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Title: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: tulagirl on June 06, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
Okay, so most of you know I am not a collector of the G4 ponies unless they are blind bag...but I enjoy the show. Also forgive me if this topic has been discussed already...I don't know this fact.
I am wondering why they are dragging this whole cutie mark story out so loooooooooong.  Do you think this next season will reveal at least one pony's cutie mark? I think it would be really good if they don't all get them at the same time..and the issues of one getting theirs verses the others not makes for some cute episodes.
Based on all of the episodes I can't really figure out what I think the cutie marks will be.  They have developed the personalities of these little baby ponies ...but they spend so much time on the storyline of the "crusade" to get the cutie mark..it throws me off on what the cutie mark should be for each pony based on their unique talents.  I feel the direction really needs to start going with the development of their individual talents and episodes to reveal this.
What do you think Applebloom's should be? She is my favorite so I am starting with her.  Also the others?  Do you feel the show is leading us to the information or away from it?   Do you think it would have really been cute if when they made the babies they had actually added Applebloom's big bow to the toy pony? I do.  Seriously, I really don't feel any of these toy ponies look like the characters enough.  The blind bags really do though.
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Eviecorn on June 06, 2012, 06:18:20 PM
I don't think they'll ever reveal them, personally.  They're doomed to wander the planet as Blank Flanks.  *"Lonely Man Theme" from Incredible Hulk plays*

Apple Bloom should already know hers ... something to do with apples.  Sweetie Belle's will be musical (bells, maybe?) As for Scoots ... well, that's a mystery.  Her G3 mark doesn't fit her personality at all.  Maybe a total change of character down the line?
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Post by: kissthethunder on June 06, 2012, 06:20:38 PM
I rather like the misadventures of the Cutie Mark Crusaders! It's just a fun plot nuance, one that I'd honestly be content with never being resolved honestly! So many other cartoons have had similar angles! I'd like to see what happens, but I don't think it'd hurt my feelings not to, part of the crusaders charm is this quest of theirs!
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: MoongazerThePony on June 06, 2012, 06:28:09 PM

Everyone says Sweetie Bell is singing, which is correct. Scootaloo is riding her scooter, and then comes Apple Bloom. She has nothing to do with apples. At all. She is a arts and crafts pony. She is able to fix up the treehouse  easily and makes Cheerilee an amazing Hearts and Hooves card. NOT APPLES!!!
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Post by: hyenacub on June 06, 2012, 06:31:36 PM
Apple bloom likes Kung Fu.  Maybe it's be a pony karate chopping an apple...
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Folly on June 06, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
They won't; it would mess up the way MLP is shown.  Remember, even if you watch them in order as new episodes air, they are shown randomly and the kids are mostly expected to just pick up on it.  That's why nothing major is ever permanently changed by an episode.  Imagine how confused you'd be if you watched the show for the first time on TV where the CMC didn't have cutie marks, and then the next time you caught it they did all of the sudden D:
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Phekzhen on June 06, 2012, 06:44:29 PM
In the talent show episode, we're pretty much told what their special talents are, but since they all refuse to focus on what they're "good" at, that's why they haven't improved yet.

Applebloom: Construction/repair
Scootaloo: Gymnastics
Sweetie Belle: Singing/voice

When we were little, we all wanted to know what we'd be when we grew up, as well as wanting to be an adult. Receiving your cutie mark is part hitting puberty and part graduating. If you've ever been the last to develop in your group/class, then you know what they feel like.

We were told by someone on staff that they are going to have an episode. I expected it to be in season 2, but that didn't happen.

I have the Pony School House Friends pony pack, and I just love Scootaloo's toy. The wings are adorable! I already had a Sweetie Belle from Pinkie and Sweetie's Sweets Boutique. Maybe they'll make a blind bag miniature pack of the CMC? If they do so when they get their cutie marks, that'd be great.


They won't; it would mess up the way MLP is shown.  Remember, even if you watch them in order as new episodes air, they are shown randomly and the kids are mostly expected to just pick up on it.  That's why nothing major is ever permanently changed by an episode.  Imagine how confused you'd be if you watched the show for the first time on TV where the CMC didn't have cutie marks, and then the next time you caught it they did all of the sudden D:


Luna is released from Nightmare Moon in a 2-part episode, and we see Luna in Luna Eclipsed and in both parts of A Canterlot Wedding. There's besides those two-parters, every other episode is self-contained, since reruns of random episodes from story arcs in G1 never had high rerun stats. Also, Pumpkin and Pound Cake are born in Baby Cakes, but we see them in the Cranky Doodle Donkey Episode. And we meet Zecora in one episode, terrified of her, but then we're friendly and look up to her in other episodes.


