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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Marlin on November 21, 2012, 07:18:13 PM
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I love sun fading. I've had some awesome results over time, but boy... these three...
These three gals have had a serious dose of stark, bleaching, uninhibited sunlight... and I'm just not getting anywhere!!!
Can I have opinions please as to whether you think I'm going to eventually get these marks out?
First up: Tutti Frutti. The marks were originally bright pink, but are now a stubborn orange and not budging.
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Second: Sunny Bunch. The spot bang in the middle of her forehead is her only flaw. It was originally bright orange, like highlighter. Now a faint pink. Worried it might be regrind and this is as good as it's gonna get?
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And lastly little Heart Throb: What the heck is this? It doesn't look like cancer up close - it kinda has an inky look to it (but please deliver me bad news if I'm delusional). Nothing is budging it! Several days in the sun not doing much good, either.
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Ideas, folks? :what:
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I think they probably need a lot longer in the sun. I've had ponies sunfading over two years, and eventually it worked.
For baby heartthrob, have you tried any cleaning methods on the marks? If so maybe a little acetone carefully applied to the marks?
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Yep, I'd give them more time, especially tutti frutti, I'm guessing you've been covering up the parts you don't want faded on her. Do you rotate her, like flip her upside down and turn her sideways, gotta get all angles...
I've had a baby noddins (purple body too) in the window for a good 8 months and she had hot pink allover her face. You can still lightly see the pink just like your sunny bunch.
As for baby heart throb; even if it's cancer it may fade a bit. Like Party said, if you haven't tried something to clean her you might want to.
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Yeah I have a few myself that are like that. I took them out of windows now that snow is here to stay, and several of them have to have a second spring/summer in the sunshine as the marks still have not faded. Lots of patience!
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Cheers, everyone :) Le-sigh.... I've had these dearies (well, Tutti Frutti and Sunny Bunch at least) for what seems weeks in the sun. I'm worried about overdoing it. Anyone know if these ponies are prone to burning or anything? If it's reasonably safe to continue (covering up other parts of the pony, of course!) I guess I'll just have to exercise patience! :P
Re Heart Throb, she's a recent acquisition, so she hasn't had as long in the sun but I'll keep trying. I've tried magic eraser and a bit of nail polish remover very carefully on the spots and neither did anything. I don't have pure acetone. Any other suggestions? She was re-haired by a very competent customiser so I'm reluctant to dip her in an oxy bath or something as the person who re-haired her mentioned she'd re-sealed the head with glue and I think she put some glue on the inside of her too (I can't quite remember that detail, I've have to go back in my pm's and re-check!)
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In theory just about every pony can burn or discolour but those shown are not particularly known for it, so if I was you I would simply keep an eye on them.
I am going to agree with what everyone above has said...keep trying and leave them out longer. As BFB has said I have read people saying they have sun faded for months and months or even a year+ in order to shift the most stubborn stains. I am not sure where in the world you are Marlin so its also largely going to be dependant on the UV intensity of your sunlight at the moment - you may have more luck later in the year.
I would try magic eraser on Baby Heart Throb as well just in case that helps her.
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Thanks, Hathorcat :) I'm in New Zealand, so now's the time to get those ponies cooking :biggrin: I guess I'll just have to be persistent and watchful. They're all tinfoiled back up and roasting again as we speak!
And thank you, I had tried the magic eraser on heart throb earlier. Unfortunately it didn't work its magic that time!
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No problem. And yes this is certainly the time to enjoy your weather then if you are in NZ :). Have you tried sitting them out somewhere the UV is going to get really intense? The parcel shelf or dashboard of a car which is sitting out under the sun is usually pretty good for this.
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Baby Heartthrob's looks like tough staining, I have one pony (a G2) who has stains from road tar (don't ask) and never could get rid of it. It' might just be ingrain dirt, but it's hard for me to say really. I've never had luck with Magic Eraser, however, you still might be safe doing the oxy bath if the person who rehaired her did in fact use hot glue to hold the hair in.
