But you know, just because that particular part of the "fandom" has lost its appeal, doesn't mean that you have to give up on ponies.
The pony community as a whole has been around for a very long time and has worked very hard to be welcoming and friendly. I don't think that any of us have ever really used the term fandom to describe ourselves, because we're not. We're a bunch of people who came together to celebrate and share our love of ponies, no matter what generation. We are friends, we take care of each other. So even if you find yourself feeling lost, just remember that there are still a few small islands on the internet where people care about one another. :D
........congratulations, I think you just won 5 internets with your wisdom.Because most forums, and what seems like most people (especially online), just plain aren't nice.
See and this is just reinforcing everything I've been thinking. For the most part everyone here is really nice!! Why can't the bronies be like this too??? Ugh I will never understand.
Because most forums, and what seems like most people (especially online), just plain aren't nice.
Because most forums, and what seems like most people (especially online), just plain aren't nice.
Seriously, I just want to know what happened to 'love and tolerate'?
Oh for the love of god...that is ridiculous...Seriously, I just want to know what happened to 'love and tolerate'?
Believe it or not, that was never meant to be taken seriously. It was originally just a counter bronies would throw at trolls and haters, but some took it seriously, and it was adopted as the slogan. I've seen some of the bad myself, and sometimes there is very little love and tolerance. A good example is Alicorns. If you decide to make an Alicorn original character, you will get grilled for it, as many consider OC ones Mary Sues, and the only Alicorns allowed are Luna, Celestia, Cadence, and Lauren's own OC of herself (double standard anyone?).
If you decide to make an Alicorn original character, you will get grilled for it, as many consider OC ones Mary Sues, and the only Alicorns allowed are Luna, Celestia, Cadence, and Lauren's own OC of herself (double standard anyone?).I always figured Lauren Faust got away with making an Alicorn because she's considered to be the creator/"mother" of the FiM series. And how a lot of bronies treat her like a goddess, which is similar to how Celestia and Luna are in the show (unless I'm totally wrong on this, which I could be. xD) So to the bronies, it's okay for her to have an Alicorn character.
I bet Lauren Faust will think very little of bronies when she finds out they mock and make fun of the other generations in which she loved.Pretty sure she already knows about the past gen hate, along with other not-so-nice things. :(
I know some nice people who identify as "bronies", but overall the brony community has this underlying tendency towards creepy zealousness. Like they're on a religious mission or something. I think it ties into the fact that a lot of them are still deeply insecure about liking a girl's toyline. Even the word "brony" emphasizes masculinity.
I actually think that bronies have a much stronger sense of community than we do, but in a rather unhealthy way. We are an excellent, helpful, knowledgeable community here, but at the end of the day we all live our own lives. There's much more of a sense of "sink or swim together" with bronies, IMO. Much more of a tendency to turn into a frothing mob if someone insults FIM, is offended by Drama Pony, etc. Hell, I have seen them pitch a fit over Lyra's original blindbag name, Heartstrings. And that is probably one of the best names Hasbro has come up with since the year 2000!
I just keep wondering what they would've done if Hasbro had called her "Tink-a-Tink-a-Too" or "Beebop" . . .
I know some nice people who identify as "bronies", but overall the brony community has this underlying tendency towards creepy zealousness. Like they're on a religious mission or something. I think it ties into the fact that a lot of them are still deeply insecure about liking a girl's toyline. Even the word "brony" emphasizes masculinity.In that particular instance I was kind of disappointed they didn't stick with Lyra, but it was their decision. But I see what you're saying.
I actually think that bronies have a much stronger sense of community than we do, but in a rather unhealthy way. We are an excellent, helpful, knowledgeable community here, but at the end of the day we all live our own lives. There's much more of a sense of "sink or swim together" with bronies, IMO. Much more of a tendency to turn into a frothing mob if someone insults FIM, is offended by Drama Pony, etc. Hell, I have seen them pitch a fit over Lyra's original blindbag name, Heartstrings. And that is probably one of the best names Hasbro has come up with since the year 2000!
I just keep wondering what they would've done if Hasbro had called her "Tink-a-Tink-a-Too" or "Beebop" . . .
If you decide to make an Alicorn original character, you will get grilled for it, as many consider OC ones Mary Sues, and the only Alicorns allowed are Luna, Celestia, Cadence, and Lauren's own OC of herself (double standard anyone?).I always figured Lauren Faust got away with making an Alicorn because she's considered to be the creator/"mother" of the FiM series. And how a lot of bronies treat her like a goddess, which is similar to how Celestia and Luna are in the show (unless I'm totally wrong on this, which I could be. xD) So to the bronies, it's okay for her to have an Alicorn character.
But yeah, I do dislike how Alicorn OC = automatic Mary Sue. I've actually seen some pretty neat Alicorn OCs, and I actually made an alicorn pony out of a fan character I have, hehe.
