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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Skelletonimp on June 20, 2012, 05:49:36 AM
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A new pony arrived at my house today and I really want to clean her on the inside. She has tailrust an there are some small parts of rust inside her body. Now I'm finding a lot of tutorials about "how to clean tail rust", but none of them show how to get the tail back in. Can someone show it to me with pics? :blush:
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I don't do any pics but I'm sure there's a pic tutorial out there somewhere...
The easiest way I have found is when the tail is clean, at the fold of the tail where you fold it in two put a cable tie and tighten it. Poke the long end of the cable tie through the tail hole, thread it through the neck and pull. It should pop through. Pull it so the cable tie comes through the neck hole, pop another cable tie around all of the hair below the first cable tie and tighten it off. Trim the ends of the cable tie off and pull the end of the tail to seat it correctly in the tail hole.
Simple concept but hard to explain :blush: Pics would be way better!
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If the head is off, I use tweasers to pull a ribbon, folded in half, part way through the body so that theres a 'U' coming out of the neck. Make sure the ribbon end don't get pulled all the way through the body. I lace the end of the tail into the 'U' and then, I pull the ribbon ends coming out of the ponies butt, give it a good yank and 'pop', pony tail is back in :)
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How small are the "cable ties" you use? I use small tie rips but they apparently are to big...
Post Merge: June 20, 2012, 06:27:43 AM
I might use your technique kissthethunder :)
Thanks for the suggestions :D
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I use 4/5" cable ties, never had a problem with those :)
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Here's my most effective strategy:
- secure the tail with a ribbon in place where the original metallic clip was placed
- place the ribboned part against the tail hole
- "push it" into the tail hole with a pointed object (scissors work best), be cautious though not to damage the plastic
- once the ribboned part is in, use pliers to pull the tail all up to the neck hole
- secure each side of the ribboned part with cable ties (I use two for better security)
- once this is done, pull the tail back until the secured part meets the tail hole
And that's basically it.
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I used kissthethunder her technique :)
I have tried it a few times before but I always used yarn and such for it and that was to weak.
This time I used something stronger and it worked :)
Here's my beautiful new girl, her tail is much much much cleaner then when I got her, but still not all of the rust is out :(
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(Auriken Sundae Best Banana Surprise, she's a set completer ^^)
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Have you tried to clean the rust with toothpaste?
It's very helpful to clean up tailrust. :)
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I used kissthethunder her technique :)
I have tried it a few times before but I always used yarn and such for it and that was to weak.
This time I used something stronger and it worked :)
Here's my beautiful new girl, her tail is much much much cleaner then when I got her, but still not all of the rust is out :(
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(Auriken Sundae Best Banana Surprise, she's a set completer ^^)
I'm so glad it worked for you! :hug: Banana Surprise looks so much happier! Such a pretty girl!
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I don't do any pics but I'm sure there's a pic tutorial out there somewhere...
The easiest way I have found is when the tail is clean, at the fold of the tail where you fold it in two put a cable tie and tighten it. Poke the long end of the cable tie through the tail hole, thread it through the neck and pull. It should pop through. Pull it so the cable tie comes through the neck hole, pop another cable tie around all of the hair below the first cable tie and tighten it off. Trim the ends of the cable tie off and pull the end of the tail to seat it correctly in the tail hole.
Simple concept but hard to explain :blush: Pics would be way better!
This is how I do it as well! I find the advantage to this is usually if your cable tie head is large enough then you can still give your pony's tail a proper brush without worrying about the tail popping back out again!
And as Stern says - toothpaste or bicarbonate should shift that tail rust after some repeat scrubbing!
She looks lovely - congrats on adding her to your collection.
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I have to say:
there is a MUCH easier way to get tails back in (at least to my mind, and these other ways are great too)... but.... for ME, the easiest way to get tail back in is:
wrap it in a small square of aluminum foil, twisted tight, and sharpened toward the tip of the tail. Poke the tail back through pointed tip first and pull through. Remove foil. The End.
:biggrin:
Post Merge: June 20, 2012, 07:27:23 PM
Oh and by the way, now that my secret strategy is out, I must kill you all.
Nah, I'm only serious.
:P
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ok I have to say I found the easiest way ever... I wish I did it sooner.
I do the cable tie thing to but some plastics r so hard is impossible or very diffcult to say the least to push the tail back through the tail hole... this is what have just learnt... put the ponies butt in some boiling water once the plastic is soft the cable tie can pull through so easily! It even works on g3s... its a winner ; )
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I don't remove the metal clasp on G1's. It rarely rusts. I only remove the washer. So the tail pushed back in easy. Now that I know you people remove the clasp I really don't want to buy any pony from a collector.
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I don't remove the metal clasp on G1's. It rarely rusts. I only remove the washer. So the tail pushed back in easy. Now that I know you people remove the clasp I really don't want to buy any pony from a collector.
I just dont find it worth the risk...they are just as likely to have rust as a tail washer even though they may not suffer from it as often - if I am going to the effort of cleaning a tail and removing the washer and head I may as well get rid of any potential remaining future problems.
