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Title: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 29, 2019, 03:27:11 PM
Remakes of a few G3 ponies just appeared on Target.com! The ones up there are Applejack, Fluttershy, Pinkie Pie, and Rainbow Dash (so all ones with G4 counterparts). They aren't in stock yet but here are their pages!

Applejack: https://www.target.com/p/my-little-pony/-/A-76159180
Fluttershy: https://www.target.com/p/my-little-pony-retro-classic-generation-3-fluttershy/-/A-76159184
Pinkie Pie: https://www.target.com/p/my-little-pony-retro-classic-generation-3-pinkie-pie/-/A-76159183
Rainbow Dash: https://www.target.com/p/my-little-pony-retro-classic-generation-3-rainbow-dash/-/A-76159181
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on July 29, 2019, 03:58:22 PM
Not sure why these would need to be reproduced as the originals are easily available. 

However, I'm not sure what "Height Lights" are.

"Applejack has a shiny, green height lights in tail and mane so your child can give her fun and unique hairstyles"
"Pinkie Pie has a shiny, pink height lights in tail and mane so your child can give her fun and unique hairstyles."

Does it make them look taller?   :P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: BlushingBlue on July 29, 2019, 04:08:22 PM
What the....  :shocked:

I have so many questions!

Are these the upcoming fall Target exclusives Basic Fun teased at Pony Fair? I was really hoping for halloween-themed ponies, given the proposed timeline, but as a G3 fan I'm not unpleasantly surprised. (Still hoping it's not this though. I want some more spoopy ponies! ST AJ is lonely!) I feel like this can't be Hasbro's doing, since these ponies look pretty spot-on and they don't come in an annoying set of six. :P

But why make these at all? Can there really be a strong nostalgia market for G3s? (...Wait, how old am I? :ack:) The current character line-up is much more in tune with the G4-oriented market. I would think that if they were really tapping in to proper G3 nostalgia we'd see characters like Wysteria, Kimono, MINTY... but I guess this is a safe first pass? It'll be interesting to see if they do any more after these four.

God help me, if they come in cute boxes, I'll probably end up buying them. -_-
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: HollowZero on July 29, 2019, 04:24:16 PM
Really peculiar... Maybe just a last sendoff of G4?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: poniesthatsparkle on July 29, 2019, 04:30:31 PM
I'm pretty excited for these! I was wondering if there would be any G3 releases.

The price is what bothers me, though. These four ponies can easily be found for about $3-$5 each. I don't know if I'd pay $10 for them. Maybe if the packaging is nice.

I'm also curious to see if they put magnets in their hooves. I kinda doubt it but I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 29, 2019, 04:49:00 PM
What the....  :shocked:

I have so many questions!

Are these the upcoming fall Target exclusives Basic Fun teased at Pony Fair? I was really hoping for halloween-themed ponies, given the proposed timeline, but as a G3 fan I'm not unpleasantly surprised. (Still hoping it's not this though. I want some more spoopy ponies! ST AJ is lonely!) I feel like this can't be Hasbro's doing, since these ponies look pretty spot-on and they don't come in an annoying set of six. :P

But why make these at all? Can there really be a strong nostalgia market for G3s? (...Wait, how old am I? :ack:) The current character line-up is much more in tune with the G4-oriented market. I would think that if they were really tapping in to proper G3 nostalgia we'd see characters like Wysteria, Kimono, MINTY... but I guess this is a safe first pass? It'll be interesting to see if they do any more after these four.

God help me, if they come in cute boxes, I'll probably end up buying them. -_-

This is very unusual. Who is this made by?

I'd bite for Kimono, Razzaroo and Twilight Twinkle.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 29, 2019, 04:55:24 PM
This is very unusual. Who is this made by?

That's what I was thinking. I will be disappointed if this is BF.

Height Lights just sounds like a typo for highlights
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 29, 2019, 04:58:10 PM
This is very unusual. Who is this made by?

That's what I was thinking. I will be disappointed if this is BF.

Height Lights just sounds like a typo for highlights

Or what you'd put on your pent house suite.  :lol:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: gemini_pony on July 29, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
I want! I missed the boat on G3s and it's impossible to find them in my area second hand . Also G3 is my favorite
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 29, 2019, 05:03:57 PM
Whelp! All we need is for the G2 Retros to show up and we'll be golden in terms of gen coverage.

Seriously though, I'm not sure what to make of this?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Galactica on July 29, 2019, 05:21:13 PM
How curious

They do indeed appear to be identical to the originals-  according to what I see on ebay.  Pretty cheap and easy to get though- I wonder if any of them will sell?  Maybe if the packaging is interesting enough ?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: starbritesprinkles on July 29, 2019, 05:24:37 PM
Well, these are... interesting. I'll probably skip them unless the packaging is nice, though.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Harmonie on July 29, 2019, 05:54:57 PM
All y'all are like "I have questions!" and I'm like: :frolic:

I got into MLP G3 post-G3, so I've never actually been able to buy them new off of shelves. Perhaps it's a silly thing to be excited for. I also don't own any of the G3's listed, so they'd be new for me.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: MoonShadow on July 29, 2019, 06:04:07 PM
That is beyond bizarre...  :shocked:  G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I?  :cry:   Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...

I kind of hope these are not BF unless they get the whole DPCI issue sorted...  If this set has the same item number as the 80s retros, I fear Target will have trouble getting everything on the shelf.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 29, 2019, 06:10:01 PM
If the packaging is cute, I'll get them, but I'm not too enthused because no Sunny Daze and the originals are cheaper than the selling price...
Title: Re: G3 \"Retro\" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 29, 2019, 06:28:06 PM
All y'all are like "I have questions!" and I'm like: :frolic:

I got into MLP G3 post-G3, so I've never actually been able to buy them new off of shelves. Perhaps it's a silly thing to be excited for. I also don't own any of the G3's listed, so they'd be new for me.

Its never silly to buy something you like new off a shelf.  ^.^

Post Merge: July 29, 2019, 06:29:36 PM

That is beyond bizarre...  :shocked:  G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I?  :cry:   Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...

I kind of hope these are not BF unless they get the whole DPCI issue sorted...  If this set has the same item number as the 80s retros, I fear Target will have trouble getting everything on the shelf.

I wonder if it's Hasbro selling these? Tbh, when they said retro G3s, I thought they were talking about selling the G3 M6 singularly.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Ragamuffin on July 29, 2019, 06:34:36 PM
IM GOING TO MCFREAKIN LOSE IT

They look so good!! A walking pose Pinkie without tinsel...! For Twilight though, assuming they do her, are they going with Twilight Twinkle? I always thought Twilight Twinkle = Twilight Sparkle was a stretch...
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 29, 2019, 06:37:01 PM
IM GOING TO MCFREAKIN LOSE IT

They look so good!! A walking pose Pinkie without tinsel...! For Twilight though, assuming they do her, are they going with Twilight Twinkle? I always thought Twilight Twinkle = Twilight Sparkle was a stretch...

I would not mind. Twilight Twinkle is very pretty, plus I love jewel ponies.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Ragamuffin on July 29, 2019, 06:46:06 PM
I'm interested to see Twilight and Rarity... these four are easy since they're in the same pose, but Rarity and Twilight Twinkle are in different poses, both from the others and from each other. Maybe they won't do them at all. Which is sort of odd, because Twilight Sparkle is Hasbro's favourite.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 29, 2019, 06:47:54 PM
I'm interested to see Twilight and Rarity... these four are easy since they're in the same pose, but Rarity and Twilight Twinkle are in different poses, both from the others and from each other. Maybe they won't do them at all. Which is sort of odd, because Twilight Sparkle is Hasbro's favourite.  :rolleyes:

I've come to appreciate G3 Rarity as of late. Though I've got my eye on the one with the 3D heart and ribbon.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 29, 2019, 08:03:25 PM
Interesting!  Are they by Basic Fun?

It's not a bad choice, because when I sell at toy fairs G3s are really REALLY popular with kids.  I sell way more than G1s, to be honest.  Maybe because G1s look more calm and G3s look more hyped?

I get the "but they're $3 at thrift stores!" thinking, but the fact is most parents don't shop for birthday gifts at thrift stores, they go to the toy section of Target or Walmart or wherever.  Gotta see a pony before you can buy a pony . . .
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 29, 2019, 08:28:29 PM
Interesting!  Are they by Basic Fun?

I don't think we know yet. I had found out about them from Pony Toy News reporting on them, and they seemed pretty sure it was Hasbro, but looking at the Target listings, it doesn't seem to say who is making them. I guess we'll find out for sure in the somewhat near future?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 29, 2019, 08:41:22 PM
I'd love it if they made a gift pack with a pony of every generation (but I don't mind if they skip G3.5, ha ha) someday, but I guess that would be tricky with Basic Fun currently holding the G1 mold license and Hasbro having the G4 mold license.

Maybe someday . . . They made a Ghostbusters / Transformers crossover car this year, that shows crazy things are possible.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 05:22:10 AM
This is really interesting, totally weird and I genuinely don't know how to react to it o.O.

If they came here I might actually buy AJ, just because my sister brought hers back from Australia and so I never tried to obtain her from new, but wouldn't mind if they brought a new one out. But I'm more curious to know the thought processes behind these.

If it's Hasbro, then it would explain why the mishmash M6 set of so called retro ponies look so much like G3 in their body structure.

If it's Basic Fun, it will suggest they're branching out, though I don't want G3 to be the rest of the BF line, personally. I'd rather it was Hasbro, since there's a chance Hasbro actually remember what these look like.

But all this reaching back into the past highlights a struggling current line, since up till the BF retros, Hasbro weren't interested in the older stuff. Yet here we are.

I think from a US company, G2 is unlikely though.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 30, 2019, 06:24:02 AM
I believe these might be by basic fun based on the UPC.

From what I read the first 6? Numbers on the UPC are indentifiers for the company.

Can anyone confirm.

I'm just sad because I'd rather basic fun focus more on g1... If I wanted g3 they are so easy to find second hand. selfish opinion.

Also it's interesting we have Applejack.. Fluttershy.. etc
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: tootie_tails on July 30, 2019, 06:51:51 AM
G3s are retro now? Those look nice but what I would really love is new G3s, as in new characters instead.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Sunset on July 30, 2019, 06:58:50 AM
I feel like the choice of characters strongly suggest a Hasbro release.  I find it unlikely that Hasbro would let another company use so many of their primary characters.  And it fits in with the idea of that Amazon set that’s coming out.  The mane 6 through the ages type thing.

If Basic Fun is making these then I find it surprising that they wouldn’t choose to make the first set of g3 released.  So far all of their releases have been by set not by “popular character”.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 07:05:08 AM
Figure from "My Little Pony" also suggests Hasbro, because that's their trademark, not Basic Fun's. On Amazon UK, at least, all the Retros have Basic Fun in the title.

