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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: VanillaBean on February 20, 2012, 12:12:08 PM
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I guess I'd class myself as a fairly picky collector, but I've got my eye on a couple of ebay sales for manky ponies, & I quite fancy trying to restore them. xD
We're talking trimmed forelocks, stains, bad hair, fading, etc. A couple of them are ponies who are really high on my want list, & I can't find them in decent condition elsewhere. Plus restoring a pony back to her original glory sounds like a fun project. :)
So what would you say ruins a pony to the point of throwing out, or classing as bait?
Pictures of hopeless cases would be fun too. :silly:
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If you ask a lot of the really really talented customisers and restorers I think the answer is "never"....I have seen ponies with "new" or "fixed" everything on here...as someone with no creative talent it constantly amazes me
*Stands back and waits for the awesome before and after pics"
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I don't mind flaws, but don't often restore and instead leave them as is. I think a lot of restorers would say they're never beyond hope. However, for me personally, if the only way the pony will look even halfway decent is a FBR, new hair, and new symbols, and is fairly common (like my very brown, bald Starshine with only a faint rust outline for a symbol), then I still wouldn't describe it as "beyond hope," but not really worth it.
I don't have a picture of that one, but here's a Gingerbread that's close to my limit. She still has hair uncut, even if it's bad, and her symbols are decent even if she's discolored, so I can't bring myself to bait her although I kind of want to. She actually looks worse in person. The only problem is, I already have a nice Gingerbread and don't think anyone else wants one like this for their collection.
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I would likely not bait this
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I think it depends how far you would go personally to restore a pony. I personally *hate* re-hairing ponies, and would sell a pony with a hair cut. However a pony covered in wee with ridiculously matted hair and scuffed eyes I can do. (No pics, sorry).
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What is it with Gingerbread? I have a decapitated one on my desk upstiars in similar 'is it really worth trying to fix' condition.
But I'm tryin'!
Mine has awful red 'eyeshadow', she was originaly COATED in glitterglue, and has two rather noticeable large cancer splotches, but her hair and tail are nice and after spending so much time on her already I don't think I could bring myself to bait her. :/
Edit: Found some photos of when she first arrived. I've since taken the glitter gems off her eye, but they've left bright pink highlighted spots where their ink has soaked through -.-
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(http://www.flickr.com/photos/75410541@N03/6912449741/)
Gingerbread-Bait (http://www.flickr.com/photos/75410541@N03/6912449741/) by MissSleepless (http://www.flickr.com/people/75410541@N03/), on Flickr
It's a personal preferance, bar cancer and severe hair cuts, most things are fixable at home. Or at least bearable until you can upgrade.
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For me it's complete discolouration that means bait for me. I have a blossom who is peachy-brown with haircut and pindot. To me there is nothing that can be done/is worth doing
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I've had lots of ponies go through my hands that I've bought for bait and ended up restoring instead because when I saw them in person they just weren't that bad. But at a certain point I feel like it's not worth restoring and I'd bait the pony. For example, if she was discoloured, had cancer, missing paint, and haircut I don't think I'd be bothered restoring (assuming of course we're not talking about something really rare) but other people would be happy to take on the challenge.
I don't have a lost cause pic, but here's a success story:
Trickles before
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Trickles after
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Elf
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I think the condition of the ponies featured on the My Little Pony Preservation project before and after their restorations is pretty amazing most of the time! I personally wouldn't even attempt to restore a pony with actual body parts missing, but it's possible and people do it with perfect-looking results. So really, the sky is the limit :P There is something very satisfying about cleaning a pony inside and out, fixing her hair and making her look lovely :)
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I think it only depends on how far you want to go and what your personal limits are. Missing pieces, tears, etc wouldn't stop me if I was inclined to restore, like I did with Bunny Hop-
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I see a lot of ponies classified as bait that I would gladly put on display in my collection. The most I can do to restore a pony is clean it up and wash the hair, so I would personally say the ones pictured in this thread are too far gone for me. I don't see ponies with messed up hair or some spots/marks or scratches on their bodies as bait though.
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when it is missing it's legs.
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What is it with Gingerbread?
i was thinking the same thing.
i always try to restore any pony before i bait it (unless i buy it for baiting from the start), especially if its a g1. i've had a couple ones come to me in crappy condition, but to me no g1 is a bait unless its missing limbs (which thankfully i have found none yet)
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Wow, that Gingerbread looks really white aside from those stains! Mine's all beige and splotchy, and even my "good" one's not that bright. And that Trickles came out amazing!