Honestly, Lauren's isn't even an "OC". Its a pony sona if anything. If I remember right she sketched it as a representation of herself for an interview or something with EqD?, but bronies took it really seriously. Vectors and stuff started popping up and when I left the fandom that was how a lot of bronies saw her, as a pony, for good and bad reasons.[/center]Yeah, it was for an interview of them. IIRC, people had asked her what would she look like if she was a ponysona because they wanted to draw her as a pony.
Honestly, Lauren's isn't even an "OC". Its a pony sona if anything. If I remember right she sketched it as a representation of herself for an interview or something with EqD?, but bronies took it really seriously. Vectors and stuff started popping up and when I left the fandom that was how a lot of bronies saw her, as a pony, for good and bad reasons.Yeah, it was for an interview of them. IIRC, people had asked her what would she look like if she was a ponysona because they wanted to draw her as a pony.
Don't let the fandom dictate how you enjoy MLP. If you love the toys and love the show, keep on watching and collecting. Avoid those places where that type congregate, and stick to the pockets of sanity and tranquility like this forum. If you don't want to be called a pegasister, then don't use the term, and when someone asks if you are, just say, "Nah, I'm just a fan of MLP."
As a male fan of the G4 show, I'm kinda saddled (no pun intended) with the title brony. I don't mind it really, but I'm definitely cut from a different cloth than the typical brony. I love the show, I collect the toys, I carry my blind bag Fluttershy with me everywhere, have a couple pony shirts I wear, and I'm working on a Fluttershy costume, but I don't get into the stories or music and whatnot associated with the fandom. I do love some of the art though. I've been a geek for years and years, and I've become comfortable with liking what I like and showing it. If anyone has a problem with it, well, that's their problem and not mine!
Just remember, you dictate the fandom. Don't let the fandom dictate how YOU enjoy it.
I only belong to one brony board which is Equestria forums. It's a generally friendly place. I'm glad to say I haven't really seen the crap you people do, but I already tend to steer clear of it. I wouldn't touch some other pony site with a ten foot pole.
However, when the brony shirt with G1 ponies on it came out, my jaw practically dropped at the conniption people through on Equestria Daily. Maybe it's because I'm a longtime fan of G1, but I took it in stride. If it had Fizzy and Wind Whistler on it, I would have bought one. However, people commenting on the Equestria Daily article were treating it like a betrayal and wanted to burn whole stocks of the shirts.
I was also introduced to the ramblings of David Kerr who wrote a doctoral thesis of why the royal wedding was bad which was a wall of asinine ranting. I actually into an argument with him about Twilight and company surrendering when the changelings already held Canterlot Tower as he believed they should have fought to the death. I was like 1) this is a kids show 2) sometimes surrendering and waiting the enemy out is the best option. I eventually just left the argument because he got more insane with every post.
I don't think this is a fad. While the community will ebb, I don't think it'll disappear. Hopefully that ebb will take the bad behavior with it.
No one requires every fan who like FiM to accept the Brony/Pegasister label. If you don't want it, don't take it. Be a fan of MLP and enjoy what it has to offer.
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Are you serious? When I saw that shirt, I thought "Hey, that's a cool shirt and probably the only pony shirt I'd buy!" I don't like the majority of bronies purely because they "bash" previous generations. I grew up to G1.Same here. Watched the cartoon when it repeated on Disney (I was not even three when the show's original run ended.)
I still never dreamed that when the new MLP show came out a couple years ago that in the future they would be catering to bronies and primarily male fans. :/ Nothing wrong with men liking the show, but I never thought MLP would take this turn. It makes me angry to think about.
I was doing some thinking and wanted to add on some more to this statement of mine.
I just want to get it out there that I have NO problem with male fans of the show nor male collectors. What I DO have an issue with is the sexism that starts when a fanbase goes primarily male. Disrespect to female fans, guys claiming it's only cool because men like it, selfishness in expecting the sh ow to cater to them, and disregard for the show's original roots (ex: hating on G3s and G1s).
I was very active in the anime community for years. I used to be very into anime. I still have a collection of about 900 anime DVDs. But I never watch it anymore. I haven't watched anime in about two years. I got sick of all the creepers in the fandom, sexism, etc. Like guys would watch a show that has a lot of what you'd call "fanservice" for women and complain about it when most anime shows out there are catered to men. So when ONE show does it, they whine and moan. This is what I fear the FiM show is spawning.
I also used to be active on sites for video games. Same thing there. Sarcasm towards female players, bashing any female-pandered game, etc.
Please don't bash me for this. It's just my feelings. I've never been one for cosplay. I think there IS a time and place for it, and I have seen some cute pony cosplay. I am going to my first pony convention in July. My brothers and maybe my parents will accompany me and even pay their own cover charge to get in. I already dread the spectacles they'll see. I mean, JERRY SPRINGER had a special with bronies. A big guy dressed in a pink tutu and a girl dressed as Rainbow Dash doing skits on the show. I know this convention is going to have tons of this crap. To me it borders on creepy. I am hoping for a convention with a bunch of fans/collectors getting together and chatting, buying, selling, and trading. But my brother is SUPER excited to see some of the hardcore fans and dudes dressed up as ponies. They say it will be great facebook fodder. They are threatening to become bronies and dress up as unicorns. LOL.
