The MLP Arena
TCB => Trader & Shipping Support => Topic started by: prettypony55 on September 30, 2012, 06:37:04 PM
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Ok, well basicly I sold this pony on ebay last week.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160887518820&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123
Tonight I come home from bowling to this message from the winner on ebay.
Dear streaks1,
Hello,I seemed to bite off more than I could chew money wise. Unfortunately I am unable to purchase this item anymore. I must ask if we can cancel this transaction. I sincerely apologize for wasting your time- proudpommom
I am very unhappy. So unhappy I wish I could use stronger words here. So I am looking for your guys who are not invested in this mess as I am to offer me some guidance. I am looking at it like this, they bought for this pony. I do not want to waste any more time with it, most importantly loose my money!! I sold this pony to earn money, not to dick around. I have njot replied to the "winner" since I am so angry and do not wnat to say somthing that I will later regret.
If anyone can take the time to help me I appreciate it. If the "winner" is a member here, to bad. I am bringing this to everyones attention asking for help. Thanks again for all your help!!
Sarah
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you can ignore her message and file a npb in 4 days or you can cancel. Not much else you can do, since you can't force them to pay.
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Maybe relist it quickly with a buy it now price and require immediate payment? That way you can get some money quickly without all the hassle of a non-paying bidder.
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How frustrating! I would be annoyed too :mad: She even made more than one bid to try and win by the looks of it :huh: its true that you cant force her to pay up, but you could not respond and open a non-paying bidder case if you dont want to cancel the transaction, or you could cancel - and and then offer a second chance to the next highest bidder.
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Thank you everyone for all you advice. I ahve a few questions, what actions can I take that will get me any and all of my fees back? I know I cant force her to pay, but I had to pay to list it, and whatever other fee has taken. I could care less which action I must take, Wheter it be cancel the sale, or open a npb aaginst her. Also, of corse I cant leave her bad feedback, but will she be able to if I cancel the sale or open a npb against her?
I do not wnat to sell to the next highest bidder, which would bring the price down to 28$ which I will not sell it for. I would like to have her pay, or just relist the pony with a new auction. I just dont wnat to have to pay fees because she is irresponsible.
Again, thank so much!
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Open a npb case against her, it will take a couple days but you will get your fees back. Neither of you will be allowed to leave neg feedback. Then you can relist for the price you want.
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I know how annoyed you must feel. It's hard to think of what to say when you are actually in the mist of it.
But I do think you should reply. Say:
"I'm sorry but you outbid another paying buyer. Also by you bidding you may nave discouraged other paying buyers to bid more since the price had already gotten higher. I cannot simply cancel the transaction as I don't think that's fair. If you don't pay, I will be forced to open up a NPB claim."
I'm with you by the way. I don't like these people to get away with this crap.
EDIT TO SAY: OH MY GOD EVERYONE CANCEL THIS BIDDER. She has 33 bid retractions!!! She is obviously some sort of crazy person that bids willy nilly, retracts bids or just doesn't pay. Here is the link to the page where it says bid retractions:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=proudpommom&ftab=FeedbackAsBuyer
Jeez, this is the highest I've ever seen. Why is this person still allowed on Ebay?
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Can you not do a 'cancel this transaction' ? She gets a message asking her to agree to cancel, then she confirms it, then you get an email saying the transaction is cancelled and you get your final value fees back.
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EDIT TO SAY: OH MY GOD EVERYONE CANCEL THIS BIDDER. She has 33 bid retractions!!! She is obviously some sort of crazy person that bids willy nilly, retracts bids or just doesn't pay. Here is the link to the page where it says bid retractions:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=proudpommom&ftab=FeedbackAsBuyer
Jeez, this is the highest I've ever seen. Why is this person still allowed on Ebay?
I had never known where you could find this info, so thanks for pointing it out! I'll have to keep an eye open for bid retractions in the future.
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33 Bid Retractions???? :faint:
I think she has more than money issues. :huh:
I would probably go ahead and send her the cancel transaction request. It will allow you to get your fee's back quicker. If you open a NPB it will take an additional 4 days for you to be able to close the case. But the choice is yours, as this girl has oviously abused the bid retractions policy. And her actions should be recorded.
Sorry you had to go through this though it's more than frustrating.
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If you send a cancel transaction request, does it still punish her by puting a mark against her in Ebays files, so to speak? I know that if you wait 4 days and open a NPB, then that DOES give her a black mark. People who have auction settings set to ban people with one or more NPB in the past few months wouldn't have to deal with her.
If it were me, I would file a NPB, because that actually can get her in trouble. Just canceling it lets her off scott free.
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If you send a cancel transaction request, does it still punish her by puting a mark against her in Ebays files, so to speak? I know that if you wait 4 days and open a NPB, then that DOES give her a black mark. People who have auction settings set to ban people with one or more NPB in the past few months wouldn't have to deal with her.
If it were me, I would file a NPB, because that actually can get her in trouble. Just canceling it lets her off scott free.
I agree with this. Ebay is much more lax about retracted bids and cancellations - which is obvious by the fact that this buyer has so many retractions and is still running around on ebay. She obviously thinks it's fine to just back out of bids, so she needs to be sent a different message. Agreement to a cancellation (in this case) is basically saying "oh yeah that's totally fine that you entered into a contract to purchase my item and don't intend to follow through with it, carry on doing that!" File the NPB
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33 Bid Retractions???? :faint:
I think she has more than money issues. :huh:
Aint that the truth! :blink: I think personally I would wait it out and open an NPB case on her then. Yes you'll have to wait a bit longer to get your fees back, but unless you need to relist that item super fast, I dont think that I would want her to get away with this so easily (which she is obviously used to doing :mad: )
Hmm.. maybe its cos its the time of day when my brain is winding down, but if the second highest bidder only bid $28 , why is the winner supposed to be paying $45? :what: why the price gap? doesnt she just pay the next bid up, and $45 was her highest bid, not the next bid? *has a confused* :drunk: maybe I'm having a *facepalm* moment :blush:
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Thanks for letting us know about this disturbing behavior - 33 bid retractions!
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This is just guessing, but if two people bid against each other for say ten rounds and the winner backs out, then could it maybe award it to the next bidder at whatever bid they had before the other person starte bidding?
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Hi guys -- Thank you so much for all your insight! I was so mad last night, I couldnt think straight. I did not know whaere to look for her bid retraction history. In light of her having 33 bid retractions, I will not cancel this sale. I will definatly open a npb against her if she doesnt pay. I dont need the money afst or anything like that, I just want what I am due. I am not desperate for the fees , but I do wnat them back. I agree with others who have said that if I just cancel the sake in some eays there is no message sent to her. 33 bid retractions is not oops, I over spent. That is abusing ther system. I will send her a message like RPB mentioned, but I will also add that I noticed she has the bid retarctions. I am also going to contact ebay and inform them of this bidders poor bidding history. I will keep everyone updated on this thread, and I strongly reccomend blockibg this person.
