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Title: Why won't my buyer pay me?! ( atgi on ebay)
Post by: michelle53 on August 01, 2012, 11:09:13 AM
This is not pony related, but I could use some advice.  On July 18th, one of my items on eBay sold.  Great, I was happy and sent the buyer an invoice.  Nothing beyond that.  Then 5 days later on the 23rd, the same buyer bought 2 more of my items and asked about another one.  I sent another invoice with combined shipping for the three purchased items 2 days later.  They said that was fine, and asked again about my other item.  That night, I sent over a price for the item they had asked about and said that shipping would cost more considering the weight of the new item.  This was 4 days ago.  Today marks 15 days since the initial auction ended.

Today is August 1st and I still have not been paid for ANY of the items they purchased.  Now I am now getting angry!!!   The kicker??  All 3 items including shipping are like $23 total.  All of my auctions clearly state that "payment must be made within 3 days of auction ending."  This person is not a newbie buyer, with over 1000+ positive feedback.  So why haven't they paid for my auctions yet?!  I strive to be a patient and understanding person, and I have no problem helping someone out!  If the buyer needs more time to pay, then they need to let me know that.

Considering both myself and the buyer have been communicating through messages, I would feel like a major jerk relisting the items.  In all reality, I have another person interested in 2 of the sold items, and would much rather sell them to her.  What should I do?  How much longer should I wait???  Ugh, I hate being in this type of situation. 

[edited to add ID to the  title for you  :hug: . this person is a time waster.  ~ XX Ringlets ]
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: ponylady on August 01, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
 :hug: Michelle.

I am going to go by a little experience here with those types of buyers.  When you send a new combined invoice to them it resets the whole how many days they have to pay.  So yes, initially it had been 15 days from the sale of the first item but like I said when you send that new invoice it changes back to the beginning according to ebay.  And buyers have figured this out, sometimes to string you along for some extra days.  I am not saying that all buyers who do this are milking the system but there are one's who do.

I would politely message her and say that although you are pleased she has purchased your items that payment is now due.  I think if you are upfront with her about it she will either pay or hopefully tell you she needs more time.

Good Luck! and let us know how it turns out.

Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 01, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
Ahh, I see what you're saying Ponylady.  So in all reality, I suppose I shot myself in the foot by sending the invoice.  Oh well, I've never had this happen before, and have sold items on eBay before with no incident.  I suppose it is better than having to deal with someone complaining that the item is not as described or that the item is not in the box as others are handling right now!!! 

Thanks so much for your help Ponylady:)  You are seriously one of the best eBay sellers I've ever had the pleasure of buying from!!  For the future, I should just not send an invoice unless requested by the buyer.  Or just continue to sell here on the Arena.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: ponylady on August 01, 2012, 12:24:13 PM
I don't think you did anything wrong by sending her a new invoice, it's just it shows the most recent purchase date and voids that other one technically.

But if you have it stated in your auctions that payment is due within three days.  Then you are well within your right to expect payment no matter what was just purchased.  Like I said I would message her and explain that payment is due.  It just stinks when these things happen especially if you were counting on getting paid within a specific time frame. 

And thankies for the compliment.   :hug:
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: Ringlets on August 01, 2012, 05:28:01 PM
*hugs*  :hug:  Its such a pain when buyers do that - especially when they seem to think its perfectly ok :( 
  I would definitely suggest that you contact your buyer and politely ask her if she still wants the items she originally bought since you noticed its been 15 days since the first purchase, and you usually require payment within 3 days.  Hopefully that will move her to hurry up and pay you.  If she has so much positive feedback there is still a very good chance she is going to pay up, but its not fair to keep you waiting for this long *sigh*
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: TornadoLovesMelody on August 01, 2012, 07:04:00 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that you're having trouble with a buyer. You of all people. =(
Ponylady and Ringlets have great advice and I have nothing to add to it. I just hope for the best. Please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: plushroo on August 01, 2012, 08:12:28 PM
I never knew that it would restart the time you first bought an item. 
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 02, 2012, 05:14:12 AM
I never knew that either Plush!!  Awww thanks TLM for the sweet words, I'm so happy to see you around again!!!!!
So still no payment.  I'm sending over an email just to ask what is going  on (politely). 
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: kakenterprise on August 02, 2012, 05:24:54 AM
I find that some people honestly forget to pay or try to put it off for as long as possible.  If they have 1000+ in feedback there probably not going to risk getting a none paying strike against their account.  I had a similar situation with a giant plush I wanted out of the house asap.  I sent a friendly email telling them their item was packaged and would go out as soon as I received a payment.  The next day I received a payment and was trilled to ship it.     

