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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: jaybell on June 01, 2013, 06:24:26 PM

Title: cutie marks
Post by: jaybell on June 01, 2013, 06:24:26 PM
What do you do about missing/messed up cutie marks on G1s? I'm trying to clean up what I have to sell and I'm not sure if I should try to restore the cutie marks or not? is that dishonest? I have a glory that is missing an entire star almost on one side but is in great condition other wise, with maybe some touching up to an eye  :what:
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: Sapphire-Light on June 01, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
 If the pony is in fair condition then you can restore the symbol.  ^.^

Many people agree that on G1s to be a custom bait the pony should be beyond repairing  like mayor rubs on eyes symbols, mohawks on the hair, cancer, regrind and things like that.

Ah and in G1, G2 and G3 cutie marks are called symbols  ;)
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: Shiverdam on June 01, 2013, 08:45:07 PM
Restoring the symbols on an otherwise good-condition pony is fine, as long as you clarify that the symbols or eyes are not "original" and have been restored if you ever plan on selling.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: jaybell on June 01, 2013, 08:51:17 PM
If the pony is in fair condition then you can restore the symbol.  ^.^

Many people agree that on G1s to be a custom bait the pony should be beyond repairing  like mayor rubs on eyes symbols, mohawks on the hair, cancer, regrind and things like that.

Ah and in G1, G2 and G3 cutie marks are called symbols  ;)


lol thanks I didn't know that.

Post Merge: June 01, 2013, 08:51:38 PM

Restoring the symbols on an otherwise good-condition pony is fine, as long as you clarify that the symbols or eyes are not "original" and have been restored if you ever plan on selling.

Ok I wanted to make sure! thanks ^^
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: PinkRosedust on June 01, 2013, 09:02:12 PM
I'd leave it up to the buyer personally, and just leave them as-is. Or if you do touch them up, make sure you state it in the description.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: brightberry on June 01, 2013, 09:08:37 PM
I'd leave it up to the buyer personally, and just leave them as-is. Or if you do touch them up, make sure you state it in the description.

I agree.  I would rather do that myself or even just leave it.  Symbol rubs don't bother me very much.  I kind of expect to see that on a G1.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on June 01, 2013, 11:34:30 PM
It's really difficult to repair G1 symbols well enough that it doesn't end up detracting from their value.  Unless you're keeping the pony forever for yourself and are confident in your freehand painting skills, I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: Teddy on June 02, 2013, 12:46:39 AM
If you're going to sell them anyway, I'd kind of leave it up to the buyer to restore the symbols if they so choose. But that's just me. ;) I would prefer to do my own restoration on my personal collection.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: hathorcat on June 02, 2013, 06:52:36 AM
For selling, I agree with leaving it to the buyer. You can always offer them the option of selling the pony a little higher in price if they wish you to restore the symbol.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: banditpony on June 02, 2013, 07:31:55 AM
I keep as is. :) I don't really mind rubs to symbols, I think they add character.

But if I'm selling, I also keep it as is. That way the buyer can make the decision. I probably wouldn't want to buy anything touched up, because I can get picky about it being flawless.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: jaybell on June 02, 2013, 07:55:38 AM
you guys made good points I probably won't touch them up then. I just wasn't sure what a buyer would want. :)
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: katrine2309 on June 02, 2013, 02:25:43 PM
Keep as is :) That's what I would do - if the pony is in good condition otherwise she will still hold her value good enough I think. And leave it up to the buyer to restore her symbol or not. Some buyers do not like restorations and actually feel that a restoration in itself devalue the pony...
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: achab1984 on June 02, 2013, 02:39:58 PM
My daughter calls them all cutie marks also. I have had to remind her a few times. LOL She is so cute :)

If the pony is not that bad then yes and if its hard to find then yes also!
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: Shy Violet on June 02, 2013, 03:08:16 PM
I recently received a baby Bowtie with a touched up symbol and it really bothers me. I would have preferred her with a symbol rub. I do customs and still would not touch up a G1, I think it detracts from them personally. :)
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: scarletjul on June 02, 2013, 09:31:07 PM
Yeah, I'd leave it alone and leave it up to the buyer.  :)
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: cadance89 on June 02, 2013, 11:12:29 PM
They were called Cutie Marks in G3 too, I remember them mentioning it in the Runaway Rainbow
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 03, 2013, 07:03:44 AM
Me again (sorry everyone.) I personally don't think that people should be corrected about using the term cutie mark for G1 and G2 ponies, and (even though I personally prefer the term "cutie mark") I don't think people should be corrected for using the term "symbol" for G3 and G4 ponies either.

I hope no one minds me writing this, but I feel that we should just call them what we personally like, there is no right or wrong at the end of the day.  It's like how some ponies were given different names when they were sold ("Tux and Tails" and "Coats and Tails" are actually the same pony) so ultimately just call them as you know them.

I really hope this didn't sound bossy.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: jaybell on June 03, 2013, 07:08:26 AM
Yeah I didn't think cutie mark vs symbol was a thing lol. I think I called them butt tattoos until I heard the term cutie mark. sounded nicer
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: ravengusty on June 03, 2013, 07:12:23 AM
Yeah I didn't think cutie mark vs symbol was a thing lol. I think I called them butt tattoos until I heard the term cutie mark. sounded nicer

Butt tattoo...I love it!
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on June 03, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
Coat n' Tails and Tux n' Tails refer to the same pony, and both names originate from Hasbro.
G1's never had cutie marks. Nor did G2.  They were never called that, by Hasbro, or anyone else, so it's not exactly the same situation.

Why shouldn't we help our fellow collectors so they know the difference?  It'd be like letting people call Glory/Sparkler Rarity instead, because Rarity was based on those two G1s.  There's no malice behind it, just an honest wish to help others learn and honour past generations. 

If someone wants to deliberately choose to use one or the other for a different generation, that's a choice, but it's hard to know you have a choice, or that there is another term that might also be appropriate, if no one tells you.
Title: Re: cutie marks
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 03, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
Okay, the Tux and Tails thing was a bad example.

I'm okay with people simply explaining it to be helpful if that's what they're doing.  I appologise if I spoke out of turn.  It's because I'm so used to the kind of people who would, for example "correct" someone who included a G1 pony with a cutie mark in a fanfiction or something, even if the fanfiction took place in G4 or G3, and she was the only G1 pony there.

I'm doing a fan series which takes place after G4 (it's non-canon), but ponies from all generations will appear for example, but I will use the term cutie marks for all ponies, since they will in fact share a world. (I know someone else said that symbols are on both sides and cuite marks are on one, but in the G4 series, it is both sides (why the toys didn't follow that, I don't know) and my fanseries will copy that, so they will be cutie marks in mine).

Like I say, I appologise if I spoke out of turn, now that I realize what people were doing. I'm not saying my fanseries will be good, but I hope people don't turn against it when I include a G1 pony, and mention his or her "cutie mark".
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