unthinking newbies, I am pretty sure the Arena is safe enough. We haven't lost anyone yet...well not in a couple of years anyway and even then its not really our fault if people cant read the warning signs posted on the secret Customs forum.

OMG...LOL  :lmao:

Cat do I have to get out the spanky wand?  :shakefist:



LOL!
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: ButtercreamDream on August 29, 2013, 10:23:52 AM
When I'm trading with someone who has 0 feedback, I ask them to send first.  That's how I got my feedback started here, and now I'm fairly established.  Honestly, though, I've never worried about giving out my address by PM.  I've been at it for 15years or so, and my only bad experience was through ebay, over a decade ago.  I've never had a bad experience within the community.

Getting tracking or insurance to cover yourself is a good idea, though, in case someone's half goes missing.  Trading is really fun!!
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: cyberunicorn on August 29, 2013, 12:18:35 PM
I know that I was really nervous about my first purchase off the arena. mainly because it was unknown territory. Then the whole giving your address to someone and also sending money over paypal myself.

though I bought DBBE sundance from pinkkittywinks and it was smooth as silk. And I have gone back a few times to buy more slowly buying up all the other DBBEs that pop up lol. I prefer it to ebay (unless I know the ebay user is an arena member) now people are really nice and they actually remember if you have bought from them before

She was really nice and helped with any questions I had.

And wait till you get to swaps. the questions start all over again.  :P
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: BrinnyTheBrave on August 29, 2013, 03:57:35 PM
When I'm trading with someone who has 0 feedback, I ask them to send first.  That's how I got my feedback started here, and now I'm fairly established.  Honestly, though, I've never worried about giving out my address by PM.  I've been at it for 15years or so, and my only bad experience was through ebay, over a decade ago.  I've never had a bad experience within the community.

Getting tracking or insurance to cover yourself is a good idea, though, in case someone's half goes missing.  Trading is really fun!!

Oh, well, I'm more concerned about the safety of my whereabouts rather than the trade gone wrong (but equally concerned about that)
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: ponylady on August 29, 2013, 06:37:59 PM
When I'm trading with someone who has 0 feedback, I ask them to send first.  That's how I got my feedback started here, and now I'm fairly established.  Honestly, though, I've never worried about giving out my address by PM.  I've been at it for 15years or so, and my only bad experience was through ebay, over a decade ago.  I've never had a bad experience within the community.

Getting tracking or insurance to cover yourself is a good idea, though, in case someone's half goes missing.  Trading is really fun!!

Oh, well, I'm more concerned about the safety of my whereabouts rather than the trade gone wrong (but equally concerned about that)
I suppose if you have doubts then you should not be trading here. I would stick to Ebay and the likes. How old are you anyways, just out of curiosity?
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: NovelNerd on August 29, 2013, 06:51:56 PM
I would say if you're really worried then just don't do it. You could always sell your pony then buy one with the money on Ebay or something. I haven't ever heard of someone on the Arena going after someone in the real world. I mean positive feedback or not doesn't always indicate a good seller/trader. It goes that way with any transaction though. I'd stick with Ebay if you're worried.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: BrinnyTheBrave on August 29, 2013, 07:29:00 PM
When I'm trading with someone who has 0 feedback, I ask them to send first.  That's how I got my feedback started here, and now I'm fairly established.  Honestly, though, I've never worried about giving out my address by PM.  I've been at it for 15years or so, and my only bad experience was through ebay, over a decade ago.  I've never had a bad experience within the community.

Getting tracking or insurance to cover yourself is a good idea, though, in case someone's half goes missing.  Trading is really fun!!

Oh, well, I'm more concerned about the safety of my whereabouts rather than the trade gone wrong (but equally concerned about that)
I suppose if you have doubts then you should not be trading here. I would stick to Ebay and the likes. How old are you anyways, just out of curiosity?

21, but, I like to take my precautions.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Sunshine on August 29, 2013, 10:28:14 PM
Some people can tell me my address before I even have to give it to them already on the Arena...

You wanna come to my house and cause trouble? You'll have to deal with the guard geese!!
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Icecrystalline on August 30, 2013, 05:51:31 AM
Some people can tell me my address before I even have to give it to them already on the Arena...

You wanna come to my house and cause trouble? You'll have to deal with the guard geese!!


*LIKE*
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: StoryDreamer on August 30, 2013, 07:22:07 AM
I would say if you're really worried then just don't do it. You could always sell your pony then buy one with the money on Ebay or something. I haven't ever heard of someone on the Arena going after someone in the real world. I mean positive feedback or not doesn't always indicate a good seller/trader. It goes that way with any transaction though. I'd stick with Ebay if you're worried.

Agreed. If you're concerned about someone having your address, then maybe trading or buying is not for you. Maybe you can go to a pony meet and trade in person or buy in person there. Or stick to Ebay.

I understand being scared.  Maybe look into a PO Box.

https://poboxes.usps.com/poboxonline/search/landingPage.do

http://www.theupsstore.com/mailboxes/Pages/index.aspx
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: achab1984 on August 30, 2013, 07:25:23 AM
I have done lot so thing on here to and have turned out great :)
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on August 30, 2013, 07:42:50 AM
Also if there is someone you trust you could see if they would middle man for you.  It would cost more to have the person ship to them and then to you, and there would be more risk of loss, but I think it's within the rules here if you have friends here willing to do that. :)
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Stormness_1 on August 30, 2013, 04:25:14 PM
I suppose you could stick to buying/trading overseas, there's less chance someone will 'visit' you, but obviously it will cost you far more. But in my many transactions here and on the TP, as well as ebay, I've never had ANY trouble regarding my address being out there, I even put my return addy on packages I send out just in case they get lost... although I do mostly use my PO box now, just because our Postie here is super crap, lol!
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Rosencrantz on August 30, 2013, 05:27:48 PM
The worst I ever got from a pony purchase/trade was a bunch of pamphlets on veganism included with my pony.

But, I remember weaving a rather elaborate web of lies to conceal my identity (long story, nothing illegal or against forum rules) when I was young and that just got weird after a while.

If you don't feel comfortable, don't do it. Your personal and emotional well-being is more important than a toy.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: StoryDreamer on August 30, 2013, 05:30:57 PM
You can always use an initial :) Like I use B. (last name) on all my packages.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Rosencrantz on August 30, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
oh, as a note of caution. It helps to have at least one name you use in common with your ID on packages. Back when I was using John Cabot, which is not on my id, the post office started giving me trouble about picking up my packages.
Title: Re: The Safety of MLP Arena?
Post by: Ringlets on September 02, 2013, 04:04:36 AM
Theres a lot of good advice in this thread already :)  I honestly wouldnt worry about someone turning up for a visit. Check the feedback, check the bad trader list,  or even get the parcels sent to another address rather than the one you live at - all of this lowers any risk, but TBH its no more risky buying here than on ebay or other places online  - its probably safer than a lot of them   :awake:

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