What the.... :shocked:
I have so many questions!
Are these the upcoming fall Target exclusives Basic Fun teased at Pony Fair? I was really hoping for halloween-themed ponies, given the proposed timeline, but as a G3 fan I'm not unpleasantly surprised. (Still hoping it's not this though. I want some more spoopy ponies! ST AJ is lonely!) I feel like this can't be Hasbro's doing, since these ponies look pretty spot-on and they don't come in an annoying set of six. :P
But why make these at all? Can there really be a strong nostalgia market for G3s? (...Wait, how old am I? :ack:) The current character line-up is much more in tune with the G4-oriented market. I would think that if they were really tapping in to proper G3 nostalgia we'd see characters like Wysteria, Kimono, MINTY... but I guess this is a safe first pass? It'll be interesting to see if they do any more after these four.
God help me, if they come in cute boxes, I'll probably end up buying them. -_-
This is very unusual. Who is this made by?
This is very unusual. Who is this made by?
That's what I was thinking. I will be disappointed if this is BF.
Height Lights just sounds like a typo for highlights
All y'all are like "I have questions!" and I'm like: :frolic:
I got into MLP G3 post-G3, so I've never actually been able to buy them new off of shelves. Perhaps it's a silly thing to be excited for. I also don't own any of the G3's listed, so they'd be new for me.
That is beyond bizarre... :shocked: G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I? :cry: Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...
I kind of hope these are not BF unless they get the whole DPCI issue sorted... If this set has the same item number as the 80s retros, I fear Target will have trouble getting everything on the shelf.
IM GOING TO MCFREAKIN LOSE IT
They look so good!! A walking pose Pinkie without tinsel...! For Twilight though, assuming they do her, are they going with Twilight Twinkle? I always thought Twilight Twinkle = Twilight Sparkle was a stretch...
I'm interested to see Twilight and Rarity... these four are easy since they're in the same pose, but Rarity and Twilight Twinkle are in different poses, both from the others and from each other. Maybe they won't do them at all. Which is sort of odd, because Twilight Sparkle is Hasbro's favourite. :rolleyes:
Interesting! Are they by Basic Fun?
Can someone post photos/screenshots please? The pages won't load for me :(
I've been hoping for G3 repros ever since G4 started :')
I'm really happy ! I hope they make other ponies than these but I doubt it.
I'm gonna get Pinkie Pie. Not that she's a favorite but she is G3's biggest icon after all. And, she's pink. We love that don't we ? lol
The world has too many Pinkie Pies. We don't need more...O.O
The world has too many Pinkie Pies. We don't need more...O.O
That's true but I'd take G3 ones over G4 ones any day!!
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.
Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie
And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.
Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie
And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.
Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie
And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
Can they all power up and pilot a giant Trojan horse Mecha in the form of our beloved Pinkie Pie?
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.
Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie
And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
The twist is . . . they are all still pink.
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.
Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie
And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
The twist is . . . they are all still pink.
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.
Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie
And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
The twist is . . . they are all still pink.
That is beyond bizarre... :shocked: G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I? :cry: Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...
That is beyond bizarre... :shocked: G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I? :cry: Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...
This. Just... this. :cry: How can a toy I liked as a tween already be “retro”!? I’m only 27! Is G3 really old? AM I OLD!? :cry:
I’m both horrified and extremely sad. :cloud:
That is beyond bizarre... :shocked: G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I? :cry: Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...
This. Just... this. :cry: How can a toy I liked as a tween already be “retro”!? I’m only 27! Is G3 really old? AM I OLD!? :cry:
I’m both horrified and extremely sad. :cloud:
How do you think I feel? I collected G3's as an adult and now... I'm still an adult but they are retro!? :cry:
I wouldn't be surprised if those ARE photos of the original G3s. It's happened before. (Anyone remember the Running Press Firefly debacle? You know, how the original stock photos had a G1 Firefly photoshopped into them instead of the actual mini-Firefly toy?)
