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Title: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Phekzhen on June 12, 2012, 08:25:23 PM
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The power of the bronies is strong.


This is from the Las Vegas Licensing Expo. Image from the Angry Otaku, and were posted on EqD ([size=78%]http://www.hasbro.com/mylittlepony/en_US/2012/06/mlp-licensing-expo-2012-images-from.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EquestriaDaily+%28Equestria+Daily%29&utm_content=Google+Reader (http://www.hasbro.com/mylittlepony/en_US/2012/06/mlp-licensing-expo-2012-images-from.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+EquestriaDaily+%28Equestria+Daily%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)[/size]). I posted them all and discussed them on my blog, too ([size=78%]http://mlpg4merch.tumblr.com/post/25000416754/las-vegas-licensing-expo-pony (http://mlpg4merch.tumblr.com/post/25000416754/las-vegas-licensing-expo-pony)[/size])


So now she has a canon street name and stage name. I do hope she gets a ton of merch, she's great.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: hyenacub on June 12, 2012, 08:32:20 PM
I still think she looks like a guy pony.  XD  I like the name Vinyl Scratch, myself.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Phekzhen on June 12, 2012, 08:36:05 PM
She's quite androgynous, and I do like that about her.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: ZettaMomo on June 12, 2012, 08:40:54 PM
I like the name Vinyl Scratch compared to DJ PON3. Vinyl Scratch just seems easier to say.

That's a nice looking poster.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Chi on June 12, 2012, 08:45:47 PM
Ooo, that's a nice poster. :)
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: TwistedWindSox on June 12, 2012, 08:53:04 PM
I like the name Vinyl Scratch as her real name... Still think DJ P0N-3 should be her stage name, though (reminds me of deadmau5, who I adore. :P )
Anywhoo, she is definitely my favourite reoccurring background pony. ^.^ Such a cool design.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Calico_Star on June 12, 2012, 09:09:17 PM
So...they're continuing to use the names bronies have come up with as the ponies' official names?  :huh:
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: tehrin on June 12, 2012, 09:11:11 PM
I really do like the names, regardless if bronies came up with it or not. :3 It's rather creative, fitting, and nice sounding. :D
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Gonzo on June 12, 2012, 09:18:34 PM
I really do like the names, regardless if bronies came up with it or not. :3 It's rather creative, fitting, and nice sounding. :D


Agreed. :) As soon as that Nightmare Moon set's available (which IIRC contains Vinyl Scratch), I'm gonna grab it (even if I'm broke by then and have to wait 'til Christmas for it. XD); Vinyl's a fairly unique background pony and I'm glad she and others like her are getting some attention.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Wilford B Wolf on June 12, 2012, 09:29:23 PM
I like the name Vinyl Scratch as her real name... Still think DJ P0N-3 should be her stage name, though (reminds me of deadmau5, who I adore. :P )
Anywhoo, she is definitely my favourite reoccurring background pony. ^.^ Such a cool design.

i couldnt agree more on all accounts
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Snapdragon on June 12, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
So...they're continuing to use the names bronies have come up with as the ponies' official names?  :huh:

Yeeeeeah, cuz that worked out so well last time! ;) I'm wondering why a big ol' company is suddenly bucking policy and is using names that they didn't come up with themselves - what happens if someone trademarks a "fandom" name before they do?
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Opalescence on June 12, 2012, 09:44:46 PM
Too much fanon becoming canon these days for my tastes.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: hathorcat on June 13, 2012, 01:59:28 AM
Well I guess she was always likely to get a name as she has a confirmed TRU release in the big collectors set and I much prefer Vinyl Scratch over the silly DJ pony thingie name :P! And it does seem a nice fitting name for her "career" not something completely Hasbro random.

They are picking up on the ponies adult fans like - Lyra, Trixie, Sunny Rays [if Bon Bon doesnt make an appearance in the next couple of waves I will be stunned!] etc - so perhaps it was inevitable that along with manufacturing the ponies that are popular they would simply run with the names fans are calling the self same ponies [especially on adult merch which is what this event was all about after all - no point manufacturing product for adult fans who call the pony Vinyl Scratch and then renaming her Musical Sparkle on the merch] . Lyra and Sunny Rays are fan sourced names as well arent they? I could be wrong on that though. Or maybe after 30 years and thousands of different ponies, Hasbro have simply run out of name ideas...
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Taxel on June 13, 2012, 02:04:35 AM
Too much fanon becoming canon these days for my tastes.

