The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => Off Topic => Topic started by: Kaeldre on February 13, 2013, 07:12:22 AM
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For the past 5 years, I've used Herbal Essences Drama Clean shampoo/conditioner. I haven't found anything that compares to it. The only problem is that it looks like Target, Walmart, and various drug stores have stopped carrying it. The only other place that carries it is the Air Force base exchange (20 minute drive!) and even then they only have like, three bottles of conditioner on the shelves. I snatch them up and they only seem to last for a few weeks (I have really long, thick hair so it takes a lot to condition it). They don't sell the big, bulk bottles either.
Well, I've run out and the only other conditioners I have in the house are Herbal Essences Long-Term Relationship and Tresseme Naturals moisturizing conditioner. The first one smells God-awful and leaves mounds of icky build-up and the second one just makes my hair stringy and weighs it down so it's impossible to work with! It also leaves a bit of ick. ><
All I want is a good refreshing conditioner that compares to Drama Clean. What say you guys?
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Aussie has a Cleansing conditioner/shampoo line. I use the Shampoo - give it a whirl?
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I have thick long hair, that i have fried with bleach and dye.. :blush: but i just started using this brand. its new but my hair feels awesome! i have the shampoo, conditioner and conditioning balm.... last weekend i bleached my hair and it was soooo dry, so i put the balm in my hair for a few hours while i watched tv... let me tell you, my hair feels so soft and amazing now! you may want to try it they have a few different formulas the link below is for the one i have. i got it at walmart and its not too expensive either.
http://www.target.com/p/l-oreal-advanced-haircare-total-repair-5-restoring-shampoo/-/A-14337661
plus my hair doesnt feel greasy when im done. :)
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I've heard great things about Mane and Tail, but all the store here always sold out. I have bad timing or it really that good. I currently use Suave professional. I would take the kind you like and compare the ingredient list with others. Find one that has the same stuff in the same order. Most likely to get the same result.
Herbal essence is a big let down. They had one product for frizz control that I like and they got rid of it; so I used another frizz control by them and loved it till they added some mango oil crap and it smells awful and leave my hair oily. Lots of bad review for them on there wed page cause they changed ingredient on their products.
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I never liked Mane & Tail myself. It made my hair feel like it had a.........weird film or something on it.
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http://www.gudhappens.com/natural-personal-care-products/hair/
I use Gud by Burt's Bees. I have long thick hair too and a little of the conditioner goes a long way. Smells good too! Does not weigh my hair down like a lot of other conditioners out there.
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Pantene is another that works out I think.
Goodluck <3
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Maybe it's an obvious observation, but different hairs react differently to various products. I have long, straight, light hair and my mom has thick, dark, curly hair and we never found a shampoo or conditioner we're both happy with. As a rule, if I like it, she hates it and vice versa. So I say the best thing you can do is try various brands out. My experience also tells me that switching out shampoos from time to time makes the hair feel silkier and shinier so I tend to switch around if I can.
I do however use Nivea's conditioner and I love it. Since my end result almost always comes down to the conditioner, rather than a shampoo, the only criteria I have for the shampoo is that it's not tested on animals.
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I have long, thick hair too and I'm still trying to find something decent :huh: I've gone through so many types, from cheap to really expensive salon, all natural - everything. I'm using Garnier Fructis for dry damaged hair, it's okay. Much better than the Pantene I was using before. My hair is still dry though and it sheds a lot.
Once I even talked to a supposed professional at a salon and they recommend this J-Pack... or, something, I can't recall the name. Anyway, it wasn't cheap and it was horrid. Ugh. It made my hair feel like plastic.
Sorry I'm not much help. But I can sympathize!
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I swear by Paul Mitchell shampoos. They're a bit pricier, but they're amazing on my hair.
