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Title: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 29, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
According to the facebook page for the Royal wedding invite, Princess Cadance is Celestia's niece and Shining Armor is Twilight's brother o.o A brother we didn't know about till recently.. So this will make Twilight and Celestia related by marriage of sorts...

My question... Where are these Nieces and Nephews coming from on Celestia's side? We know about Blue Blood being Celestia's Nephew (non-winged uni) and now it's confirmed that Candance is related to Celestia... So what unknown siblings -does- Celestia and Luna have to even have Nieces and Nephews :| I also find it funny that they only say it's Celestia's Niece/Nephew but never say Luna, unless they are somehow Luna's kids :| but that is impossible too!
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Salli on March 29, 2012, 09:14:55 AM
I'm confused/curious too, I hope they explain it on the wedding episode.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 29, 2012, 09:37:46 AM
Knowing them... they won't. They never explained Blue Blood so I doubt they'll explain Cadance
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: ShortyBoo on March 29, 2012, 09:40:52 AM
The should have just called her Celestia's cousin or something. Because, yeah, unless Celestia and Luna have an older brother or sister that has never been shown (although, I guess their parents were never shown, either, so I guess it's possible) it doesn't make sense for her to have a niece.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 29, 2012, 10:57:41 AM
Well they never got into more detail about Celestia... Luna at least has some sort of back story... Celestia not so much... so the idea for the random relatives makes me go 'huh?'

then again little kids don't ask these questions XD
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: teresat on March 29, 2012, 11:03:22 AM
Well they never got into more detail about Celestia... Luna at least has some sort of back story... Celestia not so much... so the idea for the random relatives makes me go 'huh?'

than again little kids don't ask these questions XD

Yes, all so true! I've watched the shows over and over again (with the kids of course) and I keep wondering if I missed something. I know I get confused easily so I thought it was my fault. Guess not; it's just that they haven't explained it yet! XD
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: saply on March 29, 2012, 11:06:06 AM

Some asked about BlueBlood before.

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Cadence and he are probably in the same boat. :P
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 29, 2012, 11:10:18 AM

Some asked about BlueBlood before.

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Cadence and he are probably in the same boat. :P
Well that explains a little more at least XD
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: teresat on March 29, 2012, 11:41:01 AM
Thanks Saply!

Reminds me of chasing the leaves on our family tree....
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Dragonflitter on March 29, 2012, 12:09:48 PM
When you've lived for 1,000 years, who knows what your family tree might end up looking like >.>;
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 29, 2012, 01:10:40 PM
When you've lived for 1,000 years, who knows what your family tree might end up looking like >.>;
XD Lol that is too true too!
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: kittybethy on March 29, 2012, 01:37:46 PM
Wow!! Very informative reading!
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Flickerswift on March 29, 2012, 01:52:08 PM
Yeah, I wish the show would be a little less random with the suddenly appearing families. Ponies! Why do you make no sense!?
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Malicieuse on March 29, 2012, 02:20:04 PM
Yeah, I wish the show would be a little less random with the suddenly appearing families. Ponies! Why do you make no sense!?

Erm, i don't think it's that wierd.  It's not as if the complete family tree of each character should be explained in the very first episode they appear in. XP Frankly, i like that they keep on expanding the families.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Flickerswift on March 29, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
Yeah, I wish the show would be a little less random with the suddenly appearing families. Ponies! Why do you make no sense!?

Erm, i don't think it's that wierd.  It's not as if the complete family tree of each character should be explained in the very first episode they appear in. XP Frankly, i like that they keep on expanding the families.

Eh! I forgot to change that to "Royal family members" instead of just "families" when I posted it. Sorry. Heh, anyway, what I really meant was the way they're creating the royal family, and how they've had to edit it because Hasbro tells them to, just makes it all seem funny. Any other pony's family showing up is cool.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 29, 2012, 04:33:23 PM
What really gets me is Shining Armor... How did no one even know about him till now? I mean we would have/should have known a little something more before now :hmm:
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: scarletjul on March 29, 2012, 05:08:59 PM
Yeah, I wish the show would be a little less random with the suddenly appearing families. Ponies! Why do you make no sense!?

I've watched soap operas (none currently, though) so this doesn't bother me - they're always introducing new family members that have never been mentioned before.  :)

The fact that Twilight never mentioned Shining Armor before bothers me slightly more but hopefully they'll explain that in the episode - though I don't expect them to do so.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Sunset on March 29, 2012, 05:23:23 PM
What really gets me is Shining Armor... How did no one even know about him till now? I mean we would have/should have known a little something more before now :hmm:

This doesn't bother me in the least.  I have brothers who live out of town.  I don't go running around talking about them all the time either.  I am presuming that Twilight *has* mentioned her brother to her friends before, just not during the show.  Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy haven't mentioned their families either but I don't presume that to mean that they are both orphans.  The one time that we have seen part of Twilight's family (the day she was being tested for magic) was in a situation in which it would make perfect sense that a sibling wouldn't be present.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Eviecorn on March 29, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
When you've lived for 1,000 years, who knows what your family tree might end up looking like >.>;

I was JUST going to say that.  The family tree is pretty broad by this point, so who knows just how many are out there?
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Taxel on March 29, 2012, 05:47:30 PM
What really gets me is Shining Armor... How did no one even know about him till now? I mean we would have/should have known a little something more before now :hmm:

This doesn't bother me in the least.  I have brothers who live out of town.  I don't go running around talking about them all the time either.  I am presuming that Twilight *has* mentioned her brother to her friends before, just not during the show.  Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy haven't mentioned their families either but I don't presume that to mean that they are both orphans.  The one time that we have seen part of Twilight's family (the day she was being tested for magic) was in a situation in which it would make perfect sense that a sibling wouldn't be present.

