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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Skelletonimp on January 15, 2022, 11:20:27 AM
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Hey everyone!
I just stumbled upon this website and I think I'm missing something.
Ok, some ponies belong in this list but others???
https://rarest.org/entertainment/my-little-ponies
Am i missing something or is this just something made by people who dont know what they are talking about?
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>Medley and Moondancer
>no Mimic or Takaras
H-Huh??
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Oh no, I forsee a skyrocket in prices...
But I would like to know where they got the prices for these ponies. Some I can see but others??? :huh:
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maybe a Greek Medley? this article feels like someone just looked at eBay and made some assumptions. I agree on some of these but it seems like they picked ponies with rare variants. its a little misleading for a non MLP collector who just skims through and then lists ponies found in their attic on eBay. it has the feel of those "you may have rare items in your attic" local new articles i see from time to time. they say all my little ponies are valuable because a super rare variant sold for a few thousand.
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I read the small print and noticed that the prices are for a MIP Medley or a prototype BB Sweet Celebrations. But even then they don't sound right. Anyway, I agree that it's an odd article. You'd have to compare prices of all loose ponies or all MIB ponies for it to make sense to me.
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In short. It's nonsense.
Also damaging nonsense, because it looks like it's based around factual information.
I believe there probably have been MOC versions of some of these sold for those prices; whether they actually sold for it or were listed at that price is debateable. But the price for Pristina in box sounds like something you'd see on ebay these days.
I suspect it's not done with malice, just confusion based on ebay prices and maybe garbled ebay descriptions.
So just a note here. The images are from the MLP wiki. So is some of the erroneous information. For example, MLPWiki reports that Spain only had mother and father from the Sweet Celebrations family. That's not true. They had the whole family in Spain, and across all of Europe. The mother and father reference means made in spain, not released in Spain.
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Sweet_Celebrations_Family (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Sweet_Celebrations_Family)
The person who wrote that blog did their research, but mistakenly.
I don't know where the prototype information came from but suspect a confusion between the prototype birthday babies and the real release, since the SC family are also party themed.
Not all the details are incorrect. That is indeed a Canadian Moondancer MOC. Many of the small details about the ponies are not incorrect either. Some are, but a lot suggests reading of an ID site, probably also the wiki.
The reality is that so long as there are websites online with ambiguous, gappy or false information about any pony release, lists like this are inevitable. Wrong information gets spread about more easily than it is to fix. I've seen just as mad things said on the Arena and online over the years, some of which have ended up costing people money. It's just a good lesson to remind people to do proper research before buying a pony, and before sharing information about a pony online, because it can turn into a monster very easily.
In regards to them being the top 8, I can only assume this was a sweep done right before Christmas based on what auctions were on sale at the time. The motivation behind it is a mystery though.
I wouldn't include Mimic in a list of the 8 rarest anyway. Most likely they would all be OOAK ponies.
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it looks like a clickbait type site. they have a lot of links back to eBay so maybe an affiliate marketing campaign for eBay. the social media links go nowhere. to me it seems like someone trying to make a little money with some hastily produced content.
i don't think its malicious either. their about page says its for entertainment purposes. it does bother me that they are equating expensive with rare. i'm not sure why they have a .org
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So, we're on par with Beanie Baby collectors now?
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Wow, I wish I had the confidence the person who wrote the article and asserted that information as factual despite having done .2 seconds of research has.
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Lol, wow. *looks at my Medley on my shelf* never knew I had such a goldmine there :P
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Since they included Nirvanas they really should have put Greek Ladybird at number 1.
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This was pure torture to read! :lol: Basically every other sentence in the article contains a factual error. Or (possibly even more annoying to me) statements that are somewhat based in fact, but they phrase it in a way that would give most people the completely wrong impression. It's unfortunate that some of the misleading phrasing comes from the MLPWiki, but the writer of the article further muddles things up to make them even more misleading.
But yeah, this article clearly isn't intended for MLP collectors, but rather the general populace who find it amusing that old toys are selling for a lot of money (and might want to check if any of their old toys are on the list). It's not an accurate account of what buying/selling old MLPs in general is really like, but most who click on the article won't care.
I don't know where the prototype information came from but suspect a confusion between the prototype birthday babies and the real release, since the SC family are also party themed.