You can except a payment within 3 days but I'm pretty sure you can't file against a buyer for 7 days. 
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: emery on August 04, 2012, 09:04:17 AM
You can actually file a non-paying bidder dispute as soon as 4 days after the auction ends. Then the buyer still has 4 days to make payment before they get the strike so I would recommend opening a dispute if you don't get payment or communication ASAP. They are not a new ebayer if they have that much feedback and they have been communicating so they just may need a little kick to actually get the payment out of them and sometimes the dispute does the trick. If you last sent the combined shipping invoice over 4 days ago you are well within your rights to start opening disputes if you don't hear anything back.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 04, 2012, 10:24:14 AM
Day 17, still no payment.  I sent over a polite message the other day kindly asking when they plan on remitting their payment.  The buyer did reply, saying they are stalking another one of my auctions and *might* buy that one too. 
I have to be honest, I'm not at all happy with how any of this has gone down.  I really don't mind waiting the extra time if the person has a good reason.  Heck, I try to be as flexible as possible, but even I have my limits.

Ugh, such a pain the the butt!!!!
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: Shenanigans on August 04, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
Sometimes people will put in their description that they will wait for payment in between auctions for a certain amount of time. Like if they win an auction they have to pay within 5 or 6 days to get combined shipping. Not wait 7 to 10 days to bid on another because then the seller just keeps getting strung along. The buyer doesn't sound like he/she is even sure they are going to bid :( I think you've you patient long enough. Maybe you can tell them you don't have forever to wait for payment and give them a deadline?
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: ponylady on August 04, 2012, 11:07:43 AM
What a joke.  I can't believe they are still stringing you along.

In all honesty I would block them so they can not purchase anymore items till they make good on the other items.

I would then send them a polite message and say although you appreciate their business you can no longer wait on payment for the other items.  And you have blocked them from further purchase until payment is made.

That is just plain ridiculous making you wait and then telling you "Oh I was going to purchase more" after YOU emailed them.  If they had emailed you instead stating their intentions then I might think differently about it but that is not the case.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 04, 2012, 01:58:12 PM
All of my auctions state:  payment is due within 3 days of auction ending.  There's no confusion there, no head scratching moment!!  The buyer keeps saying how they want another of my (expensive) items and wants to know how much I'd sell it to them for.  Check the listing!!!  The item is my PVC boned underbust corset that I paid a fortune for.  I get the feeling they want it for super cheap.  Sorry, but no.  How about you pay me the 23.65 that you owe me and move on.

I am so frustrated right now.  Not to mention I have to wait before PayPal releases the funds to me, which will likely be another 2 weeks.  That makes over a month for me to get paid.  I have my own things to pay for, and Arena members I owe money to.  I can't afford to be jerked around!!!  I am never selling on eBay again! 
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: Glacia471 on August 04, 2012, 02:19:19 PM
:yikes: This just sounds like a huge hassle! Sorry you're having to deal with this Michelle :drunk:  Back when I did still sell on ebay, I only listed items maybe 2 consecutive days a week and wouldn't list more until those had finished simply to avoid situations like these. I do know that won't work for everyone though :(
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 04, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
Thanks for the advice Dani:).  I really appreciate everyone's love and advice for me.  I can't express my thanks and gratitude.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: TornadoLovesMelody on August 07, 2012, 08:07:40 AM
*hugs tight*

I know I've been lousy lately when it comes to trading.. but not paying?
*growl*
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: Moondancer115 on August 07, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
Just checking if there are any updates with your buyer. How is it gping? Is there still contact and has he/she already paid or still *waiting* for a auction?
Hope everything will work out  ^.^
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 07, 2012, 05:52:09 PM
*hugs tight*