Ringets - To hopefuly answear your question. There were five bidders, including the winner who bid twice.
bidder 1 - bid 15$
bidder 2 - bid 25$
bidder 3- bid 28$ ----
bidder 4 the winner - 45$
bidder 5, also the bidder bidding again to win this pony bidded a higher amount.
So, if I cancel her bids, the pony will go to bidder 3 for 28$
EDIT!! OH!! She has been bidding on all kinds of items that have ended in the same week as my pony auction. She has bid and paid for all of those!!! OMG... I am so disgusted
Also - of her 45 feedback's, she had gotten 40 of them this month. So this ebayer has been very busy in the last 30 days.
I have looked a little more at this. Her last bid (2nd bid) was at Sep-28-12 11:50:11 PDT.
The message she sent to me on ebay asking to cancel the sale was at Sent Date: Sep-29-12 17:07:28 PDT
So there wasnt a long time between bidding twice and asking to cancel.
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This is wild. That bidder is out of control! I'm so glad you're going to do a NPB. This person needs to learn a lesson.
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I just sent sent her this message. In my auctions I give five days to pay, so she still has until the 3rd of September. If she doesnt pay, I will open a NPB. BUt I need to give her a chance to pay,as were still in the time limit. Here is what I sadi to her.
Hello - Thank you for your email. I'm sorry but you outbid another paying buyer. Also by you bidding you may have discouraged other paying buyers to bid more since the price had already gotten higher. I cannot simply cancel the transaction as I don't think that's fair. If you don't pay, I will be forced to open up a NPB claim. I saw that you have had 33 bid retractions within the last 12 months which confuses me. You had won, and paid for many other auctions this month. By you bidding on an auction you are committing to a contract. I cannot break this contract, and hope you understand why. I will await your payment by September 3rd at 1 am. Thank you so much for your time and attention.
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I think your email looks good. I only suggested accepting the cancel transaction because it seemed to me that you were seeking to get your fees back as soon as possible. Which in accepting the cancel transaction you would.
I do hope ebay will do something because they are notorious for not following through on their three strike rule your out. And considering she has 33 bid retractions I am sure she has quite a few NPB cases under her belt to go along with those. I do think it's a good idea for you to phone ebay. I have found over the years that you get better results rather than just opening a case. They will go through it more throughly and actually check out this gal's bidding history. I think it just falls through the cracks when you open a case.
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This is just guessing, but if two people bid against each other for say ten rounds and the winner backs out, then could it maybe award it to the next bidder at whatever bid they had before the other person starte bidding?
That's not a bad guess. That could be what she's doing.
I wouldn't cancel. She gets no punishment from a cancellation and she will still be allowed to leave feedback. If you do a NPB, she will not be allowed to leave feedback and a mark will be recorded.
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bidder 1 - bid 15$
bidder 2 - bid 25$
bidder 3- bid 28$ ----
bidder 4 the winner - 45$
bidder 5, also the bidder bidding again to win this pony bidded a higher amount.
I still don't understand why the winner won at $45...?
Even with this bidding history she should have won at $29, shouldn't she? At least that is how ebay used to be. So have they changed it? Scary! Remind me never to raise my bid towards the end.. :huh:
Anyway, I'm sorry this person found your auctions. I can't believe she bid on lots of other stuff and paid for all that but not for your baby princess sparkle. :mad:
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I went back and looked just to be on the safe side, she dd win at 45$ which happened to be my reserve for this pony. I dont really know the ins and out of ebay to be honest, just the basic stuff. proudpompom, the winner joined ebay august 2012. The bidder before her joined ebay May 2001. That bidder was unactive since February of 2012. They bought somthing in August, another item this month, plus bid on my pony. So who knows whats going on.. I dont. I will try to get a call into ebay's customer service tomorrow. I have been super busy lately. I still have not recieved payment as of yet.
Altough she just got a new positive feedback from a purchase on August 25th. So yea... not to happy.
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bidder 1 - bid 15$
bidder 2 - bid 25$
bidder 3- bid 28$ ----
bidder 4 the winner - 45$
bidder 5, also the bidder bidding again to win this pony bidded a higher amount.
I still don't understand why the winner won at $45...?
Even with this bidding history she should have won at $29, shouldn't she? At least that is how ebay used to be. So have they changed it? Scary! Remind me never to raise my bid towards the end.. :huh:
Anyway, I'm sorry this person found your auctions. I can't believe she bid on lots of other stuff and paid for all that but not for your baby princess sparkle. :mad:
Basically, the next highest bidder bid $28 originally but set his/her cap at probably $44. The winner bid enough to get over the previous bidder's top limit, spiking the price to $45. If the winner retracts her winning bid, ebay removes ALL of her bids, and automatically puts the price back to whatever the previous bidder would have won her at if the winner had never bid at all, so $28, since no one else bid higher than the $28. Sometimes you can see the price go up gradually when it spikes, other times the person just chooses the option to outbid the current high bidder, which is what looks like happened. The previous winning bidder had bid $28 but had also set his/her max at $44, so ebay just skips the stuff inbetween and sets the winning bid at $45.
Sucks that this happened, I'm shocked at the 33 bid retractions o.o That name looks familiar to me too...
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I went back and looked just to be on the safe side, she dd win at 45$ which happened to be my reserve for this pony.
There's why the bids jumped from $28 to $45, the reserve. When you have a reserve auction, if somebody bids the reserve, their bid is automatically placed at the reserve amount, not at the next increment above the previous bidder. This is how eBay ensures items with reserves sell. The bidder was obviously willing to pay the $45 and would be upset if nobody else bid up their bid to the reserve amount and didn't get it.
Sounds like you've got a crazy one here. Good luck!
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The reserve was set at $45 - yes that answers the question , thanks :)
I'm glad you arent going to let her get away with this and I think your message looked good :bigups: I would also go along with Ponyladys advice and call ebay about the situation as well as opening a case if the buyer doesnt pay up
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Yes if there was a reserve at 45 that explains it all :) thanks
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This whole thing got me thinking. Since you had a reserve on it, did she just want to see what the reserve bid was? I am throwing that out there because when you phone ebay or report her you can make mention that is what you think happened. And they will definitely do something about it.
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Ugh. What a poopie situation! This is just not ok, and I would be furious mad too. EBay needs to start banning some of these time wasters. 33 bid retractions and she still has the ability to bid!? I think I might have missed the eBay name, can you post it so we can add her to our block lists please?
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proudpommom
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Thanks Ponylady!
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The sellers get penalized left, right, and center. I feel like they don't have adequate protection in most transactions (and this is coming from a buyer!). This is one case where you have some recourse. I'd advise taking it.