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I have one that would have been considered 'beyond hope' by many!
This is baby Moondancer, when I first got her.. she even had dead larva in her head :|
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This poor girl would have really been probably customed if she hadn't called to me when i first saw her months and months ago. Sorry for all the images but had to show the full turn around XD
By the way, for those who have seen these before, she is looking even better! I just need some new containers for her to soak in while in the sun :|
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when it is missing it's legs.
yup! I agree. Or excessive chewing or actual destruction of the plastic body.
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Wow, that Gingerbread looks really white aside from those stains! Mine's all beige and splotchy, and even my "good" one's not that bright. And that Trickles came out amazing!
That's what's making those stains so much more frustrating! xD She'll get there in the end I'm sure :)
And sd_dreamcrystal that baby is a marvel, and one of the best arguments I can think of to restore rather than bait!
And for those of you thinking chewing is unfixable...
http://mlppreservationproject.com/body.html
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I don't think it's so much that people think chewing etc is *unfixable*, but more that most people don't have the skills, supplies, time and inclination to fix it. I know people can fix up ponies gnawed beyond all recognition, like the mlp restoraiton link above, but I personally can't sculpt, so for *me*, I'd call them beyond help. If they were rare or HTF though, I'd likely find or give them to someone who could fix them. But not if it was Peachy. :P
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For me, if a pony is missing most of it's hair and most of it's paint is gone, and has big gouges on it (all of that)... or if it's a darker pony covered in sharpie and can't really take fading methods as well, I will probably bait, unless it's a rarer pony... in which case I restore. I generally give a pony a good cleaning and get a good inspection after that and decide what to do.
Here's a few recent restores:
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I really thought this pony would be bait, but after I cleaned her up and noticed how pristine her body was (only light symbol wear), I had to restore her! Now she's beautiful!
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Windy is now sitting in a peroxide bath. She'll probably get faded to white, but I don't really care. I'll likely buy her a minty sister at some point since she's cheap! But I couldn't bear to bait her.
This however is a pony I baited:
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She was free when I bought another pony for $1 at a flea market. She was covered in sharpie. It did come off her paint, but her body was beyond stained. I decided since she's pretty common and inexpensive, that I'd go ahead and give her a body repaint and give her a new life. :) I don't feel bad about it at all. She's very beautiful now! :D
Then there's this pony:
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She's got these big stains on her, her body dyed from her hair... paint rubs all over her symbols... hair cut... but the rest of her hair is beautiful. I've had her sitting here and I'm always fussing with her. I can't bear to bait her now! I need to rehair and try to fade those stains a little. XD
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I have one that would have been considered 'beyond hope' by many!
This is baby Moondancer, when I first got her.. she even had dead larva in her head :|
That is absolutely terrifying! I wold probably scream and run away :lol:
You did great work, by the way. She's so adorable!
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I have one that would have been considered 'beyond hope' by many!
This is baby Moondancer, when I first got her.. she even had dead larva in her head :|
That is absolutely terrifying! I wold probably scream and run away :lol:
You did great work, by the way. She's so adorable!
They were tiny larva XD but easy enough to remove ;) and thank you, I'm actually debating on keeping her hair or not... because well... all the work done to her has also did a number on her hair... as far as making it course and dry
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I can totally out do those Gingerbreads :P
This poor girl came from the thrift store a week or two ago, I don't even know how it happened to her, but THIS is what beyond repair looks like imo. Besides all the obvious surface dirt you see on her, her entire body has turned that sickly shade of brown.
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Roughly what color white she should be
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Annnd poor poor pooor Foamy. She's supposed to be a buttery yellow . Not so much :(
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i posted this asking if people would bait her or not, and consensus was bait... but well... she's got great hair and symbols and eyes... no paint scratches all her glitter. So now i wait for apoxie clay so i can giver her her features back! I think she will stay with me a long time sitting on my art desk reminding me that almost no pony is beyond hope.
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i was going to bait this girl... but i think i might restore her now... or at maybe just detinsle and get the 3d part of her symbol off and repaint that... that's kinda a restore? I could probably sculpt her symbol, but i dont like the 3d on her... :/
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i think on g3s im more likely to customize in not as bad shape because they are so prevelent. I have never customized a g4 though because i cant think of a reason why to redo a perfectly good pony. I like giving new life to ponies by restoring/ customizing them, so to take a new pony and redo her is just weird to me.