This. She was fine being DJ-P0N3 in canon. Though this is one of the few I don't mind that badly, since she was already made canon with a fanon name but it didn't really fit with Hasbro names.

I'm just sick of bronies and their fanon taking over MLP entirely. But if Hasbro wants to ignore all non-brony fans, fine with me. I'll ignore Hasbro's products. If my business doesn't matter to them, their products don't matter to me.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Heliodor on June 13, 2012, 02:12:12 AM
Too much fanon becoming canon these days for my tastes.
This.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Tenar on June 13, 2012, 04:21:18 AM
So they should come up with a different name just to mess with fans?  I'm confused on the outrage about it being a name that fans came up with.  It seems to me most of the names of background pony's names are voted on over at the MLP wiki which anyone could participate in.

Edit:  I'm also pretty sure that this merchandise is aimed at the "brony" audience so of course it is going to appeal to them with those fan-fav ponies.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: RAMChYLD on June 13, 2012, 04:47:07 AM
Too much fanon becoming canon these days for my tastes.
Agreed. I'm wishing Hasbro would at least think of their core customers- the true collectors- once more.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: OctoberFlash on June 13, 2012, 05:48:17 AM
I don't understand what everyone's upset about. Vinyl Scratch is a cool name to me, and unlike the unnamed-gray-pegasus, her name isn't offensive (or at least, I don't see anything wrong with it. :) )

I can understand being upset because bronies are getting attention from Hasbro.. it bothers me a bit too, but I figured whatever Hasbro does happens, we can't really do a whole lot about it.

All I know is, I'll definitely be getting that set that has Vinyl in it once it comes out x3
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: antlercat on June 13, 2012, 05:59:45 AM
I honestly don't get why it's such a bad thing that the fanon is being accounted for.
There's nothing wrong with the name Vinyl Scratch. It's cute, it fits the pony, and let's be honest, it's a very "pony-ish" name...

Like it or not: the "bronies" are bringing attention to My Little Pony in a big way, and they're being noticed more than they have in years. Surely having less to be excited about/less to collect would be worse than, oh, a name...?

Hmm. Sorry if this is short, but I truly do not see what the issue is. Yes, some fans can go to the extreme, but...is it really something to get so het up about?
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Heliodor on June 13, 2012, 06:00:34 AM
I can't speak for all, but I think the dislike comes from brony fandom having sway over Hasbro when Hasbro has ignored collectors for years. I would not say the influence is especially good either. Many distressing things have occurred. I would like it better if Vinyl Scratch had her/his own name that was not copied & pasted from (sometimes not that great) fan sources. I can't think of good names easily, but there are many other possibilities. Hasbro could easily choose another name. This just panders to bronies once again. Why not some other name? I love this pony's design, so I will probably get a figure of her eventually, but the news doesn't please me.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: antlercat on June 13, 2012, 06:03:25 AM
Okay, then I understand that - I wasn't aware of Hasbro's previous ignorance.
That said...they are a big company after all, and I guess they see that the Brony community, as it were, are willing to spend massive amounts of money on what they consider to be "their" ponies, so maybe that's why. They are a business after all :(
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: ponylady on June 13, 2012, 06:03:37 AM
Sooo back on topic.
 
I don't care what they name her because I am going to own her either way.  I would love to see her in FS size too!!
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: antlercat on June 13, 2012, 06:05:29 AM
All due respect: I was on topic. Stating my opinion on the topic. :)
But - yeah, I would like to buy her too, if she makes it to the UK.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: ZettaMomo on June 13, 2012, 06:20:48 AM
Sooo back on topic.
 
I don't care what they name her because I am going to own her either way.  I would love to see her in FS size too!!
A FS one of her would be nice!
I wonder if it would include accessories like DJ Headphones! Or removable glasses.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: ponylady on June 13, 2012, 06:22:43 AM
Sooo back on topic.
 
I don't care what they name her because I am going to own her either way.  I would love to see her in FS size too!!
A FS one of her would be nice!
I wonder if it would include accessories like DJ Headphones! Or removable glasses.
And a bunch of little records!!!
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: sweetstuff on June 13, 2012, 07:55:34 AM
The name doesn't mean much to me, and I don't follow all those brony sites (nor do I get all this cannon stuff).

