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Title: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 15, 2012, 06:27:42 AM

*EDIT TO ADD PHOTOS* 


Icey just finished drying so here are some updated pictures of the handsome lad.  He is shown w/a replacement tail from a donor Wigwam (I'm still sorting through the mess of the original tail - but they're identical minus the glue from the previous owner).  He is in minty condition *EXCEPT* for about 5 or so spots of pindot mold on his face.   :shocked:  But it hasn't spread and the inside of him is very clean.  Also, I took photos of him next to my "WIP" Hong Kong Icey (he's not had a bath yet, and has both a hair and tail cut).  Hope you enjoy!


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Hair plugs - Thai Icey has two straight rows w/no additional plugs for the stripe, HK Icey has 8 or so plugs in a row of their own for the stripe


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Hair plugs - Thai Icey has two straight rows w/no additional plugs for the stripe, HK Icey has 8 or so plugs in a row of their own for the stripe


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2-3 Blue plugs woven and cut out of the green


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Hoofprints of both - they are so hard to photograph!!! (Tips please?)  Thailand Icey on the left, HK on the right




Thanks for Hathorcat's brilliant suggestion of a scanner...Hoofprints!  The Thailand stamp is very faint, but you can see it.  ^-^  Here's the Thai Icey on the left again, HK on the right.




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Hi all!  Sorry I haven't been around much, life has gotten very busy for me!  We found out in November that we will be expecting our third child in August. Hubby and I are so excited over thing, I can't tell you how happy I am.   :biggrin:  I can't wait!


Anyway so after dealing with the morning sickness, plus my two toddlers, I think things are finally settling down.  ^-^


The big thing about having a third child though, means that we won't be able to fit three carseats in the back of our little Kia - so we're having to upgrade to a van.  We recently got our taxes done, and while we will be able to set some aside to help us purchase a van, we'll still be a little short.


So I've come to a difficult decision.  I think I will be selling my Thailand Icey in a month or so in attempts to raise a bit of funds for a new family car that will support our whole family.  I will also be selling a few other HTF ponies such as Mimic and Arco Isis Gingerbread (restored now!).


I am still deciding exactly how I will sell him as I don't know if a Thailand Mountain Boy has ever been sold under proper labels.  I don't really want to do ebay, I would prefer to keep him in the MLP Arena community, but as this is primarily going to help us purchase a car, I have to consider different options.  I will be willing to take payments on him from Arena members, as long as he remains in my possession until fully paid, and that he's paid for by a set time (not sure when that will need to be yet - August at the latest).  If I do sell him here, I will have a set reserve price in mind, and possibly a BIN.


Alrighty, I think that's it at the moment.  Thoughts?  Advice?  Any input would be greatly appreciated.


Have a blessed day!
Cloudie
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: zora on February 15, 2012, 06:49:37 AM
congrats on your baby and good luck with your sales! maybe you could tell me your price for gingerbread - but i cant assure you that i can afford her! :)
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: Icecrystalline on February 15, 2012, 09:34:32 AM
Awwwh congrats on baby! :D Bet you're super excited! xxx Please could you possibly PM me about Mimic with a price you've got in mind for her please?
All the best!
Icey x
x
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: pinkkittywinks on February 15, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
:hug:

as far as i know no thailan MB has been sold openly in the community, so to speak :)

i think the only way he is going to find his value is by taking offers on him, but i know you wish to set a reserve/or starting price which is totally fine :)

i know remember he had some issues with his neck join (glue?) and glue in his tail, but i don't really think that will affect his value too much. just be sure to post LOTS of pictures and give a good description ;)

love pkw xxxx
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 15, 2012, 11:20:56 AM
Thank you everyone.  :)  PKW I love your new siggy!

Yes, currently he's got his head off, and I'm working on that mess of a tail (the glue...  >< ).  But I do have a donor Wigwam tail that I will probably send with him just in case the new owner would prefer that.  They're identical, but you never know how 'original' the collector would like him. 