Heck, I also wouldn't be surprised if it turns out those are the photos they used the for the original releases...! It'd explain the lack of in-package photos, too. I hope they go up for sale soon so we can see what's going on here.
Retro simply means emulating or going back to an older style. So no, they're not that old.
Retro simply means emulating or going back to an older style. So no, they're not that old.
Yeah. I think it literally means 'backward' xD as in "out of date and no longer valid" as well as 'past'. But you know, past is a relative term...
I think retro is overused as a term, personally.
Retro simply means emulating or going back to an older style. So no, they're not that old.
Yeah. I think it literally means 'backward' xD as in "out of date and no longer valid" as well as 'past'. But you know, past is a relative term...
I think retro is overused as a term, personally.
True. I mean 5 minutes ago was the past. Anywho, G3 isn't even 20 yet.
Plus if you guys think your old at 20- 30 something, well I'm not sure what you'll be like once you hit your 50s. Ahahaha. ;)
That is beyond bizarre... :shocked: G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I? :cry: Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...
This. Just... this. :cry: How can a toy I liked as a tween already be “retro”!? I’m only 27! Is G3 really old? AM I OLD!? :cry:
I’m both horrified and extremely sad. :cloud:
How do you think I feel? I collected G3's as an adult and now... I'm still an adult but they are retro!? :cry:
I feel like maybe we should all just make our reservations at a retirement home. Then we can hang out with the other senior citizens... playin’ bingo, watching reruns of The Lawrence Welk Show, and chatting about those old G3 ponies we remember getting “back in the day”.
After that, we can complain about the kids of today and their newfangled G5s: “When *I* was their age, we didn’t have any AR apps to go with our My Little Ponies! All we had were mail-in horseshoe points... and we LIKED IT! :shakefist:”
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...
(Not me tho!!!)
XD
G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Shh! You'll doom us! :freak:
No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.
Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie
And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
The twist is . . . they are all still pink.
You'll be able to tell them apart by their "height lights".
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!
Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!
Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?
To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.
It's just odd that they look EXACTLY like the G3's I already own. Like they could be leftovers that some Chinese worker found in a closet in the factory, stashed there 15 years ago. Even the Basic Fun G1's have ways to tell them apart from the original G1 releases, don't they? Slightly different colors, etc.?
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!
Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?
To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.
They do when I click on them. Like, Pinkie Pie's page is titled "My Little Pony Retro Classic Generation 3 - Pinkie Pie".
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!
Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?
To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.
They do when I click on them. Like, Pinkie Pie's page is titled "My Little Pony Retro Classic Generation 3 - Pinkie Pie".
How fun! I love how they look like the original prototype ponies for g3 that they used for all the promo and marketing images! So shiny!
I’m really hoping for some G2. My favorite after G1!
Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't current Fluttershy called something else during G3? This particular coloring and marking reminded me of someone else. Or maybe I'm just getting old. ^.^
Honestly, I'm just glad they didn't decide to remake Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, and Cheerilee. (...yet? :yikes:) The thought of Core Seven returning from the grave in response to M6 angst is like some sort of horrible monkey's paw scenario.“We don’t want Mane 6 anymore!”
The original G3s definitely didn't have turning heads. (They did add that feature mid-way through the gen though.) I used to customize them and my god, the amount of effort it took to get their heads off--! I don't know what kind of glue they used, but it had an incredible hold.Wish they released the name of the glue. Super glue is WEAK compared to the pony stuff :lol:
But...whyyyyy?? Why are they wasting resources remaking ponies that are readily available at every single thrift store, fleamarket, second hand store, etc etc etc?? G3s have very little value as is, why do they think it's a good idea to make them again already? No offense to G3 fans, but this is a dumb decision if you ask me. I'd much rather see more G1s (or G2s) released. Who needs more G3s? >.<
The main six don't really appeal to me, especially as G3s, so hopefully if this line continues they bring out some of the more interesting G3s. I would buy Waterfire in a heartbeat.