I will say though that i think i would customize a pony who has no hair no symbol and is in such a common pose i cant tell if it's glory or majesty. :/
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@ rhine: that foamy looks like a zombie seapony!
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@ rhine: that foamy looks like a zombie seapony!
ditto!!!! :3 kinda has a strange charm to her though!
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@ rhine: that foamy looks like a zombie seapony!
ditto!!!! :3 kinda has a strange charm to her though!
i agree. I kinda like her.
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I can totally out do those Gingerbreads :P
I ask again, what is with Gingerbread?! Seriously xD
That brown colour isn't promising is it? Discolouration sucks the hardest I think when it comes to restores.
And good on ya hlbmlp! But I will say you have your work cut out for you, but what's life without challenges? ;)
And often, extreme restores do turn into sort of half breed customs. As long as you mark up everything if you sell them, or keep 'em in your collection forever it's all good. :)
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@ rhine: that foamy looks like a zombie seapony!
ditto!!!! :3 kinda has a strange charm to her though!
i agree. I kinda like her.
xDDD Zombie Foamy! I wouldn't even have to paint her body if I used her as a custom! I seriously had the hardest time ID'ing her because she doesn't look anything like she's supposed to.
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I have one that would have been considered 'beyond hope' by many!
This is baby Moondancer, when I first got her.. she even had dead larva in her head :|
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This poor girl would have really been probably customed if she hadn't called to me when i first saw her months and months ago. Sorry for all the images but had to show the full turn around XD
By the way, for those who have seen these before, she is looking even better! I just need some new containers for her to soak in while in the sun :|
*waves to sd_dreamcrystal and Baby Moondancer* Aw, the restoration is going so well! She looks amazing and I'm so glad she's found a good home. :)
I think a pony is rarely beyond saving. Basic issues, like haircuts/dirt/cancer/mold don't bother me (I once cleaned a baby Crumpet who was black with mold inside.) The bigger problems that require rehairing or repainting are things I don't know how to do (though I plan to learn someday) but I know there are lots of talented people on the Arena who can restore almost any pony. Missing limbs do require a bit more work, though. :)
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I have one that would have been considered 'beyond hope' by many!
This is baby Moondancer, when I first got her.. she even had dead larva in her head :|
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This poor girl would have really been probably customed if she hadn't called to me when i first saw her months and months ago. Sorry for all the images but had to show the full turn around XD
By the way, for those who have seen these before, she is looking even better! I just need some new containers for her to soak in while in the sun :|
how'd you get her so WHITE???? my baby glory reaaly need whatever you did to this girl!!!
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Im wondering the same thing...I have lots of ponies I need to clean up and Im beginning to wonder what are all the great products safe to use
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when it is missing it's legs.
yup! I agree. Or excessive chewing or actual destruction of the plastic body.
That's my definition too! :)
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I'd like to say 'never', but ok, with serious damage on plastic (really bad chewing marks etc) I would probably bait a G1. But not until I've tried everything to fix it!
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I can totally out do those Gingerbreads :P
This poor girl came from the thrift store a week or two ago, I don't even know how it happened to her, but THIS is what beyond repair looks like imo. Besides all the obvious surface dirt you see on her, her entire body has turned that sickly shade of brown.
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I would try to clean her first, before deciding her body is too discolored to save...this is what the Gingerbread I posted started as.
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Wow, those are some truly amazing restorations. :)
I think I'm inspired to fix up a couple of ponies now, it must feel so good at the end.
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I can totally out do those Gingerbreads :P
This poor girl came from the thrift store a week or two ago, I don't even know how it happened to her, but THIS is what beyond repair looks like imo. Besides all the obvious surface dirt you see on her, her entire body has turned that sickly shade of brown.
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Roughly what color white she should be
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Annnd poor poor pooor Foamy. She's supposed to be a buttery yellow . Not so much :(
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If you want me to, I could probably fix her up for you, Rhini!
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I have one that would have been considered 'beyond hope' by many!
This is baby Moondancer, when I first got her.. she even had dead larva in her head :|
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This poor girl would have really been probably customed if she hadn't called to me when i first saw her months and months ago. Sorry for all the images but had to show the full turn around XD
By the way, for those who have seen these before, she is looking even better! I just need some new containers for her to soak in while in the sun :|
OMG! What did you soak her in???????????
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If it has really noticeable/a lot chew marks. Like my first Heart Throb who I have recently replaced. I plan on customizing her soon (she's gonna be a G4 to G1 Fluttershy!). The Heart Throb had chew marks all over her face and her left back leg (there is also mold inside).