30+ retractions? Pfft. :huh:
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I havent called yet ladies, I also havent recieved payment yet either. But guess what!!! Since last night when I went to bed and to now, this ebayer has now made her feedback private. So my guess is that they are a memeber here and reading this thread. I think they made there feedback private becasue they know we have all been looking at it, trying to figure things out. So to proudpommom, please talk to me. I am not a nasty person. I am not trying to hurt your feelings or bash you. I just wnat to know what is going on. I take my sales here and on ebay very seriously. I do not want my repuatation tarnish or to waste my time and money.
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That could be true, but the fact that you mentioned all of her/his bid retractions in your letter to her...it may have humiliated/exposed her to the point where she felt that the best thing to do was shut down her visibility. Perhaps she doesn't want other sellers to notice her activities on ebay. Sadly, she can still purchase and bid with private feedback. It may have nothing to do with the fact that she is a member here, but that is a very logical possibility. Sometimes I put my account on private when I am buying gifts and don't want my relatives trying to figure out what I bought them LOL...that has nothing to do with this though for sure.
For sure it seems the best thing really is that this person deal with their issue of constantly bidding and retracting. That behavior can be a real problem for all selling communities. Responsible bidding means you only bid for what you can pay for. Its a personal choice to over do it and its an easy thing to fix.
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I didn't know you could hide your feedback... doesn't that negate the purpose of feedback?? Ebay, what the heck is wrong with you.
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So, big surprise she didnt pay. So I just opened a MPB claim against her. I am going to try to call ebay tomorrow. I have just been so busy with school I havent taken the time. I will definatly keep eveyone updated. If you havent blocked this person, i would do so now, so you huys dont have to deal with her.
Sarah
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There is something seriously wrong with this person and yes, I believe that she is reading everything everyone is writing here.
I've blocked her on all my ids. I bet if you looked hard enough, you would find a connection with another id that she bids against. She bids up REALLY high so no one else will dare outbid her. Then she refuses to pay and you give a second chance offer to the lower bidder.
Or, she bids then retracts her bid near the end of the auction. This will shoot the price down to the lower bid so that the other id gets it MUCH lower.
I bet she would be the owner of both ids that she bids with. She probably plays hopscotch with the two ids alternating them as the winners so that she gets adequate feedback. It may be wise to check the ids on the other bidders. See if they are in the same state, have any bid retractions or anything at all that is similar.
If she isn't doing that scam then she is just one of those horrible buyers that bids and does not give a hoot if she ever pays.
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I will go back and look at the other bidders, but I know the last bidder before her, was not in the same state at all as her. I dont know what she is doing, but its ridiculous!!!
Edit - The other 3 bidders all have very different zip codes. The second bidder, I have had other dealings with and am alomost positive its not them. So would leave bidder 1 and 3. The 1st bifdder has almost 2000 feedbacks and is from a different state, and has been a ebayer since 2002.
The 3rd bidder had 170 feedbacks, and has been on ebya since 2001. I really dont think they are related in any way. They could be, but I dont see it. I think it is just the winner who is the problem on her own. I dont see any connection to any of them, unless they have it hidden really well.
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Rockin thats just another form of shilling and she should be reported if she is in fact doing that. In fact I would mention this to ebay when calling to investigate this for certain as if this is the case she is manipulating auctions. Its not just an ebay rule, its illegal from what I understand.
Honestly you probably could set up an account with another address other than your own if its say your sister or a relative that lives there.
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well i am on the phone with ebay. They told me that I have to wait 4 days for the buyer to address the NPB case, and if she doesnt pay ebay will refund me all fees. I mentioned to them about the buyer, and all her bid retractions. She joined ebay in August of this year, so she has 33 bid retractions in 2 months!! They also told me once she has 2 NPB strikes against her she will have buyer restrictions placed on her ebay account. They are looking into her account right now, so I am on hold.
Ok, so the guy I talked to made a report about her bid retractions that someone on ebays side will look into. He also told me that I am her second NPC case/strike against her. So that means she already has one that was before me. So if she doesnt pay for my pony, she will then have the restrictions placed on her account immediatly.
So, all in all I am glad I called. It was very informative and I was able to make a report. I am not trying to be mean or nasty.. but this ebayer is abusing the system and watsing peoples time and money.
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I think it's safe to assume they are a member here:(. I could have sworn I'd heard her eBay name before, I just can't remember where.
I can understand one bid retraction, but 33 of them?! I mean really, get a grip please. eBay needs to do more to protect sellers! I get that there are scammers out there, but once someone has established themselves as a solid seller, they should have more clout and rights.
If you're reading this Proudpom, hear this: These are good sellers that you're hurting, and that is very unfair. Pay Prettypony and stay off eBay.
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big hugs to you, how stressful huh. iv been in the same boat trying to sell things cos i needed it for bills etc and then get that. i hate it, they have decided they over bid/over spent, bidding war. :(
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I'm glad to hear ebay were helpful when you called them :hug: Hopefully they will do something about this buyers' behaviour now.
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It's so great to see she is finally getting the negative attention her actions deserve. What a hassle for you! But one of those "something needs to be done, and I guess I'm the one who has to do it" situations. I can't believe 30 or so other people let her retract bids without anyone filing a complaint! >.<
Hopefully she wises up and leaves ebay to get her entertainment somewhere else.
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I don't see where you can see bid retractions?
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There is a little box on the upper right corner of her feedback page.
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And I just came home to this tirade. Apparently I am rude, dramatic, and money hungry. Since she threathened to leave me "appropriate" feedback, when and if she does will ebay remove it? I guess I will be calling ebay tomrrow, again.
Dear streaks1,
I should be able to pay on October 6th. All I asked was simply to cancel the transaction. You didnt have to be dramatic or rude. Yes I have had a lot of bid retractions. As I came into some money and some something bad happened to my account. I left great feedback for all of those individuals that worked with me. I don't have any NPB strikes on my account actually so you were informed wrong. One of my friends is commenting on your post:) so you talk about me being a bad buyer. Look who you posting with first! if I decide to send you payment or really if I can on Saturday I will leave you appropriate feedback for all the drama you created. You could of simply cancelled the transaction but no , your out for revenge. You must be hard up for money. Go post my reply. I'm not a bad buyer. I had some negative things happen to my finances recently. I have no problems proving that and showing that to eBay. Have a good day and god bless.
proudpommom
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Wow sounds like SHES the dramatic one...
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Yea, but thats ok. It shows her true colors. I am hopeful that if she leave me bad feedback ebay will remove it, as I feel I did nothing inappropriate or break a contract. I understand she just wants me to cancel the sale, but I am out money, and my time. I am not money hungry, I only paid 13$ for the pony, so I can re-sell it at a profit. I am not worried about the money. What irriates me as though she feels entitled for me to do what she wants me too. How about no. It is up to the other sellers to do with her as they please. Just because I didnt rush off to do as she demanded doesnt mean I am rude, or out for revenge. Thsi is ebay, I have more important things to worry about, like whether I should mow my lawn or not! :)
I really appreciate everyones honest opinions and thoughts. I am very proud to say that I am part of this wonderful community.
