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Title: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (3-11-17 front hoof fixed!)
Post by: wystearya on November 26, 2016, 09:51:44 AM


3-11-2017  >> The front hoof can now hold it's pose!  Also rooted hair pics!  (See latest reply)

1-8-2017 >> Got a little progress made, see newest reply.

12-3-2016 >> I have a few updates in the newest reply.  Now with strung pics!

12-1-2016 >> She is here!!!  Pics will be in new reply!!


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I just placed an order for a 3D printed BJD pony base from Silverbeam.  I tried to find a current topic about these, but the only thing I found was too old for replies.

Specifically, I ordered this base: https://www.shapeways.com/product/6FX89GZ2H/celestia-bjd-base-small-unicorn-type?optionId=57933156 (https://www.shapeways.com/product/6FX89GZ2H/celestia-bjd-base-small-unicorn-type?optionId=57933156)

I can't wait to see it in person!  Silverbeam has a couple videos featuring these pony bjd bases.  They look really cute! 

I'm just wondering if anyone else here has one?  I couldn't find much about them other than one video review on youtube and Silverbeam's own pics.

I have some ideas on how I plan to customize her, but I would love to see others if anyone has one to share!   ^.^
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (correct forum?)
Post by: Tulips on November 26, 2016, 02:28:27 PM
I have one of her older prototype regular earth pony bases. I'm not too pleased with its poseability. I think the design must have been improved since then, or mine is strung wrong, because some of the legs flick out rather than hold certain positions and the hooves are tricky to position. I never customised it, I found it fascinating to leave blank so once I got it to hold properly in a trotting pose I didn't want to touch it again. When it works though I love it lol. :P

I hope yours is amazing though, I'll look forward to seeing what you do with it.
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (correct forum?)
Post by: Griffin on November 28, 2016, 01:25:02 PM
I'm sorry I can't help, just popped in to say I look forward to pics when you receive it! ;)
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (correct forum?)
Post by: wystearya on November 28, 2016, 03:16:51 PM
Thanks!

Looks like it shipped today!  So I hope to be able to show it off soon.  Then find time to do my customizing.. :P  lol
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (She is here!!)
Post by: wystearya on December 01, 2016, 01:27:06 PM
I have some pics to share today!!   :biggrin:

I literally opened the box maybe 30 minutes ago.  I am really excited to share, lol!

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Ok this is not a joke.  She comes in this mesh thing.  I saw this pic on the shapeways site, guess I assumed this would be removed before shipping. But I find it funny, it's like my version of a 'Hatchimal'.  lol!  Mini Lalaloopsy is there for size comparison.  I got the smaller size Celestia Unicorn base.

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Here is everything out of the mesh.  I used the pictured tool to *carefully* break into the mesh.  I will say this plastic is indeed strong!

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Just a couple of closer shots.

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This is the lower part of the back leg.  The thing in it is a needle.  I didn't know this joint area has more of a slit than a hole.   This is the same on the lower part of the front legs too.  I thought I would be sure to share!

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This is to show some small metal hooks I plan to use in stringing.  These are parts I am not using from a Ball Jointed Doll.
I am hoping this will help with posing.

Some notes:

Since this comes in the mesh, the parts need a LOT of the powder cleaned out of them!  When I first looked at them I was worried they were made wrong.  Thankfully the powder is *very* easy to clean out.

There is a tiny little tail hole!  I have not pictured this yet, but I will before I do any modification. 

The doll does feel grainy, but it's not that bad.  I do have a set of fine grit sandpapers I plan to use to make her a bit smoother.

I am already very happy with my purchase!  The plastic is really strong.  I am actually happy to have the mesh "egg" to play around with a bit.  The parts look like they will fit together great!  I am going to try to string tonight, but with a busy family that might not happen.  lol!  But Soon!!


Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (She is here!!)
Post by: Galactica on December 01, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
I have the old version-  it's kinda neat but very fragile feeling and the posing is not great.

I hope the new one is greatly improved- I like the idea of it a lot.
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16)
Post by: wystearya on December 03, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
I was trying to string last night and have a few new pics and notes.