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In my opinion, never! I am not good at restoring myself (I can re-paint symbols/eyes and am learning to re-hair but that's about my limit), but I am amazed at some of the restoration work I see on the internet.
when it is missing it's legs.
yup! I agree. Or excessive chewing or actual destruction of the plastic body.
If you're on Facebook, add "mylittlepony mlp". He has taken a couple of severely chewed MLPs (including a Daddy Apple Delight with both ears and part of his nose missing) and made them look as good as new. My mouth literally dropped open when I saw them...I wish I had that ability!
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This little girl is truly beyond hope to be restored to original. :cry: She can only be customized. Something bit her forehead off. :cry: And she had marker on one of her hooves. I think only her tail would be salvageable, to donate to another. I found her in a bag of toys at the thrift store and felt bad for her. I couldn't leave her behind. :cry:
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(http://s1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/thriftysnapdragon/?action=view¤t=poorpony.jpg)
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I must be pretty picky too because any marks to the body usually mean they go in the bait box. I don't mind cleaning them and taming the hair. Beyond that, they get baited. I don't feel too bad about that though because I only have g3, if it was g1s, I'd find them another home. My conscience would kill me lol:)
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When it has no face :lol:
If you ask a lot of the really really talented customisers and restorers I think the answer is "never"....I have seen ponies with "new" or "fixed" everything on here...as someone with no creative talent it constantly amazes me
*Stands back and waits for the awesome before and after pics"
This! ^^
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Or when you accidentally melted it in the oven...
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I must be pretty picky too because any marks to the body usually mean they go in the bait box. I don't mind cleaning them and taming the hair. Beyond that, they get baited. I don't feel too bad about that though because I only have g3, if it was g1s, I'd find them another home. My conscience would kill me lol:)
I have a much harder time deciding what to do with G3s that have flaws. I have a pretty high tolerance for flaws on G1s, so I can't bring myself to customize a G3 that's not terrible, but I don't really collect G3s except for a limited number, and I can't seem to get rid of the flawed ones.
Dragonsummoner, that poor baby pony! Being translucent, I don't think she could even be resculpted! If I ended up with one like that, I'd probably keep it in case I come across one that has a decent head and poor body, or sell/give it to someone who has one like that...the marker might be sun-fadeable.
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I definitely agree when the pony is missing limbs... that's where I draw the limit. :blink:
At least hair is restorable and lots of other conditions can be improved... :lol:
I LOVE to restore... (though I didn't consider any of these gals beyond hope...)
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This is the only one that I gave up on...
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There's no hope here.... lol
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This is the only one that I gave up on...
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There's no hope here.... lol
Pick me! Pick Me!!! :3
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I definitely agree when the pony is missing limbs... that's where I draw the limit. :blink:
At least hair is restorable and lots of other conditions can be improved... :lol:
I LOVE to restore... (though I didn't consider any of these gals beyond hope...)
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What was it you soaked her in to make her so white again?
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Looks like peroxide.
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That was H202/peroxide, made her hard as a rock, but nice and white. She sat out in the sun with tinfoil under the jar for almost 2 weeks. (It also changed her eyes from purple to blue...)
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Seriously Rhini, I could probably fix Gingerbread for you...
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Well, I think peroxide takes the coating off twinkle eyes, if that's what you're considering...regular sunfading is what I'd do.
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You wish kmlv23 :P
That's what I thought it looked like, but someone else had mentioned how it makes them hard and brittle, which I don't really wanna do. Plus it will ruin her eyes.
Its winter here and despite the warm temperatures there's been hardly any sun. I've been meaning to invest in an OTT light but I keep putting it off.
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You wish kmlv23 :P
That's what I thought it looked like, but someone else had mentioned how it makes them hard and brittle, which I don't really wanna do. Plus it will ruin her eyes.
Its winter here and despite the warm temperatures there's been hardly any sun. I've been meaning to invest in an OTT light but I keep putting it off.
Whaaaattt I'm being honest. :P Besides it'd give us something to talk about at the STL meetup...*HINTHINT*
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I think it only depends on how far you want to go and what your personal limits are. Missing pieces, tears, etc wouldn't stop me if I was inclined to restore, like I did with Bunny Hop-
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<3! Bunny Hop! Pretty much looks like mine I'm about to restore! (My first restoration, and one of many PP's I'm trying to love!)
