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It's my personal opinion, but yes I think the world in the G1 MLP cartoon is very boring and doesn't inspire much imagination. For most of the part you just have a bunch of ponies (all of which can be switched out to advertise new toys) living in a big pink building, which of course is a toy you can buy. Their closest community is super small and basically 100% dictated by which toys Hasbro are selling. They travel to different places and meet various creatures, but everything feels invented by the writers as they went along, not like it's part of a larger, coherent world. Most of the time the creatures they meet don't have any meaningful connection to the ponies (and once the episode is over, they're instantly forgotten). It's ok to like this style of storytelling of course, but I much prefer FIM's world where you have so many ponies and creatures living in different locations. Everything feels more coherent and connected, while still always having lots of room for expansion.
There was a series bible, Wildshadow has it and has posted pics from it in the past.http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,294582.0.htmlI'm pretty sure most, if not all, series have bibles or something similar.
The entire point of the G1 cartoon was to act as an advertisement for the toys. Not the other way around, like G4 was.
I find it interesting that you bash n Friends for centering on a community of ponies. Because last I checked, that's every MLP cartoon. So you'd better apply that criticism to Tales, G3 animation and FiM as well, because its My Little Pony. Sorry but that's hypocritical. Its like griping about Smurfs focusing mostly on Smurfs.
At Lilja and LadyAmaltheaBeing invented by writers as they went along? Why its almost as if that is how you write a story. Furthermore there were some overarcing plotlines that got tied up. And there were plenty of characters. And yes different writers did write it, so its not that surprising.I find it interesting that you bash n Friends for centering on a community of ponies. Because last I checked, that's every MLP cartoon. So you'd better apply that criticism to Tales, G3 animation and FiM as well, because its My Little Pony. Sorry but that's hypocritical. Its like griping about Smurfs focusing mostly on Smurfs. And yet they still traveled and met different sorts of creatures good and bad in other lands. And there were 2 other communities of talking ponies in the cartoon. Or did you forget that Flutter Valley and Greyvale exists? Oh and what about Tales island ponies? And the unexplained existence of Glow n Shows? And G3's Butterfly Island and Unicornia?
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on November 18, 2020, 12:57:41 PMAt Lilja and LadyAmaltheaBeing invented by writers as they went along? Why its almost as if that is how you write a story. Furthermore there were some overarcing plotlines that got tied up. And there were plenty of characters. And yes different writers did write it, so its not that surprising.I find it interesting that you bash n Friends for centering on a community of ponies. Because last I checked, that's every MLP cartoon. So you'd better apply that criticism to Tales, G3 animation and FiM as well, because its My Little Pony. Sorry but that's hypocritical. Its like griping about Smurfs focusing mostly on Smurfs. And yet they still traveled and met different sorts of creatures good and bad in other lands. And there were 2 other communities of talking ponies in the cartoon. Or did you forget that Flutter Valley and Greyvale exists? Oh and what about Tales island ponies? And the unexplained existence of Glow n Shows? And G3's Butterfly Island and Unicornia?What overarching plotlines ? The closest i see is the witches from the movie coming back in end of flutter valley but that isn't really an overarching plotline, just villains coming back.Also idk if i read their messages or yours wrong but i don't see anywhere them criticizing the fact it centers on a community of ponies? To me their criticism was more about the fact n friends is composed of disjointed adventures that have no consequence on the previous or next ones, and while i don't mind that, i can see how it would bother some people.
Meanwhile, we all spend our time on a forum dedicated to us talking about plastic toys made by hasbro, while at the same time some of us accuse the 80's cartoon of only being an advertisement to sell toys.Somehow, I'm feeling like the manipulation seems like a 30+ year success. Apparently, I'm not the only sucker round here.
Quote from: Pokeyonekenobie on November 18, 2020, 12:15:05 PMThe entire point of the G1 cartoon was to act as an advertisement for the toys. Not the other way around, like G4 was. The G4 show also exists to sell toys just as much as G1. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, I just don't think G1 did a good job as far as making an enjoyable cartoon out of it. The first two specials are fine, but from the movie onwards I can really only enjoy it as a subject of study nowadays (but I've watched the episodes hundreds of times since childhood).Quote from: Leave a Whisper on November 18, 2020, 12:57:41 PMI find it interesting that you bash n Friends for centering on a community of ponies. Because last I checked, that's every MLP cartoon. So you'd better apply that criticism to Tales, G3 animation and FiM as well, because its My Little Pony. Sorry but that's hypocritical. Its like griping about Smurfs focusing mostly on Smurfs. Actually the opposite is true. The one thing that always bothered me with the show since childhood was how little many of the stories focused on the ponies, and more on guest characters each episode (I like Tales a lot more, partly for this reason). Basically you seem to have misunderstood just about everything I said, but either way I don't think there's any reason to get this worked up about me not liking a piece of MLP media.This thread seems to have strayed very far from the original subject.
Quote from: KarentheUnicorn on November 18, 2020, 01:16:23 PMMeanwhile, we all spend our time on a forum dedicated to us talking about plastic toys made by hasbro, while at the same time some of us accuse the 80's cartoon of only being an advertisement to sell toys.Somehow, I'm feeling like the manipulation seems like a 30+ year success. Apparently, I'm not the only sucker round here.It is what it is. I'm not saying it was a bad thing, that's just what they did in the 80s.In case people are interested, I'm going to leave this here.https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/20-amazing-cartoons-created-to-simply-sell-toys/2900-2623/#1
I'm pretty sure anyone that grew up in the 80's watching those, even at the time we knew it was to sell toys, however it was because we liked the toys that we watched the cartoon.