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Title: Deflocking value?
Post by: paradise-estate on July 17, 2012, 03:56:41 PM
This has probably been asked before but does deflocking take away a ponys value and desirablility? Your thoughts...
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: reanna-mator on July 17, 2012, 04:01:16 PM
I'm interested in this too... I've got a SS Twilight whose flocking is all yellowed and I frankly think she'd look a lot better without it.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: ApertureScience on July 17, 2012, 04:31:45 PM
I've wondered too.  I prefer them without flocking; I saw a deflocked Crumpet and I went crazy over how much prettier she was.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Cadence on July 17, 2012, 04:35:14 PM
I'm no PC expert, but I guess it all depends on the pony's condition and one's preference. Personally I would rather have a clean deflocked pony instead of a dirty-looking flocked one. But there are collectors who prefer ponies to be in their original conditions -- even if they are very dirty.

I would assume restore pros are more likely to be indifferent, because ponies can be deflocked and reflocked! =)
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Shenanigans on July 17, 2012, 04:39:25 PM
I know I would pay a lot more for a deflocked one that a SS - whether it was clean or not. I love them deflocked! :biggrin:
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Aerora on July 17, 2012, 04:40:13 PM
There are probably also some people who would be willing to pay a little more for a pony who's had the deflocking done already than buy one with manky flocking and do it themselves, I'd think. It would definitely depend on the condition, though!
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: babystarz on July 17, 2012, 04:47:28 PM
It depends on how well the pony has been deflocked, but deflocking can actually increase value for ponies with really ratty flocking. It's one of the few alterations that lots of collectors seem to like.

Edit: I just had a gander at completed eBay listings, here some final prices that ponies sold for:

Deflocked Crumpet $68.88
Normal Crumpet $31.01

Deflocked Truly $35.99
Normal Truly $8.00

Deflocked Lofty $20.68
Normal Lofty $17.38 (came with back card & accessories)

So as you can see, there's definitely a market out there for well-executed deflocks!

Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: knitgirl on July 17, 2012, 05:00:56 PM
I prefer them without.  I need a deflocked Paradise!
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: hathorcat on July 17, 2012, 05:34:34 PM
Personally I feel there is more "value" in a regular so soft pony.

However, I sold some of my deflocks about 8 or 9 months ago and a few of them sold for prices I would never have managed when the pony was flocked! And when you look at some recent sales prices, including the ones babystarz has quoted above, oddly I think no - I dont think it does devalue and in some cases [Twilight, Crumpet, Angel] it may even increase the price people are willing to pay as curious as this seems.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Heliodor on July 17, 2012, 05:35:58 PM
I've wondered too.  I prefer them without flocking; I saw a deflocked Crumpet and I went crazy over how much prettier she was.

I saw that Crumpet too (or, in any case, a deflocked one) and she's simply stunning deflocked. I prefer deflocked also. Personally I'd consider a deflocked SS worth more to me, because then I don't have to deflock her ha, ha.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: HollowZero on July 17, 2012, 06:19:16 PM
I, on the other hand, adore So-Softs, and even if they have grubby flocking, gladly take them.

I did deflock my childhood Paradise though because there was just no way to get all the ingrained dirt out of her, she was hideous. I would prefer her flocked but I takes what I gets!
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Elisto on July 17, 2012, 06:57:27 PM
Personally I prefer flocked, even when it's in bad shape, but I'm pretty sure that's the minority opinion, and deflocking doesn't hurt and sometimes helps their value and desireability.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Silver_mirror46 on July 17, 2012, 07:20:50 PM
I agree with Elisto, the flocking even flawed is so soft and wonderful *_*
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: angela22 on July 17, 2012, 07:26:17 PM
So I usually prefer my so softs to be in mint or near mint condition. If the flocking is beyond hope - than I deflock them to give them a second life. I recently deflocked a Gusty and now hubby is making a custom reverse Gusty from her. :)
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: BigBrotherPony on July 17, 2012, 07:27:22 PM
I like both to be honest, but I am also scared that a deflocking frenzy may start... Which may make it difficult in the future to find any decent flocked ponies.

If the flocking is decent I think keep em flocked! Only if a pony is in really manly condition should you deflock it.
:)
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: nhal039 on July 18, 2012, 01:50:06 AM
I find deflocking increase value but it depends who is buying. I would prefer buying ponies deflocked than doing it myself cause its so hard! Normally people charge people about $15 to deflock a pony and to be honset all those I have seen being sold on the arena have asking prices of $20 + for the common ss deflocked like ribbons and paradise
Nice thread thou I was wondering this myself
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: zora on July 18, 2012, 05:56:27 AM
ugly yellowed or partly ripped off flocking - remove it! its that simple :D
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: SkyCakes on July 18, 2012, 07:38:21 AM
I have only 1 deflock in my herd currently. The other was traded. This pony is SS taffy. When I got her she barely had any flocking at  all so I decided to deflock her. I think there is a market for deflocks. Though I think that deflocking should only be used as a last resort.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Jinxxy on July 18, 2012, 08:27:09 AM
A pony can become "mint" again (though I use that term loosely in this case)
if she has been deflocked. There is only so much cleaning you can do with a SS. A SS with bad flocking loss just looks like she has mange and I'd MUCH rather personally buy a nicely deflocked one than a nasty grubby looking flocked one.
Also, deflocking can be a bit of a pain in the rump, so having it already be done is one less thing to worry about.