I know I've been lousy lately when it comes to trading.. but not paying?
*growl*

You could never be lousy my dear:)

Update as of 8-7-12, STILL NO PAYMENT!!!!
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 08, 2012, 08:49:24 AM
Can you block them from bidding on future auctions?  That might get their attention that you don't plan on combining shipping for the auctions they have won over the past week.  :( *pony hugs*
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: Princess-Sparkles on August 08, 2012, 03:24:46 PM
OMG how could someone just bid on all these auctions and just not pay. I feel bad if I leave it for one day. I don't understand how hard it is to communicate. I'm sorry your going through this. :hug: I hope you get it sorted very soon.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 08, 2012, 04:53:42 PM
Thanks guys!!  Still nothing:(
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: ponylady on August 08, 2012, 05:14:01 PM
Michelle I love you and I think that you are a wonderful person.

But you need to open a dispute before it's to late to do so.  This person is clearly taking advantage of your good nature.  And it needs to be stopped, it is just plain ridiculous at this point.

Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 08, 2012, 05:41:39 PM
I love you too Ponylady, and I value your advice.  I am going to open a dispute tonight against the buyer.  I really hate to do this, and I do feel like a jerk, but enough is enough.  I noticed on recent feedback that I am not the only one having a problem with them at the moment:(  Apparently they are on a non-paying streak.

I just want this to be over.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: Ringlets on August 09, 2012, 04:45:58 PM
Yes please do open a dispute hun because this person has wasted your time for long enough :hug: 
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: michelle53 on August 09, 2012, 06:22:07 PM
I opened disputes on all 3 of my items the buyer bid on.  I feel not shame in releasing their eBay id: atgi
Judging from their feedback, it appears this person goes through cycles where they pay then not pay.  Apparently, I am one of those sellers who is in the 'not pay' category.  I strive to be a patient and tolerant person, but my limit has been reached and I am just so irritated at this point.  Every message I send them gently reminding them to pay is replied with inquiries about ANOTHER of my items.  Seriously, you're not paying me for the skirt and my wings yet now you want my corset??  Hell no.

Please beware this ebayer!  They have over 4000+ transactions, yet they totally flaked out on me.  I should be able to close this case on the 13th, I just want to be done with this.  Thank you to everyone who has offered advice and their support. 
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?!
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 09, 2012, 09:42:46 PM
*pony hugs*  Thanks for sharing their ID. 
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?! ( atgi on ebay)
Post by: Ringlets on August 10, 2012, 03:00:36 AM
I added their ID to the title of the thread so that others can see it easily   ;)  Hopefully you should win your cases quickly (or else it will make that buyer get his/her butt into gear and pay up at last)
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?! ( atgi on ebay)
Post by: Shenanigans on August 13, 2012, 11:30:34 PM
Let us know how it turns out :hug:
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?! ( atgi on ebay)
Post by: michelle53 on August 14, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
I opened an unpaid case, and the buyer had until yesterday to pay.  Late last night they finally paid me, nearly 1 month after the auction ended!  I'm in no rush to ship, considering I'm really sick.  I blocked this person from bidding again on any of my auctions, and I hope that this is the last time I have to deal with atgi!!

Thanks everyone for your advice and support!  You all are the best:)
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?! ( atgi on ebay)
Post by: Ringlets on August 14, 2012, 05:25:57 PM
I'm really glad that opening the case worked , and you blocked them from bidding/buying again as well   :bigups:   :cheer:  :frolic: 
 Hope you feel better soon hun! *huggles*  :hug:
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?! ( atgi on ebay)
Post by: DazzleKitty on August 14, 2012, 09:40:24 PM
I will never understand why people take the energy to bid if they don't intend on buying. At least you did get your payment, but sorry you had to wait so long. I'd take my time shipping out too. They deserve to wait. No need to make yourself go out when sick to expend energy on a dork like this.
Title: Re: Why won't my buyer pay me?! ( atgi on ebay)
Post by: Shenanigans on August 16, 2012, 01:42:35 PM
I'm glad the buyer finally paid, but what a headache! I would totally block them too. Hope you feel better soon!
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