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when did you file the npb? Ebay will remove negs from npbs
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I filed on September 2nd. I am just worried that if she decides to pay before it closes and she will leave me back feedback. I was just wondering that if she does pay before the end, and does leave bad feedback if ebay would remove it since she already stated in email that she would leave bad feedback. I guess she wants to leave bad feedback because I was rude and dramatic. I was neither of thsoe things through my 1 email to her. My guess is that she wants to leave me bad feedback becasue of what was said here. I have nothing to hide, I do not think I was overly rude here nor was I dramatic at all. I stated the facts, and unfortunatly for her, she is in the wrong and acting accordingly. Thank you for you help everyone!
EDIT - Just for your enjoyment, maybe you will get a laugh like I did. Since ebays customer support is still open I have called them. I really just want this to be over with. I hope everyone reading will read all the facts for themselves and make your own descisions if you want to sell or buy from this ebayer. I dont know why she cares, or why it even matters how much I paid for it originally. Perhaps she is just mad and taking anything she can and run with it.
Dear streaks1,
I've just been informed you bought this pony for 13 dollars. I will be letting eBay know your causing outside eBay harassment! I'm sure that will not make you look good. Since you spent 13 on the pony you better hope I don't find any unmarked flaws on the pony as I will be filing a claim if she doesnt show up perfect with the nose defects of course.And no eBay won't remove my feedback as I will not leave nasty inappropriate comments. They won't remove honest feedback. You do have a lot of time on your hands. Unlike you, I have real life situations and career to deal with. That's way I didn't get back to you right away. But negative you thinks the worst. By canceling a transaction you get your fees back. So I don't know who you think your fooling. You clearly are a negative person again out for revenge. Once I show eBay my bank statements I'm sure they will take off the NPB. And if not its only one npb strike. So no restrictions. I know your out for revenge but karma will come your way.-
proudpommom
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This has been a rather enlightening thread to watch. Now, I'm an eBay-er from waaaaaay back, 1998 to be exact. When I joined you DID NOT back out of bids, it was stressed that there was a binding contract between you and the seller to see the transaction through. When my mom joined up recently she asked me about changing her mind on a bid for an item that she made. My answer to my sweet little lady of a mother who's on a fixed income? "Too bad, Mom, you placed the bid, you've agreed to buy it if you win the auction." Granted I didn't know about bid cancellations but I wouldn't have encouraged that anyway, I don't feel it's right just because you change your mind. This is not a retail store.
I understand people run into financial issues but, (a) it shouldn't happen 33 times previously and then be a big surprise that it happened again (unless it was all at once, but then, why were some item transactions completed and others not?), and (b) try to work with the seller and see if you can get an extension on the payment time or at least be very open and transparent about the issues at hand and not make the seller guess at motivation. It's about being responsible and knowing your limits. It's about respecting the purpose of the website and those who use it. And it's not about how much an item was purchased by the seller, it's about how much it's actually worth and how much you, as a bidder, agree to pay for it. If a person chooses not to pay for an auction they need to be prepared for the seller filing an NPB. You can ask for a cancellation but that doesn't mean you get it. Granted this is all my personal opinion, but I feel that much of it will ring true for others.
Prettypony55, I'm glad that you are standing up to hold people accountable for their actions, but more importantly, your own rights, even if being harassed because of it. We are all here to give you support in this, since this is the purpose of this message board. :hug:
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Well said, Ember. The bottom line is that placing a bid is a contract - you agree to buy the item you bid on. If you don't pay, you get penalized for it, just as you would for any breach of contract.
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Ember - Thank you for your kind words, I appreciate it. I ahve been on ebay for a long time myself since 1998. wow... that makes me feel even older. LOL.. I understand things happen, I really do. I am human too and make mistakes or things happen. I would have been willing to work with this ebayer if they had given me a chance. They just wanted to cancel. Not offer to pay a few days past my 5 day pay limit. But she didnt even offer, just insisted that I cancel her sale. I might have if she didnt have a pattern of so many bid retractions, which I mentioned in my only email to her. She never tried to explain or talk to me civily. All I got was harrassment, abuse, threats, and excuses. Its all about being respectful and polite. I have worked very hard to have great feedback here, ebay as well as with other ventures. I pride myself on haveing a great reputation that I proudly stand beside. Coming after me aggressivly through emails wont solve anything, or gain anyone anything.
I am not vengful or even trying to "teach" her a lesson. I did file a npb claim, as I am allowed to by ebay. I was also instructed via a ebay representative to file one as well. She knows everything I am saying here because of a friend is relaying it to her, which is fine with me. I have nothing to hide. I also was honest and told the ebay representative that I made this post here and told him he could read it, and he told me he only cares about what is said and done through ebay and paypal. So, nothing I or anyone else say here can be used against any of us.
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Exactly, Prettypony, exactly.
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Just think.. 32 of those 33 other people decided NOT to file a NPB against her. Imagine if everyone had taken the time and hassle to do so. She wouldn't have been bidding today. THANK YOU for taking the time to file the NPB against her.
Please do not let her intimidate you. Everything she has been saying to you can be used against her in the event that she does decide to leave you a negative, or even low stars. Here is what I think she will do and why she seems so smug about her feedback. She's likely planning to leave you positive feedback with all low stars. Her actual words will be bland and nothing to to shout about.
But even if she slams your DSR like that, the emails you have from her ought to be enough to get ebay to ding her for feedback extortion. They can just remove her feedback from your record completely. You should never EVER mention feedback in correspondence about an auction because it can be seen as feedback extortion. That was her mistake.
So keep strong and carry on! You're helping to make eBay a safer place for us all!
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God what the heck is this woman's malfunction????
She has to have some sort of mental problem. "This pony better be perfect blah blah blah" PSH.
Oh I'm sorry your HIGHNESS and all mighty tallest. I'll be sure to deliver your pretty pony in perfect pony condition. May you have mercy on me if it is in otherwise stated condition!!
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i hope this gets sorted for you,
as an ebayer my self if i bid, then i comitmy self to paying up if i win,
i also have a bad habit of bidding on things i dont realy want all that badly, just to "see what the high bid is"
but ive never retrated a bid, ive always followed thru with it even if it was a silly mistake on my behalf, ive commited to the buy and so i live with the out come.
im not saying this person donsent have ligitimate issues,
but , they shoulkd know that if there finanaces are up in the air, and for the sounds of it they often are with that many retrated bids. then prehaps they should think twice about placing a bid in the first place.
