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Title: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on April 16, 2019, 04:48:39 AM
Hi friends!

I've only been collecting for a few months (Since like Jan or Feb) but I've been keeping an eye out on Australia eBay, Etsy and Gumtree for what G1 ponies pop up and I've noticed a few lines pop up commonly.

Most prominent one's are the Sparkles ponies like Sky Rocket, Sunspot, ect and Precious Pocket ponies.

Then I've seen

1st year Collector's ponies (Complete)
Bluebelle
Blossom
Cotton candy
Butterscotch
Snuzzle
Minty

1st So Softs
Buttons
Twist

1st & 2nd TAFs
Merriweather
Munchy
Yum Yum
Up, Up and Away

Dance n' Prance ponies (In person and online)

1st Earth ponies (In person and online)
Applejack
Bow Tie
Bubbles
Seashell

1st Rainbow ponies
Parasol
Windy
Moonstone
Starshine

1st Pegasus ponies (complete)
Medley
Firefly

1st Unicorn ponies
Moondance

1st Playset ponies

Yr 2 mail order ponies (In person)
Purple Baby Ember

3rd Earth ponies
Cherries Jubilee
Posey
Lickety split

2nd Rainbow ponies
Trickles

2nd Unicorn ponies
Gusty

1st Play and Care ponies

2nd Playset ponies

1st Twinkled Eyed ponies
Fizzy
Masquerade
Galaxy
Sweet Stuff

1st Flutter ponies

Beddy Bye Eyes ponies
Sleepy Pie
Shady
Half Note
Sundance

2nd Flutter ponies

1st First Tooth Baby ponies
Bouncy

1st Newborn twin ponies
Sniffles & Sticky
Jebber & Jabber
Bunkie & Speckles
Puddles & Peeks

Magic Message ponies
Windy
Cloud Dreamer
Mirror mirror

1st Brush 'n Grow ponies
Bouquet
Braided Beauty

Sundae Best ponies (Complete)
Peppermint Crunch
Sherbet
Crunch Berry
Banana Surprise
Swirly Twirly

1st Happy Tail ponies

Peekaboo Baby ponies
Baby Noddins
Baby Snippy
Baby Graffiti

2nd Newborn Twin ponies

1st Summerwing ponies

Merry-go-round ponies
Diamond Dreams
Brilliant Blossom
Flower Bouquet
Sunny Bunch

Candy Cane ponies
Caramel Crunch
Sugar Apple
Sugar Sweet

Sunshine ponies (Complete)
Beach Ball
Shoreline
Wave Runner
Sand Digger
Seaflower
Main Sail

Perfume Puff ponies
Sweet Suds
Lavender Lace

Princess Brush 'n Grow ponies

Windy Wings ponies

Yr 7 Mail Order ponies

Baby Sparkle ponies


Tropical ponies
Hula Hula

Sweetsteps Ballerina ponies

Drink 'n Wet ponies
Noddins

Yr 8 Mail Order ponies

Rainbow Ringlet ponies
Streaky
Raincurl

Rockin' Beat ponies
Tuneful

Rainbow Baby ponies
Baby Sunribbon

Baby Ballerina ponies

Sweet Talkin' ponies
Chatterbox

Sweet Kisses ponies (Complete)
Ruby Lips
Happy Hugs
Lovin' Kisses

Paradise Baby ponies (Complete)
Baby Beach Ball
Baby Palm Tree
Baby Pineapple

Teeny Tiny Twins
Sniffles
Bootsie & Tootsie

Fancy Merbabies
Baby Pearly
Baby Sea Princess

Yr 10 Special Release ponies
Birthday Pony
Bridal Beauty

Confirmed through Toy Fair catalouge
- Rainbow Curl Ponies
- Show n' Glow Ponies
- Sweetsteps Ballerinas
- Secret Surprise Pony
- Princess Ponies (Eyelash ones)
- Pony Bride

I haven't see too many Nirvanas yet but I'll list the ones I have found later and I'll eventually list the regular ones I specifically remember.

Here's the nivanas I remember

Sleepy Time babies
Baby Sunset
Baby Moondream

Early UK ponies
Hopscotch

MLP Tales
Bon Bon
Bright Eyes
Starlight
Patch
Melody

School time ponies
Play time
Sport time

Playschool babies
Baby Alphabet
Baby Count-a-Lot

Starlight Baby ponies

Australian friends, do you know of any other ponies that were probably released here?

Edit: Added some of the ponies I've seen, I'll add more later.

Thank you.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 16, 2019, 07:45:42 AM
This is awesome info!!  Thanks!
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on April 16, 2019, 02:04:26 PM
One thing to keep in mind, especially this late in the day, are travelling ponies.

Ponies that came with families who moved into country, and also ponies that have gone back and forth across the border in online collecting over several years. If you built a list from UK ebay of ponies sold in the UK you'd get a very warped list of pony availability because so many ponies have shifted over borders in the last 20 years. The same is true for US ebay.

Not that that's a bad thing for you if it improves your availability, but it may or may not determine what was officially sold in Australia.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on April 16, 2019, 08:27:37 PM
One thing to keep in mind, especially this late in the day, are travelling ponies.

Ponies that came with families who moved into country, and also ponies that have gone back and forth across the border in online collecting over several years. If you built a list from UK ebay of ponies sold in the UK you'd get a very warped list of pony availability because so many ponies have shifted over borders in the last 20 years. The same is true for US ebay.

Not that that's a bad thing for you if it improves your availability, but it may or may not determine what was officially sold in Australia.

Yeah, I've tried my best to not include them. it's sometimes hard to determine that, but if there's been only 1 of a series seen on eBay, I'd be safe to not count them, but if there's more than one listed at different times I'd count those lines as probably released in Australia.

Like with the first Twinkled Eyed ponies, there's been like 4 Fizzy's (5 including the childhood one bought from an Australian MLPArena user) 1 Galaxy, 2 Whizzers and 2 Masquerades that I've seen on Aus eBay.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: nhal039 on April 16, 2019, 10:33:28 PM
the alt birthflowers got released there

I am 90% sure the year 8 taf babies where all hong kong releases.

I also feel the uk family ponies got released there, the did in NZ (berrytown etc)

Some Scandinavian ponies also got released in au, yellow moondancer, gusty and co. Not sure about Nss truly and cupcake
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on April 17, 2019, 05:30:54 AM
It would be genuinely awesome if someone did the legwork and put together a definitive list of Aussie releases (and perhaps NZ ones as well) as it's one of those gaps...
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: banditpony on April 17, 2019, 05:43:48 AM
Maybe it would be helpful to find some old catalogs? (I'm sure that isn't 100% but it could be useful)

20+ years of online trading does skew things. (Which doesn't account for 30+ years of people traveling w ponies)
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on April 17, 2019, 05:55:51 AM
Maybe it would be helpful to find some old catalogs? (I'm sure that isn't 100% but it could be useful)

20+ years of online trading does skew things. (Which doesn't account for 30+ years of people traveling w ponies)

I have been looking for old catalouges but there's no Australia ones online, archived or for sale, I haven't tried going to a library yet though. There might be some stuff in our state library. Maybe track down a list of 1980-1990's Australian Hasbro workers to do some calling?

Post Merge: April 17, 2019, 05:58:36 AM

It would be genuinely awesome if someone did the legwork and put together a definitive list of Aussie releases (and perhaps NZ ones as well) as it's one of those gaps...

I'm hoping to achieve that, although it'll probably be speculative for a long time. I'll try to find old employees, find vintage catalouges, go to the state library and that kind of stuff.

Post Merge: April 17, 2019, 05:59:34 AM

the alt birthflowers got released there

I am 90% sure the year 8 taf babies where all hong kong releases.

I also feel the uk family ponies got released there, the did in NZ (berrytown etc)

Some Scandinavian ponies also got released in au, yellow moondancer, gusty and co. Not sure about Nss truly and cupcake
Yeah, those have been confirmed to be released here but I've only stumbled upon 1 Alt birth flower pony online.

Idk about the TAF babies but I don't recall seeing them on eBay.

I believe that could be a possibility, as the later years of the Uk's nirvanas was released in Australia.

And I haven't heard of that, I haven't seen any Scandanavian exclusives here but I'll keep that in mind.
 
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on April 17, 2019, 06:48:45 AM
It would be genuinely awesome if someone did the legwork and put together a definitive list of Aussie releases (and perhaps NZ ones as well) as it's one of those gaps...

I'm hoping to achieve that, although it'll probably be speculative for a long time. I'll try to find old employees, find vintage catalouges, go to the state library and that kind of stuff.

 

Speaking just from the position of someone who's been working on the UK line for about 20 years and where there are still gaps and things we can't explain due to lack of evidence, you have my sympathy :D But I absolutely support you trying to get what you can together. If it's any help, one of the first international trades I did in the late 1990s was for 3 Dream Beauties from Australia - Morning Glory, Crystalline and Dream Gleamer. Because it was so early in online trading terms, I wonder if that indicates DBs happened in Aus.

The information I put together for the UK comes partly from stuff I still had from my childhood, partly from inserts, partly from a list Hasbro UK sent to me in 1995 (before their customer service became autobot annoying as it is today), partly from old catalogue scans from things like Argos, partly from the memories and bits and pieces of other collectors, partly from the comics...and so on.

In short, there are lots of potential avenues for investigation.

The challenge I think you may have is that I think most of Aus's pony line was through import of either US or UK packaged items, which means your inserts may not help you determine what was sold there.

It is probably a hard task but please don't give up on it :) I feel like there are a lot of different pony release combinations around the world but most sites only focus on the US vs other. I work with the UK and try to bring some Euro stuff into it, but it really needs people in those countries to put stuff together as well.

Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on April 17, 2019, 08:01:08 AM
It would be genuinely awesome if someone did the legwork and put together a definitive list of Aussie releases (and perhaps NZ ones as well) as it's one of those gaps...

I'm hoping to achieve that, although it'll probably be speculative for a long time. I'll try to find old employees, find vintage catalouges, go to the state library and that kind of stuff.

 

Speaking just from the position of someone who's been working on the UK line for about 20 years and where there are still gaps and things we can't explain due to lack of evidence, you have my sympathy :D But I absolutely support you trying to get what you can together. If it's any help, one of the first international trades I did in the late 1990s was for 3 Dream Beauties from Australia - Morning Glory, Crystalline and Dream Gleamer. Because it was so early in online trading terms, I wonder if that indicates DBs happened in Aus.

The information I put together for the UK comes partly from stuff I still had from my childhood, partly from inserts, partly from a list Hasbro UK sent to me in 1995 (before their customer service became autobot annoying as it is today), partly from old catalogue scans from things like Argos, partly from the memories and bits and pieces of other collectors, partly from the comics...and so on.

In short, there are lots of potential avenues for investigation.

The challenge I think you may have is that I think most of Aus's pony line was through import of either US or UK packaged items, which means your inserts may not help you determine what was sold there.

It is probably a hard task but please don't give up on it :) I feel like there are a lot of different pony release combinations around the world but most sites only focus on the US vs other. I work with the UK and try to bring some Euro stuff into it, but it really needs people in those countries to put stuff together as well.

D-Dream Beauties in Australia?! Wow, that'd be amazing if they were sold here! Do you still have them?

I thank you for that, I won't give up easily and that was a factor I never thought of.

Also I've thought up of another route for gaining info, like those "hottest toys for Christmas" news videos or finding photos of the interior of shops, hopefully showing MLP or even promotional material.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on April 17, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
Yep, I still have them :)

The trade was in around 1999 I think. It was pretty early.

Those are good angles to explore as well. It can be quite dispiriting when there are gaps you can't fill. Over here a lot of shops had ponies in the eighties and nineties. Most of mine came from Woolworths but they left behind few catalogues. We've worked out that certain US ponies were sold there as exclusives but it took a lot of piecing together to figure out what and when.

But on the positive we have Argos and Argos catalogues do survive for 1982 through to 1993 or 1994 - as do some Index ones from the late 1980s early 1990s. Maybe if there is a catalogue shop in Aus that sold toys through the eighties, that might be an option. People collect catalogues!

Also comics. Even if not pony comics, there's a chance comics from the 1980s might have adverts in them for MLP :)
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on April 24, 2019, 05:41:07 AM
Made a breakthrough! https://bit.ly/2VhAkDT (https://bit.ly/2VhAkDT)
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on August 14, 2019, 07:21:41 PM
Found a huge lot of G1 MLP on eBay, although I can't buy it.

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Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on August 14, 2019, 08:24:04 PM
Found a huge lot of G1 MLP on eBay, although I can't buy it.

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Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on August 14, 2019, 11:56:06 PM
Pony content wise, that's a very "American" lot (by which I mean the ponies in it are more what we'd expect from a US seller than a European one overall.

But that's in keeping with the stuff you've found in catalogues as well though.

Poor dirty ponies. I hope they get a good home.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Skeen on August 15, 2019, 11:50:28 AM
The only pony I ever found while living in Australia was Hopscotch.  She was in a thrift store by herself. 
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on August 15, 2019, 12:08:41 PM
The only pony I ever found while living in Australia was Hopscotch.  She was in a thrift store by herself. 

...And there the theory flips on its head ;)
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Skeen on August 16, 2019, 12:49:10 PM
The only pony I ever found while living in Australia was Hopscotch.  She was in a thrift store by herself. 

LOL!  When I found her I did give her a serious side-eye like, "What are you doing here?  Are you supposed to be here?"
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on August 16, 2019, 03:28:23 PM
The only pony I ever found while living in Australia was Hopscotch.  She was in a thrift store by herself. 

LOL!  When I found her I did give her a serious side-eye like, "What are you doing here?  Are you supposed to be here?"

Expat pony! A lot of Britons seem to like emigrating over there ;)
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: reddsetgogirl on August 20, 2019, 12:51:23 PM
Surprisingly, most ponies traditionally thought of as being UK exclusives were released in Australia.  We didn’t get Mountain Boys but a huge number of other ponies were also sold here.  Hopscotch, Snowflake, Baby Billie/Katie/Susie all show up somewhat commonly.  We had our own version of the Activity Club which released the same ponies and TAF babies were available somehow, though I can’t confirm if it was a mail in offer or not.  A collector wrote to Hasbro about two decades ago now and got a full MIP set directly, long after they were released.

I know people who remember seeing various UK ponies and the kitchen playset in store so it’s not a case of immigrating with them.  Especially when you consider how expensive immigrating to Australia was at that time.  Most families wouldn’t be packing a great deal of toys for their children and would be opting to rebuy them over giving up precious shipping container space.

The most common ponies however are the three newborns Baby Sunset, etc. These were sold in Easter egg packaging and several Aussie collectors remember them but no photo evidence has ever appeared.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on August 21, 2019, 06:34:01 AM
The only pony I ever found while living in Australia was Hopscotch.  She was in a thrift store by herself. 

LOL!  When I found her I did give her a serious side-eye like, "What are you doing here?  Are you supposed to be here?"

Expat pony! A lot of Britons seem to like emigrating over there ;)

I'd second that here! I've seen a lot more Hopscotches than Peachy's online and the pink Melody with star pony (I think that's the dutch one) more than twice but they all popped up at the same time. There's also a MLP lot with g4 blindbags and a G1 MLP Tales Bon Bon on FB marketplace.

Post Merge: August 21, 2019, 06:37:42 AM

Surprisingly, most ponies traditionally thought of as being UK exclusives were released in Australia.  We didn’t get Mountain Boys but a huge number of other ponies were also sold here.  Hopscotch, Snowflake, Baby Billie/Katie/Susie all show up somewhat commonly.  We had our own version of the Activity Club which released the same ponies and TAF babies were available somehow, though I can’t confirm if it was a mail in offer or not.  A collector wrote to Hasbro about two decades ago now and got a full MIP set directly, long after they were released.

I know people who remember seeing various UK ponies and the kitchen playset in store so it’s not a case of immigrating with them.  Especially when you consider how expensive immigrating to Australia was at that time.  Most families wouldn’t be packing a great deal of toys for their children and would be opting to rebuy them over giving up precious shipping container space.

The most common ponies however are the three newborns Baby Sunset, etc. These were sold in Easter egg packaging and several Aussie collectors remember them but no photo evidence has ever appeared.

Yeah, I've seen the red baby the most (I think baby Sunset) included with lots more than twice. Plus that correlates with my Moondream.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on August 23, 2019, 01:11:26 AM
Updated with newer findings
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: starstrider on August 24, 2019, 10:01:10 AM
the alt birthflowers got released there

As an Aussie collector who has spent more than a decade hunting Alt Birthflower Ponies, I have genuine doubt that they were ever sold here.  In more than ten years of actively hunting Alt BF ponies, I've never found one in Australia.  Not once.  Eventually I found all 13 (that's including the reverse Holly), but I had to import them all.  Most of them came from Europe, a few from Scandinavia, a few from the UK and US, and one from New Zealand.  If they had been sold here, it would stand to reason that at some point I would have encountered them in the wild or for sale somewhere.  The back cards came in two versions - the English language version which was on a vertical/portrait card, and the Scandinavian language version which came on the horizontal/landscape card.  I believe the English language version were sold in Europe.  I sincerely doubt they were ever sold here in Australia. I would really love to know where the idea that they were sold here came from , because the available evidence doesn't seem to support it.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on August 24, 2019, 11:45:45 AM
It's a long time ago now, and I may be wrong, but I believe the information came from someone in Aus that they had been sold there.

But without a paper trail it's open to being debunked as a theory.  It's also possible that it was a regional store or even an independant store that imported them, rather than Hasbro across the whole country. I know a couple of people who had SS ponies new here from that kind of store in the south west, but they weren't sold here formally.

The problem with AUS is that nobody really documented stuff over there at the point MLP finished...so figuring out stuff like that is going to be tough :/
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on August 25, 2019, 06:01:59 AM
It's a long time ago now, and I may be wrong, but I believe the information came from someone in Aus that they had been sold there.

But without a paper trail it's open to being debunked as a theory.  It's also possible that it was a regional store or even an independant store that imported them, rather than Hasbro across the whole country. I know a couple of people who had SS ponies new here from that kind of store in the south west, but they weren't sold here formally.

The problem with AUS is that nobody really documented stuff over there at the point MLP finished...so figuring out stuff like that is going to be tough :/

Hmm, that's interesting. I know of one lady in Canberra who was selling her childhood collection (via eBay) and that included a Alt Birthflower pony, the green one with yellow hair and white flower. I did ask her about it and some of her ponies were bought in store, she was there in store for a few of them and some were gifts elsewhere.

However, she said she had a travelling uncle who bought her ponies from all over the world and that accounted for the few nirvanas she had (I can only remember white Tootsie atm)
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: skyline on August 26, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
Hello! Chiming in quickly to answer an earlier question: Dream Beauties were 100% sold in Australia - I got Sheertrimmer for my fourth birthday :) obviously can’t tell you which ranges exactly, but they were definitely there.

The other thing I can tell you definitively - since as I have mentioned before many of my ponies were inherited from my older sister, and my South African grandmother in Johannesburg would often buy me ponies, so sometimes I am a little unsure about the EXACT provenance of everything in my childhood collection - is that I have a distinct memory of going to Toys r Us and buying Petite Ponies there. I had a set from almost every collection and many of my friends did too, as well as playsets. They were very popular.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: freezestime on August 27, 2019, 12:21:32 AM
Hello! Chiming in quickly to answer an earlier question: Dream Beauties were 100% sold in Australia - I got Sheertrimmer for my fourth birthday :) obviously can’t tell you which ranges exactly, but they were definitely there.

The other thing I can tell you definitively - since as I have mentioned before many of my ponies were inherited from my older sister, and my South African grandmother in Johannesburg would often buy me ponies, so sometimes I am a little unsure about the EXACT provenance of everything in my childhood collection - is that I have a distinct memory of going to Toys r Us and buying Petite Ponies there. I had a set from almost every collection and many of my friends did too, as well as playsets. They were very popular.

The Dream Beauties were also supported by Taffeta friend's experience, she got some Dream Beauties from Australia in the 90's!

And Petite Ponies have popped up online as well, although I'm not too familiar with them and they're never in their box, always loose!

(And that explains why I always see big groups of them, way more times than big groups of regular G1s!)
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: Taffeta on August 27, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
I find the DB thing interesting as they were definitely offered here (they're in the UK catalogue for 1990) but they didn't get taken up by stores as far as I can tell. I feel like they were meant to be global.

Do you guys know how far you got with the petite releases? Because again, we were meant to have all of them, but while the ponytail set are pretty common here, the others I don't think I've ever found. Maybe the pony parade ones. Also, I've got the ponytail ones on two different card styles - one European, and one American and I feel like I saw both styles in stores here but can't prove it.

We had all the playsets here with the brushable tail versions of the petites, I've never found the petites with moulded tails here. But I feel like people in the US have said they had both over there. If you can figure out which you had in Aus it might help to date when you got those sets as we had Petites I *think* pretty much from 1990-1.
Title: Re: G1 ponies probably released in Australia?
Post by: skyline on August 27, 2019, 01:23:09 PM
I feel confident saying we got all Petite sets up till glowing - which isn’t to say we didn’t have those, I just didn’t have a set and I don’t strictly remember any of my friends having them. I had a Twinkle set and a Bright Sight set so I know we got pretty far. I also can’t say for sure we got the carousel or the castle, but we did get all the houses and the shops.

The other ponies I can with total certainty tell you were bought for me in Sydney were: birthday pony, pony bride, Chocolate Delight, Posey Rose, Diamond Dreams, Secret Beauty, the fancy mermaids, Happy Hugs, Sunsplasher, Gardenglow, Beautybloom, and Princess Royal Pink. The rest of my collection could possibly have come from South Africa / I inherited from my sister and don’t remember opening or remember having friends in Australia also owning/owning from the same set.

Post Merge: August 27, 2019, 01:25:00 PM

Oh - to answer your q, we did have the petites without brushable hair!
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