Retro? G3? ?? Okay, cool :lol:
But, please don't skip G2! :(
But...whyyyyy?? Why are they wasting resources remaking ponies that are readily available at every single thrift store, fleamarket, second hand store, etc etc etc?? G3s have very little value as is, why do they think it's a good idea to make them again already? No offense to G3 fans, but this is a dumb decision if you ask me. I'd much rather see more G1s (or G2s) released. Who needs more G3s? >.<
Retro? G3? ?? Okay, cool :lol:
But, please don't skip G2! :(
I feel like the might be by Basic Fun because that hair quality looks nice, LOL.
That said, I'd love it if they were made by Hasbro and then the following happened:
1. "Wow, these G3 ponies are selling really well!"
2. "I guess kids like toy ponies that look like ponies! I've learned a valuable lesson!"
3. "Let's make G5 super horse-looking, you guys!"
:P
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.
I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.
I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.
I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.
Literal one trick pony.
Or maybe six trick pony.
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.
I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.
Literal one trick pony.
Or maybe six trick pony.
One trick pink pony..** 😈
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.
Yup, I know. One can dream right? I can only hope that Basic Fun will pick (the real) G2 up one day :P
Speaking of the meh-six, Hasbro is now calling first G1's the 'mane six' as well >.<
G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.
G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.
G1 really didn't have that at all. A lot of kids who might of seen their fave pony in a movie or book had a very narrow window on getting that pony.
G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.
G1 really didn't have that at all. A lot of kids who might of seen their fave pony in a movie or book had a very narrow window on getting that pony.
I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you mean? Apologies! I'm bad with understanding the wording of things sometimes. Do you mean because the sets were produced for such a short period of time?
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Ahh okay, yeah, that makes sense. I guess now that I think about it, that's true, the disconnect between the toys and the media.
I really don't like how they're trying to pull the older gens into their silly Mane 6 hype >n< It's like they think people aren't capable of enjoying anything MLP related when it doesn't pertain to those characters. Which really couldn't be further from the truth because I think that many people agree they'd rather have variety over 13790482 versions of the same pony (*looks mournfully at my shelf of surplus Pinkie Pies that somehow multiply without my permission whenever I get a pony lot*). The lack of variety is one of the things that made me lose interest and take that five-year hiatus from ponies, and one of the reasons I stopped buying G4s from stores. G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.
I'm with everyone on the G2s as well. As one of the generations I barely missed in stores but still grew up with (sorta; PC game and all), it annoys me to see them completely ignored like this. I would most definitely buy repros if they sold them in stores!
On the positive side, I would totally get that Applejack though because I adore the pose for her! G3 Applejack is also a personal fave of mine <3
I understand needing to have core characters in a cartoon series that runs for nine seasons, because it would be confusing to viewers if each episode focused on a different character out of hundreds (because I'm sure there were hundreds of different designs in G3), but I don't see why the toyline has to reflect this. I think they made a mistake in keeping them so closely tied. I've always seen the MLP cartoons and toylines as very seperate which is why "show accuracy" never bothered me.
IMO, they wanted to try something new-- it was the third attempt of having a "core" cast. It went on long enough that something had to be working for them... and the fact they dropped random new characters so early on makes me wonder if that they weren't selling?
It remains to be seen though, if this current strategy will keep working for Hasbro, or if they'll need to reinvent MLP again in some way to keep the brand alive.
Speaking of the meh-six, Hasbro is now calling first G1's the 'mane six' as well >.<
I guess I can see why main 6 succeeded where core 7 failed... Core 7 was a late-line decision, whereas G4 always had the main 6. It's easier to succeed if it's like that all along, rather than completely overhauling the line near the end of its run, you know? Plus G4 had the TV show to back it up...