Anyway, there was a bit of a mess trying to figure out the dark green stripe in his mane - but as far as I can tell it's original.  In my HK Icey there's actually a seperate row for the stripe w/10 or so plugs by itself.  However my Thailand Icey doesn't have an extra row, just two horizontal.

I'm going to finish getting him all snazzy and figure out the best time to place him for sale.  I figured tax season is best as most people have a little extra to splurge with.  :)  We'll see how it goes!
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: Glacia471 on February 15, 2012, 12:38:07 PM
I would suggest no having a BIN, just because we don't know how much these boys are really worth ;) By letting an auction run its course we'll have a better idea. I would recommend taking offers for 2-4 weeks as well. :awake:
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: angelponies on February 15, 2012, 12:41:50 PM
Congrats to you and your hubby!
I agree with the taking offers on him!  :satisfied:
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 15, 2012, 01:01:57 PM
Glacia, I think you're right, I think I'd take offers for about 3-4 weeks.  I think that would probably be a good amount of time.

I guess the BIN wouldn't be necessary, as long as I have a modest reserve. 

My big question is - here or on ebay?  I'd prefer here for many reasons:
1.)  Stays in the community
2.)  I know this community and love the members here
3.)  Gives me flexibility to work with the buyer
4.)  Avoid all the ebay fees

But ebay does have some advantages, primarily more "publicity" and the binding contract.

I'm still thinking on it...  I will probably start the auction here around the first week of March or so.  Most people are getting their taxes back by then, right?
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: Glacia471 on February 15, 2012, 01:06:58 PM
You could start your opening bid at your reserve too :) And I would have the auction here on the Arena. Many of the hardcore Nirvana collectors are here anyway, and it would just be a matter of promoting your auction. What I usually do is make a signature promoting whatever sale/auction I have going on and then try to post more often ;) That way whoever sees your posts also sees your little ad for his auction.
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: hathorcat on February 15, 2012, 01:59:13 PM
Congrats on the baby sweetie!

Its a shame you will be selling him on but for a good reason at heart I suppose...

I know what you mean about deciding between here and ebay...I always think it would be much nicer to take offers on here...it means you avoid fees and he will stay "in the Arena community". But when the reason for selling is to raise money then I completely understand why an ebay sale would win out...there are lots of pony collectors including hard core nirvana collectors who dont take part in online communities like this one and by selling here you miss a wider audience.

Like others have said...there has been no labelled auction for a Thailand boy [other than the Fireball that was listed a year or so ago but I dont know if he actually sold cause he had a super high BIN on] no one knows what he will fetch and whether here or ebay a reserve is a must have!
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: Chi on February 15, 2012, 02:25:03 PM
Awww, congrats on the baby!!  :lovey: :heart: :heart:
I'm not entirely sure what you should do about your Ice Crystal. I do like the idea of you keeping him in the community, but I'm not really sure if you'd get the most out of it here. However I did see that MIB Takara go for quite a bit and I believe it was someone here. You could try taking offers on the Arena for a while and if it doesn't get as high as you'd like then maybe you'll end up resorting to eBay. I hope you don't have to, but it's always best to keep all options open. However, I'm sure he will fetch a pretty penny even on the arena!
...I guess I'll also sneak in here that I'd possibly be interested in that Gingerbread, teehee. >w>
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: MidnightFireflies on February 15, 2012, 07:55:35 PM
Congrats on your new bundle of joy! My vote is to auction him here with taking offers for up to 4 weeks. I know that I would DEFINITELY be interested in putting an offer in!  :biggrin: I have NEVER seen a Thailand Icey. I REALLY REALLY want to see a pic!


Edit: I was trying to find a pic of your treasure! I found your pictures on the other arena website. What a gorgeous boy!
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: Chi on February 15, 2012, 08:50:17 PM
Same! Just found him on the archived arena and he is stunning!  :lovey:
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: tootie_tails on February 16, 2012, 04:56:48 AM
If you decide to sell him here on the arena, would you be willing to ship first?
Considering the repeted shipping problems you have had in the past.

Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 16, 2012, 06:12:25 AM
If you decide to sell him here on the arena, would you be willing to ship first?
Considering the repeted shipping problems you have had in the past.




That's a very good question.  :)  Let's see if I can answer this question fully...



It would depend on the person and situation, but in most cases due to the rarity and rough value of him, I don't think that would be possible.  While I have a couple of problems in the past, I have tried to resolve those issues with the individuals personally (if you need I can provide additional references via pm's).  I have been a member quite a while on this board, and have many positive references and transactions to reinforce my credibility as a seller.  Also, on ebay, I have 100% positive feedback.  http://myworld.ebay.com/cloud_weaver/ (http://myworld.ebay.com/cloud_weaver/) 



As I'm thinking he will fetch in the $500-$1000 range, I cannot afford to risk losing him to a non-paying bidder. 


The best option to ease the buyer's mind would be to make sure that he is paid off completely through paypal before the set time elapses for a refund. 


How does that sound?  What would you recommend?


If you have further concerns, please feel free to pm me and I will answer all questions and concerns.  :)




For those who haven't had a chance to see him - he's a rough and blurry shot of him from when I first got him (I'll try to get some better pictures later today)


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I think I will take offers her for around 3 to 4 weeks.  If he doesn't reach what I think he could on ebay I'll move him over there (I hope to avoid that though). 


Anyway, off feed the kids and get dishes going.  Have a good morning!   :awake:
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: kCherry on February 16, 2012, 07:48:50 AM
Oh, wow!! Congrats on your newest family member!!

.. What a conundrum you have on your hands!! I hate that you have to part with him, but thoroughly understand the need as well. I detest eBay for selling purposes, but there is no denying the better exposure to the public you'd get by listing him there.

  And regardless of any shipping issues that you've had in the past I absolutely would not ship a pony of this scarcity before receiving payment. Not even to my own Mother ( who is a saint. :angel: ) In your case I would simply receive payment, sit on that money, ship and refund if he goes missing and then deal with the Post. For this reason I would also seriously debate if I wanted him to go outside of the U.S. just because if the liabilities and the fact that we all know how hard it is to get satisfaction from ANY postal corporation here or abroad when things go missing. :yikes: This would greatly reduce your potential buyers, but could potentially add a bit of insurance and peace of mind when he's off to his new home. ;) These are, of course, just my own opinions. I think you've got the right idea about how to find the best home for him.



  I don't envy your tricky situation, but I sure am happy for your getting another baby! :lovey: Good luck!!
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: pinkkittywinks on February 16, 2012, 11:02:06 AM
thank you cherry for your advice on this matter :hug: you are a true guru of trading/sales law!

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 16, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
KCherry - thank you for your valuable input.  ^-^  I hadn't thought about international shipping and tracking issues.  Do you know, if the item is insured and then shipped internationally, does the postal service cover losses in the case of something happening?  Such a scary thought.  I've never had a problem dealing overseas, but often I hear of packages getting caught up in customs and then the delay becomes monumental.

Icey just had a bath and he's in the process of drying.  I'll take a few updated pictures of him as soon as he's all snazzy. 
Title: Re: Difficult descision - will possibly be selling Thailand Ice Crystal in a bit
Post by: kCherry on February 16, 2012, 02:20:37 PM
thank you cherry for your advice on this matter :hug: you are a true guru of trading/sales law!

  Aww, thanks Hunny. :blush: You do learn a bit when you hang out in TS for a couple of years. :P

KCherry - thank you for your valuable input.  ^-^  I hadn't thought about international shipping and tracking issues.  Do you know, if the item is insured and then shipped internationally, does the postal service cover losses in the case of something happening?  Such a scary thought.  I've never had a problem dealing overseas, but often I hear of packages getting caught up in customs and then the delay becomes monumental.

  I'm always happy to offer my advice in these situations. :) I'd rather not see anypony posting in TS with problems. LOL It's always so nice when things work out on the first go. 