So I highly doubt that that's going to be true, since there's multiple instances of them permanently changing something in an episode.
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Bergamot on June 06, 2012, 06:46:30 PM
They won't; it would mess up the way MLP is shown.  Remember, even if you watch them in order as new episodes air, they are shown randomly and the kids are mostly expected to just pick up on it.  That's why nothing major is ever permanently changed by an episode.  Imagine how confused you'd be if you watched the show for the first time on TV where the CMC didn't have cutie marks, and then the next time you caught it they did all of the sudden D:

This. Children's cartoons are expected to be made as one-off adventures so that they can be aired in whatever order; therefore significant character development that carries over to other episodes isn't really encouraged. That's why journey-oriented cartoon shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender are rare.

It's kind of a shame; it would be great to see My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic develop as a cumulative story. It does what it can, at least, and there are moments in episodes that acknowledge past events.
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Folly on June 06, 2012, 07:06:13 PM
They won't; it would mess up the way MLP is shown.  Remember, even if you watch them in order as new episodes air, they are shown randomly and the kids are mostly expected to just pick up on it.  That's why nothing major is ever permanently changed by an episode.  Imagine how confused you'd be if you watched the show for the first time on TV where the CMC didn't have cutie marks, and then the next time you caught it they did all of the sudden D:


Luna is released from Nightmare Moon in a 2-part episode, and we see Luna in Luna Eclipsed and in both parts of A Canterlot Wedding. There's besides those two-parters, every other episode is self-contained, since reruns of random episodes from story arcs in G1 never had high rerun stats. Also, Pumpkin and Pound Cake are born in Baby Cakes, but we see them in the Cranky Doodle Donkey Episode. And we meet Zecora in one episode, terrified of her, but then we're friendly and look up to her in other episodes.


So I highly doubt that that's going to be true, since there's multiple instances of them permanently changing something in an episode.
The cakelets, Zecora, and Luna's first appearances can be seen sort of as flashbacks if you're not watching in order, though.  If you randomly see and episode with Zecora in it, and THEN see her first episode, it works as something of an expansion on the character.  She works fine without it.  Luna is the only case I can think of where they do something that wouldn't make perfect sense out of context, and even then they still do a good job of making sure you can sort of put together who she is if you don't already know.


If the CMC were randomly jumping around between cutie marks and no cutie marks, anybody would wonder what the heck was going on.
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Phekzhen on June 06, 2012, 07:12:57 PM
If the CMC were randomly jumping around between cutie marks and no cutie marks, anybody would wonder what the heck was going on.

What if the "final episode" or something has it? Or they do a TV movie on it? I do remember it being announced that they ARE going to get them, one of these days.
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Folly on June 06, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
If the CMC were randomly jumping around between cutie marks and no cutie marks, anybody would wonder what the heck was going on.

What if the "final episode" or something has it? Or they do a TV movie on it? I do remember it being announced that they ARE going to get them, one of these days.
Ooooh, I'd LOVE to see a TV movie centered around the CMC!  That would be super cool.
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Phekzhen on June 06, 2012, 07:37:47 PM
Ooooh, I'd LOVE to see a TV movie centered around the CMC!  That would be super cool.

Dear sweet Celestia, what if they all try potion making as a special talent (since Applebloom is decent enough at it) and they accidentally make Smooze instead?

That would be a fantastic movie, then they can do nods to tons of stuff from G1.
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Post by: kissthethunder on June 06, 2012, 07:51:42 PM
Ooooh, I'd LOVE to see a TV movie centered around the CMC!  That would be super cool.

Dear sweet Celestia, what if they all try potion making as a special talent (since Applebloom is decent enough at it) and they accidentally make Smooze instead?

That would be a fantastic movie, then they can do nods to tons of stuff from G1.

