The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => MLP Nirvana => Topic started by: shelti on June 20, 2013, 08:44:47 AM
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Many of you know, my Biggest Gripe is Un Marked
Rehairs or Customs in the Nirvana World.
There is nothing worse then buying a Pony and finding out she's had a hair job.
There is a Pony on ebay right now offered by a seller who has sold Rehairs without mentioning they are Rehairs (maybe they don't Know but should)
Argentina Butterscotch with Long Orange Hair
They added information to the auction later
which states she has 3 small stars on the display side cheek like her symbols.
This pony is going to enter the Community soon and some poor buyer is going to think it's a Rare pony.
Thoughts
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My first thought when I saw that auction was "rehair". That bright orange was a common color to be used in rehaired Argies.
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My first thought when I saw that auction was "rehair". That bright orange was a common color to be used in rehaired Argies.
My first thought too kitkat.
And of course any time you have nice hair but a pony with issues...Buyer beware.
I wish they had posted pictures of the stars on the cheeks, maybe the original owners way of marking this pony as a rehair or custom.
So frustrating when they are going out into the Community as Rare and HTF, misrepresented to new collectors who think it is rare and HTF
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I don't trust the seller period. She's the same one who was selling a reheaded Macau snuzzledrop.
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I don't trust the seller period. She's the same one who was selling a reheaded Macau snuzzledrop.
That's one of the ponies and I know for certain she was aware of the fact, because I sent her a message through ebay and I am sure I was not the only one. The pony was never removed from the Auction or a note added to the auction so buyers would be aware of what they were actually getting.
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rehair
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rehair, there should be some way to notify ebay that it's being sold as something more valuable than it really is. It's practically a scam
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rehair, there should be some way to notify ebay that it's being sold as something more valuable than it really is. It's practically a scam
I so agree Marian. But all the seller has to do is play the part of "Not Knowing" what they are selling even though this seller seems to have handled these sorts of ponies before. There was one bid on the pony which has now been retracted. Maybe we will get lucky and the Pony will stay out of the Cycle of unmarked rehairs / Customs in the Community but I doubt it. Sooner or later someone will buy thinking they have a Rare and HTF pony
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I don't trust the seller period. She's the same one who was selling a reheaded Macau snuzzledrop.
I thought I recognised the sellers name from somewhere.
The pony is a rehair :)
love pkw xxx
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Well, there is now another party bidding on the Pony.
Looks like someone who has bought from the seller before :(
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I don't see any stars on her checks (?) is that what the seller said?
She looks pretty in that colour but definitely a rehair.
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I don't see any stars on her checks (?) is that what the seller said?
She looks pretty in that colour but definitely a rehair.
There is a note to that effect which was added after the auction was listed.
"On May-31-13 at 18:54:53 PDT, seller added the following information:
She also has 3 tiny stars like her symbols on her display side cheek."
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I can't see the stars either on the picture :huh:
Lets hope the bidders realise the pony is rehaired.
love pkw xxx
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well Shelti you can say you tried... dunno = honestly for me I would've been fine with $35 for a "custom" as I like her overall condition (so that's a shout out to anyone who has an otherwise good condition argie butterscotch with a butchered haircut I will be happy to take her off your hands and rehair her = AND mark it as such!) But the dang auction is now over $70 - geesh peeps - I am amazed that that seller has that kind of fanatic following
ah well ...
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Yikes, this is discouraging to learn as I buy ponies from this seller all of the time. :( Nothing rare, so perhaps I don't need to worry (Windy Wings Whirly, Cloud Pull, baby toe dancer, baby noddins, majesty etc.).
Despite the fact that I have yet to be disappointed, I am going to have to resist buying from her again just based on principle alone.... I've been eyeing that Italian Heart Throb too. :( I think she is a very popular seller because what you see is what you get. I am a VERY PICKY collector and would say that I end up reselling probably over 80% of the ponies I buy as they don't end up meeting my standards. >_<
I would feel very deceived if I paid big money for what I believed to be a nirvana variant only to learn otherwise! I think it's good that you are putting the word out there about this argie. This situation just reinforces our need to be informed consumers. :ohyeah:
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I asked her point blank if it was a rehair. she said
"No, she hasn't. This is how I received her a few years ago and I have seen another one with the same hair. They came with very long hair."
