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Title: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: hopelessfem29 on March 03, 2012, 03:28:45 PM
So after struggling to get 8 year old permanent marker off a friend of mine tells me after painting my first custom to use a dry erase marker go over the perm with it and wipe off with a damp paper towel or the likes the dry erase breaks down the perm and it comes off cleanly.... thought i would share i know others have this problem... and yes it does work i just tried it , the color of the dry erase does not matter, have at it all. happy customizing!
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on March 03, 2012, 03:31:33 PM
Do you have any before/after shots?  This would be pretty useful, I wonder if it'd work on highlighter as well. Gonna recommend only testing on absolutely trashed bait ponies though.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Oneleo1 on March 03, 2012, 03:50:40 PM
I agree, we need before and after shots :)
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Whoa1234 on March 03, 2012, 03:52:32 PM
I have the perfect pony to try this on!!!!
 :D

(e)
So, this didn't work for me :(

I used my trashed G1 princess Moondust.

I tried two different brands of dry erase marker and a wet towel and a wet paper towel.
I even put fresh sharpie on her and it didnt remove that either.
The perm marker didn't budge. :/

Someone else try this too!
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: JessicaAFM on March 03, 2012, 04:19:37 PM
I wonder if you have to let it sit for a bit first. Seems to me that if there is some sort of chemical reaction it might take a bit.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 03, 2012, 08:23:42 PM
Or maybe whatever ink was used on that Moondust is stronger. One of those industrial-strength super heavy duty markers.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: cloud_weaver on March 03, 2012, 08:32:14 PM
I'm not quite sure how the dry erase marker would remove permanent marker that has been sitting for years.  Mind you, I'm not a chemist or anything, but it would seem to me that after the ink has stained the plastic, it's no longer a matter of breaking down the ink, because the plastic itself has become discolored.

Maybe if you catch it in time...  I know my sons colored on my floor the other day with some permanent markers and I caught them doing it.  I grabbed my magic eraser and it came right up.  However, I know from experience that a magic eraser won't touch a stain once it's been allowed to sit for a while.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: MsTwilight on March 03, 2012, 08:42:18 PM
I use a cotton ball soaked in bleach then sunlight to help it fade. Nothing else seems to work. :(



Side note: I hate my Goodwill's pricing system! Why must they use sharpie on everything!  :cry:
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: rybett on March 03, 2012, 08:44:55 PM
DD wrote on stuff with a sharpie.  A worn dollar bill and some scrubbing took it off. 
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Icecrystalline on March 04, 2012, 02:50:31 AM
I hope we can get an answer to this, i am dying to know! xxx
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: mlp4me on March 04, 2012, 05:25:02 AM
Yes, before and after shots are appreciated.
Dry erase marker will take dried sharpie off of white boards, but if the marker has bled into the plastic of the pony... I don't know, I'm a skeptic... lol
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: hopelessfem29 on March 08, 2012, 08:17:02 PM
 mine are cheapies though  from  dollar tree and dollar general, it dosent work well on black ive learned but did work on my hot pink sharpie ive found that useing a dry erase color close to that of the perm works a little bit better , if all ealse fails i pull out my trusty handy dandy magic eraser, as soon as i get my camera back from my daughter (she keeps "forgeting" it at school) ill add pics of my custom (midnight blossom).  also a side note i did not get told that it would work till after i painted , but i have tried it since i was told, as i said above try geting a color close to what your trying to remove, ive heard it only works on fairly recent sharpie....
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: kittybethy on March 08, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
I would love to know how this works!
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: babystarz on March 08, 2012, 09:29:16 PM
I'm assuming that this works well for surface stains, but anything that has managed to bleed into the plastic over time probably will not be removed.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: toralei on March 08, 2012, 09:31:02 PM
Okay, because I've seen some people mention it in the thread- how do you get your magic eraser to work? i got one recently and i think i'm doing something wrong... ((sorry if this is threadjacking  :P ))
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: HavACrumpet452 on March 08, 2012, 09:57:21 PM
I used three different brands of dry erase marker and none of them worked. I used a pony with old sharpie on the feet and I used a fakie with fresh sharpie marks I made to try this. not only did the dry erase marker not work, but then I had to use acetone to get the dry erase marker off because it was sticking. Fail. The only way I know to get sharpie off is sunfading.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on March 09, 2012, 07:33:42 AM
I definitely think that trying to remove marker stains by putting MORE ink on the vinyl is NOT really going to help much.  It'll probably do a lot more damage than good.  :(   

I could understand how if the marker was recent, the other marker's ink could be used to "re-moisten" the old ink and make it more liquid, but certainly not on older marks.  Which would be most of them, since most people don't catch their kids in the act of drawing on their ponies. 

So put down the dry erase marker and pick up a roll of tin foil.  :-p  You'll actually get some results, albeit in a few months. 
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on March 09, 2012, 11:43:46 AM
It actually is possible to remove the original particles of permanent marker.  Note, I say *particles* and not *pigment*.


The problem with markers is two fold - they deposit surface ink/carrier and then leech into the plastic, depending on how porous it is.  This is why it's easier to remove fresh marks, and some marks on G3's come right off, while it's near impossible to get off others.