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The front legs had some issues with posing.  As in the knee joint would not hold any kind of angle at all.  After looking at it I think this is because the ball part of the joint is too small.  I did make a modification and carved a groove into the upper leg part to allow for bending.  The groove is only in the back part of the leg.  This worked!  The front leg I carved can now hold an angle at the knee.  >> I also increased the length of the slit where the string comes through.

The back legs seem totally fine.  No issues posing the back legs at all.

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In this pic I am trying to show the difference in the front an rear hooves.  The back hooves pose and 'point' nicely, however the front hooves do not.  The main difference I see is the height of the stick part that holds the string.  The rear hoof it is much lower than the front.  I think that this may be key.  The front is too high and so when the hoof is bent/pointed the string just pulls the hoof back in.  I am going to try to fix this with some sort of clay or maybe epoxy.  (I have the mesh left to test on for reaction to epoxy.)

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This is just a pic of the tiny tail hole, as promised.  The light was terrible today, but you can at least see it here.  I do plan to make this larger before adding hair.

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I am still happy with my doll, though I wish the front legs had not needed the modifications.  The back legs work great.  No issue at all, the hooves point and everything.  I am not sure why the front legs have all the issues.  But I know I can fix the knee joint (as I did on the one leg) and I think/hope to fix the hoof joint too. 

Like I said, on the front knee the ball part of the joint looks to be too small.  Maybe someone could build it back up, but I didn't trust myself to do that.  My fix of carving the upper leg to make room for bending did the trick, but still.  Just weird to have one set of legs work without issue and one set need modded on the same doll.  But at least I had the back legs to compare to and try to figure out fixes.

I will keep updating here with my modifications and results.

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Post Merge: December 03, 2016, 06:02:48 PM

I have some pics of her all strung now.  :D

Please NOTE that I have NOT yet tried to fix the front hooves.  But I was eager to string her and see what she could do once I had fixed her front knees.

I am very pleased so far.   ^.^

On to the pics!!

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One last note:  I put a tiny bit of white fabric into her front knee joints to help with posing.  I think you can see this in some of the pics, as I did a rush job.
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: BethMcBeth on December 05, 2016, 01:12:48 PM
Wow! Very interesting! Its also crazy to see just how long and hyper extended Princess Pony legs really are!! Have fun!
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: lostpony on December 06, 2016, 01:57:10 AM
What a great thing! and you really made it work.  Its pose-ability could definitely be more robust but I've never seen anything like it and it has great potential.

With all that effort to get it together, do you have a vision for her?

She doesn't come with wings either...still so much for you to do.  Great work so far!
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: wystearya on December 06, 2016, 04:10:31 AM
Wow! Very interesting! Its also crazy to see just how long and hyper extended Princess Pony legs really are!! Have fun!

Thanks!   Yeah, the legs are long, but I like them.  :)



Post Merge: December 06, 2016, 04:13:34 AM

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What a great thing! and you really made it work.  Its pose-ability could definitely be more robust but I've never seen anything like it and it has great potential.

With all that effort to get it together, do you have a vision for her?

She doesn't come with wings either...still so much for you to do.  Great work so far!

Thank you! 

I could have ordered a version with wings (same price I believe) but I didn't want the wings.  I *do* have an idea for her! 

I hope to try to get the front hooves fixed this weekend.  I am going to try anyway!
If I get them working, I'll be moving on to making holes to add a mane and increasing the size of the tail hole. 

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Thanks for the replies!  I will continue to share my progress as it is made!  :)
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: Uninu on December 06, 2016, 06:52:24 PM
It's kind of a shame that it needs so much work, as the design is very pretty. I look forward to seeing what you make of her!
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: Moonbreeze on December 22, 2016, 04:53:42 AM
Awesome job. I've been wanting to get one of these a while now. Can't wait to see what design you have in mind for her :)
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: wystearya on December 22, 2016, 09:07:25 AM
Thank you!   ^.^

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With the holidays and other things going on I have had to put her on hold for a bit.  (Not to mention my issues with getting the color hair I want.)

But I am hoping that in the coming weeks I can start making some progress on her again. 

I will be sure to update once I do!
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: lostpony on December 24, 2016, 11:24:57 PM
She's going to be a betta....no?
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (Update 12-3-16 ~ Strung pics!!)
Post by: wystearya on December 31, 2016, 05:57:34 PM
She's going to be a betta....no?