I support the return of SMOOZE
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Post by: keikokukien on June 06, 2012, 08:14:17 PM
Personally, I think Apple Bloom is a small nod towards those in the community that can give life to old ponies. I know it's a long shot answer. XD Just one of those thoughts that popped up while watching the episode where they fix up that tree house. She could be an interior decorator, a future art teacher pony, or maybe something like a restorer or sorts. She makes treasure from little or nothing. :) I'm sure Scootaloo will be like a one-pony delivery system. Sweetie Belle does seem like a singer/performer.

But...have to agree with Folly a bit. My sister started watching FiM during the second half of the Chaos episodes and I just happened to be walking past the kitchen and heard them scream something like "everypony!" and I was like "Hold up, what?" Walked in there and watched the episode and we were BOTH hooked! Did not even know what the rest of the series consisted of until the next week when we (finally) found the Hub channel again. For kids, something as short as a 30 minute cartoon really is like a magic trick--it either works or it doesn't. FiM worked really really well. Part of that is because of the continuity of character identity. Well, with a few exceptions. ^^; I'm sure if we all came in during an episode where Luna was a good personality (as she is now) and then jumped back in during the Nightmare Moon episodes, we would either be confused or look into it. The same goes for the CMC storyline. But it really would be something to look forward to if they -did- get their cutie marks! :D Maybe one day we will get a short film or something, but probably not within the show.

Edit: Yes! Smooze! :D Would be pretty cool to see the "modern" take on smooze.
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Post by: Wilford B Wolf on June 06, 2012, 09:59:08 PM
i said it somewhere else but i dont remember where

as for them and there cutie marks..without them they are always exploring trying and well..being kids and enjoying life..they arnt "stuck" with what they have to be...they can always be changing...think of it this way..what if you could go back to that innocent time and just enjoy life and not care what roads you take and how long your on them..your a kid forever even if you do grow up...they are a band of cute kids enjoying the time they have..let them imagine and crusade forever...honestly i think them getting theyre cutie marks would pretty well end theyre cutness..theyre innocence ...and so on

i could speculate on marks...but i think we all know the obvious answers..
applebloom would have a nurtured blooming apple tree or something along those lines
scoots..sigh..a speed demon on a scooter...so it would be a scooter related mark

sweetiebell is trikier..it would be something glamourus like rarity but more shop orientated....bell as in bell of the ball..so it would be a dress of some sort..something rarity could only dream of

id love to make up some wild ideas..about scoots out racing her idol dashie...or apple bloom working magic with apple acres but...i would be here all night cause i love scoots
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: Mermaid on June 06, 2012, 11:07:49 PM
I would DIE if they brought back the smooze. It would be the BEST thing ever!
Title: Re: G4 Story direction on cutie marks? What are your ideas?
Post by: tulagirl on June 07, 2012, 07:06:11 AM
Very interesting. I had not thought of the fact that cartoons rarely continue stories from one episode to the other.  That makes a lot of sense.  I don't think that means they will not explore them getting their cutie marks though.  I guess we will find out.  I don't think kids look at shows like fans do anyway.  They probably wouldn't care if they did or did not  know something that happened in episode 4 of season 2.  They just take things at face value for whatever it is.  If they like it they will sit through it, if its only "ok" they will do somthing else when its on.  Sometimes I forget that these shows are just cartoons....just that....
One thing I have always disliked about the Simpsons is that the kids just stay the same all of the time...episode after episode after episode.  Yet this cartoon has been very sucessful and it really never progressed its characters.  Its so true that this doesn't happen in cartoons often.  I guess my brain just likes things to be resolved...as in life kids grow up and make decisions on what they want to be, but in the cartoon world they stay little and never grow. Ha
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Post by: hathorcat on June 07, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
Yes, I think the points are right that its going to be stretched and stretched and stretched - for the target audience character development wont work as episodes have to stand alone and be easily mixed up in repeat schedules.

But I do love some of the suggestions for symbols and I hope maybe a tv special at the end of the seasons could be about them getting their symbols.
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Post by: BrightSide on June 07, 2012, 01:30:47 PM
I think perhaps their talents would be their cutie marks.. which seems to be the logical path.

Scootaloo would have a scooter. I know it's obvious, but c'mon.. :drunk:

Sweetie Belle would get a microphone and Applebloom would get a paintbrush (and paint can?).

But they won't reveal them, most probably.. it'd kind of spoil the concept of CMC.
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