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I asked her point blank if it was a rehair. she said
"No, she hasn't. This is how I received her a few years ago and I have seen another one with the same hair. They came with very long hair."
:dropjaw: oh, wow... So, she didn't even entertain the idea that the argie *may have* been a rehair. :nope:
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Wow auction ended at $93! Craziness!!
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Such a Shame as now the pony will be in circulation in the Community. The seller once again has sold something that is not authentic and been made aware of it by a respected Community member and yet took no steps to do anything except dupe some poor collector with an expensive custom.
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This is the second time we've discussed this seller selling a "bad" nirvana in the last month. I wonder how many others have slipped under the radar. :huh:
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This is the second time we've discussed this seller selling a "bad" nirvana in the last month. I wonder how many others have slipped under the radar. :huh:
I was wondering the same thing, such a shame and another unmarked customs out into the "Real World"
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This makes me sad and cross for collectors, I would have hoped that both seller and buyer would have done their research.
love pkw xxxx
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Must be my location or something, cus I never find these :p
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Could someone link now it's closed?
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That's very disappointing :( It might well be how she received it, but that doesn't mean it's not a rehair.
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Could someone link now it's closed?
Good Idea
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310689364996?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/310689364996?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
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She looks good in that hair colour but no way it's genuine!
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I'm sorta of a noob to the nirvana, but how can you tell it was rehair, was it just the color? Thankies!
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I'm sorta of a noob to the nirvana, but how can you tell it was rehair, was it just the color? Thankies!
If you are un familiar with variations from different Countries.
There is the Nirvana Gallery (when it's up and running) to peek at, asking here on the forum or
for Argies this page is very useful
http://s27.photobucket.com/user/relceleste/library/Collection/Nirvana/Argentina?sort=6&start=all&page=1 (http://s27.photobucket.com/user/relceleste/library/Collection/Nirvana/Argentina?sort=6&start=all&page=1)
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thanks- from what I understand butterscotch never came with such long hair to begin with, minus the color.
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when I see a pony with her body in poor condition and perfect hair, I suspect. But besides the hair color is a variant, no way, is a rehair.
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Looks like a rehair to me.. Uhhh Why can't people leave ponies be or mark as a rehair.
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Looks like a rehair to me.. Uhhh Why can't people leave ponies be or mark as a rehair.
I know, that's my Biggest Gripe. Now she's in someones collection probably and they think they have something "Rare & HTF" when in fact she's just a custom
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I'm not an avid nirvana collector and mostly sticking to Italians because they're in my price range but even I thought that was a rehair as soon as I saw it because I've never seen that pony in any form with the that hair colour and i stalk ebay every day so I'd have seen one. And I just looked through the nirvana photos wow beauties!
Why must people lie like that I'm sure someone would have paid a good price for her even knowing she's a rehair. My Mimic was rehaired (not nirvana but an example) because the seller found her in such poor condition but she stated clearly that she was a rehair and so I knew it.
Though you can usually tell a rehair as most people never cut the hair short enough to look natural once they've rehaired.
Shame on that seller for ignoring comments on both this pony and the italy x macau snuzzdrop
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I know who you are talking about and I have watched this person sell obvious customs as rares often. Sigh
Post Merge: June 26, 2013, 09:22:58 AM
I asked her point blank if it was a rehair. she said
"No, she hasn't. This is how I received her a few years ago and I have seen another one with the same hair. They came with very long hair."
I always ask too and always get a similar response.
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Judging from every ones comments this seller knows exactly what she's selling but is telling big fibs to get more money, as claiming to have 11 years experience and having sold Macaus and argies before and yet can't tell the difference between her italy and macau heads and her argie hair colours is a crock of ****
this seller knows what she's selling and doesn't care
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I have passed the information on along with these thread links to LovesBabySquirmy for her Bad trader. The seller is already on there under previous user names and it will be up to LBS if she decides to add this user name to the list.
It is frustrating but there do seem to be those ebay sellers who just don't care.