You could try baking soda mixed into a past and do a good scrub down
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Cheers again everyone for your welcome advice! :)
Yeah, Baby Heart Throb a strange one... I could give that baking soda a go - anything's worth a try, right? :) I don't think it's ingrained dirt... it's very odd... it's sort of greeny brown. I'd take a closer picture if I could but the camera gets out of focus which wouldn't help much. I think you're right though - some sort of staining in the vinyl. Not tar though, luckily!
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No problem. And yes this is certainly the time to enjoy your weather then if you are in NZ :). Have you tried sitting them out somewhere the UV is going to get really intense? The parcel shelf or dashboard of a car which is sitting out under the sun is usually pretty good for this.
That'll get it very hot but unless the car is really ancient the glass is UV treated, and even plain glass blocks UV rays shorter than 350 nm. For restoring ABS plastic the desired wavelength is 300-350 nm in conjunction with a peroxide formula (a more scientific version of the Transformers method of putting the toy in a tupperware full of peroxide and leaving it in the sun).
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Thank god its a Kiwi summer coming up, one week with the ozone hole and they'll be fine!
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I know some people swear by this and others say it does nothing, but I can say if you're worried about burning the girls try the peroxide method. I had someone mention to me that it helped avoid burning, and I actually had a girl that was fried and sunburned badly. She looks better than she did before now and lost her burn for the most part (except on the side I didn't leave out long enough still has a bit). Dunno how it helps, but it did my girls.
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That'll get it very hot but unless the car is really ancient the glass is UV treated, and even plain glass blocks UV rays shorter than 350 nm. For restoring ABS plastic the desired wavelength is 300-350 nm in conjunction with a peroxide formula (a more scientific version of the Transformers method of putting the toy in a tupperware full of peroxide and leaving it in the sun).
What the?!
hee hee... love it! :lol:
Cheers for the peroxide mentions - I think that'll be a last resort for me, though - I might try and exercise patience first!
And Loa - lol! Yep... I've been considering that hole and wondering if it might have one troublesome advantage. So far though it's only burned me! ...reaches for sunscreen....
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Unfortunately peroxide can dry out hair. You've got ponies that really need paint covered up and peroxide will help to quicken paint discoloration/fading.
How lucky you are to be in an area with sun! Winter is sliding in here and sunfading is now going to take forever x5... LOL.
Let us know how things are going with the sunfading in a few weeks??
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I don't know if this might help for Baby Heart Throb, but I recently tried a salon-strength nail varnish remover and it worked for budging some more stubborn stains. It's higher acetone than the standard stuff, but lower than the pure acetone that's harder to come by, and it doesn't smell any worse than regular remover.
(I'm going to be following the progress on your sunfading; I have a pretty Parasol with a blob of marker smack dab in the centre of her forehead, quite like your Sunnybunch but in dark purple :doh:)
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No problem. And yes this is certainly the time to enjoy your weather then if you are in NZ :). Have you tried sitting them out somewhere the UV is going to get really intense? The parcel shelf or dashboard of a car which is sitting out under the sun is usually pretty good for this.
That'll get it very hot but unless the car is really ancient the glass is UV treated, and even plain glass blocks UV rays shorter than 350 nm. For restoring ABS plastic the desired wavelength is 300-350 nm in conjunction with a peroxide formula (a more scientific version of the Transformers method of putting the toy in a tupperware full of peroxide and leaving it in the sun).
No don't worry it still works :) I have seen amazing success with this over the years. The glass blocks short wave UV but not long wave UV that's why many professional drivers or those using cars extensively are advised to still wear sunscreen and even have additional screening on windows. Plus as mentioned below ponies are not made from ABS plastic so they cope differently.
The theory you mention of hydrogen peroxide in the sun has always confused me. If you leave an HP solution open to the air or exposed to air and sun it will simply become water...and it can do so within a very short period of time. So you may as well simply soak the pony in water. In addition ponies are not made from ABS plastics - although pony playsets are. I have certainly seen the practice of H202 on harder based plastics over the years in an attempt to remove yellowing and bromide staining but I honestly have seen more success in pony collecting with people who simply expose a pony to sunlight though glass.