I understand needing to have core characters in a cartoon series that runs for nine seasons, because it would be confusing to viewers if each episode focused on a different character out of hundreds (because I'm sure there were hundreds of different designs in G3), but I don't see why the toyline has to reflect this. I think they made a mistake in keeping them so closely tied. I've always seen the MLP cartoons and toylines as very seperate which is why "show accuracy" never bothered me.
IMO, they wanted to try something new-- it was the third attempt of having a "core" cast. It went on long enough that something had to be working for them... and the fact they dropped random new characters so early on makes me wonder if that they weren't selling?
Hey Hasbro, can we have some new ponies please? ...Please? G5? Spare G5, Hasbro?
Hey Hasbro, can we have some new ponies please? ...Please? G5? Spare G5, Hasbro?
Ugh, don't get your hopes up, we already know the G5 cartoon is going to have the same cast of six ponies as FiM, just with revamped character designs and storyline. I doubt they're going to change their marketing strategies where the toys are involved. -_-
Hey Hasbro, can we have some new ponies please? ...Please? G5? Spare G5, Hasbro?
Things can change in concept phrase, yeah, but I very much doubt they're going to make such a wild change as "we're keeping the same characters people have come to love from G4" to "we're going to make a whole new cast," as cool as that would be.
They need to feel the hate.
They need to feel the hate.
Hate only fuels their power. Hasbro is run by evil marketing Sith Lords.
There is no way Hasbro is going to change up the main characters. Except maybe nixing Applejack, who sells the worst, but I think it's more likely they will keep her but "un-country-fy" her.
When a new TMNT cartoon is announced, would you ever expect the main characters to be anyone other than Donatello, Michelangelo, Leonardo, and Raphael? And probably Splinter and April O'Neil? Well, a main cast is now the reality for MLP as well.
That's true, MLP didn't used to follow that mold. But now it does. I'm not happy about it, but it is what it is.
I was looking at a lot of Craigslist ponies the other day (all G4s) that consisted of 48 ponies. All but TWO OF THEM were Mane Six.
Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids. Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.
Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids. Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.
Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?
Very well said, LadyM!! I hate the main 6 thing... but I accept that I'm not the target audience.
Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids. Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.
Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5? Most parents won't care that it's a "new" pony design, they just know their kid already has 3 Twilights, 2 Rainbow Dashs, 5 Fluttershys, 3 Apple Jacks, 4 Raritys, and 27 Pinkie Pies. Their child won't need new ponies. If the show wants to have main characters, that's fine, but if they don't change up the toy line, Hasbro is going to lose a bunch of money (and possibly annoy a bunch of parents).
Very well said, LadyM!! I hate the main 6 thing... but I accept that I'm not the target audience.
I fundamentally refuse to believe that the target audience want the same six ponies ad nauseum for the rest of eternity.
I think that does kids a disservice.
I didn't say they did? I just said what we think isn't exactly Hasbro's main priority :/
I didn't say they did? I just said what we think isn't exactly Hasbro's main priority :/
Sometimes the creator of a thing can make remarkably stupid mistakes. They aren't infinitely wise just because they created it.
I think they got dazzled by the brony hype and lost track of the core aim of the toy which was to enchant kids, not young adults looking for memes.
Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?
maybe Hasbro are counting on the "fleeting demographic" thing? Who knows how many kids have been into G4 for that long and are still interested in it. Not all kids hold an interest in the same show for its entire duration, you know?
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.
Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?
maybe Hasbro are counting on the "fleeting demographic" thing? Who knows how many kids have been into G4 for that long and are still interested in it. Not all kids hold an interest in the same show for its entire duration, you know?
this! I mean it's pretty obvious IMO-- they were there because of kids getting in later. I don't believe that the brand was carried by the toyline this round like perhaps in the past generations.
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.
And I didn't disagree with that. But she said "lost track of the core aim of the toy".
IMO there's a difference on what they did with the brand, and what they did with the core toyline and why m6 are shelf warmers and why we didn't get a variety like in the past.