The reason I would buy him/her? Because everytime I see him/her it reminds me of Majesty!
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on June 13, 2012, 08:43:20 AM
Eugh, this is one of those fan names that I really don't like.  'Vinyl Scratch' is a phrase that make me think of a very specific, unpleasant, sound... You guessed it, someone dragging a needle across a record.  It just makes me shudder.  I don't want pony names to make me shudder.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Wilford B Wolf on June 13, 2012, 08:48:31 AM
considering the name randomizer that they have been using for the blindbags...id much rather see a well thought out FAN made name used since...lets face it this pony IS being made for the fans...but even if she wasnt..wouldnt it still be better from a buisness sense to use something everyone has either seen or hearfd than useing the name randomizer?

besides dj pon3 is not really something that works well....its a great stage name but not much beyond that


lol but scratching records is what modern dj's do..its about HOW they do it....
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Evening_Moonstone on June 13, 2012, 08:56:33 AM
Agreed. I'm wishing Hasbro would at least think of their core customers- the true collectors- once more.
I thought the "core customers" were little girls...

IMO, I think it's great that they're using some of the names that the fans came up with.  It shows that they've got their finger on the pulse of the fans who are driving this direction of the merch.  It's not like there was a competing "collector" name for this pony, and they're choosing one group of adult fans over another group of adult fans.

Look at how many pony toys they're making.  How many of those have any sort of reference to the brony group?  Lyra, Vinyl Scratch, the Comic-Con pony... and that's about it.  Versus how many ponies are just plain ponies - aside from the Mane 6, the CMC, and Celestia, most of the brushable ponies don't even appear in the show.  I think they're giving something to *all* the fans of ponies.  Some for the bronies, and plenty for the collectors.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Pinkie21 on June 13, 2012, 09:18:37 AM
So...they're continuing to use the names bronies have come up with as the ponies' official names?  :huh:

Yeah, that's what bugs me about this gen.  I don't know if Hasbro just doesn't want to mess with creating their own names, or what, but I really wish they'd stop with the "what bronies say becomes canon" thing.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on June 13, 2012, 09:32:38 AM
*ducks flying fakies* 

I actually thought Vinyl Scratch *was* her Hasbro name and DJPON3 or whatever was the fanon moniker.  I think it's much more in the style of G1 naming...  especially if she possibly could come with accessories like have been mentioned above. 
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: STLGusty on June 13, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
*ducks flying fakies* 

I actually thought Vinyl Scratch *was* her Hasbro name and DJPON3 or whatever was the fanon moniker.  I think it's much more in the style of G1 naming...  especially if she possibly could come with accessories like have been mentioned above. 


Don't feel bad - I didn't know that either!  I thought it was the other way around... Heh.  Shows how much I pay attention to the latest naming issues :)
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Koudoawaia on June 13, 2012, 10:14:13 AM
I love it that they did go with the Vinyl Scratch name. I always liked it a lot more than DJ Pon3 which feels awkward to read for me every time I see it.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: BrightIdea on June 13, 2012, 10:31:08 AM
Yay,  the DJ Pony having a name is nice.


I have to wonder if legal issues could arise from Hasbro using fan names. Couldn't the original person who thought up "Vinyl Scratch" claim it was their idea and look to get some money from Hasbro?


Vinyl Scratch is a nice name though.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: saikune on June 13, 2012, 10:38:26 AM
I don't really see the big deal about Hasbro using brony-made names. -shrug- Then again I also like that certain grey pegasus's meme-based-name so I dunno... I certainly prefer the sound of "Vinyl Scratch" rather than "DJ PON-3." Sounds more pony-ish. And it's not like brony favorites are the only ponies being made, it's just a small portion out of all the non mane 6 ponies so it is fine with me. c:
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: SurfStar on June 13, 2012, 11:03:03 AM
Sooo back on topic.
 
I don't care what they name her because I am going to own her either way.  I would love to see her in FS size too!!

I'd love her in FS with removable glasses! How awesome would that be?
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: ZettaMomo on June 13, 2012, 11:06:36 AM
Sooo back on topic.
 
I don't care what they name her because I am going to own her either way.  I would love to see her in FS size too!!