That's just my personal preferance though, I also would rather have a well done re-hair than a chopped dry original mane :p
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: angela22 on July 18, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
"Mange"    :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: scarletjul on July 18, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Honestly, I much prefer a so soft with the flocking and will spend the time to search for one with excellent flocking rather than get a mangy one. That said, if it is a rare one, I might be willing to take one on its less than perfect flocking just to have her in my collection. There's just something special about a so soft to me.  :)

That said, I think the value depends on the buyer.  Some colletors really prefer a really well-executed deflock (they are a lot of work!) and are willing to pay more for that.  And I think it is worth that too.  :)
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: gemini_pony on July 19, 2012, 12:46:45 AM
Even though Im not fond of the flocking i would only de-flock if they are all icky and can not be cleaned.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: xeevee on July 19, 2012, 12:50:44 AM
I would say perfect flocking is worth more than deflocked, but deflocked would be worth more than cruddy flocking.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: moonflower on July 19, 2012, 02:41:36 AM
Personally I like them to be flocked, although I can see why some people might want to collect deflocked ones.

I sure hope no minty so soft ponies are deflocked just to make their "value" go up! I would be horrified if that happened! Only really manky so softs should be considered for flocking removal.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: nhal039 on July 19, 2012, 03:46:17 AM
I am sure no one deflocks good flocked ponies cause they are hard to come by and would fetch more than a deflock generally speaking : )
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: Lilja on July 19, 2012, 04:40:09 AM
I like So Softs, so I sure hope a SS with good flocking would always sell for more than a deflock. But when I see the prices some deflocks go for on eBay compared to perfectly fine SS, it does kind of worry me that people will get the idea that deflocking generally increases value.

A deflock is essentially kind of like a custom.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: paradise-estate on July 19, 2012, 05:49:25 AM
Hmmm I like the so softs as they are to be honest! I know the flocking can get ugly, but isn't there perfectly doable ways to clean them up? Would it not take less time to clean the flocking rather than de-flocking? I understand that if half the flocking is gone, yes, remove it ^.^
So softs (from what i can gather now) weren't that common/popular in the  UK back in the day and are quite hard to get hold of (for me personally). So i tend to appreciate them as they are! But I'm a bit shocked  that de-flocked can reach more! I always thought it was a type of custom too, like Spike said.
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: moonflower on July 19, 2012, 06:03:36 AM
Hmmm I like the so softs as they are to be honest! I know the flocking can get ugly, but isn't there perfectly doable ways to clean them up? Would it not take less time to clean the flocking rather than de-flocking? I understand that if half the flocking is gone, yes, remove it ^.^
So softs (from what i can gather now) weren't that common/popular in the  UK back in the day and are quite hard to get hold of (for me personally). So i tend to appreciate them as they are! But I'm a bit shocked  that de-flocked can reach more! I always thought it was a type of custom too, like Spike said.

I agree, but one of my so soft's flocking is so manky looking there is no way it could be cleaned up. The flocking is not just dirty; it is damaged and play worn (the actual flocking looks worn, not just bald patches). The only reason I have not deflocked her is because I am looking to get an upgrade first. I view deflocks as customs also, so she would be sold on. She is the only one I have considered for a deflock, despite the fact that some of my others also have less than perfect flocking.

As far as I am aware So Softs were not sold in the UK at all?
Title: Re: Deflocking value?
Post by: hathorcat on July 19, 2012, 01:22:09 PM
Hmmm I like the so softs as they are to be honest! I know the flocking can get ugly, but isn't there perfectly doable ways to clean them up? Would it not take less time to clean the flocking rather than de-flocking? I understand that if half the flocking is gone, yes, remove it ^.^
So softs (from what i can gather now) weren't that common/popular in the  UK back in the day and are quite hard to get hold of (for me personally). So i tend to appreciate them as they are! But I'm a bit shocked  that de-flocked can reach more! I always thought it was a type of custom too, like Spike said.

I agree, but one of my so soft's flocking is so manky looking there is no way it could be cleaned up. The flocking is not just dirty; it is damaged and play worn (the actual flocking looks worn, not just bald patches). The only reason I have not deflocked her is because I am looking to get an upgrade first. I view deflocks as customs also, so she would be sold on. She is the only one I have considered for a deflock, despite the fact that some of my others also have less than perfect flocking.

As far as I am aware So Softs were not sold in the UK at all?

Yes, thats right...no so softs for us :( Even the Paradise which is featured in the Hasbro marketing material with Paradise Estate is a non so soft version!
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