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I think I'm going to give Aussie a try. I've heard great things about it. o:
I've looked at the salon stuff (mainly TIGI and Matrix) and, while it is pricey, I'm willing to try it if nothing else works. Once I found a shampoo/conditioner I liked I'd hoped I'd never have to do this again. xD
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I have thick hair (used to have long too but it gave me migraines daily so off it went), I also have eczema and psoriasis. I have issues with shampoos and conditioner, I go through different phases and try different things. I have the Aussie right now, family size and I love it. I was using the red Herbal Essence bottled stuff, but after a while I kept getting itchy.
I used to love the original herbal essence, but like all good things, it gets changed. You can always write the company and explain how much you love that product and your wondering where it's vanished to. They might be just changing the bottle design or something.
I DO however recommend using a vinegar rinse or adding baking soda to your shampoo every so often. It removes build up of products and just ick. The vinegar rinse you do after washing/conditioning your hair- a small cup half water/half vinegar. It's really amazing and doesn't make you stink honest. The baking soda method, you just sprinkle some into your shampoo you have in your hand and wash like normal. This does take a bit longer to remove all of the shampoo and sometimes will make the tub slippery- so this one use with caution unless you wash your hair in the sink.
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Have you tried looking for it in bulk on ebay or amazon? Also if they are phasing it out maybe Big Lots, Dollar General, etc has it.
A new shampoo I can't help you on that. I've been trying for years to find one that works for me.
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I prefer Drama Clean as well. But when it's not around I use another herbal essence "flavor". They all work about the same but some smell better. Try out another kind if they have them. Otherwise, if you're like me, you might not find another brand as good. My hair really prefers herbal essence.
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I prefer Drama Clean as well. But when it's not around I use another herbal essence "flavor". They all work about the same but some smell better. Try out another kind if they have them. Otherwise, if you're like me, you might not find another brand as good. My hair really prefers herbal essence.
I have a giant bottle of Herbal Essences Long-Term Relationship conditioner that I use as backup. Oh my god the residue it leaves behind! I'm hesitant to try any of their other stuff out after that. >_<
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I've used that one before and didn't like it. But I don't recall why.
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Well.
Amazon has the giant 23 oz bottles of every other Herbal Essences flavour EXCEPT for Drama Clean. -___-
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I have the same problem. My favorite schampoo got discontinued a few years ago and I'm still struggling to find a new one. I've been going through a lot of them, from cheap supermarket brands to expensive hairsaloon ones and none's ok. I found a conditioner I really liked from Lee Stafford and decided to try out the schampoo and I got rashes allover my head which I'm still trying to heal while using my boyfriends antidandruff schampoo for sensitive scalp.
I did try and really liked a schampoo from Kerstin Florian (swedish brand), that I got to use at a spa but paying more than 60 dollars for a bottle feels too much. I'm stil considering it tho.. just wondering where to get that funding from.
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I'm using Totally Twisted right now (even though my hair is straight). It seems lightweight.
Can you buy mini travel bottles to test different kinds?
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I haven't used shampoo or conditioner in over a year now, so I couldn't recommend any good ones. I cleanse my hair with a water and baking soda blend, and rinse with a apple cider vinegar, water, and rosemary oil rinse. My hair has NEVER been this healthy before when I was still using shampoo and conditioner. However, I'm finding that I need to add more rosemary oil to the ACV rinse during winter than during the summer. Especially with this seriously cold and snowy winter we've been dealing with here in NJ this year.
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I haven't used shampoo or conditioner in over a year now, so I couldn't recommend any good ones. I cleanse my hair with a water and baking soda blend, and rinse with a apple cider vinegar, water, and rosemary oil rinse.
May I ask what kind of hair you have? Fine, thick, curly, straight?
I'd love to break my "vicious cycle" of having to wash it almost daily... it's become very thin recently, and I don't want to torture my last few strands with all those chemicals any more. Maybe your method works with them, too...
Oh, and can rosemary oil be replaced by something else, say, a blend of orange or lemongrass and lavender oil or something like that?