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I don't remove the metal clasp on G1's. It rarely rusts. I only remove the washer. So the tail pushed back in easy. Now that I know you people remove the clasp I really don't want to buy any pony from a collector.
I just dont find it worth the risk...they are just as likely to have rust as a tail washer even though they may not suffer from it as often - if I am going to the effort of cleaning a tail and removing the washer and head I may as well get rid of any potential remaining future problems.
This! The clasp most certainly does rust! Wait to you get a serve case of tail rust you will see its not fun.. 90 % of the time the rust under the clasp doesnt come out either.
I would 100 % prefer buying a pony with 'cable ties instead of tail rust'. Firstly cause cleaning its a pain and taking of the clasp is hard so I would rather not have to do it myself. Secondly because rust causes cancer.. I cant tell you how many ponies I have opened up to find there cause of cancer was cause of rust spots grr, lots of the time I cant even see they have tail rust but are opening them up to investage a cancer spot or replace a tail or something and I see the rust! So back to the point I am glad someone has taking the time to fix a tail as I know further down the track there is going to be no hidden surprise!
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I don't remove the clasps unless I have to. However that being said if there is any sign of rust going on at all, I will remove them. Quite honestly, I don't think it makes that significant difference in an off of card, played with condition pony. If you had your hands on a rare, mint or on card pony, then I could see a reason to leave them unaltered as possible. But loose, what difference does it make? Its not like someone is going to come check out your pony butts unless they are a buyer in which case they may be better served if they don't have to worry about rust... Just some thoughts.
I should add that most of my ponies do have the bracket and a lot of them still have the washer. But I am the original owner of more than half of them and I took very good care of them when I was a little girl.
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I don't remove the metal clasp on G1's. It rarely rusts. I only remove the washer. So the tail pushed back in easy. Now that I know you people remove the clasp I really don't want to buy any pony from a collector.
I have to admit when I heard this I was shocked. There isn't much of any reason at all to remove this and removing the metal bracket really reduces the value of the pony as you will never then be able to prove it was the pony's original tail. Yikes. Just remove the washer if you have to. Don't ever take off the metal clasp. Inserting the tail is so easy. I just poke it back through with the metal clasp going in the bum first and use pliers to pull it back through and position it. I never use zip ties either as the tails stay in really well when the metal piece is turned horizontal on the inside of the pony. I was always taught by toy and doll restorationists that above all the very minimal should be done to keep the original as much as its original as possible. To remove things reduces values so much that one day it may mean the sale or not sale of an item as most collectors who are willing to put money down on antiques want as much original as possible. So minimal care even if you think you will never get rid of it...in the antique world cleaning rust is a big no no lol unless its a painting. I keep all of my washers in case I am to ever resell a pony so that the original can go back in. I rust treat the washers. As long as they don't get wet again they should survive without rusting out all over the pony tail. I really think its the water and the bathing with the pony thats the biggest problem with tail rust. I can't tell you how many children I babysat in the 1980's that in almost ever case there was a pile of wet ponies in the bathtub near the drain. LOL
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I don't remove the metal clasp on G1's. It rarely rusts. I only remove the washer. So the tail pushed back in easy. Now that I know you people remove the clasp I really don't want to buy any pony from a collector.
I have to admit when I heard this I was shocked. There isn't much of any reason at all to remove this and removing the metal bracket really reduces the value of the pony as you will never then be able to prove it was the pony's original tail. Yikes. Just remove the washer if you have to. Don't ever take off the metal clasp.
hehe you know the tail is original when a rusty clasp has come off.. trust me.. the rust mark still pretty much stays there
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I have done many pony tails - 99% okay!
However - I go the other way.......Head first!
After washing and cleaning the tail NEVER removing the metal clasp...... I put on a new washer (easily obtained from hardware stores)
Then I wind a fine but strong wire around from the tip of the tail back to the washer and pull from head to tail. - (naturally you have to have the head off.....but if pony has tail rust you can bet her whole inside needs cleaning anyway - so off with her head!)
Tail comes out - wire comes off and you have a new fresh washer so the tail won't ever pull out!
Not always right first go (wire slips off - tail comes through crooked!)....but very good result at the end! (pun intended!)
Works for me!!!
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ive yet to do it..but...im rather curious as to why no one puts the washer back....and better yet a STAINLESS washer from a hardware or hobby shop....ive done tons of modeling work and know how bad it is to get things pulled thru holes..and the trick i always used was a straightened paperclip(or piano wire) bent to the shape i needed and some WIDE waxy dentlefloss as it helps slip back out of place but is thin and crazy strong
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I dont put a washer back in as I dont need to...sounds silly and I know there are plastic and other options which wont rust but they are as equally unoriginal as not having an original washer therefore for me I dont bother. I always note in my collection if ponies have had "work done" so that I can declare it at sale...much as I would with my car!
I dont know why other people dont replace them...I can only speak on my own preference!