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Title: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarah-Bee on September 10, 2012, 04:42:27 AM
Search for BRAZIL MY LITTLE PONY BABY FACTORY PROTOTYPE on ebay... what do you all think about this? I've never seen anything like this pony before and the seller mentions having talked to collectors about her but I've never heard anything either....  :what:
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: relcelestia on September 10, 2012, 05:03:42 AM
ya i saw that one, interesting huh? what kinda pose is that btw?? her head kinda looks like a flutter :)
makes me wish my name was susi! or.. maybe glad its not cause i think i would pay a TON for her haha!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: mylittleponydreams on September 10, 2012, 05:19:35 AM
Hi

Sarah bee how are you not long till ponycon now:)

I am on here now as well trying to find a mimic for sale at the con no joy yet:(

I've not seen this pony on ebay would you be kind enough to send me a link to it please. Xxx
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sternenstaub on September 10, 2012, 05:38:56 AM
I saw the auction tonight as well and was wondering the same.
Never heard before about that baby.. but it's cute and interesting!!

Unfort. I still have to pay for 2 other Grails...so I can't snap her at the moment.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Glacia471 on September 10, 2012, 05:45:09 AM
Well she's not a Baby Bowtie, and her pose is a mash-up of Baby Tiddlywinks' body and Baby Lofty's head. I'm not 100% convinced with her either, since her foot markings are a little 'off' to me. :awake: She is pretty though.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Pangel on September 10, 2012, 06:53:57 AM
I think I'd have to see her in the flesh to make a better judegement.

If the asking price wasn't so high, I'd probably give it a punt. But she seems really unnatural. Cute, though!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on September 10, 2012, 08:52:48 AM
pangel unatural is a good word!

the eyes look real to be, but i can't figure out the rest!

how do her hoof marks compare to other brazilian babies?

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarah-Bee on September 10, 2012, 09:09:54 AM
I wish I had a Brazil baby to compare her with lol. She sure is interesting and I wish I had funds to have a pop at getting her. I hope the winning bidder is someone here so we can get some more info :D I don't know what to make of her at all but she sure is cute! What do we think of that symbol, if anything? Do you think it's legit or been painted on by a non factory person?
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sternenstaub on September 10, 2012, 09:16:25 AM
I'm a bit in rush this evening- but I can take pics of my Brazil Babies Hoof Marks tomorrow morning or tonight when hubby is in bed.  :P
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Mapago on September 10, 2012, 12:15:07 PM
Hold your horses :P That's not a prototype!
That pony was given inside an easter egg last year, it's made by the same factory that made the original ponies, but they changed the mold a little bit and that thing came out, I'll see if I can find a better pic of it...
Here's a promotional pic:
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Ovo Qualitá ao leite - Pônei da Susi (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pautacom/5517015183/) por Pauta Comunicação (http://www.flickr.com/people/pautacom/), no Flickr
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Glacia471 on September 10, 2012, 12:20:10 PM
My Brazilian Baby Tiddlywinks has very different hoof markings than the so-called prototype. On the outside edge of the bottom of her front right foot she has a serial number, and on the inside if the concave part she has '(C) 1984 Hasbro'. On her front left foot, the entire concave section has been made flat (like other typical Brazilians), and it reads 'ESTRELA S.A.    IND. BRASILEIRA   MADE IN BRAZIL'. I noticed the prototype didn't even have 'hasbro' anywhere on its feet.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: maycrestmom on September 10, 2012, 12:25:49 PM
oh thanks so much for posting the pic and providing sucha good puzzle piece Mapago!!  So glad we have a "local" on the boards to explain more about what estrela was manufacturing :-)