By the way: the one hair product I can kind of recommend is "American Cream" from Lush, which should be available in the US, too. This strange stuff seems to work with any kind of hair... but the big, nasty downside is: it costs a fortune. Thus I can only use it on very special occasions and have to stick with something more affordable for the regular use, where I tried many, many things but still haven't found the holy grail...
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Do you have a LUSH near you? Their hair stuff is great, and they'll give you free samples of the products, and offer refunds if the product doesn't work out for you :) My hair is so short I don't use conditioner but I can vouce for their other products working like a charm!
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I tried a new brand today. I got it from Natural Grocers called Desert Essence. It smells good and it seeming to tame my dry, frizzy, curly, thick hair.
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I haven't used shampoo or conditioner in over a year now, so I couldn't recommend any good ones. I cleanse my hair with a water and baking soda blend, and rinse with a apple cider vinegar, water, and rosemary oil rinse.
May I ask what kind of hair you have? Fine, thick, curly, straight?
I'd love to break my "vicious cycle" of having to wash it almost daily... it's become very thin recently, and I don't want to torture my last few strands with all those chemicals any more. Maybe your method works with them, too...
Oh, and can rosemary oil be replaced by something else, say, a blend of orange or lemongrass and lavender oil or something like that?
By the way: the one hair product I can kind of recommend is "American Cream" from Lush, which should be available in the US, too. This strange stuff seems to work with any kind of hair... but the big, nasty downside is: it costs a fortune. Thus I can only use it on very special occasions and have to stick with something more affordable for the regular use, where I tried many, many things but still haven't found the holy grail...
I have very fine sand blonde hair, and it's getting curlier as I get older, but I have a LOT of it and it's very long ( about mid back right now. ).
I've noticed that since I've been using the baking soda / water, and ACV rinse, stopped using a hair dryer, and use nothing but a wide toothed comb and a paddle brush, I'm not getting the crazy split ends I used to get AND my hair feels like it's growing faster and has a thicker feel to it. I fiiiinally have my, "Princess Bride", hair that I've been longing for! I do need to go in for the annual trim soon, though, and maybe a coloring, before Big Apple Ponycon next month.
You might really want to research that. I personally use the rosemary oil because it's helped add a bit of shine, body, and bounce, it's helped to darken my hair a little bit, and it also helps to get rid of dandruff and itchies.
http://babyslime.livejournal.com/174054.html
Babyslime on Livejournal has an AWESOME journal entry on going, "no 'poo", and she explains everything. Just a warning, though: if you DO decide to try this out, be prepared to stick with it for the first few weeks. The transition period can be crazy. It'll take your hair, scalp, and oil glands a bit of time to get used to not being stripped of all it's natural oils. And like with shampoos and conditioners, everyone is going to need to use a different recipe. My transition period gave me a rats nest of hair until my hair became used to having it's own natural oils and it calmed down. It also took several trial recipes before I came up with one that worked for me.
Mine not work for you, so try out different ones until you find one that works for you. Everyone once in a blue moon, I'll even deep condition with a catnip tea rinse. My cat LOVES me when I do this and tries to nest in my hair at night, but my hair comes out soooooooo soft afterwards.
Though since you do have fine hair, I'll warn against using avocado and olive oil. Don't do it. You'll become a grease truck and it takes having to use dish detergent to wash it out. Fine hair doesn't require a lot of conditioning, as our hair can't soak up moisture like thick hair can. It just ends up sitting on the strand.
Google long hair community as well. They have an excellent subforum for natural hair home made products.
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Lets us know how you get on with Aussie. My hair isn't thick or long, but i have damage from coloring it a lot, and I've found it works wonders for me.
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I have very fine sand blonde hair, and it's getting curlier as I get older, but I have a LOT of it and it's very long ( about mid back right now. ).