Licensing merchandise was the money maker (AND YES! This did include bronies in their strategy). :shrug: toys were there just to make sure some kid who like FiM later on could get their fave character. That doesn't have to MAKE money if licensing merch is making money for the brand.
G4 was wildly different then the past lines because of the early success of FiM.
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.
And I didn't disagree with that. But she said "lost track of the core aim of the toy".
IMO there's a difference on what they did with the brand, and what they did with the core toyline and why m6 are shelf warmers and why we didn't get a variety like in the past.
Licensing merchandise was the money maker (AND YES! This did include bronies in their strategy). :shrug: toys were there just to make sure some kid who like FiM later on could get their fave character. That doesn't have to MAKE money if licensing merch is making money for the brand.
G4 was wildly different then the past lines because of the early success of FiM.
The core is the toyline. They have lost its identity catering to a fringe adult fad-crowd by overproducing 6 characters and more tellingly out of lazy greed. That is what some people are trying to say.
Kids don't want 50 of the same character. Hasbro has forgotten this.
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.
And I didn't disagree with that. But she said "lost track of the core aim of the toy".
IMO there's a difference on what they did with the brand, and what they did with the core toyline and why m6 are shelf warmers and why we didn't get a variety like in the past.
Licensing merchandise was the money maker (AND YES! This did include bronies in their strategy). :shrug: toys were there just to make sure some kid who like FiM later on could get their fave character. That doesn't have to MAKE money if licensing merch is making money for the brand.
G4 was wildly different then the past lines because of the early success of FiM.
The core is the toyline. They have lost its identity catering to a fringe adult fad-crowd by overproducing 6 characters and more tellingly out of lazy greed. That is what some people are trying to say.
Kids don't want 50 of the same character. Hasbro has forgotten this.
No one is disagreeing with the fact that people don't want 50 of the same characters. (And a few handful of people do like armies, but that's not why this is happening).
Hasbro knows this. We know this. EVERYONE agrees with this.
Putting personal opinion aside, they are only there so kids who get into the show can get the characters they like.
However, the brand is more than the main toyline.
Hasbro didn't forget something. The formula ended up being different this time, and relied on something that wasn't the main toyline. They made money -- which is their objective every time.
Putting personal opinion aside, they are only there so kids who get into the show can get the characters they like.
However, the brand is more than the main toyline.
Putting personal opinion aside, they are only there so kids who get into the show can get the characters they like.
However, the brand is more than the main toyline.
Wellll, technically, the toyline came out before the TV show, so back in the origins of MLP, the 80's, we didn't have a tv show at first to corrupt our imagination into thinking we had to have 20 of the exact same pony. Hell, even when the TV show came out it was sorta a background thing compared to the toyline (at least for me but that's the read I get from most long time collectors) - else Hasbro would have saved money and just made the exact same pony over and over back then.
I think from a company standpoint it's cheaper to produce the same pony over and over and just fab up this idea of the mane 6 characters. It's easier to market than trying to market a whole new group of ponies every year or multiple different sets.
So for the company it's not really about collecting anymore, it's about shoving out the cheapest product they can for the largest amount of money. Even back in the 80's, they were calling MLP a collectable. I've got mail order pamphlets from the 80's that were calling the first 6 ponies collector ponies even back then. So I think in a certain way Hasbro looked at MLP differently than they do now - or at the very least the way they sell them is totally different. It just feels like it's more about shoving out cheap junk than a really great line of unique toys.
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!
Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?
To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.
Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids. Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.
Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?
I will never, EVER in a million years understand poop toys.
Mark my words, that'll be Hasbro's next newest thing. The Mane Suxx as My Little Poopies. :devious: :money:
Poopie Pie
Twilight Shartle
Road Apple
Tootie-shy
Rainbow Scat
And uhh...I can't think of one for Rarity. Someone help me out here. :wonder:
I will never, EVER in a million years understand poop toys.
