I really like this one and I have a theory for why they have to reexplain the rainbow -besides the obvious explaining for those who haven't seen rescue- is that maybe the moochick made her forget some of the things that she's seen. like more, the particulars, she knows there's a land of talking colorful ponies but she doesn't remember names, and who know how differently time passes in pony land vs megan land -lol-. so there wouldn't be any issue of continuity and the 'hey where's moondancer glory and the others' and be told that they died a long time ago
Can I just say it weirds me the hell out that the nursery has the "My Little Pony" logo on it? Like I know it's marketing for toys, but still XD
As a kid, I rented this a lot. As an adult, I don't think it's a very good episode.
Tammy Grimes as Catrina is great.
You kinda gotta feel for Rep, but on the other hand, he shoulda been strong enough to put his foot down against slavery with the bushwoolies.
My favorite song is Dressed Like a Dream. It's a shame we never saw those characters again. I love how bold and tough Baby Moondancer is.
Can I just say it weirds me the hell out that the nursery has the "My Little Pony" logo on it? Like I know it's marketing for toys, but still XD
Can I just say it weirds me the hell out that the nursery has the "My Little Pony" logo on it? Like I know it's marketing for toys, but still XD
Can I just say it weirds me the hell out that the nursery has the "My Little Pony" logo on it? Like I know it's marketing for toys, but still XD
Meh, I never noticed, but I'd suggest that the kids of the 80's (like myself) who are into MLP would have actually noticed if something was missing....as in HAY that doesn't look like my nursery it's missing (insert item here).
The MLP were marketed as collectibles even going back to 1986, I have a letter from the 'my little pony'. It discusses the original 6 'collector ponies', which were being called collector ponies even back then. It's signed Love from, My Little Pony.
So MLP's do a kinda 4th wall break in the 80's universe. (They're like Deadpool and talk to the audience). They know they are My Little Pony, and they're okay with that and so am I.
I've noticed that a lot of people belittle the original cartoon to insist it was made to sell toys, but so is FIM.
I think looking at MLP from my standpoint, I've said this many times but the cartoon was a accessory to the toyline. The cartoon wasn't looked at as being superior to the toys, it was something you could enjoy if you were into MLP but in the 80's the toy line was king, not the cartoon.
I’ve wondered about that synopsis that says it was Baby Surprise Catrina captured instead of Baby Moondancer. Was it originally going to be Baby Surprise or is it just a mistake? Also there’s a picture of Medley on the back of the VHS box even though Medley doesn’t appear in it.
I think the Withweed potion made Catrina evil along with the powers it gave her. When she has powered by Witchweed Catrina focuses on ways to get more, even if it means turning innocent creatures in to her slaves.
Reading through this discussion gave me a little mini-story idea that I just had to write down. Hope it's okay to post this here! I've often thought it would be awesome to see more of Catrina's story!SpoilerAnother idyllic Dream Valley afternoon, the sun shining, the ponies playing. The doors to Dream Castle's throne room were opened, and Majesty lounged contentedly – but majestically, of course – on her golden throne. A light breeze toyed with her blue and white mane as she leaned forward to sip at the cool drink Fizzy had provided her with. Catrina sat at her side, a place she often occupied these days. Since Catrina’s redemption and Majesty's return from wherever it was she wandered when she was not in Ponyland, the two seemed to have struck up quite a friendship.
“It was all about power, really,” said Catrina, gesturing vaguely with her own drink. She wasn't sure how they had come to be talking about the witchweed potion, but Majesty didn’t seem to mind. “I wanted power, to be powerful. I wanted control. I didn't want to be that cute and cuddly kitten, that goody two-shoes, any more. The town where I was brought up....it was very much a place where girls did what they were told.”
“You wanted to rebel,” suggested Majesty.
“Wanted to, yes. But I hadn't the faintest idea how to go about it. I was weak. Especially compared to Rep. I was jealous of his magic abilities. He thinks them so unimportant himself, he wastes them. If I could do the things he can....”
“Magic is a mere accident of birth,” said Majesty, “You are far more important to Rep than his shapeshifting skills; he's devoted to you. Although I notice you haven’t spoken much to him since the costume party.”