here's the underside of my too-cute baby cuddles to compare =

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sooooo = a cool "fakie" than? I like her cousin-of-bowtie look :-) but yah, too bad so high on the start bid...
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: LadyGuinevere on September 10, 2012, 01:29:07 PM
Thank you very much for the information, Mapago!! :cheer: A recent pony/fakie/sort of thing hadn't even crossed my mind as a possibility! I was sitting there with my head tilted thinking, 'Something about this doesn't seem quite right,' and now we know why ;)
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: plushroo on September 10, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
Glad to have someone confirm this to us. Thanks for clearing this up! Wonder if anyone should contact the seller to let them know. I doubt they'd lower the price though! Cute baby nontheless so I hope I can find one like her one day for much cheaper!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: maycrestmom on September 10, 2012, 02:58:45 PM
oh man, that's an idea = hey Mapago = any way you could get your hands on any?  I'd gladly buy - bet others would too - if it's get-able (so not easter last year...)
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sternenstaub on September 10, 2012, 03:00:55 PM
Thanks for letting us know Mapago!!

Hmmm... any chance you can still get these eggs??
I would say I'm def. interested!!
Pony in a egg - to cool!!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Mapago on September 10, 2012, 03:49:50 PM
I'll see if I can get those from the factory, those eggs weren't widely available, they could only be found in a specific store chain, they weren't very popular either, I could find those even after june last year at the store, but I didn't get any in the end since I don't collect fakies and I wasn't really sure how to classify those :P but I'll try to hunt a few down
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: relcelestia on September 10, 2012, 04:56:20 PM
wow thats awesome!!!
i totally want one too!!! ^_^
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: hathorcat on September 10, 2012, 04:59:38 PM
Wow Mapago - awesome information!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Ember1 on September 10, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
heads up everyone.. I did email the seller of the auction to let him know the information we just learned about his pony and he replied saying I shouldn't treat him as though he is trying to fool the MLP community and that he has many happy MLP customers.  I do hope he will change the information in his auction to reflect the truth about the pony so others don't bid hoping the pony is a prototype.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on September 10, 2012, 09:08:40 PM
You can see the comment on the auction page so hopefully folks will notice it. Though I am disappointed he refused to change the listing to be accurate. Bump for awareness.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Ember1 on September 10, 2012, 09:17:47 PM
Yeh its totally strange. If I was him I would be adjusting the price to the value of the item.. Probably around $15 or so.. but at the very least revising the title and description for your potential buyers. .I wrote him the following reply "Dear isaiah8891,

Hi again,

I am not suggesting you were tyring to fool mlp collectors. Only trying to give you the facts about your pony so that the pony isn't unintentionally falsely represented. You might consider revising your item title and description? I can forward you pictures of the this baby sold as a promitional item one year ago. Its safe to say shes not a my little pony factory prototype.. just a promo for the susi doll line"
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarah-Bee on September 11, 2012, 04:52:48 AM
That's awesome, thank you so much for the info :biggrin: I'd definitely be interested too if you were able to get some of these ponies! xx
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Ember1 on September 11, 2012, 05:02:49 AM
Yes so would I .. Love to see her with her egg
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: GustyFox on September 11, 2012, 07:33:48 AM
Mapago already got everyone well informed :P

Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on September 11, 2012, 11:12:26 AM
mapago thank you so much for the information :bigups:

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Dusky on September 11, 2012, 12:40:07 PM
Nice detective work! :D
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: mylittleponydreams on September 11, 2012, 04:00:49 PM
 :whoa:
I wasn't too sure on this one myself and was with the rest of you guys on it!

I am glad you shared the photo of her as I was very close to placing a bid on her! Am glad I never now lol as she dose not look much like a rare vintage prototype pony I only wanted to get more htf ponies as I've only got the one baby sweet-tooth :good:

but I hope someone tells the seller or who ever buys her knows she is not a prototype so they don't spend all that money on something that is kinda like fake if you get what I mean there:) xx
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Galactica on September 11, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
Wow- great detective work! I was thinking it looked like a fakie-

but I would love one too :D

But I'd pay more like $15 + shipping- not $200, lol
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Ember1 on September 12, 2012, 08:59:32 AM
I and someone else have already let the seller know the truth about this pony and I have sent him pictures, evidence the pony is not a prototype.. It seems he does not want to change the information about the listing and still wants to market it as a prototype.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Galactica on September 12, 2012, 09:09:03 AM
I and someone else have already let the seller know the truth about this pony and I have sent him pictures, evidence the pony is not a prototype.. It seems he does not want to change the information about the listing and still wants to market it as a prototype.