Ah, cool idea!  No, not what I am doing, though with the looks of my fish and my actual idea's color scheme I could see why you would think so!
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (1-8-17 some progress)
Post by: wystearya on January 08, 2017, 08:52:23 AM
I finally had a time (and desire) to work on my little BJD pony yesterday.

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Holes for rehairing.  I actually made them all larger once I started putting in hair. 
I didn't go any further down towards the neck for a reason:  Inside the head is a bar for holding the elastic.  If I went any further down I would risk caring into this bar and possibly weaken the part.

Also, I made these holes by using a very small drill bit by HAND.  It was not in a drill, I can't hold it that steady.  :P
I also used a craft knife and needles.  It was a slow process, but it worked.  :)

I am not quite finished with the re-hair, so no pics of that yet.

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This one is odd so let me explain:

I am trying to fix the front hoof so it holds a pose like the rear hooves.  I put some clear epoxy on this part and the needles are there to keep a hole for the elastic. 

It is dry today and I have worked the needles out.  I am slowly carving the epoxy into the desired shape.  I will add pics when I am finished to show what I did.  >> I am hoping this works and holds when I re-string..!

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This is all for now.  Nothing exciting, but I am just glad to have made any progress at all. 
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (1-8-17 some progress)
Post by: lostpony on January 08, 2017, 12:16:23 PM
Yay congrats for getting back to your project.
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (1-8-17 some progress)
Post by: Galactica on January 18, 2017, 02:38:42 PM
Oh cool!  I neer did ad hair to mine-
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (1-8-17 some progress)
Post by: wystearya on March 09, 2017, 03:51:15 PM
Sorry for the huge lapse.

But I have had some success!  I have been able to get the front hoof to hold the point!  It's just one and I need to do the other.  I hope to finish this weekend and post pics.  I also will have her done with rooted hair.  :)
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (1-8-17 some progress)
Post by: lostpony on March 09, 2017, 09:10:35 PM
Yay cant wait to see. There was some secret thing or other too, wasnt there? , hope to see how it all turns out.
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (1-8-17 some progress)
Post by: wystearya on March 11, 2017, 11:35:04 AM
Nothing secret that I know of, lol!  Unless it was my 'theme'.  She is heavily based off of the animated "The Last Unicorn".  <3

I am not 100% finished, but have some progress pics!

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This is both FRONT hooves.   The one on the RIGHT is the one I have modified.  You can see how the 'bar' that holds the string is now much lower.

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This is the modified front hoof.  I have just the leg strung here and I am holding tension on it with my hand.  You can see it now holds the point position!  (You can also see that after all the handling I need to find a way to clean the hoof.  :P )

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Just another pic of the fixed hoof.  Sorry for the quality, this was hard to get my hand steady!

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I need to add some more hair to a few of the mane plugs, but I have most of the hair in now!

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Another shot of the hair.  It is a mix of Dolly Hair Arctic Frost and Diamond. 

This may be all for this weekend, but I wanted you all to know that this has WORKED and the front hoof can be modified in a way that allows full posing.  :)
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (3-11-17 front hoof fixed!)
Post by: lostpony on March 11, 2017, 02:16:24 PM
Looks great! Mm last unicorn niiiiice.

Shes a little beside herself at"the moment, har har
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (3-11-17 front hoof fixed!)
Post by: wystearya on March 11, 2017, 04:58:57 PM
Looks great! Mm last unicorn niiiiice.

Shes a little beside herself at"the moment, har har

Thank you!

And LOL!  :)
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (3-11-17 front hoof fixed!)
Post by: therainbowtroll on March 12, 2017, 11:49:35 AM
OoooO! this is lookg great! Cant wait to see it finished
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (3-11-17 front hoof fixed!)
Post by: Griffin on March 13, 2017, 01:32:46 AM
She's going to look stunning when finished!
Title: Re: Silverbeam Pony BJD base! (3-11-17 front hoof fixed!)
Post by: wystearya on March 13, 2017, 06:01:55 PM
Thank you!  I hope to get time to work on the other hoof this weekend. 

And figure out how to clean it up, the texture of the plastic might make cleaning interesting.  :P
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