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To Maniah - My feedback is all set and protected. I talked to two different people tonight from ebay. She can leave me any feedback she wants, however any negative, or neutral feedback will be removed, as well as low star ratings. A supervisor looked at the 2 emails from her and documented it in both of our files or records. I cant remember what exactly he called it. He said this one sentence she said was what made it violate ebays policies and was considered feedback exrotion. So basicly she put the nail in her own coffin by saying that. So everything she says about my feedback is all null and void. She can threaten, harass do whatever, in the end its on her. She has 2 npb caes's, and 2 reports made by me, the issue with feedback extortion as well as harrassment through ebays email systems. She has done herself no favors by acting like this.
"if I decide to send you payment or really if I can on Saturday I will leave you appropriate feedback for all the drama you created" This is what she said to me that violated ebays policies.
Also, since she threatend me with opening a claim through ebays email system, if in fact she pays, then tries to open a claim she will not win. I asked what will happen if she pays, gets the pony and then does somthing to the pony by destroying it that she will not win her case because of the threat. It showed that she already wnats to open a case without any reason.
"But negative you thinks the worst". So, whatever this means I dont know. I do wnat to say though that this is being ridiculous that this has gotten to be like this. We are two grown woman, we should be able to talk like civilized adults. I harbor no ill feelings towards you in any way. I am sorry things have happened this way, and hope you can get your finance's under better control. I would think you value your reputation as well as your bussiness practices. I sincerly hope you are able to work everything out for yourself.
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Oh dear, I'm so sorry you've had to go through all of this hassle. I can only offer you a hug :hug: since you've already had lots of great advice & ebay seem to be being really quite helpful on this one.
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Maybe I missed it but is she going on the bad trader list? If someone already said she was going to go on there sorry I might have skimmed it over.
If she isn't on there yet I vote for an addition of her. She is a horrible buyer and if anyone deserves to be on there it's her!
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I'm glad ebay is behind you, prettypony. They don't always do everything right, but in this case I'm glad they are.
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Maybe I missed it but is she going on the bad trader list? If someone already said she was going to go on there sorry I might have skimmed it over.
If she isn't on there yet I vote for an addition of her. She is a horrible buyer and if anyone deserves to be on there it's her!
I agree. I've been following this off and on for the past few days and the behavior of this person is just appalling. This is the nightmare time waster that all sellers dread, I would never want to unknowingly enter a transaction with someone like this.
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Maybe I missed it but is she going on the bad trader list? If someone already said she was going to go on there sorry I might have skimmed it over.
If she isn't on there yet I vote for an addition of her. She is a horrible buyer and if anyone deserves to be on there it's her!
Ohhhhh she's on the Bad Trader List now. She has been, since prettypony55 posted about her. I don't take that behavior lightly - either you have money to shop on Ebay or you don't. If you don't, you shouldn't be logged in. ;)
I am SO GLAD to hear that Ebay is working with you, prettypony55! :D Keep us updated in case I have to add her ID to more categories - added her to the feedback extortion and harassment categories today.
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You know I don't buy this whole "friend" idea either. I think she is reading this thread herself and is probably a member here. I doubt very seriously that she has a so called friend reporting back to her. That sounds like something I would hear out of the kids, "mom....a friend of mine...." when you know its all abut them lol. Sometimes people fight when there is no way to fight, they are just trying..the kicking and screaming is an attempt to make them look like the real victim. Maturity in life is when you own up to what you do thats wrong and say, "yea, I have an issue. I have made a mistake." Then you just fix it. Maybe it will take a while, but its never helpful to handle a situation this way. I totally agree that ebay will remove those comments, but you may have to call them to remind them as they have many issues like this to deal with all day long.
I admire your attitude. You are keeping your wits. Hang in there.
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RPB - I ahve pm'ed you back. Thank you!
So far ebay seems to be dealing with this very professioanly. I gues I have had good luck. I dont know is she has a "friend" here or not, or if shes a member. I know the last email she sent me was literally like two minuetes after I posted here. So either her freind is stalking this thread, or she is. Either way, it doesnt matter to me. If she is a memebr here I wish who she was so I never enter a transactionw ith her. But, I am sure we neber will unless she admits it.
Thank you for all the kind words and all the emotinal backing you guys have offered, its been very heart warming to know you all care enough to take the time out of your busy lives to help me. I am not going to stoop to her low level and attack her or anyone else. I am almost 30 years old, and this is not the school yard. I am to old, and busy to get into a verbal pissing match with anyone, especially someone who is so immature. I was taught much better manners than to act like that. Its the internet, its not like she can reach through the computer to get me. Im sure she is just angry because she didnt get her way with me. She must feel like she is entitled to get whatever she wants out of life. Like I said before all she had to do was ask for a few additional days to pay, and I would have worked it out with her. I am not a mean person or heartless, but I am no dumby either. It wanst hard to see what she really wnated, which was this to go away with her doing no work or being forced to deal with it. Having at least 33 bid retractions in the two months shes been on ebay showed a terribnle pattern she has. You cannot over extend yourself financially. I am sorry but that is not my faut, nor my problem. Ebay is a huge multi-million dollar company. They don have time for all the pettyness and bs. They dont care how, when , who and why you dont have any money after you bid. They jsut wnat you to pay. Plus, she still hasnt decided whether she will pay me or not yet. Thats ok, I am not sitting her deperatly waiitng for your money. She obviously doesnt acre if she has a npb strike against her, she will have no bidding restrictions. So buyers and sellers beware, she has no problem doing this type of thing over and over so we will probally see this type of bidding and non payment from her again. It doesnt mater to her, since there are no real consequences for her actions.
LBS - Thank you for adding her to your bad traders list. I would hate for anyone else be bullied, or tried to take advantage of by her. I knwo there are some younger members here, and we need to watch out for them. Obviously no other seller has refused her demands before. She seems like she will aggressivly lash out to anyone who doesnt do what she wants.
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Maybe I missed it but is she going on the bad trader list? If someone already said she was going to go on there sorry I might have skimmed it over.
If she isn't on there yet I vote for an addition of her. She is a horrible buyer and if anyone deserves to be on there it's her!
Ohhhhh she's on the Bad Trader List now. She has been, since prettypony55 posted about her. I don't take that behavior lightly - either you have money to shop on Ebay or you don't. If you don't, you shouldn't be logged in. ;)
Awesome :-)
Oh I missed that she said it was a "friend". I'm sorry but that is just low. Like anyone has a friend that knows your Ebay id and regularly scours the internet for it. It's so weird how she tries to divert any kind of behavior onto something or someone else.
It must be some kind of bizarre personality type. I just hope she learns that once you graduate high school those weird kind of excuses of "my friend did it" or "it's so tragic and not my fault!" don't work anymore.
Argh, Ebay has no idea how much money people like us AND them lose to people like this. They outbid REAL buyers and really are a drain. It would be in their best interest to buckle down and get rid of them.
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Dear streaks1,
I've just been informed you bought this pony for 13 dollars.