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Wow.... I am endlessly fascinated by what you people know!
I will keep you guys posted with what (if any!) progress I have with the three ponies I have! ;)
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Acetone hard to come by? I found mine in an auto parts store, and it's well worth getting.
Maybe I can get in on all of this awesome expertise. :biggrin: I have a Fashion Style Fluttershy that I rescued from a thrift store, and the poor girl had a rough life with her last owner. I don't think sunfading is an option here. She has purple pen marks (pen, not marker) in one ear, in both eyes, and on her scalp. Magic Eraser didn't work. :( I can repaint her eyes if I need to, but what about the scalp mark? Would acetone leech into the hair plugs and dissolve the glue holding them in?
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Unfortunately peroxide can dry out hair. You've got ponies that really need paint covered up and peroxide will help to quicken paint discoloration/fading.
How lucky you are to be in an area with sun! Winter is sliding in here and sunfading is now going to take forever x5... LOL.
Let us know how things are going with the sunfading in a few weeks??
Really? I haven't had that happen yet. I'm only on number five, but my girls have come out better than they went in. I did have an unfortunate accident with some painters tape once (not in peroxide) it rubbed off on one girl and stained her symbol blue. That was just her sitting around with it before going to sunfade...it was odd. >_<
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i have one on my dash now. it gets a good 8 hours of sun a day, so i'm hoping it won't take too long. i must look like a total nut driving around with a pink tail-less pony with tinfoil on her hair and tape on her eyes on my dash, but if it works i reckon i can handle it!!!
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No problem. And yes this is certainly the time to enjoy your weather then if you are in NZ :). Have you tried sitting them out somewhere the UV is going to get really intense? The parcel shelf or dashboard of a car which is sitting out under the sun is usually pretty good for this.
That'll get it very hot but unless the car is really ancient the glass is UV treated, and even plain glass blocks UV rays shorter than 350 nm. For restoring ABS plastic the desired wavelength is 300-350 nm in conjunction with a peroxide formula (a more scientific version of the Transformers method of putting the toy in a tupperware full of peroxide and leaving it in the sun).
No don't worry it still works :) I have seen amazing success with this over the years. The glass blocks short wave UV but not long wave UV that's why many professional drivers or those using cars extensively are advised to still wear sunscreen and even have additional screening on windows. Plus as mentioned below ponies are not made from ABS plastic so they cope differently.
The theory you mention of hydrogen peroxide in the sun has always confused me. If you leave an HP solution open to the air or exposed to air and sun it will simply become water...and it can do so within a very short period of time. So you may as well simply soak the pony in water. In addition ponies are not made from ABS plastics - although pony playsets are. I have certainly seen the practice of H202 on harder based plastics over the years in an attempt to remove yellowing and bromide staining but I honestly have seen more success in pony collecting with people who simply expose a pony to sunlight though glass.
Yes, water is the final result. UV exposure speeds up the reaction with the peroxide and the surface of the plastic. I'm well aware ponies are PVC rather than ABS, but results on rubbery mouse buttons at the retr0bright site give me hope. I'm planning an inconspicuous test spot on my very yellow Paradise, and some more experiments with stains and marks on my baitiest ponies when I get a chance to mix up a batch of the brush-on formula.
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Good luck - you should check out some of the sun fading threads and tutorials and information people have built up over the last decade on the subject. Its fantastic to read all the different results and theories!
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I'm familiar with sun fading. If the retr0bright formula works similarly to how it works with ABS it could brighten age yellowed ponies in hours rather than weeks or months. I'm also curious to see what effect it would have on cancer spots and accessory dye transfer ("pink highlighter").
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Cant wait to see your results! Will be really interesting.
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Probably not gonna have time to mess with it till after the holidays, but yeah. Here's hoping!