Mark my words, that'll be Hasbro's next newest thing. The Mane Suxx as My Little Poopies. :devious: :money:
Poopie Pie
Twilight Shartle
Road Apple
Tootie-shy
Rainbow Scat
And uhh...I can't think of one for Rarity. Someone help me out here. :wonder:
I will never, EVER in a million years understand poop toys.
Mark my words, that'll be Hasbro's next newest thing. The Mane Suxx as My Little Poopies. :devious: :money:
Poopie Pie
Twilight Shartle
Road Apple
Tootie-shy
Rainbow Scat
And uhh...I can't think of one for Rarity. Someone help me out here. :wonder:
That reminds me, the other week at the carboot someone was selling some cheap unicorn poop toy thing, and the art on the box was ripped off G3 art...
It's closer than you think.
I think LM has a point but it's a horrible indictment of both the toy industry and kids if correct.
Honestly, I'm just glad they didn't decide to remake Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, and Cheerilee. (...yet? :yikes:) The thought of Core Seven returning from the grave in response to M6 angst is like some sort of horrible monkey's paw scenario.
Omg so cuuuute! Ok, so why did they make this weird new "G1 retro" mould when they had shrunken down G3s all along?
PS: really enjoy this darker pink for Miss Pie and AJ's red has always been beautiful. Did Rainbow always have rainbow colored eyes?
I didn't see where they were shrunken down? :blink: I thought they were normal sized.
I didn't see where they were shrunken down? :blink: I thought they were normal sized.
The G3s appear to be normal sized, but the new retro G1s, like the ones with the Mane 6, are only 3 inches tall!
Omg so cuuuute! Ok, so why did they make this weird new "G1 retro" mould when they had shrunken down G3s all along?
PS: really enjoy this darker pink for Miss Pie and AJ's red has always been beautiful. Did Rainbow always have rainbow colored eyes?
I didn't see where they were shrunken down? :blink: I thought they were normal sized.
Not sure why these would need to be reproduced as the originals are easily available.lol I think it means "high lights but who knows :P
However, I'm not sure what "Height Lights" are.
"Applejack has a shiny, green height lights in tail and mane so your child can give her fun and unique hairstyles"
"Pinkie Pie has a shiny, pink height lights in tail and mane so your child can give her fun and unique hairstyles."
Does it make them look taller? :P
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)
They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)
They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)
They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
Apparently G2 sold better in Europe and it makes me wonder how much Hasbro US had to do with the marketing at the time in Europe... were they already too focussed on G3? Which could possibly explain their annoying lack of interest in G2 :( Weird since the line lasted four more years in here.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)
They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
Apparently G2 sold better in Europe and it makes me wonder how much Hasbro US had to do with the marketing at the time in Europe... were they already too focussed on G3? Which could possibly explain their annoying lack of interest in G2 :( Weird since the line lasted four more years in here.
For saying G2 sold better in Europe, I never find them second hand around here in the UK. I often find G3 and 4, and even G1s a couple of times. I don't think I've ever seen a G2 in real life, and never had any when I was a kid. That's why I'm not that interested in them, and I'm probably not the only one. Hasbro probably knows this and doesn't see the point of remaking G2 a not so many people now/remember it as the other past gens
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)
They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
Apparently G2 sold better in Europe and it makes me wonder how much Hasbro US had to do with the marketing at the time in Europe... were they already too focussed on G3? Which could possibly explain their annoying lack of interest in G2 :( Weird since the line lasted four more years in here.
For saying G2 sold better in Europe, I never find them second hand around here in the UK. I often find G3 and 4, and even G1s a couple of times. I don't think I've ever seen a G2 in real life, and never had any when I was a kid. That's why I'm not that interested in them, and I'm probably not the only one. Hasbro probably knows this and doesn't see the point of remaking G2 when not so many people now/remember it as the other past gens