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Title: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: therestornadosinmysoup on August 06, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
Ok, I've been trying to knock out some more space in my brain for G4 info. I have been puzzled by the following-

Why are there little black serial? numbers under the feet of most regular store release G4's? Is there any significance to them? I have one Twilight Sparkle that does not have them, does that mean anything  :what:

What is Taobao exactly? Do they make all the prototypes I see for sale/auction? Are they affiliated with Hasbro  :what:

I do not have cable or satellite tv, so I have not seen any episodes of Friendship is Magic. Is it aimed at adults or children? Are there full episodes online somewhere  :what:

 :think:
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Radiance on August 06, 2013, 11:26:36 AM
I have wondered myself about the little # on their feet, so can't help you there. But Taobao is like an auction site, but only in Chinese. I'm not too sure where the 'prototype' ponies come from but I suspect they are not sold on Taobao with Hasbro's blessing. They are probably factory seconds or something like that. Taobao has no affiliation at all with Hasbro as far as I know.

Friendship is Magic is a kid's show, but the humor can be appreciated by adults as well. The stories are cute and I do like some of the characters. The animation is nice, but a little bland IMO... looks like all the other animated shows being put out today, to me. I guess I just prefer the old, hand drawn & colored cell animation.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Galactica on August 06, 2013, 11:32:43 AM
1. The black serial number indicates the batch -  I forget how, but you can figure out when it was made as it includes a date somehow.

If a pony doesn't have one- it may have come with a set.  There is someone on here that knows exactly what the numbers mean- I forget who that was.

2.  Taobao is a weird cross between craigslist and ebay- factories sell their products directly to the Chinese market.  This guy (who is a QI type person) has some really interesting articles on the subject http://www.qualityinspection.org/china-factory-taobao/
http://www.qualityinspection.org/stock-lots-brand-copies/

The "prototypes" you see on ebay are indeed from Taobao- but they mostly are not prototypes.  SOme of them (ie White Celestia and a few others that were never made- were probably test runs and could be categorized as prototypes-  a lot of the others are mistakes, color tests, QC failures, and extra ponies that the factory made and decided to sell on Taobao instead of to Hasbro (read the article above)

3.  Friendship is Magic was aimed at children- but it's a lot more complex than most kids shows.  The creator is the same one that created Powerpuff Girls- and the characters are more like those characters-  spunky and flawed instead of simperingly sweet.   That's the appeal I guess.

You can watch the shows on Netflix or youtube.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Domingo on August 06, 2013, 12:36:32 PM
I can only answer #3: Yes. Friendship is Magic, the show, is completely family-friendly.

I do have to correct Galactica: the show's creator isn't the same as Powerpuff Girls. That was Craig McCracken, a guy. The creator of FiM is the guy's wife, Lauren Faust.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: PitterPatter on August 06, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
Serial number, isn't it:

the first number represents the year (ie 3 = 2013)
the next three are the day of the year (ie 001 = first of january, there are websites that list these numbers for you)
and the last number may well be factory, but currently is always the same.

So my starswirl is:

20831 = 23rd March 2012 manufacture date
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: GothMummy on August 06, 2013, 01:43:49 PM
I am really glad you asked about taobao because I have been very confused about what it was!

I think FiM is like a lot of shows and films aimed at kids now, in that it has nods to the adult audience, it has jokes that the kids wont get etc. My children like it. I dont sit down and  watch it as such, but have seen a lot of episodes in passing as I put it on for the kids.

I want to know why G4 ponies have holes in their front hooves?
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Galactica on August 06, 2013, 01:47:14 PM
Here's a link from youtube to what looks like all of season 1-  before they were on netflix, I used to search by typing FIM s1 (insert season) e(insert episode number)- so "FIM S2 E1" will probably get you close to the first episode of season 2.   I think the show is pretty good!  There are some really good episodes (although a decent number of filler/boring episodes too I'm afraid).


GothMummy - I think those holes in the feet are probably where the mold gets filled or maybe the area where something is inserted to keep the pony on an assembly as it gets painted.   But I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Violet CLM on August 06, 2013, 01:54:57 PM
YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/show/mylittleponyfriendshipismagic)
Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/tv/show/My_Little_Pony_Friendship_is_Magic?id=0BJwM9q_nyI&hl=en)
Netflix (http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/My_Little_Pony_Friendship_Is_Magic/70234440?locale=en-US)
iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/my-little-pony-friendship/id575915802)
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Katika on August 06, 2013, 01:56:41 PM
I thought the hole in the feet was to secure them on to certain accessories.  Like how G3s had magnets that let them "interact" with select accessories, the scooters and stuff with the G4s have little pegs (if I recall correctly) that let you "lock" them on. 

