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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2014, 08:57:38 AM »
A lot of it also comes down to where Hasbro were trading, where they had offices or subsidiaries. If Hasbro traded [had an office base/distribution network/sales forces/etc] within a country then they would easily be able to simply use the same factories and processes as Hasbro US did; hence why you get UK/German/Dutch exclusives which were only out in certain countries [in some cases classed as Nirvana] but were made in Hong Kong and China. Hasbro UK or Hasbro Germany would simply work as their own business, create their own lines, pick and choose from US designed lines and order anything they wished for their market from the Far East Hasbro factories.

In countries where Hasbro did not trade or did not have a commercial base it made more sense, and more money, to simply license the line to other local toy manufacturers. Why miss out on a market place just because they did not trade there - provide moulds and contracts and get your money by just doing some paperwork. The licenses would typically restrict which countries they could be sold in, in order that they did not impinge on existing Hasbro markets. Although thanks to DAG mainly there is some cross over in a lot of central west Europe.

As to why they are different variations, that is down to factories and choices by the toy company. The licensees would have been provided with licence documentation - this is literally a list of ponies, the colours they should be, close ups of their symbols, their names and many other details [however no actual mention of pose or species]. Back in the 80s we are not talking something as helpful as providing a computer file with vectors and detailed images. They were normally a few A4 pages which had to be recreated from paper. I think in those circumstances and with language barriers, its not really all that surprising so many countries have so many ponies which are variation of their original releases.
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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2014, 05:45:45 AM »
Very interesting :) you are very knowledgable cat :D

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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2014, 06:04:39 AM »
Very interesting :) you are very knowledgable cat :D

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Thanks :)

I have a license list which actually only lists the names of the ponies, their sets and their type; it was accompanied with a really paltry 2 page colour document with some artist impressions of the sets. The contract accompanying the licensee is more weighty than the licensee information lol. Its really not that surprising I guess so many ponies were different.
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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2014, 07:10:59 AM »
That is a document I would love to see!

I have heard about the licences, but didn't know what they contained. This is a real eye opener :)

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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2014, 09:09:31 AM »
so cool and interesting informations!! Thanks Hathorcat!! I also would love to see such a document!! ;)
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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2014, 02:04:52 PM »
That does sound like an awesome document! Some of the Hasbros (most, lol) were not so good with documentation... Taff has a list from Hasbro UK (in the 90s) which lists all the ponies sold in the UK, but even that is incomplete!
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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2014, 04:24:39 PM »
I promised someone else I would bring it all to Pony Con so I ll make sure to pack it safe :)

I got this paperwork from someone who was selling a deceased relations licensing documentation - they had owned a company/factory which produced Hasbro licensed goods/products. And I believe other licensed toys/merch too. I know they also sold some other brand documentation too and some advertising material [I missed out on some of that :(]. As part of the purchase I promised I would never share a copy of the cover letter accompanying the contract because it has their relations and their businesses personal details but everything else is fine.
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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2014, 10:47:26 AM »
Yay :D I'm glad to hear you'll be coming to PonyCon.

That's understandable why you can't share the document. I still think it's amazing that you have got hold of such a document.

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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2014, 02:50:50 PM »
Yay :D I'm glad to hear you'll be coming to PonyCon.

That's understandable why you can't share the document. I still think it's amazing that you have got hold of such a document.

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Oh I have no problem sharing everything in person :) And its only the cover letter with the relatives name/company and address he did not want me to share online [understandable as its personal information]. I ll bring it all to the Con and if people think its interesting I can scan and post a little more here for everyone.
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Re: Why do Nirvanas actually exist?
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2014, 02:11:26 AM »
 :hug: oh this would be great , Thanks Hathorcat!!
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