I agree with tulagirl. It seems as if she is a member here or someone on the Arena is reporting to her everything that is posted in this thread.
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Well she can't be hurting too bad for money. She's been bidding on items as recent as October 4th. Today is October 6th.
one of the auctions she's won as of Oct 4th
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=230857637744 (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=230857637744)
and here is her bidding/purchase history:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=proudpommom&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sort=3&_rdc=1 (http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=proudpommom&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sort=3&_rdc=1)
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woah... this woman ust thinks she is above eveything doesnt she?? I cant wait to get rid of her to be honest. Thank you for finding all that information about her bidding Hawaiianrain. I didnt know you could see all that. So, yea she cant be that hard up for moneu since she is bidding and buying things still. She is just mad because she didnt get her way. Oh, well.
I just have to wait until 9:24 my time to see if she will pay or not. If she doesnt then I can close the case. Either way I dont care. I just hope everyone see's her for who she truly is and blocks her from bidding. Dealing with her is not worth the money in my opinion.
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Well if she is reading this thread or a supposed friend is reporting back to her, I hope she can see the errors in her ways concerning bidding. These people she is screwing with are normal people like her selling on ebay to make a little extra cash. They are not big companies. It takes time and money to sell on ebay, it's not an extra curricular activity that people do to do because they like it in most cases.
And quite frankly I am very happy to hear ebay is going to do something about it. Which I knew they would if you called. I honestly can't believe it went on 33 times before someone finally called her on her shenanigans though.
Keep us posted if she pays. Hopefully she doesn't and you can close the case and not have to deal with her again.
Post Merge: October 06, 2012, 03:16:07 AM
Well she can't be hurting too bad for money. She's been bidding on items as recent as October 4th. Today is October 6th.
one of the auctions she's won as of Oct 4th
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=230857637744 (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p2047675.l2565&rt=nc&item=230857637744)
Yikes, I believe rachelsyr is a member here.
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If she is a member here, I'm sure the mods will do some digging, and let the community what her Arena ID is, if that's possible. ;)
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3 more hours until she has the option to pay. It would be great if the mods will look inot this mess for us. This member effects all of us here on the arena, or on ebay. If the mods need any information that I have I will be more than willing to share it privatly with them. I will keep everyone updated on this matter.
Sarah
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If you would like to PM her personal information to Ringlets or I, we will look into it. :)
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I just stumbled upon this, and I am so sorry you have had to deal with it! I have been a member since , about 2000. It is reasons like these I have shied away from selling there.
I just don't understand how she just spends will-nilly with no concern. I am sorry, If you don't have the money DON'T bid, it's pretty simple. I also agree that you should not be able to hide your feedback from sellers, what is with that? That is the reason to keep it good!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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Wow, that lady is just messed up. Ebay tells you that when you buy something you're entering into a binding contract. It's great that ebay is siding with you since they so often unfairly side with buyers. I've blocked her from bidding on any of my auctions. Definetely don't want a headache from her! It's great you're doing this even though it's a hassle and she's so rude and threatening. She should be kicked off ebay for all the bid retractions IMO.
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Well good news for me, she didnt pay, so I was able to close the npb claim I had open. I will get all my fees back, which is great.. but most importantly she will FINALLY have a mark against her. I certainly hope that ebay will look at the reports I have made against her and do somthing about it. I have blocked her from bidding on any of my future auction, but I am sure she will stay away from them anyways. I wnat to thank everyone who has given me advice and support throughout this mess.
Hopefully ebay will take a hard look into her actions and her account. She deserves a spot in the bad trader list! I have also given a mod her all her personal information in case that it will help them in any way. Its bad enough having her run around on ebay. BUt we dont need that kind of member here. I dont know if she is a member or does have a friend here?? Whatever the case, I strongly urge eveyone to stay clear of her and any futures sales with her. The money just isnt worth dealing with her for. No one needs to be abused, threatened or verbally attcked.
Thank you all agian, I will update this thread if there is a need.
Sarah
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Thanks Prettypony for the info :) The gal you are dealing with is Sayuri, a banned member.
The sad thing is I didn't need to do any digging on who the culprit is. She has a track record.
www.mlparena.com/Forum...art=0.html (http://www.mlparena.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=228766/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html)
www.mlparena.com/Forum...23238.html (http://www.mlparena.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=123238.html)
www.mlparena.com/Forum...19413.html (http://www.mlparena.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=119413.html)
www.mlparena.com/Forum...18555.html (http://www.mlparena.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=118555.html)
I have updated our Trader Watch list to add her latest ID. And I have also added her name to your title thread. I am really sorry you had to go through this. I have blocked this gal many times, only for her to open a new ebay account and purchase from me. I finally called ebay about it. She used to sell under the ID ultraglamorous but I see that account is NARU now.
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Oh wow, that id looks familiar. She's a little baddie isn't she? Ugh, I'm sure she will continuously keep making Ebay ids and keep trying to come here as well.
Also, that explains why she didn't post in this thread even though she was reading every word. She can't reveal herself or her id is banned and can't log in. Those old threads are so hard to read. Her just trying to con people and full of lies. Sad sad sad.
I hope that with this thread people will know her, block her , report her and stop letting her get away with this. Her id not only needs to be banned on Ebay but they need to find a way to stop her from making another one.
Prettypony - You dodged a bullet. I almost want to contact Ebay and ask them why is it someone can continue to be on Ebay when they have 33 bid retractions.
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Also, that explains why she didn't post in this thread even though she was reading every word. She can't reveal herself or her id is banned and can't log in. Those old threads are so hard to read. Her just trying to con people and full of lies. Sad sad sad.
She is a banned member as I stated, so no she can no longer sign in ;)
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Is it possible to also contact ebay and point out all of her previous accounts that have been closed due to similar issues and scams? Ugh. What a nightmare!
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Oh wow I can't believe they never stop scamming. Why do they continue to act like this? Have they no morals and values? I mean I read through all of that and it was like 6 years ago. This is really sad.
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Ugh, that girl needs to be banned from ever using ebay.
I've been reading this all along, and I'm sorry prettypony55 that you have to go through this.
Out of curiosity, this thread is not hidden from non-members?
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You know what, I bet you that she checks this section regularly too. Because she knows what she is doing is wrong and comes here to see if anyone is complaining...
Edit to say: Ponylady - Oh right, I saw that you said she was banned. I was just thinking she might have tried to make more ids as she's obviously the type to try and surpass rules and bans, etc. Not saying she did though.
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Maybe it's time to ban her IPs on here. That way so won't be able to create a new account at all.
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Oy. That is all I got. And much thanks for Partypony for sticking up for the good guys. ;)
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eBay obviously needs to ban her IP. This is a vicious cycle she's created and it's not fair to legitimate sellers who get stuck dealing with her crap. Urgh.
