The MLP Arena
Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Jupiter on June 30, 2021, 09:46:32 AM
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I've been out of pony collecting for a handful of years now and am going to start selling someone miscellaneous pony merchandise. I was checking eBay for sold prices and was kind of Blown Away by how much all the G1 stuff is selling for right now. Have the price has been this wild for a while or are they continuing to climb recently?
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The pandemic put $ signs in greedy, unknowledgable folks eyes.
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They have been steadily rising since G4, and have only skyrocketed during the pandemic.
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It is only natural that prices will rise as demand does and availability steadily decreases.
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It's crazy out there! What is especially annoying is that people are putting really shabby stuff online for insane prices. Like, at least give them a wash if you expect me to pay that much!
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I never saw prices this crazy until this year.I even saw some normal common ponies for over 30$. I’m hoping the prices will lower because it’s been really difficult for me to find stuff that’s actually worth it’s price.
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Yeah a lot of things rose up in price during the coarse of the pandemic. People have been scalping quite a lot during it. It's been happening with ponies, Pokemon cards, Squishmallows, the new gaming consoles....
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i've seen it happening in real life as well, the only g1s ive seen at flea markets this year have been in excess of $12 for very basic, common ponies like peachy. now, who knows if some other collector came around before me and snatched up all the reasonably priced ones ;-) but all i've seen is the spensy ones
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didnt think ponies would get hit this hard by the "old=money" scalper crowd but here we are! It's awful in the doll community. People wanting $100 for an incomplete doll that was released in 2014 :huh:
really hoping everything calms down
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In the "sold" area of Ebay, they don't seem to be going at those prices. I think most of the sellers will eventually give it up. Maybe.
If they stay at those prices though, I guess I now have a few hundred dollars worth of ponies... :whistle: :whistle:
Seriously though, I don't think it's cool that people are charging so much for easily had ponies.
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It's really sad. My personal crisis is that I don't live in a country that has its own ebay site so I have to buy everything internationally, and ever since they introduced the "global shipping program", shipping prices and fees have skyrocketed so I have to pay like, $30+ in shipping for even a common dingy pony :sad:
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I think shipping is the worst of it. I know shipping has gone up, but I feel like people have been taking advantage of it to scalp even more out of the sale. I always try to purchase more than one pony from the same seller if possible, to save on shipping, but sometimes the seller will only give the tiniest discount for the multiple ponies, like if it costs $5.50 to ship one pony, they'll take, like, $1 or 50 cents off the shipping of each additional pony just to say they combined the shipping. Seriously! I just shipped 5 or 6 ponies out within my own country for $8.
The cost of ponies has definitely gone up too since I started collecting just pre-pandemic, but I guess I just don't buy stuff if I don't like the price, and hope that others do the same, so that those sellers will give up and prices eventually come down. If people keep buying $400 Mimics, she'll always be $400, and then $500, and so on.
I checked out a new local vintage toy store recently, and chatted with the owner. He had several G1 ponies for sale, mostly commons; Medley, Baby Firefly, etc. priced at $12-15. Then he had a Bright Eyes for $80. He said his knowledge about ponies was not great yet, but he is doing his research by pulling sold prices from online. He's probably pretty accurate, sadly. I popped up some live Bright Eyes auctions, and watched them until they sold; she ranged from $30 to around $75 (I was mad I missed that $30 one, BE is my biggest grail right now!). I guess I'd expect to pay a premium at a little shop like that, but I suppose on Ebay the seller has to give up a hefty chunk of the sale due to fees, plus the buyer is paying exorbitant shipping on top, they aren't making too much. Not that I'm sympathizing with scalpers, but I don't sell ponies on ebay because I feel like for what the seller ends up paying, I would get very little of it. So I guess people jack prices to recoup, I suppose.
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It's true that prices have gone up lately at the lower end whereas I think they have also risen but less so at the steep end. I agree that prices went up during the pandemic, I guess it's a nice hobby to have indoors. S
Professional sellers will always have overheads like a shop or a stall, but we used to live in a kinder world when ordinary people would sell things at 'cost' price at yard sales etc. for cash just because they didn't need them any more. Now we are tied bombarded with 'monetise your time/old stuff/grandma to make a profit for digital platforms and we are limited to electronic transactions so we always have to pay VAT on everything. Makes me sad.
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It's true that prices have gone up lately at the lower end whereas I think they have also risen but less so at the steep end. I agree that prices went up during the pandemic, I guess it's a nice hobby to have indoors. S
Professional sellers will always have overheads like a shop or a stall, but we used to live in a kinder world when ordinary people would sell things at 'cost' price at yard sales etc. for cash just because they didn't need them any more. Now we are tied bombarded with 'monetise your time/old stuff/grandma to make a profit for digital platforms and we are limited to electronic transactions so we always have to pay VAT on everything. Makes me sad.