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Ok, I admit that I was the one who bought the pony. :( I had never bought from her before. The seller shipped quickly and I received her fast. The first thing I did was take her head off. She is indeed a re-hair. So, I messaged the seller through ebay and said that I received an item that wasn't as described. Additionally, I sent pictures of the inside of the heads of a non-rehair Argie Butterscotch that I already had, along with the re-haired one I bought. She claimed that she bought them years ago and doesn't know what a re-hair is. I told her that I wanted a partial refund since re-hairs aren't worth that much. I asked for a $60 refund. She offered $50 refund so I took it. Needless to say, I don't think she would've refunded any if I hadn't put a claim in through ebay. She was not very happy and was not the nicest in our dealings. Lesson learned by me. I think I got lucky to get some money back though.
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hmmm... not the way I would recommend to go about getting a "deal" on ebay - you were lucky you got a partial refund as depending on what your purchase history looks like (like mine is mostly ponies) she could have potentially made a case you "knew better" and just been difficult / demanding the pony back etc. so be glad there were all those other comments she had as well from other members that told her that pony was not legit to back you up in this case
guess the best I can offer at this point is to mark that pony please! and enjoy your cool rehair
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Actually, she specifically states it in her auctions...
"Please if you have any problems or not happy with your purchase, please email me so I can work things out with you, Before leaving feedback of any kind. I accept partial or full refunds, I really want customers to be Very Happy with your purchases! I appreciate it so much, Thank You."
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Ok, I admit that I was the one who bought the pony. :( I had never bought from her before. The seller shipped quickly and I received her fast. The first thing I did was take her head off. She is indeed a re-hair. So, I messaged the seller through ebay and said that I received an item that wasn't as described. Additionally, I sent pictures of the inside of the heads of a non-rehair Argie Butterscotch that I already had, along with the re-haired one I bought. She claimed that she bought them years ago and doesn't know what a re-hair is. I told her that I wanted a partial refund since re-hairs aren't worth that much. I asked for a $60 refund. She offered $50 refund so I took it. Needless to say, I don't think she would've refunded any if I hadn't put a claim in through ebay. She was not very happy and was not the nicest in our dealings. Lesson learned by me. I think I got lucky to get some money back though.
Awww, I'm sorry that she fooled you. :( You must be so disappointed. :( At least you got some money back. And please leave her bad feedback! She actually has really good feedback on ebay, which is why I suspect people are still getting tricked by her! I can't believe she said she didn't know what a rehair was, after claiming to be an experienced seller AND being asked by multiple people if she was a rehair! Urgh!
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Okay, so, when I was here years ago, there was a seller named L11111111Y or something, but that said, I *swear* this seller is the same person. The photos are identical, or least to my eyes.
But anyways, it was hit and miss. She was always quick and the ponies were always clean, so I always bought. However, I was kind of burnt of even buying ponies after I got into a ridiculous bid war over a Blueberry Baskets that she claimed was absolutely mint.
She wasn't.
I paid $80 for a Blueberry Baskets with crunchy hair and tail rust.
My most regretted pony purchase, for sure.
But if someone could confirm for me if it's the same seller or not, I would like to know.
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Okay, so, when I was here years ago, there was a seller named L11111111Y or something, but that said, I *swear* this seller is the same person. The photos are identical, or least to my eyes.
But anyways, it was hit and miss. She was always quick and the ponies were always clean, so I always bought. However, I was kind of burnt of even buying ponies after I got into a ridiculous bid war over a Blueberry Baskets that she claimed was absolutely mint.
She wasn't.
I paid $80 for a Blueberry Baskets with crunchy hair and tail rust.
My most regretted pony purchase, for sure.
But if someone could confirm for me if it's the same seller or not, I would like to know.
That Arena user was dot100dogs who is also the currant seller on ebay we have been discussing. The original seller she claimed was her daughter using the new ebay id but the daughter no longer had time to sell her ponies. This was Stated in some of the original ads when the seller Id started up on ebay. I believe the bad trader list has been updated. She showed up on the Old Arena with that user name to defend herself in a thread which involved something similar to the threads here now.
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I feel really confused about this seller because I've only had good dealings with her but now I'm finding out all this bad stuff. I gave her the benefit of the doubt the first time the Macau Snuzzledrop popped up but I'm not so confident now. I have a pony in the mail from her now (I won her before I saw the second thread about Snuzzledrop and this thread). I think she'll be my last pony from this seller. I'm just too freaked out now.