  There is always a greater potential for items to become lost in the post when you are sending outside of whatever country your shipper is located in. While this might not be a great concern when you are shipping low-value items, when you are discussing rare items such as this it becomes a liability to ship outside of the country. Again, it can severely limit your customer base, but it is something to consider all the same. ;)

  If you'd like to further discuss the ins and outs of over-seas shipping based upon what I've seen in TS do feel free to send me a PM. I am happy to assist you in any way. :)

  Can't wait to see new pictures of him! He's stunning!! :cheer:
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 17, 2012, 08:54:27 AM
KCherry, I might take you up on that...I will want to offer overseas bidders a chance to bid on him, but want to go about it in the safest manner.  *sigh*  Hope everything goes okay with this...sometimes it's a bit nerve-wrecking thinking of all the different ponies you have in your collection and what could happen to them.  :drunk:
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: pinkkittywinks on February 17, 2012, 11:29:07 AM
oh wow look at him! that dark green stripe is amazing :)

love pkw xxx
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: Chi on February 17, 2012, 11:35:32 AM
If you're shipping internationally, you could always ship with DHL or EMS. They're usually much faster, but because of that cost a little bit more. However, it is MUCH less likely to get lost.
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 17, 2012, 11:44:32 AM
PKW, I know!  I always look at it and am torn as to whether I like the mint or forest green stripe more.  But that dark green is so striking on him.  :lovey:

Flitter, I haven't heard of DHL or EMS - I'm not overly worried about shipping cost right now because I'd rather pay a bit more to ensure that he arrives safe and sound rather than risk him going missing in the post.
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: mercynova on February 17, 2012, 12:34:17 PM
He is absolutely gorgeous! Good luck whatever you decide to do!
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: Chi on February 17, 2012, 03:52:02 PM
EMS is usually offered in every country, and seems to cost anywhere from 15 to 35 depending on where it's coming FROM. Generally arrives in no more than a week to wherever it's going. You can usually just send it through EMS at your local post office.
DHL costs a bit less but their offices seem to be a little bit harder to find. They also usually arrive in no more than a week.
Here's their website if you'd like to know more. http://www.dhl.com/en.html
Whenever I buy ponies from other countries (especially South America) and they cost more than usual, I tend to ask the seller if they'd be willing to use either one of these methods. Definitely worth it for me to pay a bit more for shipping than risk losing a pony in the scary dark place that is international shipping. XD
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: babystarz on February 18, 2012, 03:10:11 PM
*drool* well if I buy him you won't have to worry about shipping him :P
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: kCherry on February 18, 2012, 07:58:19 PM
Wow. He is just... wow. :faint:

  Fantastic tips, Flitter!!! Lots of good food for thought! :)
Title: Re: *PICTURES ADDED* Difficult decision - will be selling Thailand Ice Crystal
Post by: cloud_weaver on February 27, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Thank you
EMS is usually offered in every country, and seems to cost anywhere from 15 to 35 depending on where it's coming FROM. Generally arrives in no more than a week to wherever it's going. You can usually just send it through EMS at your local post office.
DHL costs a bit less but their offices seem to be a little bit harder to find. They also usually arrive in no more than a week.
Here's their website if you'd like to know more. http://www.dhl.com/en.html (http://www.dhl.com/en.html)
Whenever I buy ponies from other countries (especially South America) and they cost more than usual, I tend to ask the seller if they'd be willing to use either one of these methods. Definitely worth it for me to pay a bit more for shipping than risk losing a pony in the scary dark place that is international shipping. XD


Thank you for the tips Flitter!  I'm researching them now.  ^-^  There's a DHL place very close to me, so that's nice to know.

He will be listed in a few days.  I finished a new photo shoot, and am still working on sorting out the mess that is his old tail.  He will be sold with both his original tail (glued by his childhood owner) and his donor tail from Wigwam.  Both are identical, minus the glue in the tail he's wearing obviously.  :P  He will come wearing the tail from Wigwam though, as it was easier to put in.  It's not secured with a washer, but is not budging when gently pulled on.

Keep an eye out for him pony peeps!  He'll be available soon! :lovey:
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