SO MUCH THIS!
When you go to google a pony for any reason like to find out the year, about half the first Google hits are about 'your old my little pony's could be worth a fortune' which makes everyone with a half chewed old Peachy think they are in the money!
It's so frustrating that there are always for highly priced ponies which are tagged 'RARE' 'NIRVANA' and there's like, ten of the same "rare" pony at any one time :pout:
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Oooh, those articles about "your old [toy] could be worth MILLIONS!!!" drive me insane. They always miss out the fact that markets are unstable/ever-changing, NOT every old toy is inherently valuable.. then you get stuff where one particular version of a thing goes for big money (say... I dunno, Greek Firefly) but the article says "ALL versions ever made of this toy go for $$$$$$!!"... Ugh!
And I agree, Global Shipping is a nightmare. I get that shipping prices HAVE changed over the years (that's a whooole other rant >_<) but GSP ridiculously overcharges, 9 times out of 10. :/
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Oooh, those articles about "your old [toy] could be worth MILLIONS!!!" drive me insane. They always miss out the fact that markets are unstable/ever-changing, NOT every old toy is inherently valuable.. then you get stuff where one particular version of a thing goes for big money (say... I dunno, Greek Firefly) but the article says "ALL versions ever made of this toy go for $$$$$$!!"... Ugh!
And I agree, Global Shipping is a nightmare. I get that shipping prices HAVE changed over the years (that's a whooole other rant >_<) but GSP ridiculously overcharges, 9 times out of 10. :/
I have contacted a seller in the past and managed to get them to change the postage service, but only once when I ordered a lot of ponies from the USA. Ebay make it ever-harder to set up international postage properly without using the Global Shi**ing program.
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IMO the WORST thing about the GSP is the fact it never accounts for combined postage. Say you want three items from a seller & they have ANY other postage & package option. You pay, they pack the stuff, weigh the package at their post office, & refund you the P&P difference.
With GSP: no refund for buying multiples from the same seller, even if they shift one package to you instead of three. Total rip-off
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This is what I have to deal with using an auction for a so-so condition Morning Glory as an example:
Subtotal (1 item) US $13.00
Shipping US $25.16
Import charges US $13.45
Order total US $51.61
It's just... :cry: Do ebay and sellers who don't ship internationally much realize they're losing sales from this? Though I guess the international market is so small for US sellers that maybe they don't even realize.
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It makes a HUGE difference if the seller marks the package as a 'gift'. You can still get bitten by customs fees occasionally, but if you don't then it massively brings down the price of buying from the US.
I get import duties normally, but for ponies I think it's a bit mad. They are treasure to us, but I doubt any customs agents would think so if they opened the packages :lol:
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It's just... :cry: Do ebay and sellers who don't ship internationally much realize they're losing sales from this? Though I guess the international market is so small for US sellers that maybe they don't even realize.
I'm guilty of letting my stuff default to GSP, lol. I think in your case, if a pony is very "common" or otherwise not really known for being reigion-locked, people may not figure that international buyers would be interested. Someone got a G3 from me recently through the GSP (it's on by default), I was surprised they had considering it was just a Rainbow Dash.
It makes a HUGE difference if the seller marks the package as a 'gift'. You can still get bitten by customs fees occasionally, but if you don't then it massively brings down the price of buying from the US.
Unfortunately, that's lying on a federal form. :P I can see a lot of eBay sellers who would not do this.
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I think they're starting to come down again.
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It makes a HUGE difference if the seller marks the package as a 'gift'. You can still get bitten by customs fees occasionally, but if you don't then it massively brings down the price of buying from the US.
Don't you also forfeit buyer/seller protection by doing this?
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According to my country's import regulations though, we don't need to pay a fee to import anything below around $20-30, gift or no gift. The "import charges" are added on by ebay during checkout. I'm not entirely sure what they are for.
Some of my proxy services offer to mark my packages as gifts, but I sometimes have to pay the import fee anyway. :rolleyes:
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It's crazy out there! What is especially annoying is that people are putting really shabby stuff online for insane prices. Like, at least give them a wash if you expect me to pay that much!
I just got a new pony and it was all sticky and looked even worse than the photos. I really don’t get why people can’t wash what their selling. I mean maybe if the hair was a little frizzy or there was a few marks that wouldn’t be a problem. But if it looks and feels gross then you really shouldn’t be selling it for so high or at least clean it if someone is going to buy it.