Catrina shrugged. “I didn't feel like myself that night, and yet he seemed perfectly happy with who I was. He was glad I was his Catrina again, the one he fell in love with. But I'm not sure I've ever been that Catrina, not really. The witchweed potion showed me a different side to myself. It made me feel good. Strong. As if I could do anything, be anything!”
“At the expense of others, if necessary,” said Majesty, wryly, “It caused you to almost enslave my subjects. You'll forgive me if I don't look too kindly on it.” She sighed. “A lot seems to have happened to them while I was away. I wonder if I dare ever leave them again.”
“But was it really so wrong?” said Catrina, talking almost to herself, “I know I took too much of the stuff, and it clouded my judgement. But if I were to just take a little, I wonder – I mean, hypothetically speaking, of course. Power doesn't have to be evil.”
“I think witchweed potion is something you can’t just take 'a little' of,” said Majesty, “A little quickly becomes a little more. One sip and there’s no turning back. Don't look at me like that, Catrina. I'm not some sheltered princess, I did have a life before I became Queen of the Ponies. I've seen things. Oh, Catrina – I don't know that power is what you think it is. There's a strength in sweetness just as much as in brute force. Do you really need to enhance what nature has given you to be yourself?”
“That’s easy for you to say, you've got the most magical horn in Ponyland. You can blast anyone you want to kingdom come.”
“I could, but I don't. If I blasted everyone I wanted to, this land would probably be empty. One has to have a little self-control.”
Catrina nodded almost eagerly. “That’s what I lacked. If I could do it all again....”
“But self-control is the very thing that potions like the witchweed take away,” said Majesty, gently, “You should go to see the Moochick. He knows more about potions than me, he can explain these things to you.” Majesty looked at her friend perceptively. “He might be able to give you something for the night-terrors and the shaking.”
Catrina shrugged this off. “I’m all right. I had it once before when we ran out of the potion – a long time ago, before we got the Bushwoolies in. It will pass.”
“You have more strength than you know, Catrina. There is a type of power that has nothing to do with controlling lightning bolts and storm clouds, and you have it in plenty.”
Catrina sighed. It was easy for Majesty to say these things: Majesty, who had magic and self-confidence and a kingdom. Majesty most likely did not even know what uncertainty was. Catrina felt uncertain all the time these days: uncertain and weak. The world had made so much more sense when she had had the potion. She always knew exactly what to do, and had the power to do it. If only she could have that feeling again, she would use it properly, use it to make herself the best she could be.
All was not lost. After the first time they had run out of the potion, she had taken to keeping a bottle hidden for a true emergency, a bottle even Rep did not know about. She still had it. Only a small bottle, but a drop would do. Half a drop. If she had the old powers back again, she would not even need to use them. Just knowing she had them would be enough. She would be herself again, not this pale helpless shadow.
Majesty was still talking: dispensing wisdom in that slightly didactic way she had, as if Catrina were one of her little ponies. A foolish way to carry on, when they could be equals. What if she was simply afraid of Catrina being stronger than her?
“All will be well in time, Catrina,” said Majesty, “I know it's a long and dark road. But I think you will come out of it with strengths you didn't even know you possessed. Just give it time.”
Time, yes. There would be time later to sneak away to the place deep in the forest where she had hidden that bottle. No one would think anything of it if she just went for a little walk by herself. And then....
“Yes, Majesty,” said Catrina, and Majesty felt pleased to see such a genuine smile on the catwoman's face, “Yes, you're right. I must just give it time.”
The other thing that annoys me about her right at the end (besides her wavering voice) is that she needs reassurance from Rep that she's beautiful. Really? "Hmm, could be awkward going to a party where I tried to enslave everyone, but anyway the most important thing is: am I hot?" Catrina, I'm begging you, do the drugs. Do all the drugs. :P
I do wish Firefly was in it, though. Her toy actually WAS sold this year (brought back from the previous year with new, curly hair) so I don't really get why she was excluded. (Moondancer, Glory, Applejack, Bow-Tie, and Medley were also sold this year.)
Posey sounds British? Is it just me? Not that she has a lot of lines . . .
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And Skydancer wasn't even sold that year
WOW . . . I've watched EfC soooo many times and that never occurred to me, but you're right! Skydancer is a Year 2 pony! So it really doesn't make any sense not to have Firefly bringing Megan in . . .