A "Prototype Baby Brother Sweet Celebrations" was listed on eBay back in November last year. Basically a white blank of the baby brother pose without hair or paint. So there was likely no connection to the prototype mail order birthday babies.
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I may not be the most knowledgeable when it comes to pony rarities but even i was able to see that this article was full of nonsense.. That hurt to read
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I dont think Id take that as a good top 10 list. I wonder what they were thinking??
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Wow, I have Moondancer, Medley, AND Princess Pristina! Who knew I had so many rare ponies? :lol:
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I don’t have the best knowledge of the G1 ponies but I can tell that there is something fishy about that list. It seems like most G1 collectors own a Medley and a Moondancer. How did Mimic not make the list? So much for ‘rare’ ponies!
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Oh man, someone please tell me that’s not even close for Princess Pristina? I think she’s cute and hope people don’t start hiking her price over this. I did run across a Princess Pony (Tiffany I believe? - the blue one with white hair) in a local vintage toy store the other day and was surprised when the guy working there looked up recently sold ones on EBay and priced her at $75. He said that was the shop’s pricing policy, though he’d been hoping he could give me a good price and wasn’t surprised when I balked. So…a lot of ponies I remember as seeming easy to come by seem to be going for a LOT these days! Like ones I sort of had on my “wouldn’t mind having eventually but I’m in no rush to get” list are suddenly outside my budget. Oof.
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My question is what were they on, there is a HUGE difference between list price,and selling price.
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I went and corrected this person. Once again, greedy idiots don't do their homework.
Post Merge: January 22, 2022, 02:56:04 PM
Oh man, someone please tell me that’s not even close for Princess Pristina? I think she’s cute and hope people don’t start hiking her price over this. I did run across a Princess Pony (Tiffany I believe? - the blue one with white hair) in a local vintage toy store the other day and was surprised when the guy working there looked up recently sold ones on EBay and priced her at $75. He said that was the shop’s pricing policy, though he’d been hoping he could give me a good price and wasn’t surprised when I balked. So…a lot of ponies I remember as seeming easy to come by seem to be going for a LOT these days! Like ones I sort of had on my “wouldn’t mind having eventually but I’m in no rush to get” list are suddenly outside my budget. Oof.
Nowhere near that. She goes between $50 and $65 last I knew.
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*facepalm* Not one of THESE articles again! I hate it when these totally inaccurate "what ~*RaRiTiEs*~ might be in YOUR attic?!?!??/" posts show up, some random non-collector always sees it and the prices end up going up because people are trying to sell their "ULTRA rare perfect condition Peachy, special bald edition!!" =_=
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@Lilja, I didn't know that. Although was it a genuine prototype? My first thought on that was do the HQcustom people make a white base in that pose?
On Pristina. Mint in box, possibly she might sell for that amount. Loose with accessories might bump her up a bit. Generally loose, I agree with other people, probably not as high as that. The writer of the blog should be clearer about whether they mean in package or not. They're not using any actual collector terms to make that clear.
I would also wonder if maybe the expensive moondancer moc did happen because her card is unusual to see. It doesn't change the value of MD or of MD MOC being far lower. But if one incident happened, and lockdown has created some mad pricies, I guess it may have sparked a social media conversation somewhere that inspired this post to exist.
When people have some facts mixed in with falsehoods, they sound a lot more plausible than when it's all completely wrong.
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These lists are good for a laugh. XD
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@Lilja, I didn't know that. Although was it a genuine prototype? My first thought on that was do the HQcustom people make a white base in that pose?
On Pristina. Mint in box, possibly she might sell for that amount. Loose with accessories might bump her up a bit. Generally loose, I agree with other people, probably not as high as that. The writer of the blog should be clearer about whether they mean in package or not. They're not using any actual collector terms to make that clear.
I would also wonder if maybe the expensive moondancer moc did happen because her card is unusual to see. It doesn't change the value of MD or of MD MOC being far lower. But if one incident happened, and lockdown has created some mad pricies, I guess it may have sparked a social media conversation somewhere that inspired this post to exist.
When people have some facts mixed in with falsehoods, they sound a lot more plausible than when it's all completely wrong.
I might pay well for a Moondancer on a pristine card but, there are a lot of factors involved. Such as, covid ruined my year. :lol: Mostly, I think sellers are going to be disappointed if they follow this guide.
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Meh. I don't have a lot to say about 'rarest' ponies. Personally I think it's subjective and where you grew up.