I'm a buyer and I hate hate hate that sellers cannot leave buyers negative feedback. Also, I agree with NoD about the whole issue of being able to make your feedback private. When I went to look I was like, "Wait, what?" Seriously, eBay?! That completely defeats the purpose of feedback and people who use their site should file complaints about this and try to get it overturned. I guess they could put in place a system where sellers could ban anyone that has hidden feedback from bidding, but still, it shouldn't even be possible.
I am so sorry you had a run-in with this person prettypony, but I am glad you were able to do something about it. I hope eBay learns something from people like this and starts banning IPs, not just e-mail addresses.
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Oh my lord, I bought a beautiful pony from Sayuri last year under her ultraglamourous ebay id. Frankly, I had a terrific transaction with her. She sent me a message explaining her side of the story, and I totally gave her the benefit of the doubt. This is the link to the thread that detailed my dealings with her.
http://www.mlparena.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=284050.html
I am so upset to hear that there are the same person:( I really believed her, and I felt terrible about making accusations about her.
Prettypony, I'm so glad you're protected from bad feedback and that you get your fees back! Sayuri, I really believed your side of the story and felt sorry for you. If you're reading this (and I know you are), please know that you hurt people when you do these things.
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Thanks for linking this ID up with the multiple other IDs we have for this scammer. Seriously... anyone with 18 Ebay IDs is someone to be avoided at all costs. :(
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Wow.... I expected her to be a member here, but not Sayuri. I remeber all the problems people had with this person. I am happy now that I sent you here information Ponylady. Thank you for looking into for all of us. I appreciate it. It is disgusting the way this person acts and handles her business. I dodged a huge bullet with her!!! I will be calling ebay tomorrow sometime to let them know of all her past identies and problems. I feel like I am on a mission now. I will do everything in my power to get her to stop buying and selling on ebay. Does anyone know if she is a member of the Tradeing Post?? If she is I would like someone to tell one of their mods for me.
When I called ebay and told them about her 33 bid retractions they told me they would look into it, but I asked for a hard number of how many retractions you can have in what period of time before you get into trouble. Neither of the two men I talked to had a answear about that. Apparently there is no actual number of retractions you can have before somthing is done to your account. I dont really understand why not, but I guess thats just how they work it. Bing online for two months and haveing 33 retractions looks like she is abusing ebays system, I mentioned this to ebay and they agreed with me.
As far as her reading this, I knew she was or a close freidn was. But in my heart I thought she was just too afarid to post. Now we know she has been reading everything but cant post because shes a banned member!!!! I have to think that there is somthing worng as far as her personality goes for her to act this way. Most people do not threaten or abuser other peeople verbally as she has done with me, and so many other that we know of now. Now we know who she really is, and that these actions are very normal and common for her. Which to say the least is disappointing. I hope she never tried to come back here, she certainly has no friends, but she is a terrible example of how a MLParena member should conduct themselves. I know I will never willingly have any dealings with her in the future.
Michelle- I wouldnt feel bad, its not your fault you believed all her lies. She is very good at what she does. She is a carrer scammer, its what she knows and has perfected. You are very fortunate to get your pony and be unscathed. I am glad that I have tough skin, otherwise like many other on ebay I would have let it go. She tried all the usual tactics to try to threaten me, attack me, and bully me. I honestly wa sexpecting her threats to escalade into threats of coming to my house or somthing crazy like that. This person seems unstable to me. One time she can be nice and sweet the next abusive and scamming others. Sayuri has been around for years, as much as I dont like it I doubt she willstop her scamming ways.
Thank you everyone for all your help and support. I am really glad I brought this to the MLP arena in the first place!!!
Sarah
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Little narcissistic would be my first guess. Along with something else I can't put a finger on.
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So these are the ebay names I have for her. If there is some I missed will you please let me know. I want to be acurate when I call ebay.
Ultraglamorous NARU
kodamas_spirit NARU
neechee8 NARU
thesquishymonkey NARU
purrsuations
kolorfulklor
proudpommom
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purrsuations and kolorfulklor :)
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purrsuations and kolorfulklor :)
Those are two I didn't know about! So here is the list I have from my Traderlist ; all previous are obviously NARU:
sayuri
MLPsayuri
kodamas_spirit
lavishapple
Iluvbanannas
Mistyfoot
elegantcocoa
The Squishy Monkey
Neechee8
NikoKitty
OrcaOreos
kittygotmunchies
PonySponge
Melissa
ultraglamourous
motherlovepony
ProudPomMom
purrsuations
kolorfulklor
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purrsuations and kolorfulklor :)
Those are two I didn't know about! So here is the list I have from my Traderlist ; all previous are obviously NARU:
sayuri
MLPsayuri
kodamas_spirit
lavishapple
Iluvbanannas
Mistyfoot
elegantcocoa
The Squishy Monkey
Neechee8
NikoKitty
OrcaOreos
kittygotmunchies
PonySponge
Melissa
ultraglamourous
motherlovepony
ProudPomMom
purrsuations
kolorfulklor
Blimey! That's a LOT of usernames :ack: Give it up, lady!
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how does ebay even ALLOW that many Ids? I mean, really! They should have a way to flag IP addresses, if the arena has that ability!
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How can you view that stuff on someone in ebay? I looked at your link and cant see it?
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:whoa: Oh now I know who she is its sooo not a surprise that you were having issues with her prettypony ! she is bad news both as a buyer and seller, and she scammed people too. Unfortunately the dodgy ones like her never usually go away, they just invent a new Id and carry on with that until it gets found out/bad feedback/banned etc, then they start all over again. But they always get found out ;)
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Unfortunately the dodgy ones like her never usually go away,
This is actually something that I've learned in life. If you are an adult, stealing from people and scamming people it is very hard to randomly change and become honest. Many of these people are addicted to stealing or this is how they make money.
Even if they only make $100 a month, it's still tax-free and work-free money that they got from scamming people. It's hard for some of them to give that up so after they get banned they stop for a while and then start again.
Does anyone know if this person buys anything other than ponies?
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She usually only buys ponies and on occasion from my experience dealing with her Pretty Kitties and their accessories.
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how does ebay even ALLOW that many Ids? I mean, really! They should have a way to flag IP addresses, if the arena has that ability!
Unfortunately, an IP address is easy to reset. So even if hers was blocked, she could reset her IP manually, or install a computer program that scrambles it. :(
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how does ebay even ALLOW that many Ids? I mean, really! They should have a way to flag IP addresses, if the arena has that ability!
Unfortunately, an IP address is easy to reset. So even if hers was blocked, she could reset her IP manually, or install a computer program that scrambles it. :(
For Ebay, that's really no excuse. They have like a million and one ways to connect accounts and I can't believe they aren't buckling down for people like this.
Not only do they do it by IPs, but they also do it by: names, addresses, bank accounts, email addresses, types of items sold, computer cookies, etc.