Now I feel bad for baiting a tootsie with cancer, pretty much no symbol and no hairs.... I just thought no one would care about her.... *cry*
I'm sorry! I might even wash all her FBR off and restore her instead.... :yikes:
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Except for cancer, regrind and some serious cases of pindot I think all ponies can be restored with patience, time and care.
The worst case I have got is a Spanish Peach Blossom with ink, superglue and a punky haircut.
This is it before: (that thing on the body is super glue. The owner had tried as a child to make new wings for the pony and had attached them to the body with super glue!)
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And this is it after a sunbath, hot bath, rehair and a symbol repaint (the eyes I tried to keep them as original as possible):
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Bumping this topic so new collectors don't think they need to throw a pony away. Some people broke the link on their pictures though, need some new restore pics.
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Bumping this topic so new collectors don't think they need to throw a pony away. Some people broke the link on their pictures though, need some new restore pics.
Heh, I now call this behavior the pony Rickroll, and I have saved a bunch of links to restoration threads everytime the subject comes up! ;) We must save the remaining G1s! ;)
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So stalking this thread. I have 3 babies that need restoring and I'm going to at least wash them tonight and see what I'm dealing with. =]
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So stalking this thread. I have 3 babies that need restoring and I'm going to at least wash them tonight and see what I'm dealing with. =]
Show us some pictures and we'll be happy to help you out! :)
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Ok, I have a Peachy, Majesty, and Party Time. Party Time is the worst, with bad highlighter (I think...it's pink on her orange) marks all over her neck, face, and body. I will get more pics of her, close ups, so you can see what I mean. Her tail washer was badly rusted, bad enough that there was rust all over the inside of her body. There is a little rust on her tail, but it's not bad, and close enough I could trim off the bad parts and re-zip-tie it and have her original tail on her.
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Any suggestions would be great! I hate to bait her if I can help it. Peachy needs some symbol and eye touch ups, but that is no biggie. Majesty is really nice, just kinda yellowy. She needs to be re-whitened, so I was curious what you might suggest. Her symbols are near perfect, and I don't want to do peroxide on her and have her get all hard and brittle...
BTW this was pre-bath. They are all drying now on my sink drainer and looking a LOT better. =]
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Ok here are some better pictures of them:
Majesty - for some odd reason, she isn't showing up as yellow as she looks irl. Maybe it's just me. xD But either way, she is yellowed, and her head and body don't exactly match. Her symbols aren't bad, and her hair seem seems to be fine.
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Peachy - needs some symbol rework done, and has a few spots that wouldn't come up, but other than that she isn't too bad. She needs to have her hair styled, but that is easy, LOL.
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And finally, Party Time, she who needs the most help - She has fading? I think? on her neck, or a bad case of the highlighters. Pink variety. Not contagious, but still a blight that can scar and discolor a pony for far too long. She has a little tail rust, but I think I can just cut the metal part and shorten her tail a bit to get rid of the rusted part. I'm not sure yet if I will though...doesn't seem kosher.
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First, you will be amazed what will come off when you get some baking soda and mix it with water until it's pasty, then take a face cloth and gently rub the paste over the pony, scrubbing where needed, and rinsing with warm water. :)
Party Time has regrind - very common to her! Basically they shaved two batches of plastic together and then melted it and re-cast it. So the dyes start moving around and there you have it, regrind. :( So there won't be much you can do to stop the color-change - think of it as her special magical power. ;) You can alleviate the stickiness that occurs on the surface of the vinyl with Dawn or another dishwashing liquid soap.
Plenty of G1s have some kind of symbol scuff or mark - on Peachy, who is drop-dead common, it really doesn't affect her value. :) The brown spot on her is likely remnants of "pony cancer" - you can spot treat with bleach/peroxide/OxyClean, then sunfade the stain out, or sometimes lift it out of the plastic after you have sterilized the area. Keep in mind that the vinyl is porous and the cancer may be in one of the many layers beneath the surface but still visible. Or the treatment may leave a pindot "pockmark" where the vinyl pore was actually cleansed of a blockage. She looks good, though! Give her a good scrub and she'll be very pretty again.
Majesty tends to have those discoloration issues, but you can attempt to even them out with sunfading or peroxide. Tail rust is easy to treat, though. Rub some whitening toothpaste into the fibers and it will remove the rust. You may want to replace the clamp and washer too, but that's up to you. If you like styling your ponies a LOT, I'd recommend it as they will encounter water more often. Dry, display ponies in ideal storage conditions might not need it BUT it depends on your region - humidity and such.
Hope that helps!