That is irritating- judging from how defensive the seller was- I bet that he or she knew all along. 
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Mapago on September 12, 2012, 12:40:53 PM
The seller contacted me, I was the other person that posted about the pony on the listing. He answered in portuguese so I won't be quoting it here, but it became clear he's watching this topic and knows wat's going on
Anyhow, I contacted some friends that work with that sort of promotions, they *might* be able to help me find out if there's some way to get these ponies. I'll keep you ponies updated :cool:
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: hokuspokus on September 12, 2012, 03:36:20 PM
I saw that listing yesterday. I also saw the comments and the seller responded a bit.... like they just want the pony to be a prototype. It has been clearly told it's not, but i think he does not change anything so maybe someone thinks they have a OOAK & pays that actual high BIN.

Let's hope no one does that.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on September 12, 2012, 03:43:24 PM
The seller contacted me, I was the other person that posted about the pony on the listing. He answered in portuguese so I won't be quoting it here, but it became clear he's watching this topic and knows wat's going on
Anyhow, I contacted some friends that work with that sort of promotions, they *might* be able to help me find out if there's some way to get these ponies. I'll keep you ponies updated :cool:

Forgive my bluntness but that pisses me off.  Given all the facts refusing to clarify the listing is just lying.  It's false advertising.  This person is purposefully misrepresenting the item because they hope they will catch someone who doesn't know better.  The decent thing to do would be to change the listing to be accurate. And I personally am going to put this seller on my block list.  It isn't right.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Ember1 on September 12, 2012, 06:15:31 PM
I completely agree with you Sarahlacewing which is why I tried to bring it to his attention in the first place. The fact that he won't change the listing after he knows the truth is not right at all. It is now intentional misrepresentation. I will not be purchasing from him either. I too hope no one bids thinking the pony is in fact a prototype
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarah-Bee on September 13, 2012, 12:48:06 AM
Mapago that's great! Thank so you so much for trying :hug: x
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: BerryMouse on September 13, 2012, 02:00:00 AM
Whaa pony world is the best =)

It's awsome that you will try to offer you help getting these ponies.

They are so uber cute - I did'nt bought a "nirvana" for ages.

*grabby hands?* :D

:hug:
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on September 13, 2012, 06:05:51 AM
I used to love the candy with a toy inside items.  I think they discontinued them largely here in the US though.  Maybe just the smaller items for choking hazards.  But I remember stuff like that when I was little.  Things that make you go  :cheer:
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: NoDivision on September 13, 2012, 06:16:22 AM
I saw this listing, yeesh. I don't know how the seller can deny it after looking up the easter egg that clearly shows it comes with a pony... :\
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: skyrocketneko on September 13, 2012, 08:07:43 AM
At least all of the comments are below the auction. I hope unsuspecting buyers read these before they think about placing the bid.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: kissthethunder on September 13, 2012, 08:31:22 AM
At least all of the comments are below the auction. I hope unsuspecting buyers read these before they think about placing the bid.

I hate to get off topic, but I LOVE the GIF in your sig and I was wondering if I can use it on my DA page as my webcam!! It left me in stitches!!!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: skyrocketneko on September 13, 2012, 09:00:10 AM
Sure! I actually grabbed it off another pony forum, so I'm not sure where it came from! I thought it was simply hilarious, too!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Galactica on September 13, 2012, 09:51:26 AM
That Gif is hilarious...


(I messaged him too- I am sure he posted the questions so he could say that he is being honest about the listing and not get in trouble when the buyer purchases and then later finds out it was not what they thought...)
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: pinkkittywinks on September 13, 2012, 10:34:23 AM
i am hoping that any potential bidders will have seen this thread *hooves crossed* and know the truth.