But Banditpony does have a point about the UPC being similar.

Although when you google basic fun UPC it looks more like it might be the type of toy (ie MLP) than the company? BF seems to have a few very different UPC as well..
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on July 30, 2019, 07:07:06 AM
Can someone post photos/screenshots please? The pages won't load for me :(
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 30, 2019, 07:07:27 AM
I was basing it off of first 8 digits
"88556135" which is on a lot of other basic fun ponies.

I'm at work so besides checking a few ponies, I can't do any more than that.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 30, 2019, 07:32:18 AM
Can someone post photos/screenshots please? The pages won't load for me :(

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Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 30, 2019, 07:41:42 AM
I wonder if they'll have magnets.  Might depend if they were removed due to safety concerns vs cost concerns in the original G3 line.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2019, 07:51:22 AM
I wonder if we'll see more then these four?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: skywlshes on July 30, 2019, 08:40:18 AM
I've been hoping for G3 repros ever since G4 started :')
I'm really happy ! I hope they make other ponies than these but I doubt it.
I'm gonna get Pinkie Pie. Not that she's a favorite but she is G3's biggest icon after all. And, she's pink. We love that don't we ? lol
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 08:58:27 AM
I've been hoping for G3 repros ever since G4 started :')
I'm really happy ! I hope they make other ponies than these but I doubt it.
I'm gonna get Pinkie Pie. Not that she's a favorite but she is G3's biggest icon after all. And, she's pink. We love that don't we ? lol


I thought Minty was that...the way people talk about her.

The world has too many Pinkie Pies. We don't need more...O.O
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: EnaRocketQueen on July 30, 2019, 09:06:27 AM

The world has too many Pinkie Pies. We don't need more...O.O

That's true but I'd take G3 ones over G4 ones any day!!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on July 30, 2019, 09:22:16 AM
I think G3 is my least favorite generation.  I just don't care for it.  I like that there were so many poses/colors/characters, but I just...don't care for it.:shrug:  I think that's why I was so okay with using them for customs. 
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 09:29:24 AM

The world has too many Pinkie Pies. We don't need more...O.O

That's true but I'd take G3 ones over G4 ones any day!!

Me too - but less is more!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Galactica on July 30, 2019, 09:34:37 AM
I will admit I am oddly tempted to get a couple-  but then I will feel stupid having donated all my G3s including NRFB ponies so many years ago...  :biggrin:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Barnacle_lady on July 30, 2019, 09:37:29 AM
Special box or something like "the first 50" Pinkie Pie will do for me :)
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 30, 2019, 09:47:50 AM
For me it's going to be all about how they package it.  If the box is super cool then I'll buy at least one.  Probably Applejack, I love her bold colors.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Artemesia's Garden on July 30, 2019, 10:17:39 AM
I think the appeal of the G1 retro ponies is about having thewm in nice condition, and since my G3s are pretty good still I'm not sure I'll indulge. But it might be nice to have a de-boxing experience anyway :)
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 30, 2019, 10:25:43 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2019, 11:07:17 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 30, 2019, 11:16:53 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

g3 and g4 was just a test run, you see... To get us used to 200 rereleases of Pinkie Pies ...

Core 7 psh
Mane 6 nah

We only need pinkie pie!!!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 11:18:57 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 30, 2019, 11:23:10 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.

Can they all power up and pilot a giant Trojan horse Mecha in the form of our beloved Pinkie Pie?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on July 30, 2019, 11:28:19 AM
I am soooooo confused by this release. And I hope it doesn't mean that BF are done with retro G1
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2019, 11:29:46 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.

Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.

Can they all power up and pilot a giant Trojan horse Mecha in the form of our beloved Pinkie Pie?


:rofl:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 30, 2019, 11:42:18 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.

The twist is . . . they are all still pink.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 30, 2019, 11:47:50 AM

The twist is . . . they are all still pink.

Nice!!! XD
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2019, 11:50:38 AM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.

The twist is . . . they are all still pink.


Nuuuu!  :shocked:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 30, 2019, 12:20:10 PM
You guys are going to give Hasbro ideas! :P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on July 30, 2019, 01:28:54 PM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.

The twist is . . . they are all still pink.

You'll be able to tell them apart by their "height lights".
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Nemesis on July 30, 2019, 01:46:32 PM
That is beyond bizarre...  :shocked:  G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I?  :cry:   Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...

This. Just... this. :cry: How can a toy I liked as a tween already be “retro”!? I’m only 27! Is G3 really old? AM I OLD!? :cry:

I’m both horrified and extremely sad. :cloud:

My dearest hope is that they sell like hotcakes though, and Hasbro decides to make G5 reminiscent of G3 or G1. I like G4. Honest. I liked 3.5, too. ...But I’m getting really tired of stylized, chibi ponies with giant, round heads, massive hooves, and microscopic muzzles.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
@Pokeyone :lol:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on July 30, 2019, 02:23:38 PM
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!

Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?

Okay but nitpicking aside - wow, these came out of nowhere! I wonder who made them.. and if there'll be more... and... eeeeeeeeeeeEEEE APPLEJACK!!! When I saw the first post I was half-worried they'd be G3 versions of the G4 designs (although I guess that would've been cool too), I'm so glad it's the proper G3 counterparts. I love G3 AJ ^_^

Still, how weird! I wonder if they'll make any more. I wouldn't say no to a new Minty ;) And yessss G2 retros next please!!!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: skywlshes on July 30, 2019, 02:31:29 PM
i wonder when they'll be on sale though  :huh:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Harmonie on July 30, 2019, 02:38:56 PM
The thing that makes me wonder about this is that they're only (as of now) rereleasing G3 counterparts of the G4 mane 6. Of course, it could easily be that those are just the first ones they chose to release, but it is a little odd to me. I hope they branch out.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Dragonflitter on July 30, 2019, 02:44:43 PM
That is beyond bizarre...  :shocked:  G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I?  :cry:   Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...

This. Just... this. :cry: How can a toy I liked as a tween already be “retro”!? I’m only 27! Is G3 really old? AM I OLD!? :cry:

I’m both horrified and extremely sad. :cloud:


How do you think I feel? I collected G3's as an adult and now... I'm still an adult but they are retro!?  :cry:

This is really weird. (Is it also weird that there's absolutely no picture of the packaging on the site? Or is that normal for some pre-released toys?)

It's just odd that they look EXACTLY like the G3's I already own. Like they could be leftovers that some Chinese worker found in a closet in the factory, stashed there 15 years ago. Even the Basic Fun G1's have ways to tell them apart from the original G1 releases, don't they? Slightly different colors, etc.?

The whole thing just feels like a joke. Here's a picture of a 'retro' pony that was sold less than 15 years ago with no picture of packaging and could very well be a photo of one of the original released toy, it's so similar.

I mean, I'm not saying it's a joke, it's just so WEIRD. And we don't even know which company is putting it out...
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on July 30, 2019, 02:52:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if those ARE photos of the original G3s. It's happened before. (Anyone remember the Running Press Firefly debacle? You know, how the original stock photos had a G1 Firefly photoshopped into them instead of the actual mini-Firefly toy?)

Heck, I also wouldn't be surprised if it turns out those are the photos they used the for the original releases...! It'd explain the lack of in-package photos, too. I hope they go up for sale soon so we can see what's going on here.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Nemesis on July 30, 2019, 03:02:25 PM
That is beyond bizarre...  :shocked:  G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I?  :cry:   Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...

This. Just... this. :cry: How can a toy I liked as a tween already be “retro”!? I’m only 27! Is G3 really old? AM I OLD!? :cry:

I’m both horrified and extremely sad. :cloud:


How do you think I feel? I collected G3's as an adult and now... I'm still an adult but they are retro!?  :cry:

I feel like maybe we should all just make our reservations at a retirement home. Then we can hang out with the other senior citizens... playin’ bingo, watching reruns of The Lawrence Welk Show, and chatting about those old G3 ponies we remember getting “back in the day”.

After that, we can complain about the kids of today and their newfangled G5s: “When *I* was their age, we didn’t have any AR apps to go with our My Little Ponies! All we had were mail-in horseshoe points... and we LIKED IT! :shakefist:”
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 03:14:29 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if those ARE photos of the original G3s. It's happened before. (Anyone remember the Running Press Firefly debacle? You know, how the original stock photos had a G1 Firefly photoshopped into them instead of the actual mini-Firefly toy?)

Heck, I also wouldn't be surprised if it turns out those are the photos they used the for the original releases...! It'd explain the lack of in-package photos, too. I hope they go up for sale soon so we can see what's going on here.

I thought that, but Pinkie Pie has no tinsel. And the original had tinsel. If I remember rightly. I don't own her but my sister does, and she has a talent for making a pony's hair look like a bush disaster by taking it out of the package.

@Banditpony, they can be Super Uber Mecha Power Pinkie Pie.

And yes, of course they'd all be pink. What other colour is there??

As for feeling old, I resigned the need to mentally age when I hit 30, and have been in denial ever since.

My father always says he's thirty something plus tax. (He's 76). I'm going to follow his example.

But yeah, I was 15 when G2 came out and 21 when G3 came out. I graduated my first degree with the original Rainbow Dash O.o.

If they're vintage and retro, I don't really want to think what I am - but maybe instead of worrying about jobs and pensions going forward, I'll just check myself into a museum instead.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2019, 03:18:08 PM
Retro simply means emulating or going back to an older style. So no, they're not that old.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 03:20:34 PM
Retro simply means emulating or going back to an older style. So no, they're not that old.

Yeah. I think it literally means 'backward' xD as in "out of date and no longer valid" as well as 'past'. But you know, past is a relative term...

I think retro is overused as a term, personally.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on July 30, 2019, 03:22:45 PM
Oh, good call on the tinsel thing. I always forget which G3s do/don't have that.

I wonder if Hasbro still have any G3 molds around. If they do then that probably explains why they look exactly like the original releases (well, more or less).

And I definitely agree that "retro" is an overused word these days.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 30, 2019, 03:23:34 PM
Retro simply means emulating or going back to an older style. So no, they're not that old.

Yeah. I think it literally means 'backward' xD as in "out of date and no longer valid" as well as 'past'. But you know, past is a relative term...

I think retro is overused as a term, personally.

True. I mean 5 minutes ago was the past. Anywho, G3 isn't even 20 yet.


Plus if you guys think your old at 20- 30 something, well I'm not sure what you'll be like once you hit your 50s. Ahahaha. ;)
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 30, 2019, 03:25:07 PM
Retro simply means emulating or going back to an older style. So no, they're not that old.

Yeah. I think it literally means 'backward' xD as in "out of date and no longer valid" as well as 'past'. But you know, past is a relative term...