Cosplayers, please don't hate me. I used to think it was cool until I met some people that don't know the difference between cosplay and reality. Took a Japanese class in college and most of them were anime fans. I don't think it's cool to come to class with cat ears. I felt embarrassed walking in there. Maybe I'm too uptight?
*sigh* I don't like being negative. I loved the MLP community because it's a great community to embrace the femininity of liking colorful ponies (and a great place for men who love ponies to embrace to too!). But the new fans, the bronies, have made my enjoyment of the G4s dwindle. I feel as a collector who has been into ponies for 15 years is being pushed out of my own fandom. Maybe I am strange for feeling this way but ponies are a large part of my life, as they are for many of us. Many members here spend time every day on this forum so they know what I mean. It's bad when you are the ones who supported MLP for so long and now that a new group has come in and taken over, it's all for them.
I honestly don't see the need to label yourself or put yourself in a certin category just because you like something.
Most people have so many different interests/hobbies/things they like so technically we should all have about a gazillion different labels if we were to label ourselves after everything we enjoy.
The pony community as a whole has been around for a very long time and has worked very hard to be welcoming and friendly. I don't think that any of us have ever really used the term fandom to describe ourselves, because we're not. We're a bunch of people who came together to celebrate and share our love of ponies, no matter what generation. We are friends, we take care of each other. So even if you find yourself feeling lost, just remember that there are still a few small islands on the internet where people care about one another. :D
I honestly don't see the need to label yourself or put yourself in a certin category just because you like something.
Most people have so many different interests/hobbies/things they like so technically we should all have about a gazillion different labels if we were to label ourselves after everything we enjoy.
I'm a ponyknittingcraftingreadingwritingphotographybakingcookingcatlovingcomicnerd
librarianzooanimalzatannadollvideogamepokemon-sister! :D
I can back-up the Alicorn statement. There was a young girl on DA, who made a lovely Alicorn OC. Her design was lovely and colourful, and she seemed like a great character. Unfortanutley, a few Bronies tried to shoot her down for making her an Alicorn. I defended her, and they eventually backed off.Seriously, I just want to know what happened to 'love and tolerate'?
Believe it or not, that was never meant to be taken seriously. It was originally just a counter bronies would throw at trolls and haters, but some took it seriously, and it was adopted as the slogan. I've seen some of the bad myself, and sometimes there is very little love and tolerance. A good example is Alicorns. If you decide to make an Alicorn original character, you will get grilled for it, as many consider OC ones Mary Sues, and the only Alicorns allowed are Luna, Celestia, Cadence, and Lauren's own OC of herself (double standard anyone?).
Honestly I've seen worse fandoms (like Invader Zim and other works by its creator, yeesh). Since Lauren Faust left Hasbro Studios, Bronies have started to become less pleased with the show, and I think in time they will end up losing interest completely. Some fans are in it just for Lauren Faust and not actually ponies.I've noticed that. The Crystal Empire got mixed reviews with many complaints landing squarely on Sombra for not being an in your face villain like the previous antagonists. I've seen people complaining there's too much fanservice in the show like bringing Trixie back (which was supposed to happen last season according Meghan McCarthy) and Xeroxing Pinkie too many times.
No matter what you're into, there will always be a stuck up, bad attitude fan base that is cruel to everyone and think they are the God of all fans. I've learned that the hard way. Luckily, we have the Arena which doesn't have all that drama and obnoxious behavior.exactly :)
It's the last internet fan base forum I actually visit. I gave up on all the others. I don't have time for drama and immaturity over things I like. Some people just take things too far. I wouldn't pay them any attention. You can still call yourself what you like. You don't have to associate with them though.
I've heard terrible things about "Bronies" but this is the only Pony forum, and fan forum for anything at all, that I go to. So I've never dealt first hand with them. But from what I've heard.. I wouldn't pay them any mind. People like that can live off in their delusional world for all I care.
As long as I keep on being happy with the things I like.. they can't get to me. ;)
Technically, the meaning of word "Brony" is "male fan of Friendship is Magic". Nothing more nothing less. Everything else is just an interpretation.
As a proud and active Brony, I really, really dislike this thread. Please don't think the bad ones are the only ones who make up my fandom.
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I can assure you there's much more to the MLP fandom than this. Much more.
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I feel unwelcomed.
As a proud and active Brony, I really, really dislike this thread. Please don't think the bad ones are the only ones who make up my fandom.
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I can assure you there's much more to the MLP fandom than this. Much more.
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I feel unwelcomed.