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on September 13, 2012, 11:55:16 AM
Anyone over on the trading post?  We should make sure someone starts a thread over there too to warn them.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Galactica on September 13, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
The auction is over now- either it ended or he ended it or someone complained to ebay and they ended it (they would do that if someone were selling something not legit)

We'll have to see if it comes back up...
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: hokuspokus on September 13, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
The auction is over now- either it ended or he ended it or someone complained to ebay and they ended it (they would do that if someone were selling something not legit)

We'll have to see if it comes back up...

hmm.. i can't help wondering if they took the auction down themselves or Ebay did.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: plushroo on September 13, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
I think they did it themselves. If I'm not mistaken, if ebay pulls an auction, it can't be found?
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Galactica on September 13, 2012, 06:35:33 PM
Oh I think you are right!

I guess he got tired of pony-collectors nagging him to change it- lol
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: kitkatvintage on September 13, 2012, 08:16:12 PM
It's been relisted at a lower price on a 1 day auction.

Edit to add:
And by "lower" I mean, just slightly lower. Not accurate value considering that the pony is not a prototype.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on September 13, 2012, 09:55:13 PM
That description is better at least but of course neglects the fact it's not a my little pony but a fakie, and a modern fakie at that. Not at all worth that price in my opinion. But at least they are trying to be more accurate. Not coming off my block list though.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: hokuspokus on September 14, 2012, 04:31:29 AM
That description is better at least but of course neglects the fact it's not a my little pony but a fakie, and a modern fakie at that. Not at all worth that price in my opinion. But at least they are trying to be more accurate. Not coming off my block list though.

Yea, the discription still doesn't make it clear that it's NOT an actual my little pony. At least they changed the add title & stuff, but still... not accurate.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Sarahlacewing on September 14, 2012, 04:46:06 AM
Not only that the listing is still pre-1990 suggesting it is a vintage toy which as we have pointed out many times it is not.  IT was not released at the same time in the 80s as the original my little pony toys were.  So even if they are better they are still claiming it's some kind of rare promotional pony, and they are still claiming it is vintage which it is not.  I hate to be nit picky about it but if someone actually bought it they would be very upset to learn it's true origin.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: hokuspokus on September 14, 2012, 04:47:41 AM
You're totally right Sarah, i don't judge that as nit picky, they still try to make the pony look more special/vintage/whatever than it is..
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Galactica on September 14, 2012, 09:37:28 AM
Dishonest- especially when he now knows where the pony is from. 
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: tootie_tails on September 14, 2012, 10:44:06 AM
The pony is cute after all, and I'm a fakie collector so if I like a pony I don't mind if it doesn't look genuine. Would love to have it! :) Not at the price the seller is asking though. I would probably be willing to pay around $10-15 at the most.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: skyrocketneko on September 14, 2012, 11:04:05 AM
I posted on the other forum. Hopefully nobody will be roped into the dishonesty.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on September 14, 2012, 12:23:57 PM
I imagine the seller took it down because of the questions and answers at the bottom of the auction describing the pony as a new promotional toy that accompanies other Susi toys...  :(  Does the new auction allow for questions to be asked?
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Loa on September 15, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
Sometimes sellers just don't want to be constantly contacted and told they are wrong.
You've done everything you can, so perhaps just back away and let the seller do their own thing. :)
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Trish on October 22, 2012, 02:46:20 PM
A heads up - this one has resurfaced on eBay again although the description seems right this time.
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Mermaid on October 22, 2012, 11:42:07 PM
I think this pony is SUPER interesting. I wonder if they will make more? I would totally be interested in purchasing one! And more if they are making them like g1s!
Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: tootie_tails on October 23, 2012, 12:17:52 PM
Thanks for the heads up! :)
I would be interested but the price is still too high.. now the auction is set so that you can make an offer but that doesn't really help when shipping *starts* at $25.

Title: Re: Brazil Baby Factory Prototype?
Post by: Goldilocks on October 24, 2012, 11:28:47 AM
Here's a promotional pic:
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How cute is this packaging and the pony too :heart: So they're not available in stores anymore? Why didn't we know anything about these before even though they're modern :D
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