I'd love her in FS with removable glasses! How awesome would that be?
I wonder what color her eyes would be?
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Phekzhen on June 13, 2012, 11:11:52 AM
I have to wonder if legal issues could arise from Hasbro using fan names. Couldn't the original person who thought up "Vinyl Scratch" claim it was their idea and look to get some money from Hasbro?

For argument's sake, let's pretend I first named her Vinyl Scratch. If I never filed copyright for the name, there's nothing I can do about it. But I can't copyright the name to that specific pony, since the pony was on the HUB's show. The design of the character wasn't created by me, so I can't copyright it.

But I COULD copyright the name Vinyl Scratch, but have that be the name of something completely different, like a clothe's line, or a website. That's why his name is Big McIntosh, not Big Mac.

G1 and G2 were before the internet, so the only tangible way to hear back from fans were via sales. G3 could be discussed online, but it didn't get as big as G4. Bronies are everywhere, and they brought MLP to a level it's never reached before. Bronies are a space between young children and adult collectors, and they're a new market.

Hasbro is taking advantage of this market (and the money it has) by doing the Collector's Line at TRU. If you're not a fan of the show, then the Collector's Line will have almost 0 meaning to you other then it's another toy to buy. TRU is also going to have the Pony Friends Forever line, which is just rereleases with accessories, which little kids and collectors who love accessories will go after.

Yes, it's a shame that Hasbro didn't work with collectors and give them a lot of products that were created just for them, but that's because times have changed. Consumers are much more likely to let companies know what they want, and companies are now much more likely to listen.

If you want to be heard (collectors), interact with Hasbro in ways other than buying their products. Share with their Facebook page what you're making, what toys you like. Create fan art and show the world that you love MLP as a collector. Hasbro can't hear you if you stay in only one small corner of the internet.


Sooo back on topic.
 
I don't care what they name her because I am going to own her either way.  I would love to see her in FS size too!!

I'd love her in FS with removable glasses! How awesome would that be?
I wonder what color her eyes would be?


They're purple. This is a screenshot of her show Flash object. You can't get more official than that!
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Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: saply on June 13, 2012, 11:16:52 AM
My only complaint with the name is it has too many consonants XD But using it makes things less confusing anyways because she's already been referred to by that name for months.

I don't understand how using a "brony" name is a huge affront to collectors though? Did all of the collectors come up with a different name for her that was ignored in favour of Vinyl Scratch?
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: QueenStarglow on June 13, 2012, 11:21:31 AM
I'm excited for the toy versions of come of the more fun characters from the show! Not sure why people think she looks androgynous. She's got a cute punk-inspired haircut. Short hair isn't androgynous imo.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: hyenacub on June 13, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
It actually took me forever to realize that P0n3 was leet speak of Pony lol  I had been pronouncing it as "PON" (rhyming with "john" "Three."  :headsmack:  I'm not a fan of leet speak so I do like Vinyl Scratch better.  Makes me think of a DJ making the scratchy sounds on the records to fit in with the songs.  And also, to make an album, they have to scratch the grooves in.  : D
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: ZettaMomo on June 13, 2012, 11:27:45 AM
Sooo back on topic.
 
I don't care what they name her because I am going to own her either way.  I would love to see her in FS size too!!

I'd love her in FS with removable glasses! How awesome would that be?
I wonder what color her eyes would be?


They're purple. This is a screenshot of her show Flash object. You can't get more official than that!
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Ooo! Thank you for sharing that. I never really payed too close attention.
I still see people debating that her eyes are more red or maroon.
I do like the shade of purple they ended up picking out. She looks a little silly without her glasses.  :P
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: BlackCurtains on June 13, 2012, 11:37:57 AM
It actually took me forever to realize that P0n3 was leet speak of Pony lol  I had been pronouncing it as "PON" (rhyming with "john" "Three."  :headsmack:

Cub, you just blew my mind. I didn't realize that either and I used to be able to read leet... many moons ago apparently.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: tsukikakushi on June 13, 2012, 11:57:14 AM
Did nobody else get the joke? I seriously just laughed my but off. If not, watch 'This is Spinal Tap', hilarious!
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: hyenacub on June 13, 2012, 12:01:01 PM
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Cub, you just blew my mind. I didn't realize that either and I used to be able to read leet... many moons ago apparently.

