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Title: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 07, 2013, 12:38:46 PM
I was wondering if there is anyone out there who knows if it's easy to get ahold of the pitch bibles, or whatever they're called, for each series.  Basically it's the planning for the show, what they were thinking of putting in to the show, and the like.

Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Jinxxy on June 07, 2013, 02:27:06 PM
This would be an interesting read! Giving you a bump!
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on June 07, 2013, 03:02:01 PM
They do exist for G1's shows... only a few collectors have them, as they are very very very collectible and hard to find.  :)  G2 didn't have a show, G3 wasn't really "high quality" so most collectors didn't care.  G4... well, I'm sure they will trickle out eventually unless they are destroyed as part of official paperwork that Hasbro has shredded to protect their brand/confidential info.  :) 
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: hathorcat on June 07, 2013, 03:17:51 PM
I think I only know of 2 in collector's hands to be honest and the last one on ebay was well into the $300 figure I think. To be honest I am surprised it did not go higher it was certainly worth more in my opinion.

You may have more luck with G3 but to be honest these things tend to have to be returned to the studio/company after shows complete and would often have been destroyed. This is going to make tracking them down very hard.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Tirac on June 07, 2013, 10:01:04 PM
UGH. I WISH I had a G1 one.
Naturally, since pitch bibles were most likely only used by select members of the staff, they're probably one of a kind and really rare.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 07, 2013, 10:29:16 PM
Yeah, I had a feeling this wouldn't be easy.  Thanks for the replies so far though. :)
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Lyra on June 08, 2013, 01:55:09 AM
I would expect the pitch bible in PDF form to leak onto the internet eveentually, normally companies just email their pitch bibles around to clients, edit: well for G4 XD
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: hathorcat on June 08, 2013, 04:43:54 AM
I can believe that of licensing packs, Lyra. LPs always end up getting leaked over time. But show bibles are a different thing - they really only should ever be accessible by show staff and sometimes a limited number of them.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: reanna-mator on June 08, 2013, 09:23:09 AM
Lauren Faust mentioned the pitch bible for FiM in a recent Q&A, stating, unsurprisingly, that she'd love to share it but it belongs to Hasbro so it really isn't hers to share. Too bad.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Lyra on June 08, 2013, 10:25:20 AM
I can believe that of licensing packs, Lyra. LPs always end up getting leaked over time. But show bibles are a different thing - they really only should ever be accessible by show staff and sometimes a limited number of them.

Hathorcat, I am quite sure I was not talking about liscencing packs. I was talking about pitch bibles. I was not refering to studios that produce pitch bibles for animated series as something that I am outside of - but part of.
Studios often share pitch bibles with people beyond their own staff, for example other companies providing services and funding, sometimes printed sometimes as files.
FiM is not new anymore and because it has such a largley 'enthusiastic' fanbase on the internet my personal opinion was that it was 'probably going to leak eventually' which could be next week or in 80 years etc  and is just speculation
EDIT: I made my post a lot shorter
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: StoryDreamer on June 08, 2013, 10:44:05 AM
I've seen press kits with information from pitch bibles, but some show bibles are pretty lengthy, with over 50 pages.

There are actually two versions of show bibles - pitch bibles, and the other kind that are expanded on as the series goes on. Like they have terminology, character sketches, catch phrases, etc. That is given to freelancer writers/writers for hire on shows, etc. It might also be given to people who write books for the show (tie-ins).

They're going to be very expensive if you manage to track one down.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Tirac on June 08, 2013, 11:11:10 AM
Would someone who has a G1 pitch bible even be able to convert it to PDF?
G4 you could get in serious trouble, but does Hasbro still keep the muzzle on G1 stuff like that?
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on June 08, 2013, 11:21:19 AM
Would someone who has a G1 pitch bible even be able to convert it to PDF?
G4 you could get in serious trouble, but does Hasbro still keep the muzzle on G1 stuff like that?

G1 they don't care, no, but if you were the person who spent that kind of money on an OOAK collectible, would YOU upload it to the internet?   Kind of makes it not OOAK after that.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: StoryDreamer on June 08, 2013, 11:33:21 AM
There's a He-Man one someone has shared online.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on June 08, 2013, 11:52:59 AM
Lauren Faust mentioned the pitch bible for FiM in a recent Q&A, stating, unsurprisingly, that she'd love to share it but it belongs to Hasbro so it really isn't hers to share. Too bad.
That sounds about right.  It's a shame that the wrong people seem to be in control of things like that.  :sad:
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Tirac on June 08, 2013, 01:00:36 PM
Would someone who has a G1 pitch bible even be able to convert it to PDF?
G4 you could get in serious trouble, but does Hasbro still keep the muzzle on G1 stuff like that?

G1 they don't care, no, but if you were the person who spent that kind of money on an OOAK collectible, would YOU upload it to the internet?   Kind of makes it not OOAK after that.
Oh, that is true I guess.
I suppose it's got everything to do with how you shared it and whether or not you'd prefer to 1: have something a secret that no one else has or 2. Make a lot of people happy.
I would personally share it, but in such a way that people would know I've done it. Ex: not make it into a PDF and put it onto my own personal website instead.
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: hathorcat on June 08, 2013, 02:07:48 PM
I can believe that of licensing packs, Lyra. LPs always end up getting leaked over time. But show bibles are a different thing - they really only should ever be accessible by show staff and sometimes a limited number of them.

Hathorcat, I am quite sure I was not talking about liscencing packs. I was talking about pitch bibles. I was not refering to studios that produce pitch bibles for animated series as something that I am outside of - but part of.
Studios often share pitch bibles with people beyond their own staff, for example other companies providing services and funding, sometimes printed sometimes as files.
FiM is not new anymore and because it has such a largley 'enthusiastic' fanbase on the internet my personal opinion was that it was 'probably going to leak eventually' which could be next week or in 80 years etc  and is just speculation
EDIT: I made my post a lot shorter

:) Yes, that's a great point - depending on the show and the studio, it could very well be important for the studio to share a bible with those outside. But its never shared with the intention of it getting to a wider audience or a general market. As you say perhaps one day it will leak, perhaps it wont. Or perhaps with this super intense fan base ninja bronies will track it down one day. :P But unlike licencing packs which tend to often fall into the wrong hands, pitch bibles are much more closely protected, don't you think?
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Wildshadow on June 08, 2013, 10:22:09 PM
Is a pitch bible in the same lines as a writer's guide? This post has confused me...
Title: Re: Pitch bibles for all shows?
Post by: Lightning Twirl on June 09, 2013, 12:25:51 AM
Lauren Faust mentioned the pitch bible for FiM in a recent Q&A, stating, unsurprisingly, that she'd love to share it but it belongs to Hasbro so it really isn't hers to share. Too bad.

I saw that too! :D too bad for sure..... at least some artwork original artwork is in the elements of harmony book, right? I wish G4 could have sea ponies and Firefly as RD's mom would be epic!
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