I could be off on this.  All that I know about G4s is that I decided waaaaay to late that I should start collecting them and am now desperately trying to catch up, lol!
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Stormness_1 on August 06, 2013, 02:32:54 PM
The carousel has pins that fit into the holes on pony and pet feet.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: GothMummy on August 06, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
Ah Ok thanks. I only have the Wedding Castle and the hot air balloon and I couldnt see anything that the ponie's feet could hook on to on those playsets!
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: shabbychicdee on August 06, 2013, 02:51:18 PM
Ah Ok thanks. I only have the Wedding Castle and the hot air balloon and I couldnt see anything that the ponie's feet could hook on to on those playsets!
i think the feet holes hook into things like the train sets and cars, seem to be on most toys these days, all LPS have them too.
im not 100% if thay did this for g3 but they certainly did for g3.5
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Lady Starflower on August 06, 2013, 02:57:33 PM
Here an old thread about the little black numbers: http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,333074.msg814161.html#msg814161
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: hathorcat on August 06, 2013, 04:07:29 PM
Serial number, isn't it:

the first number represents the year (ie 3 = 2013)
the next three are the day of the year (ie 001 = first of january, there are websites that list these numbers for you)
and the last number may well be factory, but currently is always the same.

So my starswirl is:

20831 = 23rd March 2012 manufacture date

Yes this is exactly right :)
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: therestornadosinmysoup on August 06, 2013, 04:25:04 PM
Ha! My 3 Lulu Lucks and Rarity with sparkle symbol were all made on the same day! Monday, May 16, 2011 Heheheh, that's cool  :cool:
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: cleverLC on August 07, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
I can only answer #3: Yes. Friendship is Magic, the show, is completely family-friendly.

I do have to correct Galactica: the show's creator isn't the same as Powerpuff Girls. That was Craig McCracken, a guy. The creator of FiM is the guy's wife, Lauren Faust.

Actually, Craig McCracken and Lauren Faust co-created PPG.  So Galactica's partially right. :)
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: spottedslug on August 07, 2013, 09:25:12 AM
Just set aside a couple hours an go watch it. :P From one old timer to another. Just DOOOOO it! Really entertaining cartoons in themselves.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 07, 2013, 05:13:09 PM
I think FiM is like a lot of shows and films aimed at kids now, in that it has nods to the adult audience, it has jokes that the kids wont get etc.
Yeah... I don't really agree to that.  No offense.

Sorry, it's just a massive pet peeve of mine; assuming kids won't get the jokes because they're kids, yet we did when we were kids, right?  I certainly did (I didn't get everything, but I got a lot more than todays kids are being given credit for).

Also, while I know that some children's writers really do try to be clever and put in things they think kids won't understand - I haven't seen any evidence of this in FIM, I can't really see any jokes that kids won't get.  And if you mean references to classic things, yeah, kids can know about them too.

Sorry for my rant, like I say - it kind of gets to me.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: reanna-mator on August 07, 2013, 06:13:19 PM
I think FiM is like a lot of shows and films aimed at kids now, in that it has nods to the adult audience, it has jokes that the kids wont get etc.
Yeah... I don't really agree to that.  No offense.

Sorry, it's just a massive pet peeve of mine; assuming kids won't get the jokes because they're kids, yet we did when we were kids, right?  I certainly did (I didn't get everything, but I got a lot more than todays kids are being given credit for).

Also, while I know that some children's writers really do try to be clever and put in things they think kids won't understand - I haven't seen any evidence of this in FIM, I can't really see any jokes that kids won't get.  And if you mean references to classic things, yeah, kids can know about them too.

Sorry for my rant, like I say - it kind of gets to me.

I dunno. I think very young kids probably won't get the Benny Hill, Blazing Saddles and 2001 A Space Odyssey references. :) Maybe that's the kind of stuff GothMummy means?
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Sunset on August 07, 2013, 07:43:21 PM
I think FiM is like a lot of shows and films aimed at kids now, in that it has nods to the adult audience, it has jokes that the kids wont get etc.
Yeah... I don't really agree to that.  No offense.