I'm just so disappointed in her. I mean she found me a Hugster when I couldn't find one. I just expected better from this seller. :(
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I feel really confused about this seller because I've only had good dealings with her but now I'm finding out all this bad stuff. I gave her the benefit of the doubt the first time the Macau Snuzzledrop popped up but I'm not so confident now. I have a pony in the mail from her now (I won her before I saw the second thread about Snuzzledrop and this thread). I think she'll be my last pony from this seller. I'm just too freaked out now.
I'm just so disappointed in her. I mean she found me a Hugster when I couldn't find one. I just expected better from this seller. :(
Sabrina, if you have been happy with the seller then I would just use caution.
You need to know your ponies including variants because she is not going to refund you without a hassle if you mess up and buy something that is not as Described when you get it. That has been clear all along and even though she claims to have the Variations from her collection she obviously is not as knowledgeable as she thinks she is for 11 years of collection.
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I feel really confused about this seller because I've only had good dealings with her but now I'm finding out all this bad stuff. I gave her the benefit of the doubt the first time the Macau Snuzzledrop popped up but I'm not so confident now. I have a pony in the mail from her now (I won her before I saw the second thread about Snuzzledrop and this thread). I think she'll be my last pony from this seller. I'm just too freaked out now.
I'm just so disappointed in her. I mean she found me a Hugster when I couldn't find one. I just expected better from this seller. :(
Sabrina, if you have been happy with the seller then I would just use caution.
You need to know your ponies including variants because she is not going to refund you without a hassle if you mess up and buy something that is not as Described when you get it. That has been clear all along and even though she claims to have the Variations from her collection she obviously is not as knowledgeable as she thinks she is for 11 years of collection.
Thanks Shelti. I think that's why I've been so lucky with her so far because I've only bought really common ponies from her, except for Jenny. I would definitely never buy another nirvana from her. I don't feel confident enough in my knowledge of nirvanas to risk it.
I don't think I'll be buying from her again. I really don't like that people let her know about her ponies and she didn't do anything about it. I don't really want to be supporting someone who does that.
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I feel really confused about this seller because I've only had good dealings with her but now I'm finding out all this bad stuff. I gave her the benefit of the doubt the first time the Macau Snuzzledrop popped up but I'm not so confident now. I have a pony in the mail from her now (I won her before I saw the second thread about Snuzzledrop and this thread). I think she'll be my last pony from this seller. I'm just too freaked out now.
I'm just so disappointed in her. I mean she found me a Hugster when I couldn't find one. I just expected better from this seller. :(
Sabrina, if you have been happy with the seller then I would just use caution.
You need to know your ponies including variants because she is not going to refund you without a hassle if you mess up and buy something that is not as Described when you get it. That has been clear all along and even though she claims to have the Variations from her collection she obviously is not as knowledgeable as she thinks she is for 11 years of collection.
Thanks Shelti. I think that's why I've been so lucky with her so far because I've only bought really common ponies from her, except for Jenny. I would definitely never buy another nirvana from her. I don't feel confident enough in my knowledge of nirvanas to risk it.
I don't think I'll be buying from her again. I really don't like that people let her know about her ponies and she didn't do anything about it. I don't really want to be supporting someone who does that.
Very true, I personally brought to her attention the Argie Butterscotch and the Franken Macau Pony. I know several others from the Community also contacted her. She responded to some, she did not respond to me on either pony so I guess, enough said. If she had given me the lame duck excuse she gave others I would have responded back to her about the fact she touts her 11 years of pony knowledge in her ads. She should know what she is working with if she states it.
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Very true, I personally brought to her attention the Argie Butterscotch and the Franken Macau Pony. I know several others from the Community also contacted her. She responded to some, she did not respond to me on either pony so I guess, enough said. If she had given me the lame duck excuse she gave others I would have responded back to her about the fact she touts her 11 years of pony knowledge in her ads. She should know what she is working with if she states it.
That statement is why I started buying from her in the first place. That statement saids "you can trust me because I'm a professional".
She's so silly not listen to you and the others. By not doing anything about those ponies she's just losing customers. Seeing as she has defended herself on arena before she has to realise that this information would be passed on to other collectors.