This! So much, this!

I keep seeing people complain about Twilight never mentioning her brother so it makes no sense, but that complaint is the real thing that makes no sense. I don't know anyone whose sibling(s) are a main focal point of their life if they don't live together or are twins or some other circumstance like that. Plus not everyone even likes their siblings. Based on the preview I saw Twilight loves her brother, even though that still means she's not required to have him as a huge focal point in her life. Even siblings who love each other don't necessarily bring each other up all the time.

I'm also sure that Twilight has spoken to her friends about her family, like Sunset mentioned, but there has so far been absolutely no reason for him to come up during an episode.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 29, 2012, 06:18:33 PM
When you've lived for 1,000 years, who knows what your family tree might end up looking like >.>;

I was JUST going to say that.  The family tree is pretty broad by this point, so who knows just how many are out there?

Yeah, my headcanon is that she had loads and loads and loads of nieces and nephews, although none of them are very "strongly" related to her anymore.  (52 times removed.)   I've been assuming Fleur (Fancy Pants' friend) is a niece of Celestia.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 29, 2012, 06:21:42 PM
What really gets me is Shining Armor... How did no one even know about him till now? I mean we would have/should have known a little something more before now :hmm:

This doesn't bother me in the least.  I have brothers who live out of town.  I don't go running around talking about them all the time either.  I am presuming that Twilight *has* mentioned her brother to her friends before, just not during the show.  Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy haven't mentioned their families either but I don't presume that to mean that they are both orphans.  The one time that we have seen part of Twilight's family (the day she was being tested for magic) was in a situation in which it would make perfect sense that a sibling wouldn't be present.
This! So much, this!

I keep seeing people complain about Twilight never mentioning her brother so it makes no sense, but that complaint is the real thing that makes no sense. I don't know anyone whose sibling(s) are a main focal point of their life if they don't live together or are twins or some other circumstance like that. Plus not everyone even likes their siblings. Based on the preview I saw Twilight loves her brother, even though that still means she's not required to have him as a huge focal point in her life. Even siblings who love each other don't necessarily bring each other up all the time.

I'm also sure that Twilight has spoken to her friends about her family, like Sunset mentioned, but there has so far been absolutely no reason for him to come up during an episode.
Sorry if it seemed like a complaint, it wasn't meant to be taken that way. Mostly I'm reflecting off of some other statements I've seen elsewhere. No a sibling doesn't need to be a focal point in someone's life but I'm more analytical now than I used to be and it was just something that crossed my mind as I always assumed Twilight was an only child.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Starbright on March 29, 2012, 07:51:01 PM
I...

But...

A niece or nephew is by definition your sibling's child.

Your parent's niece or nephew would be your cousin.

Unless I have misunderstood something...Hasbro, you keep using these words and I don't think they mean what you think they mean.

Heck, maybe they just call cousins nieces/nephews in Equestria. O.o
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Dragonflitter on March 30, 2012, 08:49:58 AM
Well remember it's been said that Blue Blood is a "nephew many times removed." The same could be true for Cadance.

I've only seen 'removed' in terms of cousins before, but it denotes that you're talking about a different generation than your own.

For example, in my family my mother has a sister, Sue, she's my aunt. She has a daughter Julie. Julie is my cousin.

Julie's two daughters, Annie and Debbie, are my cousins, once removed. They're one generation away from me. If Annie and Debbie have kids, those are my cousins, twice removed.

If *I* ever have kids, Julie's kids and my kids would be "second cousins" to each other. Not 'removed', because they're the same generation.


So if Celestia is really over 1,000 years old, I think it would make sense for her to have nephews/nieces many times removed. Probably from really old family members from hundreds of years ago lol.
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Starbright on March 30, 2012, 10:56:37 AM
I can't wrap my head around it, because a niece/nephew a generation "removed" is your cousin. My mother's brother's daughter is my mother's niece, but she is my cousin. My grandmother's brother's son is her nephew, but he is my twice-removed cousin. So Blueblood and Cadence would be Celestia and Luna's distant many-times-removed cousins, in my figuring. But I guess cousin didn't sound as good as niece/nephew.

Oh, whatever. XD If two earth ponies can have twins that are a unicorn and pegasus, Equestria geneaology is not necessarily going to make sense and I don't wanna break my brain over it, haha. :)
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: Dragonflitter on March 30, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
lol true dat
Title: Re: So Princess Cadance is Princess Celestia's niece?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on March 30, 2012, 05:15:32 PM
Ok -now- my brain hurts XD
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