I think retro is overused as a term, personally.

True. I mean 5 minutes ago was the past. Anywho, G3 isn't even 20 yet.


Plus if you guys think your old at 20- 30 something, well I'm not sure what you'll be like once you hit your 50s. Ahahaha. ;)

Given the state of the world, either the environment or national politics will have exploded us by then, so I try not to worry about it too much ;)

I guess my answer would be, eligible to be a museum exhibit ;)
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: MoonShadow on July 30, 2019, 03:25:21 PM
That is beyond bizarre...  :shocked:  G3 can't be retro!?! How old am I?  :cry:   Feels like I just purchased these girls new... not sure if I need to do so again...

This. Just... this. :cry: How can a toy I liked as a tween already be “retro”!? I’m only 27! Is G3 really old? AM I OLD!? :cry:

I’m both horrified and extremely sad. :cloud:


How do you think I feel? I collected G3's as an adult and now... I'm still an adult but they are retro!?  :cry:

I feel like maybe we should all just make our reservations at a retirement home. Then we can hang out with the other senior citizens... playin’ bingo, watching reruns of The Lawrence Welk Show, and chatting about those old G3 ponies we remember getting “back in the day”.

After that, we can complain about the kids of today and their newfangled G5s: “When *I* was their age, we didn’t have any AR apps to go with our My Little Ponies! All we had were mail-in horseshoe points... and we LIKED IT! :shakefist:”

I'm game!  Meet you at the social security office so we can start drawing retirement!  Hasbro will vouch for us on the age thing! lol
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Harmonie on July 30, 2019, 03:57:35 PM
I remember several years ago when I was listening to a classic rock/hits station and they played "Smooth" by Santana, a song from either 1999 or 2000. I was like "What?! No, that can not be. That can not possibly count as a classic song yet. I remember when that song was big and I'm still young!"

MLP G3 began sometime in 2003, did it not? Most people don't seem to have a lot of problem with considering things from the 90s as classic/retro now. G3 MLP started just a few years later. The years are passing by.

TBH, G3 felt distant even when I got into collecting them back in 2014. Although of course G3 lasted quite a while so it wasn't as far away as I thought, but the ones I like the best are typically from the early to mid 00s, a long time ago now in my mind, and let me note I was in high school when G3 MLP started, so saying that does make me feel old. It's just reality, though.  :lol:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: achab1984 on July 30, 2019, 04:31:02 PM
Oh this is very interesting! I cant wait to see that package they are coming in!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: BubbleTea on July 30, 2019, 05:04:48 PM
Maybe people DO love pinkie pie after all...

(Not me tho!!!)

XD

G5... Nothing but Pinkie Pie.

Shh! You'll doom us!  :freak:

No. It will be Pinkie Pie and her crew.

Greenie Pie
Bluey Pie
Goldie Pie
Reddy Pie

And probably, at this rate, Pewdie Pie as well.

The twist is . . . they are all still pink.

You'll be able to tell them apart by their "height lights".

Y'all are so funny and weird :P. I love this forum
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 30, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!

Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?

To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Harmonie on July 30, 2019, 05:27:06 PM
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!

Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?

To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.

They do when I click on them. Like, Pinkie Pie's page is titled "My Little Pony Retro Classic Generation 3 - Pinkie Pie".
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: starbritesprinkles on July 30, 2019, 05:58:25 PM
The first G3s were released in 2003, so yeah... I guess they could be called "retro." I turned 18 that year, bought my first two - Kimono and Pinkie Pie - at Kay-Bee Toys that summer. Something interesting to note with these is that the Applejack and Rainbow Dash in the links are looking forward, but the originals were released at the beginning of the G3 line when the neck seams were sealed in place. That pose looks to the left.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: BlushingBlue on July 30, 2019, 06:08:27 PM
It's just odd that they look EXACTLY like the G3's I already own. Like they could be leftovers that some Chinese worker found in a closet in the factory, stashed there 15 years ago. Even the Basic Fun G1's have ways to tell them apart from the original G1 releases, don't they? Slightly different colors, etc.?

They aren't quiiiiite exact. Retro Applejack has her mane in two bi-coloured chunks of green and yellow instead of the original's alternating stripes. Retro Rainbow Dash's mane inexplicably goes pink-green-yellow-orange instead of in proper rainbow order. Retro Fluttershy's body color is more warm-toned than the original. I also feel like they fudged a little bit with the RD/AJ pose, but I can't put my finger on what it is... something about the head seems off, like the chin is too high?

They are very, very close to the originals though, right down to all the little details in their eyes and symbols. Which, ironically, was my first clue that they aren't made by Hasbro. XD It would have been nice to take this opportunity to make them with double-sided symbols, but I suppose that's not authentically cheap. Nice to see they aren't plagued with tinsel so far, though. G3 was absolutely lousy with the stuff, and I'll be glad to see it lost to history. :lol:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Dragonflitter on July 30, 2019, 07:02:49 PM
Oooo good eyes! I guess these are real then, and not some placeholder photos until the actual products are ready. I am so curious about what the packaging will say...
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on July 30, 2019, 07:04:02 PM
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!

Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?

To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.

They do when I click on them. Like, Pinkie Pie's page is titled "My Little Pony Retro Classic Generation 3 - Pinkie Pie".

Yeah, that's why I said it. I wasn't getting at you or anything, TBPF42 :)
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 30, 2019, 07:21:04 PM
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!

Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?

To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.

They do when I click on them. Like, Pinkie Pie's page is titled "My Little Pony Retro Classic Generation 3 - Pinkie Pie".

Oh, that they do. :P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Mermaid on July 30, 2019, 08:57:56 PM
How fun! I love how they look like the original prototype ponies for g3 that they used for all the promo and marketing images! So shiny!

I’m really hoping for some G2. My favorite after G1!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 on July 30, 2019, 09:35:15 PM
How fun! I love how they look like the original prototype ponies for g3 that they used for all the promo and marketing images! So shiny!

I’m really hoping for some G2. My favorite after G1!

I would love some G2 ones! I'd be great to get some G2s released in the US that weren't originally!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Wind~Whistler on July 30, 2019, 11:15:16 PM
Is it just me, or do these “new G3s” have shorter upper lashes? Not to mention their heads turn, which the original releases didn’t do AFAIK. I don’t have a G3 with me right now, so I may be wrong :P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 30, 2019, 11:56:46 PM
The original G3s definitely didn't have turning heads.  (They did add that feature mid-way through the gen though.)  I used to customize them and my god, the amount of effort it took to get their heads off--!  I don't know what kind of glue they used, but it had an incredible hold.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Sky_Rocket_Sammie on July 31, 2019, 12:04:53 AM
Isn't there a pack of the core six that's a mix of Hasbro era and Basic Fun retro mashed with G4?  Was thinking I'd find those but single packed. Hopefully, these are what the photos are showing and no bait (ha!) and switch. Have been boots on the ground since G3 debuted, get off my lawn kids.! :lol:

Given I missed out on Fluttershy and AJ in G3 and if these are what's being shown: give me! Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't current Fluttershy called something else during G3? This particular coloring and marking reminded me of someone else. Or maybe I'm just getting old. ^.^
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2019, 12:11:13 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't current Fluttershy called something else during G3? This particular coloring and marking reminded me of someone else. Or maybe I'm just getting old. ^.^

Current Fluttershy - as in that design - doesn't exist in G3. I have this feeling Avalonia had butterflies as a symbol though, and was a pegasus (but she's pink).

Though in a way G4 Fluttershy seems more like a dumbing down of Dancing Butterflies crossed with Posey :/

The pose for AJ and Dash bothers me too in those images, since it's been turned forward.

It's all very strange and weird. But strangest and weirdest that if you're going to go this far, you'd think you'd get Rarity and *something* (probably Twilight Twinkle) for Twilight Sparkle as well.

Hasbro are the ones fixated on the M6 so any other company would have to be directed towards producing the ponies that they took M6 names for. But I guess we'll see when someone finds them in store.

Aren't G3 the generation that is most not liked by G4 fans, though? I wonder how it will work out.

Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: BlushingBlue on July 31, 2019, 12:42:11 AM
Honestly, I'm just glad they didn't decide to remake Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, and Cheerilee. (...yet? :yikes:) The thought of Core Seven returning from the grave in response to M6 angst is like some sort of horrible monkey's paw scenario.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taxel on July 31, 2019, 12:52:22 AM
I don't have words for how confused I am.

I won't lie, if the packaging is cool or interesting I'll probably grab at least one. I missed basically all of the BF G1s because of Life Reasons so I won't let the G3s pass me by if they're cool. But I still just... don't understand where its coming from.

The main six don't really appeal to me, especially as G3s, so hopefully if this line continues they bring out some of the more interesting G3s. I would buy Waterfire in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Wind~Whistler on July 31, 2019, 12:57:21 AM
Honestly, I'm just glad they didn't decide to remake Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, and Cheerilee. (...yet? :yikes:) The thought of Core Seven returning from the grave in response to M6 angst is like some sort of horrible monkey's paw scenario.
“We don’t want Mane 6 anymore!”
“Fine, go and play with you shiny new Core 7 pony then” :P
That would really suck.

The original G3s definitely didn't have turning heads.  (They did add that feature mid-way through the gen though.)  I used to customize them and my god, the amount of effort it took to get their heads off--!  I don't know what kind of glue they used, but it had an incredible hold.
Wish they released the name of the glue. Super glue is WEAK compared to the pony stuff  :lol:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on July 31, 2019, 01:05:30 AM
No, the Fluttershy pictured made is definitely G3 Fluttershy. The yellow/pink design was made for G4.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Moonbreeze on July 31, 2019, 03:13:33 AM
Retro? G3? ?? Okay, cool   :lol:

But, please don't skip G2! :(
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Teddy on July 31, 2019, 08:32:57 AM
But...whyyyyy?? Why are they wasting resources remaking ponies that are readily available at every single thrift store, fleamarket, second hand store, etc etc etc?? G3s have very little value as is, why do they think it's a good idea to make them again already? No offense to G3 fans, but this is a dumb decision if you ask me. I'd much rather see more G1s (or G2s) released. Who needs more G3s? >.<
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2019, 09:15:20 AM
But...whyyyyy?? Why are they wasting resources remaking ponies that are readily available at every single thrift store, fleamarket, second hand store, etc etc etc?? G3s have very little value as is, why do they think it's a good idea to make them again already? No offense to G3 fans, but this is a dumb decision if you ask me. I'd much rather see more G1s (or G2s) released. Who needs more G3s? >.<

Me. But if only if they were making other characters.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Dragonflitter on July 31, 2019, 09:17:44 AM
The main six don't really appeal to me, especially as G3s, so hopefully if this line continues they bring out some of the more interesting G3s. I would buy Waterfire in a heartbeat.