The discussion on Posey's accent - please no. British people don't talk like that. And there's no such thing as a British accent, because Britain is 4 countries, not just England anyway. What you guys really mean is an English accent, but there are a lot of English dialects and none of them sound like Posey. The voice artist overenunciates her syllables, that's all.
The nanny comment was wrong on so many levels that I am not even going to start.
The disappointing thing about Catrina's becoming unassertive when she became "good" was . . . it kind of makes me think she should keep taking witchweed. It doesn't take over her personality completely because she's able to choose to blow up the witchweed machine at the very end, when she's all bulked up. Maybe she'd be assertive but not evil if she took a lower dose? We don't actually know that the potion is 'bad'. It could be like Captain America's super-soldier serum.
The other thing that annoys me about her right at the end (besides her wavering voice) is that she needs reassurance from Rep that she's beautiful. Really? "Hmm, could be awkward going to a party where I tried to enslave everyone, but anyway the most important thing is: am I hot?" Catrina, I'm begging you, do the drugs. Do all the drugs. :P
Don't get me wrong, though, I do like this special. It's my 2nd favorite (after RaMC). I do wish Firefly was in it, though. Her toy actually WAS sold this year (brought back from the previous year with new, curly hair) so I don't really get why she was excluded. (Moondancer, Glory, Applejack, Bow-Tie, and Medley were also sold this year.)
Baby Moondancer was my favorite as a child so of course I'm happy to see her having a big role. (Sidenote, wasn't it nice when G1 babies talked normally instead of in baby talk? Enjoy it while you can . . .)
Posey sounds British? Is it just me? Not that she has a lot of lines . . .
Although I generally like the RaMC designs more than the EfC designs, I actually like the sea pony designs better in EfC. They look a little more . . . natural. ;)
I don't even mind the "parade of costumes" at the end, even though it was blatantly tacked on to show off the Pony Wear and did nothing to further the plot. :P At least it gave us that cute visual of the baby sea pony splashing Baby Surprise. (And yes, I noticed some ponies got 'repeated' in order to show off all the outfits, lol!)
The other thing that annoys me about her right at the end (besides her wavering voice) is that she needs reassurance from Rep that she's beautiful. Really? "Hmm, could be awkward going to a party where I tried to enslave everyone, but anyway the most important thing is: am I hot?" Catrina, I'm begging you, do the drugs. Do all the drugs. :P
Hahaha! Yeah that was eyeroll worthy. Just really stereotypical writing. The opposite of loud and dominant is soft-spoken and insecure. Nothing inbetween. She became a "proper lady" again.
The other thing that annoys me about her right at the end (besides her wavering voice) is that she needs reassurance from Rep that she's beautiful. Really? "Hmm, could be awkward going to a party where I tried to enslave everyone, but anyway the most important thing is: am I hot?" Catrina, I'm begging you, do the drugs. Do all the drugs. :P
Hahaha! Yeah that was eyeroll worthy. Just really stereotypical writing. The opposite of loud and dominant is soft-spoken and insecure. Nothing inbetween. She became a "proper lady" again.
My own take-away is that this has got to be the weirdest MLP special of all. Slave labor to produce drugs for the 1%. So weirdly topical even nowadays and they put that into MLP. Who still wants to pretend G1 was all about crying and tea parties? :lol:
I like to think that ponies only wear clothes for special occasions like the costume ball or a dance recital and the rest of the time they don’t mind not wearing clothes.Makes sense. It's like how they have things like the Grand Galloping Gala in G4.
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I like Dressed Like a Dream, even if it is a commercial for ponywear. After the Glitter and Gold Jem ep which is literally the most blatant clothing advertising in animation ever made, Catrina is really mild. But it is hard to advertise ponywear in a way because they don't normally wear them. And if they are wearing it, it asks questions about the times they aren;t.
Reminds me of the infamous birthday suit advert for ponywear in the UK...where one of the Groom & Style Ponies forgot that someone's birthday party was a costume party...
I like Dressed Like a Dream, even if it is a commercial for ponywear. After the Glitter and Gold Jem ep which is literally the most blatant clothing advertising in animation ever made, Catrina is really mild. But it is hard to advertise ponywear in a way because they don't normally wear them. And if they are wearing it, it asks questions about the times they aren;t.
Reminds me of the infamous birthday suit advert for ponywear in the UK...where one of the Groom & Style Ponies forgot that someone's birthday party was a costume party...
That sounds really funny.