 :lmao:  Glad I'm not the only one!  XD
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Wilford B Wolf on June 13, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
i see  alot of...grief between brony vs collector..and i dont see the issue..is it not possible to be both?

regardless as said above..you now have a comunity big enuf to actualy GET the attention of the high ups and get some things done....theres a point in here where sooner or later some colectors need to thank the brony comunity for not only getting the attention of the high ups but getting some of the toys made....like scratch, zecora lyra...i mean..i really dont get the complaints and mud slinging..so hasbro didnt name her...big deal..hasbro doesnt always come up with good names anyway lol

at the end of the day we all like the ponys right?..

would she be any less or more of a pony with any other name...for that matter would ANY of them be different all the way back to g1 if they had a different name,,might change your memorys a bit but its not like they took say applejack and renamed her to daisy duke(roll with me here) ..i mean..ok so they did sorta do that with suprise becomeing pinkie in a sense but.....

i guess what im getting at is its not like they had named a pony one thing and had to go back and change it for the fans..instead..they made a pony based on an image and gave it a name thats easily searched on the internet and fairly well known by the fans
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Oneleo1 on June 13, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
i see  alot of...grief between brony vs collector..and i dont see the issue..is it not possible to be both?

This is a friendly reminder to not start this debate again, or this thread will be quickly locked. We are one community despite what generation we may prefer or what group we may identify with. Thanks!
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: AnnaPommes on June 13, 2012, 12:33:55 PM
that it mighty cool, but i thought her name was pon-3, like in the equestria girls song?
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: saply on June 13, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
It actually took me forever to realize that P0n3 was leet speak of Pony lol  I had been pronouncing it as "PON" (rhyming with "john" "Three."  :headsmack:

Cub, you just blew my mind. I didn't realize that either and I used to be able to read leet... many moons ago apparently.
I thought it was Pon-E at first, but in the Equestria Girls video the guy in the background calls her "DJ Pon-Three". So I guess it could go either way?

EDIT: Oh hey emuel
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: TuxAndTails on June 13, 2012, 12:44:57 PM
I really wish they would have picked a different name. Whenever I type or say "Vinyl Scratch" I hear horrible scratching noises in my head.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Tropical_Sunset on June 13, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
I really wish they would have picked a different name. Whenever I type or say "Vinyl Scratch" I hear horrible scratching noises in my head.

I'm glad I'm not the only one!
I don't care where the name originated, I just hate the sounds that the name conjures up in my mind!
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Phekzhen on June 13, 2012, 12:57:05 PM
It actually took me forever to realize that P0n3 was leet speak of Pony lol  I had been pronouncing it as "PON" (rhyming with "john" "Three."  :headsmack:

Cub, you just blew my mind. I didn't realize that either and I used to be able to read leet... many moons ago apparently.

Actually, you were pronouncing it right. That's how they said it in Equestria girls, and that's the only "canon" mention of it.

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Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Opalescence on June 13, 2012, 01:19:55 PM
that it mighty cool, but i thought her name was pon-3, like in the equestria girls song?


They named her that as a tribute to that Deadmau5 guy. Guess the times and tributes change.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: BrightSide on June 13, 2012, 01:25:30 PM
Ahh, she's gorgeous.. I *adore* her andro image, totally rocks! Although I prefer her name being DJ Pon-3. Just how I've come to think of her. XD
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Malicieuse on June 13, 2012, 01:52:58 PM
theres a point in here where sooner or later some colectors need to thank the brony comunity for not only getting the attention of the high ups but getting some of the toys made.
Oh yeah, we would be nothing without the great brony community... :/

Anyways, i'm ok with the name Vinyl Scratch. It seems more "pony-like" to me than DJ P0N-3. She is not one of my favorite characters (such a boring cutie mark) but i'm looking forward to her toy release.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: Appleseed on June 13, 2012, 02:19:25 PM
I don't think anyone has commented on the brilliant Spinal Tap reference on the poster. Seriously, it's genius!

I don't mind Hasbro using fanon names as long as they weren't PERSUADED to do it, as was the case with :muffin: Pony (whom I personally call Ditzy Doo). Bronies shouldn't force Hasbro into doing anything, but if they actually make the choice to use the name, then I don't see a problem.
Title: Re: Vinyl is here to stay!
Post by: partypony566 on June 13, 2012, 02:30:16 PM
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