Oh man yes I remember how popular she was when she first appeared. And have you seen her de-tinseled? :drool:

I do wish Basic Fun would release more rare remakes. I don't need more of the Year 2 ponies, I need Mimic and baby TAF! How about Baby Honoluloo instead of more G3 Pinkie Pie? :P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Galactica on July 31, 2019, 09:30:14 AM
Retro? G3? ?? Okay, cool   :lol:

But, please don't skip G2! :(

I think if they are going from G1 to G3 it doesn't bode well for G2...
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 31, 2019, 10:50:41 AM
I too think G2 is unlikely.

But...whyyyyy?? Why are they wasting resources remaking ponies that are readily available at every single thrift store, fleamarket, second hand store, etc etc etc?? G3s have very little value as is, why do they think it's a good idea to make them again already? No offense to G3 fans, but this is a dumb decision if you ask me. I'd much rather see more G1s (or G2s) released. Who needs more G3s? >.<

It's not a waste for them if it turns a profit and G3s were an incredibly popular line with kids.  Hasbro made a lot of money in the G3 era, without a lot of extra advertising. (No TV show.)

I think mostly these will be picked up by kids and possibly by twenty-somethings who had G3s as a kid.

I love thrift stores, but most people don't go to the thrift store to shop for toys for their kids.  You don't know where any of the toys have been, if there was a recall on them, if they were made with lead paint, or what.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Foxtale on July 31, 2019, 11:04:06 AM
I was totally shocked ot see these!

Do we have confirmation on the manufacturer yet?

It's interesting that they are doing the G3 ponies that correlate to FIM.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: tailrustedtealeaf on July 31, 2019, 11:05:37 AM
G3 are becoming more scarce in thrift anyway...I'm seeing more and more G4. I fleshed out a lot of my G3 collection by picking up cheap lots at thrift stores and my local toy consignment, but it's slowing to a trickle.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 31, 2019, 11:10:20 AM
I feel like the might be by Basic Fun because that hair quality looks nice, LOL.

That said, I'd love it if they were made by Hasbro and then the following happened:

1.  "Wow, these G3 ponies are selling really well!"
2. "I guess kids like toy ponies that look like ponies!  I've learned a valuable lesson!"
3. "Let's make G5 super horse-looking, you guys!"

:P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: otocolobus_manul on July 31, 2019, 11:16:16 AM
Retro? G3? ?? Okay, cool   :lol:

But, please don't skip G2! :(

Retro g2s would be the BEST THING EVER. Too bad no company who makes MLP has ever made a decision that good.

Also, I'm torn over these - on one hand, I see easily a dozen of each for $1 a piece whenever I go to the flea market, and g3s are fairly easy to come by MIB, unlike g1s. On the other... I grew up with g3 but lost interest in them at a very young age, so I don't remember them all that well. To be able to go into the store and see/buy new g3s...

I'll probably get Applejack, at least. Why didn't they keep her g3 colors for her g4 design? It looks much better than her g1 design, and the popping colors would probably make her more popular with kids, leading to more Applejack toys being bought, leading to more Applejack toys being made.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2019, 11:28:37 AM
I feel like the might be by Basic Fun because that hair quality looks nice, LOL.

That said, I'd love it if they were made by Hasbro and then the following happened:

1.  "Wow, these G3 ponies are selling really well!"
2. "I guess kids like toy ponies that look like ponies!  I've learned a valuable lesson!"
3. "Let's make G5 super horse-looking, you guys!"

:P

Yes.
Yes!
Yes!!

Unfortunately, Hasbro has let these six characters take full control of their brains and MLP is doomed probably.  :nope:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2019, 11:49:58 AM
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.

I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 31, 2019, 12:09:05 PM
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.

I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.

I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2019, 12:15:30 PM
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.

I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.

I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.

Literal one trick pony.

Or maybe six trick pony.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 31, 2019, 12:19:45 PM
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.

I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.

I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.

Literal one trick pony.

Or maybe six trick pony.

One trick pink pony..** 😈
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2019, 12:22:05 PM
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.

I don't mind retro G3 coming out, so long as they don't stop retro G1 coming. And if I have to choose, these as the Target exclusive would make me happy, as I would rather the G1s travelled.

I've had it with Hasbro's obsession.

Literal one trick pony.

Or maybe six trick pony.

One trick pink pony..** 😈

Gah. Probably.

We're back to that again. Ponies to the power of Pie.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on July 31, 2019, 12:26:43 PM
Exactly!!!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: JazzMatazz on July 31, 2019, 06:57:57 PM
I'm going to need the Applejack if these release. I like this pose more than her original g3 one!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Moonbreeze on August 01, 2019, 03:52:56 AM
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.


Yup, I know. One can dream right? I can only hope that Basic Fun will pick (the real) G2 up one day :P
Speaking of the meh-six, Hasbro is now calling first G1's the 'mane six' as well >.<

Anyhow! Back OT, I might get AJ though :)
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Post by: Pinkie21 on August 01, 2019, 05:39:52 AM
Oh I need these so badly! 
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Post by: Taffeta on August 01, 2019, 05:43:08 AM
G2 is basically written out of pony history in the US narrative, to the point the annoying bronies call Tales G2 instead. Since Hasbro is in love with brony-verse and mane-six-ness, I can see this as being them. No other company would care about manesix named G3 ponies. But they do look like nice quality for current Hasbro. Of course they could be yet another company. There are so many questions.


Yup, I know. One can dream right? I can only hope that Basic Fun will pick (the real) G2 up one day :P
Speaking of the meh-six, Hasbro is now calling first G1's the 'mane six' as well >.<

Yeah. The historian in me despises anachronism.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 01, 2019, 08:05:12 AM
Hasbro is just getting worse and worse with MLP.
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Post by: MerryAnvil on August 01, 2019, 08:23:10 AM
I really don't like how they're trying to pull the older gens into their silly Mane 6 hype >n< It's like they think people aren't capable of enjoying anything MLP related when it doesn't pertain to those characters. Which really couldn't be further from the truth because I think that many people agree they'd rather have variety over 13790482 versions of the same pony (*looks mournfully at my shelf of surplus Pinkie Pies that somehow multiply without my permission whenever I get a pony lot*). The lack of variety is one of the things that made me lose interest and take that five-year hiatus from ponies, and one of the reasons I stopped buying G4s from stores. G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.

I'm with everyone on the G2s as well. As one of the generations I barely missed in stores but still grew up with (sorta; PC game and all), it annoys me to see them completely ignored like this. I would most definitely buy repros if they sold them in stores!

On the positive side, I would totally get that Applejack though because I adore the pose for her! G3 Applejack is also a personal fave of mine <3
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Post by: banditpony on August 01, 2019, 08:36:40 AM
G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.

G1 really didn't have that at all. A lot of kids who might of seen their fave pony in a movie or book had a very narrow window on getting that pony.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: MerryAnvil on August 01, 2019, 08:52:06 AM
G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.

G1 really didn't have that at all. A lot of kids who might of seen their fave pony in a movie or book had a very narrow window on getting that pony.

I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you mean? Apologies! I'm bad with understanding the wording of things sometimes. Do you mean because the sets were produced for such a short period of time?
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Post by: banditpony on August 01, 2019, 09:17:29 AM
G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.

G1 really didn't have that at all. A lot of kids who might of seen their fave pony in a movie or book had a very narrow window on getting that pony.

I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you mean? Apologies! I'm bad with understanding the wording of things sometimes. Do you mean because the sets were produced for such a short period of time?

In my opinion if there was an iconic character for g1, it would have to be some of them from either an animated cartoon or a book.

But there weren't a staple of ponies being rereleased so kids could have their faves. And I could be corrected but even merch didn't focus specifically on a main set of ponies. It kept changing with time.
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 01, 2019, 09:43:58 AM
G1 didn't really have any iconic characters in the US.  It had iconic toys, but they were never marketed as characters, if that makes sense.  Like Wind Whistler didn't get any special prominence in the brochures, her backcard didn't portray her as a super smarty . . . It was almost like there was an invisible wall between the media side of things and the toy side of things for G1 MLP.

It's interesting, because they went the opposite route with G1 Transformers.  Like here's the packaging "tech spec" for Sunstreaker:

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The complete egotist, Sunstreaker thinks he is the most beautiful thing on Earth. Loves his sleek styling, contemptuous of other Autobot race cars (particularly his twin Sideswipe). Fires laser-guided ground-to-air rockets and high energy electron pulses at 300 bursts/sec. Tough polymer-steel skin resists artillery. Not a team player. Can be baited into dangerous situations, but is a very calm, competent, and ruthless war machine.

That gives a clear picture of Sunstreaker's personality.  He's vain, egotistical, ruthless, competent, is mean to his brother, and kind of sounds like a sociopath.  (Especially interesting that he has all these negative traits because he's an Autobot.)

Compare this with Blueberry Baskets' backcard where her personality is "likes blueberries".  :P   That's not a character.

Mind you, I don't think the Transformers way or the MLP way are right or wrong;  they can both work, and they did both work for their respective toylines.  They're just different.

(I do think it would have been kind of amazing if Hasbro had written up backcards for a couple mean, sociopath ponies though.  :P )
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Lilja on August 01, 2019, 10:21:31 AM
I guess with TF the intent was more to sell it on story and characters. Also maybe the concept of transforming robots was too confusing for Americans at the time and demanded an explanation. Meanwhile, candy colored horses with pictures on their bums was self-explanatory. :lol: Any stories featuring them were just "bonus" marketing, and there was no need to keep them consistent.

TF was similar to MLP though in how Hasbro viewed its characters as disposable. To many childrens horror, when their beloved characters were killed off in the TF movie to make room for new product. But with MLP the characters were so unimportant that they could easily switch them out between TV specials and the movie.
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Post by: Dragonflitter on August 01, 2019, 10:29:49 AM
Also keep in mind the MLP & Friends cartoon only aired for two seasons. It ran from Sep '86 to Sep '87. So while the show was being made, it wasn't hard to find Wind Whistler and Galaxy and Fizzy on the shelves. The cartoon ran in tandem with what the toy line was producing at the time. (Granted, if kids were watching reruns in later years, then they wouldn't be able to find those characters on the shelves, of course.)

But it was more important for Hasbro to have MLP toys in general on the shelves, not particular characters. They knew if little girls saw the ponies on the TV screen in whatever format (Rescue at Midnight Castle, MLP & Friends, MLP Tales) they would go to the toy store and see that familiar logo and take home a pony toy, even if it wasn't the particular character they saw on said screen.

It was really the G3 era (not even the beginning of it, more like the end of it) where Hasbro began a tactic to make kids like a particular character, not just the logo/brand. They wanted kids to love Pinkie Pie, or love Rainbow Dash, not just love 'My Little Pony.' And when that happened, they had to have a way for kids to get those characters all the time.
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Post by: MerryAnvil on August 01, 2019, 10:34:53 AM
Ahh okay, yeah, that makes sense. I guess now that I think about it, that's true, the disconnect between the toys and the media.

That packaging for the Transformer is awesome o: Like, you can seriously tell someone sat down and spent some time thinking about the character and what kind of personality he should have. Wow.

I do agree on the sociopathic/antagonist ponies, that would have been great hehe >u< Tbh that's one of the few things I really enjoyed about FiM - the antagonists, and morally questionable pony characters. Sombra was my absolute fave. Too bad they neglected the antagonists as far as the toys go, though.
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Post by: Taffeta on August 01, 2019, 12:58:12 PM
Ahh okay, yeah, that makes sense. I guess now that I think about it, that's true, the disconnect between the toys and the media.

That all may be true for the US, but the UK had that missing link between story/character and pony. It's ironic but a lot of the backcard stories used in early comic characterisations come from the US, where they really weren't used. So Shady's weird glasses and I think Tootsie's Pollipop Latch are both US story ideas that only got used really in the UK and have become part of those characters over here instead.

I think one reason the bronyverse sometimes absorb details from the comic canon here into their concept of G1 is because it's ongoing and continuous. Ideas like the TE ponies in the mine and Majesty's dread greatness are UK, but increasingly you see people not familiar with G1 just calling those things G1 canon.

All that said, there's a rotating door in a way in the comic with new and old characters, the latter of whom end up on Memory Lane. But you did get a year or sometimes more of certain characters getting spotlight which the US line doesn't have. Almost all ponies sold here - and some not sold here - have a comic persona.

I was most influenced as a kid by how a pony was characterised in the comic and what she/he got up to, what magic they had, and so on. Medley I fell in love with because of her pragmatic character, and her musical ability (playing harp music by waving her tail, drumming thunder on the clouds). Of course where it fell down there was that Hasbro forgot to sell Medley here (-.-) so that was a fail. But it did create that iconic 'character' inside of me of a pony that had adventures, not just a plastic toy on the shelf.

It is true that there's no repeat core cast in G1 that constantly reappears (although this was beginning with the tales ponies, the later comics and so on really show that intent). But the amount of exposure given to a set or a particular pony over the years of her availability (and the chance of a pony you already had reappearing either in an old flashback comic story or a seasonal one like Fizzwhizz night or Christmas or whatever) I think helped to create something here that the US line lacked when the animation fizzled out.

Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 01, 2019, 09:16:50 PM
I really don't like how they're trying to pull the older gens into their silly Mane 6 hype >n< It's like they think people aren't capable of enjoying anything MLP related when it doesn't pertain to those characters. Which really couldn't be further from the truth because I think that many people agree they'd rather have variety over 13790482 versions of the same pony (*looks mournfully at my shelf of surplus Pinkie Pies that somehow multiply without my permission whenever I get a pony lot*). The lack of variety is one of the things that made me lose interest and take that five-year hiatus from ponies, and one of the reasons I stopped buying G4s from stores. G1 (and to an extent, G3) was the perfect example of how to have iconic characters while still retaining the variety of ponies to keep them from being boring.

I'm with everyone on the G2s as well. As one of the generations I barely missed in stores but still grew up with (sorta; PC game and all), it annoys me to see them completely ignored like this. I would most definitely buy repros if they sold them in stores!

On the positive side, I would totally get that Applejack though because I adore the pose for her! G3 Applejack is also a personal fave of mine <3

Same here. They've completely lost it.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: cottoncandycafe on August 02, 2019, 12:58:19 AM
Hey Hasbro, can we have some new ponies please? ...Please? G5? Spare G5, Hasbro?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: EnaRocketQueen on August 02, 2019, 04:16:04 AM
I understand needing to have core characters in a cartoon series that runs for nine seasons, because it would be confusing to viewers if each episode focused on a different character out of hundreds (because I'm sure there were hundreds of different designs in G3), but I don't see why the toyline has to reflect this. I think they made a  mistake in keeping them so closely tied. I've always seen the MLP cartoons and toylines as very seperate which is why "show accuracy" never bothered me.

Another thing I don't get about this is why they're trying to tie a retro G3 line into the G4 mane six. I mean, Fluttershy, Applejack and Rarity don't even look the same. They're different ponies with the same name
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Post by: banditpony on August 02, 2019, 04:38:27 AM
I understand needing to have core characters in a cartoon series that runs for nine seasons, because it would be confusing to viewers if each episode focused on a different character out of hundreds (because I'm sure there were hundreds of different designs in G3), but I don't see why the toyline has to reflect this. I think they made a  mistake in keeping them so closely tied. I've always seen the MLP cartoons and toylines as very seperate which is why "show accuracy" never bothered me.

IMO, they wanted to try something new-- it was the third attempt of having a "core" cast. It went on long enough that something had to be working for them... and the fact they dropped random new characters so early on makes me wonder if that they weren't selling?

I wonder if they didn't plan on the show being as big of a hit as it was, and if that was what drove away the other ponies. But in the end they made a boat load off of the main cast, and the toys stuck around to make sure everyone who was new got a toy.
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Post by: Lilja on August 02, 2019, 05:15:25 AM
IMO, they wanted to try something new-- it was the third attempt of having a "core" cast. It went on long enough that something had to be working for them... and the fact they dropped random new characters so early on makes me wonder if that they weren't selling?

I also found it interesting that there was such a large amount of toy-only characters in the beginning of G4, only for Hasbro to drop that very quickly and mainly focus on Mane Six for the rest of the generation's run.

Maybe because G3 core seven wasn't a big success, Hasbro in part attributed this to the limited amount of characters, and tried a different strategy for G4. (Also, good point that Hasbro at this time didn't have any idea of how successful the show would become) Of course as we saw, the limited amount of characters wasn't the problem. It's just that kids didn't connect to the G3 characters as strongly as they did for the G4 ones. It remains to be seen though, if this current strategy will keep working for Hasbro, or if they'll need to reinvent MLP again in some way to keep the brand alive.
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Post by: banditpony on August 02, 2019, 06:06:34 AM
It remains to be seen though, if this current strategy will keep working for Hasbro, or if they'll need to reinvent MLP again in some way to keep the brand alive.

Yup.
I can picture it both ways...

If they re-invented the FiM characters, I feel like a bigger gap is needed to gain some interest.
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Post by: Carrehz on August 02, 2019, 06:21:41 AM
I guess I can see why main 6 succeeded where core 7 failed... Core 7 was a late-line decision, whereas G4 always had the main 6. It's easier to succeed if it's like that all along, rather than completely overhauling the line near the end of its run, you know? Plus G4 had the TV show to back it up... G3 had cartoons, of course, but they were all direct-to-video stuff, right? so harder to just run across by coincidence and be like "oh, this is a cool show!". I don't like the main 6 but I can see why people are invested in them as characters, if that makes sense.

I hadn't thought about the non-m6 thing before, but you're right, those did fizzle out really quickly.. see, this is what annoys me. If the toy-only characters weren't selling as well as the show characters, then why not make more toys based off the show characters?!?! Or put the toy-only chars IN THE SHOW?? For a show made to sell toys, Hasbro sure did go about things in a weird way this time :/ I mean I don't watch FiM, but when I first saw a pic of Lyra I fell in love immediately and thought "oooh, I want a toy of her!". Took several years for that to happen. And don't even get me started on how long it took for them to make a brushable of Big Mac :mad:

Speaking of the meh-six, Hasbro is now calling first G1's the 'mane six' as well >.<

WHAT! That doesn't even make sense! How can they be "main" if they were only released once or twice??? Argh!!! They're the collector ponies! They already HAVE a name! I mean I guess I could accept "the original six", I think some bronies call them that, but... argh!! They're not the freaking "mane" six!!! :rant:
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Post by: banditpony on August 02, 2019, 07:05:28 AM
I guess I can see why main 6 succeeded where core 7 failed... Core 7 was a late-line decision, whereas G4 always had the main 6. It's easier to succeed if it's like that all along, rather than completely overhauling the line near the end of its run, you know? Plus G4 had the TV show to back it up...

It was PURELY the tv show that was driving point behind the success. (there was a flop inbetween g3 and g4 after all ^_- )
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Post by: Taffeta on August 02, 2019, 07:07:16 AM
I understand needing to have core characters in a cartoon series that runs for nine seasons, because it would be confusing to viewers if each episode focused on a different character out of hundreds (because I'm sure there were hundreds of different designs in G3), but I don't see why the toyline has to reflect this. I think they made a  mistake in keeping them so closely tied. I've always seen the MLP cartoons and toylines as very seperate which is why "show accuracy" never bothered me.

IMO, they wanted to try something new-- it was the third attempt of having a "core" cast. It went on long enough that something had to be working for them... and the fact they dropped random new characters so early on makes me wonder if that they weren't selling?

Fourth, technically. MLP Tales, the repeat and refresh G1 core ponies like Ivy, etc, G3's core 7 and then G4.

But then on the other hand, if we're talking Hasbro in the US, they didn't orchestrate the Seven Characters (their official set name). Hasbro in Europe did. It's still unclear whether the Tales animation was produced for an American audience with the intent of a toyline in the US (given the fact they weren't part of the 10th anniversary line), or whether the show was done in the US for a foreign audience (bearing in mind the important role of football/soccer rather than a more American sport, and also the use of Glowing Magic(al) rather than Glow & Show as a set name.

G2 is also rather the same because it died so quickly in the US and became a much more European thing. So much of the rinse repeat characters there also were done by and for the European market.

In which case it would mean Hasbro in the US only had control of core cast for the end of G3/3.5 and for G4.

Also, on a slightly different note, Mattel and SheRa in the 1980s had a lot of different toys but the series mostly focused on the core group plus characters not made into toys like the annoying Mme Razz and Broom - characters like Mermista and Perfuma etc got one episode if they were lucky out of the whole run of episodes.  So this idea of focusing on the core cast in the show and then selling a wide range of toys was made to work in the eighties.

In a sense the FIM show was too successful and with the wrong audience to make a good toyline with diverse characters. When it became the lynchpin and gained a cult following outside the target audience, it changed the angle of approach on how to market from it. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing overall for MLP in the 21st century, but it's still what happened. If the show hadn't evolved to be so key, the m6 would probably have had fewer releases with a more diverse cast as Hasbro focused on nailing the toy angle, rather than the licensed merch angle.
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Post by: Dragonflitter on August 02, 2019, 09:50:43 AM
Hey Hasbro, can we have some new ponies please? ...Please? G5? Spare G5, Hasbro?

Ugh, don't get your hopes up, we already know the G5 cartoon is going to have the same cast of six ponies as FiM, just with revamped character designs and storyline. I doubt they're going to change their marketing strategies where the toys are involved. -_-
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on August 02, 2019, 09:52:07 AM
Hey Hasbro, can we have some new ponies please? ...Please? G5? Spare G5, Hasbro?

Ugh, don't get your hopes up, we already know the G5 cartoon is going to have the same cast of six ponies as FiM, just with revamped character designs and storyline. I doubt they're going to change their marketing strategies where the toys are involved. -_-

We only know rumors. Nothing official has been released. Things can change during the concept phase *shrug* and that's all we've seen.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Dragonflitter on August 02, 2019, 09:54:49 AM
Things can change in concept phrase, yeah, but I very much doubt they're going to make such a wild change as "we're keeping the same characters people have come to love from G4" to "we're going to make a whole new cast," as cool as that would be.
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Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 02, 2019, 10:01:22 AM
Hey Hasbro, can we have some new ponies please? ...Please? G5? Spare G5, Hasbro?

Second, third and fourth this.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on August 02, 2019, 10:19:30 AM
Things can change in concept phrase, yeah, but I very much doubt they're going to make such a wild change as "we're keeping the same characters people have come to love from G4" to "we're going to make a whole new cast," as cool as that would be.

Eh, IMO, you never know. I've seen projects do 180s. Just takes one business person or buyer to be like, nope.
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Post by: Taffeta on August 02, 2019, 12:56:59 PM
They need to feel the hate.

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Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 02, 2019, 01:23:58 PM
They need to feel the hate.

Hate only fuels their power. Hasbro is run by evil marketing Sith Lords.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on August 02, 2019, 01:29:57 PM
They need to feel the hate.

Hate only fuels their power. Hasbro is run by evil marketing Sith Lords.

Hahaha xD Conspiracy theorising ftw ;)

Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 02, 2019, 01:52:33 PM
There is no way Hasbro is going to change up the main characters.  Except maybe nixing Applejack, who sells the worst, but I think it's more likely they will keep her but "un-country-fy" her.

When a new TMNT cartoon is announced, would you ever expect the main characters to be anyone other than Donatello, Michelangelo, Leonardo, and Raphael?  And probably Splinter and April O'Neil?  Well, a main cast is now the reality for MLP as well.
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Post by: Taffeta on August 02, 2019, 02:00:13 PM
There is no way Hasbro is going to change up the main characters.  Except maybe nixing Applejack, who sells the worst, but I think it's more likely they will keep her but "un-country-fy" her.

When a new TMNT cartoon is announced, would you ever expect the main characters to be anyone other than Donatello, Michelangelo, Leonardo, and Raphael?  And probably Splinter and April O'Neil?  Well, a main cast is now the reality for MLP as well.

The difference was that TMNT was always centred around those characters from the very start.

 MLP wasn't.

So while it may be the current reality, there's no reason for us to just accept it...as we know a different MLP from the generic blah of M6. And honestly, if we give up hope for something more, we might as well be burying the franchise now.
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 02, 2019, 02:27:26 PM
That's true, MLP didn't used to follow that mold.  But now it does.  I'm not happy about it, but it is what it is.

I was looking at a lot of Craigslist ponies the other day (all G4s) that consisted of 48 ponies.  All but TWO OF THEM were Mane Six.

Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids.  Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on August 02, 2019, 02:29:22 PM
That's true, MLP didn't used to follow that mold.  But now it does.  I'm not happy about it, but it is what it is.

I was looking at a lot of Craigslist ponies the other day (all G4s) that consisted of 48 ponies.  All but TWO OF THEM were Mane Six.

Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids.  Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.

True, but I wasn't thinking about it from Hasbro's perspective. I was just saying that as a collector we have no reason to accept it. We might have to put up with it as we aren't making the decisions, but that's not the same thing :D
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Pokeyonekenobie on August 02, 2019, 03:21:11 PM
Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids.  Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.

Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?  Most parents won't care that it's a "new" pony design, they just know their kid already has 3 Twilights, 2 Rainbow Dashs, 5 Fluttershys, 3 Apple Jacks, 4 Raritys, and 27 Pinkie Pies.  Their child won't need new ponies.  If the show wants to have main characters, that's fine, but if they don't change up the toy line, Hasbro is going to lose a bunch of money (and possibly annoy a bunch of parents).
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Post by: Carrehz on August 02, 2019, 03:31:30 PM
Very well said, LadyM!! I hate the main 6 thing... but I accept that I'm not the target audience. And I've said all along that I can live with the unending onslaught of main 6 releases if they can have some different characters here and there, too. Now if G5 can give us more non-main 6 chars, THEN I'll be happy.

I wonder if AJ would sell better if Hasbro didn't always leave her out of things. :P

Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?

maybe Hasbro are counting on the "fleeting demographic" thing? Who knows how many kids have been into G4 for that long and are still interested in it. Not all kids hold an interest in the same show for its entire duration, you know? But I get what you mean... hopefully the G5 toys will be different enough from G4 for it to be a moot point.

I hope we get some G5 info soon... I hate all this uncertainty.
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Post by: Taffeta on August 02, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
Very well said, LadyM!! I hate the main 6 thing... but I accept that I'm not the target audience.

I fundamentally refuse to believe that the target audience want the same six ponies ad nauseum for the rest of eternity.
I think that does kids a disservice.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on August 02, 2019, 03:57:18 PM
I didn't say they did? I just said what we think isn't exactly Hasbro's main priority :/
Title: Re: G3 \\\"Retro\\\" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 02, 2019, 03:58:16 PM
Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids.  Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.

Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?  Most parents won't care that it's a "new" pony design, they just know their kid already has 3 Twilights, 2 Rainbow Dashs, 5 Fluttershys, 3 Apple Jacks, 4 Raritys, and 27 Pinkie Pies.  Their child won't need new ponies.  If the show wants to have main characters, that's fine, but if they don't change up the toy line, Hasbro is going to lose a bunch of money (and possibly annoy a bunch of parents).


Precisely!

Post Merge: August 02, 2019, 03:59:28 PM

Very well said, LadyM!! I hate the main 6 thing... but I accept that I'm not the target audience.

I fundamentally refuse to believe that the target audience want the same six ponies ad nauseum for the rest of eternity.
I think that does kids a disservice.


Darn straight it does. Hasbro does not do this with a select few transformers ad naseum. Why should MLP kids be forced to?

Post Merge: August 02, 2019, 04:01:17 PM

I didn't say they did? I just said what we think isn't exactly Hasbro's main priority :/

Sometimes the creator of a thing can make remarkably stupid mistakes. They aren't infinitely wise just because they created it.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on August 02, 2019, 04:14:48 PM
I didn't say they did? I just said what we think isn't exactly Hasbro's main priority :/

Sometimes the creator of a thing can make remarkably stupid mistakes. They aren't infinitely wise just because they created it.

haha when did I say Hasbro were infinitely wise? I think y'all are getting the wrong idea, here. I'm not saying I AGREE with Hasbro's decisions, I thought I made it pretty obvious I didn't? I was just saying that what *I* think - what us adult collectors think - doesn't matter to Hasbro at all, and in all fairness why should it, really? We're not their target audience. That was my point. I never said that I thought kids liked the unending main 6 parade - I don't know what they're into. Maybe they don't mind it (although I doubt it, lol), maybe they don't collect ponies for long enough for it to matter - who knows. But that wasn't what I was talking about.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Minty_Magic on August 03, 2019, 12:51:42 AM
This is so cool! :) definitely maybe incessant, but I’ll probably buy at least one of two! It will be so exciting to see G3 in stores again, they were really my childhood ponies. I really hope they’ll release a Minty at some point, I can never have too many of her! :P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on August 03, 2019, 02:52:26 AM
@ Carrehz I think there is a cross purpose convo going on here. I think both Law and I accept you are right about Hasbro and their views...however we...or at least I....was talking about my personal feelings as a collector. I have always said that I accept mlp is first and foremost about kids but it doesn't change the fact that as a longterm pony fan I personally have huge reservations about the future of the brand.

I also don't think kids want the same toys over and over.  Saying so isn't in contradiction of your point. Just an observation that in my view hasbro are out of touch with their target too.

I think they got dazzled by the brony hype and lost track of the core aim of the toy which was to enchant kids, not young adults looking for memes.

I don't think they know what the target audience is any more. And I think law was thinking similarly.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on August 03, 2019, 06:23:17 AM
I think they got dazzled by the brony hype and lost track of the core aim of the toy which was to enchant kids, not young adults looking for memes.

I still don't understand how the toys have anything to do with bronies. Other things, sure. the toys, not so much.


Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?

maybe Hasbro are counting on the "fleeting demographic" thing? Who knows how many kids have been into G4 for that long and are still interested in it. Not all kids hold an interest in the same show for its entire duration, you know?

this! I mean it's pretty obvious IMO-- they were there because of kids getting in later. I don't believe that the brand was carried by the toyline this round like perhaps in the past generations.

And I still think the major success of the show-- that licensing became the ultimate money maker of the whole thing, and that's why we saw variations of ponies drop off early within a few years. (And I'm not even saying that was because of bronies, but the whole thing was just popular with everyone).

That's why I'm not 100% convinced of what we will see with G5. I really think the FiM cartoon was a surprise in a way, and that they obviously changed gears for any initial plan. There's no way they can predict a good show, and that they probably will go back to giving us a variation above all.. and that the core characters will be there for the face of merch. 

it's just trying to think about the other things kids are interested in right now, and how toy horses really compare to that. We still are on cheapo blind bag junk right now, aren't we?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 03, 2019, 07:01:23 AM
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.

Because MLP is a toy brand for kids first and foremost. We know that G1, G2 and G3 have had repeat characters, but never, even at the height of the Bore Core, had it reached such an obnoxious fever pitch obsession and kids do like different things. Even from one generation to the next. Other things are contributing to this of course. I suspect the biggest issue is Hasbro's laziness and greed.

The fact that they don't pull this kinda crap with their major boy brand Transformers, is both baffling and aggravating. It has a healthier mix of generations, old characters and new characters, then MLP does now. Although the G1 and G3 repros help a little. They cater to their older and newer fanbase in a far saner way and the quality isn't completely atrocious either.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on August 03, 2019, 07:32:41 AM
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.

And I didn't disagree with that. But she said "lost track of the core aim of the toy".

IMO there's a difference on what they did with the brand, and what they did with the core toyline and why m6 are shelf warmers and why we didn't get a variety like in the past.

Licensing merchandise was the money maker (AND YES! This did include bronies in their strategy). :shrug: toys were there just to make sure some kid who like FiM later on could get their fave character. That doesn't have to MAKE money if licensing merch is making money for the brand.

G4 was wildly different then the past lines because of the early success of FiM.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on August 03, 2019, 07:38:18 AM

Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?

maybe Hasbro are counting on the "fleeting demographic" thing? Who knows how many kids have been into G4 for that long and are still interested in it. Not all kids hold an interest in the same show for its entire duration, you know?

this! I mean it's pretty obvious IMO-- they were there because of kids getting in later. I don't believe that the brand was carried by the toyline this round like perhaps in the past generations.

yes, thank you! Finally someone gets it! I've never said kids want the same toys over and over and I'm not sure why that notion keeps getting attributed to me o.O THIS is exactly what I was trying to say.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Harmonie on August 03, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
The effort put into Friendship is Magic from the very beginning makes me wonder if Hasbro was actually aiming to make MLP a more successful media franchise beyond toys. The Brony fandom may have been unexpected, but I think they were aiming for FiM to be a success on its own.

I'll admit I'm not super knowledgeable on all of that and may be completely wrong.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 03, 2019, 08:11:42 AM
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.

And I didn't disagree with that. But she said "lost track of the core aim of the toy".

IMO there's a difference on what they did with the brand, and what they did with the core toyline and why m6 are shelf warmers and why we didn't get a variety like in the past.

Licensing merchandise was the money maker (AND YES! This did include bronies in their strategy). :shrug: toys were there just to make sure some kid who like FiM later on could get their fave character. That doesn't have to MAKE money if licensing merch is making money for the brand.

G4 was wildly different then the past lines because of the early success of FiM.

The core is the toyline. They have lost its identity catering to a fringe adult fad-crowd by overproducing 6 characters and more tellingly out of lazy greed. That is what some people are trying to say.

Kids don't want 50 of the same character. Hasbro has forgotten this.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on August 03, 2019, 08:32:46 AM
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.

And I didn't disagree with that. But she said "lost track of the core aim of the toy".

IMO there's a difference on what they did with the brand, and what they did with the core toyline and why m6 are shelf warmers and why we didn't get a variety like in the past.

Licensing merchandise was the money maker (AND YES! This did include bronies in their strategy). :shrug: toys were there just to make sure some kid who like FiM later on could get their fave character. That doesn't have to MAKE money if licensing merch is making money for the brand.

G4 was wildly different then the past lines because of the early success of FiM.

The core is the toyline. They have lost its identity catering to a fringe adult fad-crowd by overproducing 6 characters and more tellingly out of lazy greed. That is what some people are trying to say.

Kids don't want 50 of the same character. Hasbro has forgotten this.

No one is disagreeing with the fact that people don't want 50 of the same characters. (And a few handful of people do like armies, but that's not why this is happening).

Hasbro knows this. We know this. EVERYONE agrees with this.

Putting personal opinion aside, they are only there so kids who get into the show can get the characters they like.

However, the brand is more than the main toyline.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 03, 2019, 08:55:51 AM
Bandit-I believe Taf is saying that the trend of catering the brand to them in the form of a quadrillion different core characters, instead of keeping it fresh and creative, as they've always done for kids has become an issue.

And I didn't disagree with that. But she said "lost track of the core aim of the toy".

IMO there's a difference on what they did with the brand, and what they did with the core toyline and why m6 are shelf warmers and why we didn't get a variety like in the past.

Licensing merchandise was the money maker (AND YES! This did include bronies in their strategy). :shrug: toys were there just to make sure some kid who like FiM later on could get their fave character. That doesn't have to MAKE money if licensing merch is making money for the brand.

G4 was wildly different then the past lines because of the early success of FiM.

The core is the toyline. They have lost its identity catering to a fringe adult fad-crowd by overproducing 6 characters and more tellingly out of lazy greed. That is what some people are trying to say.

Kids don't want 50 of the same character. Hasbro has forgotten this.

No one is disagreeing with the fact that people don't want 50 of the same characters. (And a few handful of people do like armies, but that's not why this is happening).

Hasbro knows this. We know this. EVERYONE agrees with this.

Putting personal opinion aside, they are only there so kids who get into the show can get the characters they like.

However, the brand is more than the main toyline.

We know this. :hug: But Hasbro has forgotten and the constantly being on shelves excuse does not fly and never has. Especially not to this extent. Especially since Hasbro only started practicing obsessive insanity on only one of their big moneymakers and not the other. The toyline is the core. Its the Main Course. The cartoon, comic and merchandise are the appetizers, drinks and side dishes.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on August 03, 2019, 09:34:30 AM
Hasbro didn't forget something. The formula ended up being different this time, and relied on something that wasn't the main toyline. They made money -- which is their objective every time.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 03, 2019, 09:38:14 AM
Hasbro didn't forget something. The formula ended up being different this time, and relied on something that wasn't the main toyline. They made money -- which is their objective every time.

They've forgotten it and their obsession with a fad group's tastes may possibly end up screwing the brand over in the longterm. If it does, then Hasbro will start losing some money.  They'll be fine I mean, since they've got other stuff that makes money, but still.


Anywho, back OT, I'd like to see more G3s then just these 4. I never liked Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy and I already have an Applejack.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on August 03, 2019, 10:04:16 AM
I am honestly not going to touch this discussion any more because a: everyone is basically saying the same thing and b: I am pretty sure that what I said has been wilfully or accidentally misunderstood, but I don't have the energy to untangle the mess and point out where.
 Honestly at this point it is easier to just say we are all making the same points with slightly different words...

And move on.

Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: KarentheUnicorn on August 03, 2019, 10:21:31 AM


Putting personal opinion aside, they are only there so kids who get into the show can get the characters they like.

However, the brand is more than the main toyline.

Wellll, technically, the toyline came out before the TV show, so back in the origins of MLP, the 80's, we didn't have a tv show at first to corrupt our imagination into thinking we had to have 20 of the exact same pony. Hell, even when the TV show came out it was sorta a background thing compared to the toyline (at least for me but that's the read I get from most long time collectors) - else Hasbro would have saved money and just made the exact same pony over and over back then.

I think from a company standpoint it's cheaper to produce the same pony over and over and just fab up this idea of the mane 6 characters. It's easier to market than trying to market a whole new group of ponies every year or multiple different sets.

So for the company it's not really about collecting anymore, it's about shoving out the cheapest product they can for the largest amount of money. Even back in the 80's, they were calling MLP a collectable. I've got mail order pamphlets from the 80's that were calling the first 6 ponies collector ponies even back then. So I think in a certain way Hasbro looked at MLP differently than they do now - or at the very least the way they sell them is totally different. It just feels like it's more about shoving out cheap junk than a really great line of unique toys.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: banditpony on August 03, 2019, 10:31:24 AM


Putting personal opinion aside, they are only there so kids who get into the show can get the characters they like.

However, the brand is more than the main toyline.

Wellll, technically, the toyline came out before the TV show, so back in the origins of MLP, the 80's, we didn't have a tv show at first to corrupt our imagination into thinking we had to have 20 of the exact same pony. Hell, even when the TV show came out it was sorta a background thing compared to the toyline (at least for me but that's the read I get from most long time collectors) - else Hasbro would have saved money and just made the exact same pony over and over back then.

I think from a company standpoint it's cheaper to produce the same pony over and over and just fab up this idea of the mane 6 characters. It's easier to market than trying to market a whole new group of ponies every year or multiple different sets.

So for the company it's not really about collecting anymore, it's about shoving out the cheapest product they can for the largest amount of money. Even back in the 80's, they were calling MLP a collectable. I've got mail order pamphlets from the 80's that were calling the first 6 ponies collector ponies even back then. So I think in a certain way Hasbro looked at MLP differently than they do now - or at the very least the way they sell them is totally different. It just feels like it's more about shoving out cheap junk than a really great line of unique toys.

I guess I was just referring to only right now why the mane 6 is on the shelves. And the drop off of why there WERE other ponies in the start, but now not.

They addressed "collecting" with all the side blind bag things. (Which is on par to compete with other similar blind bag toys).

but the goal of any company, now or then, is always to make money. The strategies can't always remain the same each time.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: HollowZero on August 03, 2019, 11:40:56 AM
For g4 it wasn't as profitable to market to kids with several different ponies, it's just a different time. Hasbro tried the Barbie way - Barbie with a different dress and accessories, and it worked to a point.

They also marketed the larger or more detailed items to bronies. That took them a bit of finagling but they eventually got it sort of right.

Basic Fun picked up the slack and made retro G1s. The slack being late 20s and above females.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Noasar on August 03, 2019, 11:59:24 AM
They're cool but...too soon, too soon!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 17, 2019, 07:14:13 AM
TheBeatlesPkmnFan42, thank you!!!!!!

Haha, "retro" - classic, sure, but retro? C'mon, they're not that old yet! ..r-right?

To be fair, with "retro" I just put that word into the thread title to compare them to Basic Fun's G1 ponies since they're both recreations of past gen ponies. These Target listings don't say retro anywhere. That's why I put it in quotes.

Well that would be repro. ;)
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: LadyMoondancer on August 17, 2019, 08:12:58 AM
Hasbro doesn't care if collectors "accept it" or if collectors leave, because their target demographic is little kids.  Collectors are the cherry on the cake, but kids ARE the cake.

Yes, but if their parents have already bought them G4 Mane 6 toys for the last 9 years, why would they rebuy them as G5?

Someone who has had their parent buying them toys for the last nine years would be, at minimum, 12 or 13. Meaning they are statistically unlikely to be interested in MLP.   Hasbro isn't trying to sell the same Pinkie Pie to the same kid at age 5, 8, and 10.  They're trying to sell to a new wave of 5 year olds each year.

I just tried googling the core demographic ages (in Hasbro's eyes) but of course bronies have a million articles about how they're "the biggest audience for My Little Pony."  Absolutely delusional.  But anyway, if I had to guess it would girls from 4 to 7 or so.

Can I just point out something brilliant about the "Mane Six" concept from a marketing perspective?  It ensures that any kid who is into the show will want, at minimum, six pony toys. 

If you grew up in the 80s you might be thinking "So what? Six isn't that many".  But this isn't the 80s, when MLP was the #1 girls toy and a major fad. 

This is the 2010s, when some of the #1 hit toys have been:

- Hatchimals
- Shopkins
- L.O.L. Surprise dolls
- sparkly poop-themed toys??? (why)

Some of those kids might have chosen to get a L.O.L. doll or Shopkins or . . . poop . . . instead of a pony if they didn't need that sixth pony to complete their main crew.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 17, 2019, 08:38:47 AM
I will never, EVER in a million years understand poop toys.


Mark my words, that'll be Hasbro's next newest thing. The Mane Suxx as My Little Poopies.  :devious:   :money:

Poopie Pie
Twilight Shartle
Road Apple
Tootie-shy
Rainbow Scat


And uhh...I can't think of one for Rarity. Someone help me out here. :wonder:
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on August 17, 2019, 11:00:27 AM
I will never, EVER in a million years understand poop toys.