I've noticed that since I've been using the baking soda / water, and ACV rinse, stopped using a hair dryer, and use nothing but a wide toothed comb and a paddle brush, I'm not getting the crazy split ends I used to get AND my hair feels like it's growing faster and has a thicker feel to it. I fiiiinally have my, "Princess Bride", hair that I've been longing for! I do need to go in for the annual trim soon, though, and maybe a coloring, before Big Apple Ponycon next month.
You might really want to research that. I personally use the rosemary oil because it's helped add a bit of shine, body, and bounce, it's helped to darken my hair a little bit, and it also helps to get rid of dandruff and itchies.
http://babyslime.livejournal.com/174054.html
Babyslime on Livejournal has an AWESOME journal entry on going, "no 'poo", and she explains everything. Just a warning, though: if you DO decide to try this out, be prepared to stick with it for the first few weeks. The transition period can be crazy. It'll take your hair, scalp, and oil glands a bit of time to get used to not being stripped of all it's natural oils. And like with shampoos and conditioners, everyone is going to need to use a different recipe. My transition period gave me a rats nest of hair until my hair became used to having it's own natural oils and it calmed down. It also took several trial recipes before I came up with one that worked for me.
Mine not work for you, so try out different ones until you find one that works for you. Everyone once in a blue moon, I'll even deep condition with a catnip tea rinse. My cat LOVES me when I do this and tries to nest in my hair at night, but my hair comes out soooooooo soft afterwards.
Though since you do have fine hair, I'll warn against using avocado and olive oil. Don't do it. You'll become a grease truck and it takes having to use dish detergent to wash it out. Fine hair doesn't require a lot of conditioning, as our hair can't soak up moisture like thick hair can. It just ends up sitting on the strand.
Google long hair community as well. They have an excellent subforum for natural hair home made products.
Wow, Bee-Chan! Thank you so much for your nice and comprehensive answer, and thank you for the link! So it seems our hair is, well, not the same but similar.
Mine is very fine, but there aren't many of them left. They're somewhat dishwater blonde, and currently shoulder length. Indeed, Olive Oil is not my thing. Tried it once - what a mess! :D
I knew already a German long hair community - sadly most of the users there seem to have rather thick hair, so most of the recommendations I read there (such as oil treatments :cool:) didn't work for me. I've even got a husband with waist length hair - but things which are great for him make me but a greasehead. So I'm really, really glad you gave me some usable information for fine hair!
Catnip sounds fun, by the way. :biggrin: Mr. Cat loves my hair already without it... when I'm on the sofa, he sometimes jumps on the backrest, holds my head in his paws and rubs his head on my hair, tries to lick it and purrs... :lookround: I wonder what happens if I rinsed it with catnip. :D Rosemary, however, doesn't exactly seem right for me - I don't have dandruff (fortunately) and I wish my hair was a bit lighter...
A big, big thank you again! :ohyeah: :worshippy:
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I've heard great things about Mane and Tail, but all the store here always sold out. I have bad timing or it really that good. I currently use Suave professional. I would take the kind you like and compare the ingredient list with others. Find one that has the same stuff in the same order. Most likely to get the same result.
Herbal essence is a big let down. They had one product for frizz control that I like and they got rid of it; so I used another frizz control by them and loved it till they added some mango oil crap and it smells awful and leave my hair oily. Lots of bad review for them on there wed page cause they changed ingredient on their products.
This may sound odd, but if you have any feed and seed type stores for horse supplies, I've used that before. XD; Hope that might be helpful...
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I think Aussie's Confidently Clean conditioner has won me over. :3
I was a little skeptical at first when I saw how runny it was, but after I used it I was amazed at how soft and clean it made my hair feel! No icky buildup to speak of.
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I make my own as I do have hair that's past my butt :blush:
It is clean and has kept me from getting split ends..
1 tea spoon of olive oil,
Half a Banana,
1 table spoon of honey,
2 table spoons of green tea,
and a bit of any conditioner,
Put it in the blender. poor it it in a Cup/Bottle and use it like you would any normal conditioner.