This is my current favorite cleaning tool for stubborn marks.
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This is a Colorless Blender for alcohol based markers.  Copic also sells one, so does Prismacolor, I buy mine from a fine art store.  They're ~3-8$, and contain no pigment or ink, only the solvent.  THEY WILL TAKE OFF SYMBOL/EYE PAINT, you have been warned. However, if you have almost any other kind of surface mark/stray paint, this lil' marker will take it off better than anything else I've ever tried.


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Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: prowlsgirl on March 09, 2012, 12:08:52 PM
It actually is possible to remove the original particles of permanent marker.  Note, I say *particles* and not *pigment*.


The problem with markers is two fold - they deposit surface ink/carrier and then leech into the plastic, depending on how porous it is.  This is why it's easier to remove fresh marks, and some marks on G3's come right off, while it's near impossible to get off others.


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This is a Colorless Blender for alcohol based markers.  Copic also sells one, so does Prismacolor, I buy mine from a fine art store.  They're ~3-8$, and contain no pigment or ink, only the solvent.  THEY WILL TAKE OFF SYMBOL/EYE PAINT, you have been warned. However, if you have almost any other kind of surface mark/stray paint, this lil' marker will take it off better than anything else I've ever tried.


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That's cool
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: cloud_weaver on March 09, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
Really Baby Sugarberry???  Oh my goodness I'm stocked!  I totally got my copics colorless blender last week for scrapbooking!  Must try right away!!!  :frolic:
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: HavACrumpet452 on March 09, 2012, 12:25:35 PM
Those look to me like surface marks that would have come off easily enough. Colorless blender is a mix of isoproponol, ethanol and propylene glycol methyl ether. I'm a professional cleaner and I use products that contain this stuff and they work great on pen or permanent marker on nonporous surfaces, but they have not worked for getting deep pen marks or sharpie off of a pony. I've brought ponies to work numerous times to try it. I would not recommend everybody go out and buy this thinking they will get the old sharpie off their G1's hooves this way.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: JessicaAFM on March 09, 2012, 01:47:30 PM

This is a Colorless Blender for alcohol based markers.  Copic also sells one, so does Prismacolor, I buy mine from a fine art store.  They're ~3-8$, and contain no pigment or ink, only the solvent.  THEY WILL TAKE OFF SYMBOL/EYE PAINT, you have been warned. However, if you have almost any other kind of surface mark/stray paint, this lil' marker will take it off better than anything else I've ever tried.



Don't know why I didn't think of that. I am a scrapbooker/stamper too. I wonder if the stayz on remover might work too. I am going to have to experiment.  :)
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Elisto on March 09, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
Those look to me like surface marks that would have come off easily enough. Colorless blender is a mix of isoproponol, ethanol and propylene glycol methyl ether. I'm a professional cleaner and I use products that contain this stuff and they work great on pen or permanent marker on nonporous surfaces, but they have not worked for getting deep pen marks or sharpie off of a pony. I've brought ponies to work numerous times to try it. I would not recommend everybody go out and buy this thinking they will get the old sharpie off their G1's hooves this way.
If that's the case (I have a clear blender and never thought to try) then as a cleaning supply, wouldn't it be comparable to rubbing alcohol, which is probably a lot cheaper too?
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: JessicaAFM on March 09, 2012, 02:33:59 PM

If that's the case (I have a clear blender and never thought to try) then as a cleaning supply, wouldn't it be comparable to rubbing alcohol, which is probably a lot cheaper too?


Rubbing Alcohol doesn't have the other ingredients in it. While it does work for cleaning stains, it is drying. So make sure you rinse well afterwards. When I clean my stamps, both acrylic and rubber, I make sure to re-moisturize them.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Elisto on March 09, 2012, 02:39:36 PM
Well, I do use alcohol, so I know what it does, but it can be either isopropanol or ethanol and they seem to be about equally effective, so the only thing different to me is propylene glycol methyl ether...which while I do know what those individual words mean, I don't know what that is or what it does.
Title: Re: how to remove permanent marker
Post by: Baby Sugarberry on March 09, 2012, 03:24:04 PM
Those look to me like surface marks that would have come off easily enough. Colorless blender is a mix of isoproponol, ethanol and propylene glycol methyl ether. I'm a professional cleaner and I use products that contain this stuff and they work great on pen or permanent marker on nonporous surfaces, but they have not worked for getting deep pen marks or sharpie off of a pony. I've brought ponies to work numerous times to try it. I would not recommend everybody go out and buy this thinking they will get the old sharpie off their G1's hooves this way.


If you read the intro to my post, you'll see I mentioned there are two different kinds of marks left by permanent ink/markers, and this only removes the surface stuff, not ingrained pigment.  I do find it works better than any of the single alcohols I've tried, both because it doesn't dry as fast, and also because it's exceptionally easy to control the pen in close quarters to, say, eye paint, blush or symbols.  It's also less messy and easily portable; no fears of dripping.  For heavy marks I put down a small scrap of tissue over the marking and then rub with the pen, to avoid transferring all the paint onto the nib.  For light markings I use it directly, then clean off on a piece of paper.


Never claimed it was a miracle cure for ingrained stains, so far only photo-degredation has proved effective for that.


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