Mark my words, that'll be Hasbro's next newest thing. The Mane Suxx as My Little Poopies.  :devious:   :money:

Poopie Pie
Twilight Shartle
Road Apple
Tootie-shy
Rainbow Scat


And uhh...I can't think of one for Rarity. Someone help me out here. :wonder:

That reminds me, the other week at the carboot someone was selling some cheap unicorn poop toy thing, and the art on the box was ripped off G3 art...

It's closer than you think.

I think LM has a point but it's a horrible indictment of both the toy industry and kids if correct.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Harmonie on August 17, 2019, 04:48:50 PM
I will never, EVER in a million years understand poop toys.


Mark my words, that'll be Hasbro's next newest thing. The Mane Suxx as My Little Poopies.  :devious:   :money:

Poopie Pie
Twilight Shartle
Road Apple
Tootie-shy
Rainbow Scat


And uhh...I can't think of one for Rarity. Someone help me out here. :wonder:

Please don't give them ideas!  :X

I don't understand this poop toy thing at all, either. It's everywhere.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 17, 2019, 07:14:57 PM
I will never, EVER in a million years understand poop toys.


Mark my words, that'll be Hasbro's next newest thing. The Mane Suxx as My Little Poopies.  :devious:   :money:

Poopie Pie
Twilight Shartle
Road Apple
Tootie-shy
Rainbow Scat


And uhh...I can't think of one for Rarity. Someone help me out here. :wonder:

That reminds me, the other week at the carboot someone was selling some cheap unicorn poop toy thing, and the art on the box was ripped off G3 art...

It's closer than you think.

I think LM has a point but it's a horrible indictment of both the toy industry and kids if correct.

Ewww.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: PinkRosedust on August 18, 2019, 03:57:20 PM
Wow guys Ponyland is full of surprises lately eh? I don't even know what to think about this. I do adore G3 but I hope this isn't Basic Fun replacing their G1 repros.

Gosh I love G3 Applejack. I can already see myself buying her...even though I have a perfectly good one that I bought new when she was released... :redface: G3 was exciting...might be kinda fun to relive that nostalgia even if it wasn't all that long ago (After looking it up: okay I forgot she was released so early in G3! So she is already 16 years old which is more than enough time for nostalgia to kick in). If only I'd had the foresight to keep her in the box knowing she'd weirdly be re-released after G3 and then G4 ended. D'oh!

Honestly, I'm just glad they didn't decide to remake Scootaloo, Sweetie Belle, and Cheerilee. (...yet? :yikes:) The thought of Core Seven returning from the grave in response to M6 angst is like some sort of horrible monkey's paw scenario.

Hahaha...OMG you've got a point. Hasbro don't do it to us again. Those were rough days.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Zapper on August 21, 2019, 01:43:10 AM
Omg so cuuuute! Ok, so why did they make this weird new "G1 retro" mould when they had shrunken down G3s all along?

PS: really enjoy this darker pink for Miss Pie and AJ's red has always been beautiful. Did Rainbow always have rainbow colored eyes?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 21, 2019, 07:28:53 AM
Omg so cuuuute! Ok, so why did they make this weird new "G1 retro" mould when they had shrunken down G3s all along?

PS: really enjoy this darker pink for Miss Pie and AJ's red has always been beautiful. Did Rainbow always have rainbow colored eyes?


I didn't see where they were shrunken down?  :blink: I thought they were normal sized.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 21, 2019, 07:58:39 AM
I didn't see where they were shrunken down?  :blink: I thought they were normal sized.

The G3s appear to be normal sized, but the new retro G1s, like the ones with the Mane 6, are only 3 inches tall!
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 21, 2019, 08:39:09 AM
I didn't see where they were shrunken down?  :blink: I thought they were normal sized.

The G3s appear to be normal sized, but the new retro G1s, like the ones with the Mane 6, are only 3 inches tall!

Yes I know that.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Zapper on August 21, 2019, 08:44:52 AM
Omg so cuuuute! Ok, so why did they make this weird new "G1 retro" mould when they had shrunken down G3s all along?

PS: really enjoy this darker pink for Miss Pie and AJ's red has always been beautiful. Did Rainbow always have rainbow colored eyes?


I didn't see where they were shrunken down?  :blink: I thought they were normal sized.

They are called "mini figure" so I just assumed. I have a super cute mini G3 Minty, tho. I think she was a McDumb toy or something. Certainly not Dolly Mix but the same size. She is a shrunken down G3 mould. Just forgot which one.
So if they wanted to go smaller like G4 they could certainly make them that way.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 21, 2019, 08:46:51 AM
Nm Zapper, I see what you mean. They do say Mini Figure. How odd.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Dragonflitter on August 21, 2019, 09:51:24 AM
Yeah RD always had rainbow eyes. That was one of my fave things about her! ^_^ (She was always my fave chara when the G3's were around.) I thought it was so weird when G4 came and I saw they chose dark pink for her eyes...Hmm.)

0.o If these are mini-sized, are they really going to be $10 a piece? Yowch. I'm not going for that. At least Stranger Things AJ was the size of the original G1's.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Ragamuffin on August 21, 2019, 09:56:00 AM
I misinterpreted what was said.

It's been about a month yet we still don't have any information on these. *thinking emoji* I still think these will be regular size because of the $10 price point. $10 is way too much for something that's 3 inches, and I don't see why these would be more expensive to make than the G1s.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Ivaness on August 21, 2019, 11:07:55 AM
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Carrehz on August 21, 2019, 11:24:45 AM
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but personally I'd love it if these were smaller than the originals! More interesting than a straight re-release, and small things are always cute ^_^
Title: Re: G3 \"Retro\" ponies on Target website
Post by: caseysealia on August 21, 2019, 12:03:26 PM
Not sure why these would need to be reproduced as the originals are easily available. 

However, I'm not sure what "Height Lights" are.

"Applejack has a shiny, green height lights in tail and mane so your child can give her fun and unique hairstyles"
"Pinkie Pie has a shiny, pink height lights in tail and mane so your child can give her fun and unique hairstyles."

Does it make them look taller?   :P
lol I think it means "high lights but who knows  :P

Post Merge: August 21, 2019, 12:05:58 PM

It'll remind me of when I was young and picking g3s off the shelves! I've missed that, so I really hope they sell
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Zapper on August 21, 2019, 12:07:00 PM
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)

They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Ivaness on August 21, 2019, 12:12:25 PM
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)

They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Moonbreeze on August 21, 2019, 12:23:32 PM
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)

They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.

Apparently G2 sold better in Europe and it makes me wonder how much Hasbro US had to do with the marketing at the time in Europe... were they already too focussed on G3?  Which could possibly explain their annoying lack of interest in G2 :( Weird since the line lasted four more years in here.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: EnaRocketQueen on August 22, 2019, 03:01:07 AM
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)

They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.

Apparently G2 sold better in Europe and it makes me wonder how much Hasbro US had to do with the marketing at the time in Europe... were they already too focussed on G3?  Which could possibly explain their annoying lack of interest in G2 :( Weird since the line lasted four more years in here.

For saying G2 sold better in Europe, I never find them second hand around here in the UK. I often find G3 and 4, and even G1s a couple of times. I don't think I've ever seen a G2 in real life, and never had any when I was a kid. That's why I'm not that interested in them, and I'm probably not the only one. Hasbro probably knows this and doesn't see the point of remaking G2 when not so many people now/remember it as the other past gens
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Moonbreeze on August 22, 2019, 04:35:24 AM
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)

They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.

Apparently G2 sold better in Europe and it makes me wonder how much Hasbro US had to do with the marketing at the time in Europe... were they already too focussed on G3?  Which could possibly explain their annoying lack of interest in G2 :( Weird since the line lasted four more years in here.

For saying G2 sold better in Europe, I never find them second hand around here in the UK. I often find G3 and 4, and even G1s a couple of times. I don't think I've ever seen a G2 in real life, and never had any when I was a kid. That's why I'm not that interested in them, and I'm probably not the only one. Hasbro probably knows this and doesn't see the point of remaking G2 a not so many people now/remember it as the other past gens

No, distribution in the UK stopped fairly fast. But not in the majority the EU (at least west Europe, I'd say France, Spain, Italy and Germany are not insignificant). Granted, it's not a wordwide popularity that the rest of the gens had, but it's no reason to absolutely not feature them or mention them at all ;)

But yeap, I could rant about this all day :lol: So I'll leave it here :P
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Galactica on August 22, 2019, 10:07:21 AM
Were G2 really that unpopular?? They're my favorites. :( (Sorry if this was addressed somewhere earlier)

They were pulled in the US while Europe still got new waves, so I assume Hasbro considers them unpopular? It's a shame because they were there for years and they are just as legit as G3.
I never saw them in stores. I remember seeing G1 and G3, that was it. That makes me so sad. Sometimes, Europe just gets all the good things.

Apparently G2 sold better in Europe and it makes me wonder how much Hasbro US had to do with the marketing at the time in Europe... were they already too focussed on G3?  Which could possibly explain their annoying lack of interest in G2 :( Weird since the line lasted four more years in here.

For saying G2 sold better in Europe, I never find them second hand around here in the UK. I often find G3 and 4, and even G1s a couple of times. I don't think I've ever seen a G2 in real life, and never had any when I was a kid. That's why I'm not that interested in them, and I'm probably not the only one. Hasbro probably knows this and doesn't see the point of remaking G2 when not so many people now/remember it as the other past gens

"Europe" is a pretty broad brush. I'm sure some areas were more pony saturated than others.
I visited southern Germany in 2001 and I remember finding G2 ponies and keychains in all the toyshops- it was so fun and I brought home loads...
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on August 26, 2019, 12:31:13 PM
So are these going to show up anywhere besides Target?  At least on Hasbro's website?
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Taffeta on August 26, 2019, 01:09:54 PM
@Moonbreeze, I'm still not totally sure when it stopped here, G2 stuff, because I've found ponies here second hand that I don't remember seeing in stores. And this is the south east region which tends to have better distribution than where I grew up, so it may be to do with that. I thought they stopped here around 2000 because I remember bringing them back from France in 2000ish and never saw most of those here. BUT I've since found a couple of musical ponies and Water Lily here and they're later, so unless they travelled, it seems like patchy distribution may be to blame.

@Galactica - yeah, Europe is an extremely broad brush. There's no one rule fits all, because it's multiple countries and they all have their own thing. Esp. with G1 but with G2 as well. Somewhat with G3. Not so much with G4 but occasionally. And also retros xD, apparently.
Title: Re: G3 "Retro" ponies on Target website
Post by: Leave a Whisper on September 03, 2019, 07:39:05 AM
I wonder why these are small?
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