I'm probably leaving some things out.
I very much doubt this lady is smart enough to try and surpass all those abilities to connect banned accounts to new accounts. I just think they aren't trying. Probably cause she's just screwing sellers, not buyers.
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How can you view that stuff on someone in ebay? I looked at your link and cant see it?
Their previous IDs? Those have been gathered over the many years from people in the pony community and verified by the mods in many cases. :( Ebay doesn't keep records like that!
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Before she made her feedback private I noticed she was buying clothes for a woman. I believe they were size extra small and small? I didnt really notice, but most of her feedback under proudpommom is for womans clothing.
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Just got done reading the multiple threads about this person, including the 14-page one, that were linked here by helpful Ponylady. This Sayuri woman needs serious mental help. I mean, literally. I have a degree in psychology, and she should be seeing a counselor. *shakes head*
Just goes to show we all need to stay on the ball for scammers. Obviously a 4-5 year break does not deter them. Thanks again to our awesome mods that keep all this information as reference!
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Oh wow, so sorry to hear you are going through this. I have had run-ins with this person multiple times over multiple user names. She has a sickness when it comes to ponies. She spends way more than she has, she gets competitive for ponies and I don't think she can control herself. She ends up spending way outside of her means and then tries to quickly sell ponies to recoup costs. Then she regrets selling a pony and quickly tries to find it again and buy it back. I have watched her do this for years and years at the expense of her reputation and other peoples' feelings. She needs help desparately and I wish ebay would shut her down permanently. She doesn't have access to pony sales on here so she gets people she knows to contact board members to try and buy ponies outside the arena. It is horrific. She is like a drug addict with ponies, no joke. It makes me feel sick to my stomach for her as she can't possibly be happy with herself. Everyone do this woman a favor and block her and don't buy from her.
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I have bought from her several times on ebay in the past as ultraglamorous and was shocked to learn later she was a scammer by a former name OO. Had even helped her obtain a members custom made item before knowing the story of her past. It's amazing how sneaky these people are to hide their past. Guess I dodged a bullet. I can't believe the mess she caused others.
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I also sold a pony and a few accessories to her at one point, when she was here on arena with one of those names. I had no troubles with her though, and saw her later selling the same things she bought from me on ebey.
I had no problems with her though, and she was friendly. A shame that some do still have problems with her though... =/
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Wow. I knew the proudpommom ID sounded familiar, and checked my ebaying buying. Sure enough, I bought a couple of things from her not too long ago without realizing who she was. Luckily, I had no issues.
But I think it might be helpful to note that she's the seller being talked about in this thread:
http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,308892.0.html
Just to clarify that thread since names aren't used right away: PoniesYeah sold a beautiful Marie Antoinette custom to someone, and shortly after, it was being sold on ebay by proudpommom (ebay #271063977378)
While technically and legally there is nothing wrong with reselling someone's custom for profit (although I have ethical issues with that), I'm wondering if a mod would be able to find out if PoniesYeah sold that custom to a current member here. If so, we might be able to link this scammer to a secret ID she might still be using on this board. I don't know if the original transaction took place here, but this scammer is obviously good about popping up a lot. I, for one, wouldn't mind knowing her ID even if it was sold on DA or some other forum.
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Thanks Ashlyn, I am going to look into it right away. I was actually in the middle of PMing you when I saw this :lol:
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So glad that our mods take such good care of us! *pony hugs*
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Thanks for pointing that out Ashlyn :hug: It wouldnt surprise me if she tried to sneak back in yet again, but these people always get caught out. I'm sure PoniesYeah can enlighten us ;)
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Wow.... I honestly dont know what to say... I am very, very glad that I made this post here. I never in a million years would have thought this girl would have caused all this drama and scamming. She is obviously someone to watcha nd keep track of. She has been getting more positive feedbacks on ebay since her non-dealings with me. If anyone needs any information that I may have from ebay I will gladly give it to a mod through a pm. I will try to do anything I can to help the mods keep everyone safe and scam free!!!!
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Wow.... I honestly dont know what to say... I am very, very glad that I made this post here. I never in a million years would have thought this girl would have caused all this drama and scamming. She is obviously someone to watcha nd keep track of. She has been getting more positive feedbacks on ebay since her non-dealings with me. If anyone needs any information that I may have from ebay I will gladly give it to a mod through a pm. I will try to do anything I can to help the mods keep everyone safe and scam free!!!!
Wow.... I honestly dont know what to say... I am very, very glad that I made this post here. I never in a million years would have thought this girl would have caused all this drama and scamming. She is obviously someone to watcha nd keep track of. She has been getting more positive feedbacks on ebay since her non-dealings with me. If anyone needs any information that I may have from ebay I will gladly give it to a mod through a pm. I will try to do anything I can to help the mods keep everyone safe and scam free!!!!
That's why I always hope people speak up sooner rather than later about shady buyers or sellers. As long as everyone is open about it, these types of people won't get away with it for long.
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*Update*
After speaking with PoniesYeah the custom in question was commissioned through Etsy under the ID kodamas. PoniesYeah also confirmed her real name with me and also stated that the ID in question is no longer active.
Doesn't surprise me because as we know she is an ID jumper, so I am sure she has already set up a new account with Etsy.
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*Update*
After speaking with PoniesYeah the custom in question was commissioned through Etsy under the ID kodamas. PoniesYeah also confirmed her real name with me and also stated that the ID in question is no longer active.
Doesn't surprise me because as we know she is an ID jumper, so I am sure she has already set up a new account with Etsy.
Thanks ponylady!
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Thank you too Ashlyne :hug:
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And now I am afraid for LLL http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,310035.msg426473.html#msg426473 (http://mlparena.com/mlp/index.php/topic,310035.msg426473.html#msg426473)
I pmd her, I really hope she received Marie Antoinette :huh:
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I hope she did as well! Let us know Izrabeth :)
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Oh no! I hope LLL receives her pony! :(
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"kodamas" makes sense, since she used to be kodamasspirit on Ebay.
I'm glad I know her real name so I can avoid her on Etsy. I had one transaction with her on ebay and I love the pony I got but I was horrified to find out she was the seller. I asked Etsy about blocking certain sellers when I found another well-known pony scammer there but they said there is no way to block individual users. :/
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Skeen, could you please PM me her real name and what city/state she's in? I sell on etsy and want to be sure to avoid her if possible!
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LLL got her pony without problems, at least she has not been hit by this scammer! :happy:
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Don't worry guys I got the pony safe and sound :)
She was very polite with me and sent the pony super fast so I have had no problems with her, if I had known about her before I might have thought twice about buying her.
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Glad to hear it all worked out!
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Don't worry guys I got the pony safe and sound :)
She was very polite with me and sent the pony super fast so I have had no problems with her
Thats great news , I'm really glad everything worked out ok for you :hug: