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Trader & Shipping Support / Re: Netherlands Buyer Refused Shipment Due to Customs Charges
« on: September 27, 2013, 03:23:42 AM »
I have to agree with Sebby and Hathorcat also, a pony is essentially worthless, it's a piece of plastic. I see a whole world of difference in marking a vintage G1 that cost $50, $10, and marking down a brand new iphone 5s which cost hundreds of dollars.
A lot of products are cheaper to buy from the US than they are in Europe (phones, laptops, designer clothes, perfume etc etc), that is what these customs laws are designed to prevent, people from Europe buying NEW products from other countries where they are cheaper and avoiding paying VAT/tax by not buying that product in their own country.
^^ Could not agree with this more.
Do you guys think it's fair that we should get stuck with a ridiculously excessive tax for a vintage pony which we would not pay tax on when buying from within our own country? VAT etc would not apply if we brought the same pony for the same price from a seller in the UK. So how does it make sense that we have to pay it when buying the pony from a seller abroad? We are clearly not circumventing taxation as vintage items like these are not subject to these taxes within our own country.
I too find it frustrating when people look at everything so black and white, clearly there is a massive difference in asking for a new product, subject to VAT etc., with an intrinsic value to be undervalued on a custom form versus an old product, not subject to VAT etc., with no intrinsic value to be undervalued.
A lot of products are cheaper to buy from the US than they are in Europe (phones, laptops, designer clothes, perfume etc etc), that is what these customs laws are designed to prevent, people from Europe buying NEW products from other countries where they are cheaper and avoiding paying VAT/tax by not buying that product in their own country.
The purpose of import duty is so that the UK Government gets back the VAT/tax that they miss out on when the item being imported was purchased in another country. However 2 things: 1) I am purchasing the item on the Arena or via ebay, the seller is not charging me tax anyway; 2) I am purchasing second hand items and items which could not be purchased within the country I am from [perhaps never released here] but being charged tax on it? I would not actually quibble with a charge if I purchased a G4 item MIB which is on UK shelves but I am buying it in order to get it cheaper...then sure I would be liable.
^^ Could not agree with this more.
Do you guys think it's fair that we should get stuck with a ridiculously excessive tax for a vintage pony which we would not pay tax on when buying from within our own country? VAT etc would not apply if we brought the same pony for the same price from a seller in the UK. So how does it make sense that we have to pay it when buying the pony from a seller abroad? We are clearly not circumventing taxation as vintage items like these are not subject to these taxes within our own country.
I too find it frustrating when people look at everything so black and white, clearly there is a massive difference in asking for a new product, subject to VAT etc., with an intrinsic value to be undervalued on a custom form versus an old product, not subject to VAT etc., with no intrinsic value to be undervalued.