Sorry, it's just a massive pet peeve of mine; assuming kids won't get the jokes because they're kids, yet we did when we were kids, right?  I certainly did (I didn't get everything, but I got a lot more than todays kids are being given credit for).

Also, while I know that some children's writers really do try to be clever and put in things they think kids won't understand - I haven't seen any evidence of this in FIM, I can't really see any jokes that kids won't get.  And if you mean references to classic things, yeah, kids can know about them too.

Sorry for my rant, like I say - it kind of gets to me.

I dunno. I think very young kids probably won't get the Benny Hill, Blazing Saddles and 2001 A Space Odyssey references. :) Maybe that's the kind of stuff GothMummy means?

To be honest,  I am 33 and I wouldn't get any of those references.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Domingo on August 07, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
When did the "a few jokes for the adults = entire show not for kids" thing start anyway? Cartoons have been doing jokes for adults since their very beginning (look at the Looney Tunes or early Betty Boop) and that's never stopped kids from enjoying them.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: reanna-mator on August 07, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
I think FiM is like a lot of shows and films aimed at kids now, in that it has nods to the adult audience, it has jokes that the kids wont get etc.
Yeah... I don't really agree to that.  No offense.

Sorry, it's just a massive pet peeve of mine; assuming kids won't get the jokes because they're kids, yet we did when we were kids, right?  I certainly did (I didn't get everything, but I got a lot more than todays kids are being given credit for).

Also, while I know that some children's writers really do try to be clever and put in things they think kids won't understand - I haven't seen any evidence of this in FIM, I can't really see any jokes that kids won't get.  And if you mean references to classic things, yeah, kids can know about them too.

Sorry for my rant, like I say - it kind of gets to me.

I dunno. I think very young kids probably won't get the Benny Hill, Blazing Saddles and 2001 A Space Odyssey references. :) Maybe that's the kind of stuff GothMummy means?

To be honest,  I am 33 and I wouldn't get any of those references.

I'd say that that makes me feel old, but I'm 30. XD

Edit: Ooh, husband also reminded me of the Big Lebowski reference.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: Foxtale on August 07, 2013, 08:50:34 PM
Serial number, isn't it:

the first number represents the year (ie 3 = 2013)
the next three are the day of the year (ie 001 = first of january, there are websites that list these numbers for you)
and the last number may well be factory, but currently is always the same.

So my starswirl is:

20831 = 23rd March 2012 manufacture date

I am going to try hard to remember the answer to this, I always forget :P

Most people have covered the answers.

Just another quick Tao Bao note... it's basically Chinese Ebay. "Prototypes" are still not confirmed to be from factories but seeing as a lot come out right before a real release we can only assume they were taken out of the factory or subpar in quality and then re-sold.
Title: Re: G1 'ole timer has questions about G4...
Post by: MJNSEIFER on August 08, 2013, 07:27:55 AM
I think FiM is like a lot of shows and films aimed at kids now, in that it has nods to the adult audience, it has jokes that the kids wont get etc.
Yeah... I don't really agree to that.  No offense.

Sorry, it's just a massive pet peeve of mine; assuming kids won't get the jokes because they're kids, yet we did when we were kids, right?  I certainly did (I didn't get everything, but I got a lot more than todays kids are being given credit for).

Also, while I know that some children's writers really do try to be clever and put in things they think kids won't understand - I haven't seen any evidence of this in FIM, I can't really see any jokes that kids won't get.  And if you mean references to classic things, yeah, kids can know about them too.

Sorry for my rant, like I say - it kind of gets to me.

I dunno. I think very young kids probably won't get the Benny Hill, Blazing Saddles and 2001 A Space Odyssey references. :) Maybe that's the kind of stuff GothMummy means?

To be honest,  I am 33 and I wouldn't get any of those references.
Some might.  It depends if they know them or not.  One of you kind of prooved this by admiting they were 33, and not knowing them.

It is possible to know things from before your time, just as it is possible to not know things from your time.  So when someone refferences a song or a movie or whatever, it is not aimed at an age - it is aimed at whoever gets it.  I know this because I got a lot of "old" movie references when I was a child, and they were the same kind of of jokes that people say kids wouldn't get these days.
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