I had the darndest time ever finding Tickle back in the 80's. For me even back then there were certain ponies that were HTF. And just a notice, Mimic was not one of them.
The other thing, the photo of Rapunzel, I know I'm nitpicky but her hair did not look like that when she came from Hasbro. She did not have big curls, her hair was more wavy, etc.
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Rapunzel's aura has been created by mad ponypeople though. I know that mine cost $80. I traded for her, but my trade partner told me so we could work out an equal trade based on monetary value at the time. Yes, mine has had a tail cut, but considering the current price, I would imagine a mint one back then was only $200 in contrast to what it is now.
As a kid I just wanted Medley and Glory :'(
I've found a Mimic here; she wasn't sold here. I've never found Medley, who also wasn't sold here, but I havre found Mimic. I've never believed her to be rare. All the suggestions about her being shortpacked etc are also created by mad ponypeople rumours.
So yeah, these kinds of sites do have an impact...maybe. But I think probably years of myths being circulated in collecting communities about a particular pony's rarity is more damaging to actual collector prices.
One or two people who know nothing about ponies hiking their prices because of a random online blog can mostly be ignored. Collectors regularly pricing a pony at a certain high price because it's the going rate is the thing that really causes pony inflation.
I don't like sites like this basically because I don't like pony misinformation, but we're pretty guilty as a community of hiking our own prices for random reasons.
Look at Glowing Magic/GnS ponies. They used to be very normally priced...what the heck happened there. O.o.
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the prices of the Glow N Show really surprised me. i ended up selling mine last year since the prices were high. we're buying a house and i wanted to pay off remaining debts first so i sold a larger part of my collection.
i do wonder if platforms like eBay also contribute to rising prices since there is a seller fee. like if i pay $100 for a pony and the seller fee is 10%. so if i sell through eBay i'll list for $110 or $120 to at least get what i paid and a little profit for the trouble of listing and going to the PO. then if the next person does the same over time the prices rise. When i sold last year i looked at ebay prices since a lot of my ponies were bought years ago and the prices had changed. then i ended up doing auctions for the ones that didn't sell. i also took offers for some. i don't really like selling ponies but sometimes life circumstances take preference. being able to sell my ponies has helped me through a few rough patches.
i have mixed feelings about the rise in prices. it makes collecting a lot more expensive but i guess it's just how markets work. i'm not going to sell a pony at a low price if i can get a higher price. unless it's a special circumstance. but it does seem silly at times when a plastic toy that originally cost $4-5 are being sold for over $100. i don't really like the idea of certain ponies being a status symbol.
Here's another article i found when i was trying to find out what ponies cost in the 1980s. https://www.eightieskids.com/8-my-little-pony-toys-that-could-earn-you-a-fortune/ it's also very silly.
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I absolutely love that half of these decline to mention that the reason that some of these examples sold for so much was the fact that they were either 1)euro/nirvana, 2)MOC, or 3)both. Does this mean I can now make bank on the ~5 different Medleys and Moondancers sitting in a basket waiting to be washed for at least 3 yrs now? I can see the dollar signs already.
Reminds me of the article that stated that the Baby Moondancer from Greece (http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Baby_Moondancer#Greek_Baby_Moondancer) was sought after because her symbol is a star & moon, and definitely not the fact that she's FROM GREECE.
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@Lilja, I didn't know that. Although was it a genuine prototype? My first thought on that was do the HQcustom people make a white base in that pose?
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Saved a picture. Looks genuine to me, and it did sell for $1100. (I realized the reason the seller listed it as "Baby Brother Sweet Celebrations" is probably because it's the only pony in that pose sold in US stores)
Also got to add that I found this sentence in the article very funny: "The Medley ponies are notable for their Pegasus-like tiny wings on their side." (as if it's a unique feature to her only :P)
There's so much text in this article that seems like it was added just to meet a word count. :biggrin:
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That makes sense. Lucky is more likely. It may be real. I have seen less convincing 'prototypes' sell for more.
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Oh how I hate clickbait. now everyone is going to think it's normal and acceptable to charge $30 for Peachy and anyone who knows I collect MLP is going to assume that I am funding my child's college degree with plastic horses!
oh to return to the days of spending $20 on a random ebay "horse toy" lot with a scan of a few ponies thrown onto the scanner bed, and getting a whole banker's file box of MLP in return