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It's crazy out there! What is especially annoying is that people are putting really shabby stuff online for insane prices. Like, at least give them a wash if you expect me to pay that much!
I just got a new pony and it was all sticky and looked even worse than the photos. I really don’t get why people can’t wash what their selling. I mean maybe if the hair was a little frizzy or there was a few few marks that wouldn’t be a problem. But if it looks and feels gross then you really shouldn’t be selling it for so high or at least clean it if someone is going to buy it.
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It makes a HUGE difference if the seller marks the package as a 'gift'. You can still get bitten by customs fees occasionally, but if you don't then it massively brings down the price of buying from the US.
Don't you also forfeit buyer/seller protection by doing this?
Happy to be corrected, but I’m not sure that you do. Consumer protection and customs fees are totally distinct areas of law. If you are mis-sold an item or it’s lost in transit, I think the onus is still on the seller to ensure your goods arrive as promised. And as for the insurance of the carrier, I’d like to think that a lost gift would be afforded the same protection as a lost purchase :blush:
But someone else said that it’s technically fraud, and I think they are probably spot on with that so some seller might be reluctant to do it :cry:
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You should see how crazy the goodwill auctions with gen one get, I have walked away from a few. I said NOPE not paying that much forget it.
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It makes a HUGE difference if the seller marks the package as a 'gift'. You can still get bitten by customs fees occasionally, but if you don't then it massively brings down the price of buying from the US.
Don't you also forfeit buyer/seller protection by doing this?
Happy to be corrected, but I’m not sure that you do. Consumer protection and customs fees are totally distinct areas of law. If you are mis-sold an item or it’s lost in transit, I think the onus is still on the seller to ensure your goods arrive as promised. And as for the insurance of the carrier, I’d like to think that a lost gift would be afforded the same protection as a lost purchase :blush:
But someone else said that it’s technically fraud, and I think they are probably spot on with that so some seller might be reluctant to do it :cry:
I can see why sellers would be reluctant if they have to pay everything including shipping back if the item doesn’t show. I would really rather not take the risk.
The cost of shipping going up really makes me cringe. Buying over seas is so crazy expensive these days. When can we start beaming stuff around the world?
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Unfortunately, that's lying on a federal form.
But I like unicorns. Unicorns are good.
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It has definitely got more expensive to buy from Ebay in the UK, partly ridiculous prices on basic ponies and partly that the bidding has been going crazy- with lots of sniping from power sellers. I have had alot more luck on Swedish Tradera site lately - some really lovely sellers and rarer ponies, even with risk of customs charges I've been quite lucky. :) :)
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It makes a HUGE difference if the seller marks the package as a 'gift'. You can still get bitten by customs fees occasionally, but if you don't then it massively brings down the price of buying from the US.
Don't you also forfeit buyer/seller protection by doing this?
Happy to be corrected, but I’m not sure that you do. Consumer protection and customs fees are totally distinct areas of law. If you are mis-sold an item or it’s lost in transit, I think the onus is still on the seller to ensure your goods arrive as promised. And as for the insurance of the carrier, I’d like to think that a lost gift would be afforded the same protection as a lost purchase :blush:
But someone else said that it’s technically fraud, and I think they are probably spot on with that so some seller might be reluctant to do it :cry:
I can see why sellers would be reluctant if they have to pay everything including shipping back if the item doesn’t show. I would really rather not take the risk.
The cost of shipping going up really makes me cringe. Buying over seas is so crazy expensive these days. When can we start beaming stuff around the world?
When they're able to start charging sky high prices for it. :silly:
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I sold a g1 sleeping bag a few days ago ..I just advertise free shipping and pay it out of whatever the auction goes for. Got a box just big enough to squeeze it in, no bigger. The post office lady cringed at the sight saying it was going to be expensive. $17 to ship it within the US. Plus eBay takes their big cut (big when you’re selling MOC anyway). Shipping keeps biting me. It’s not worth selling anything that’ll take a big box/will be heavy.
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I will still sell and ship globally, but I have to let the buyer know all these "hidden" fees. I will ship things as a gift...hey, it is a gift to find someone willing to ship internationally in this day and age! Yes, technically it's fraud...but it's also fraud to charge taxes on used items, that have already been taxed. That is a scam that shouldn't be allowed, so I'm just trying to balance things out a bit.
Don't get me wrong, I'm also not selling thousands of dollars worth of stuff. And the buyer can say no, and prefer to pay the taxes for larger purchases. That is fine, if they are good with it. Being in the community, I've always seen things are being helpful to other collectors, more than trying to buy a summer home. Yes, I sell for a reasonable amount when I have more expensive ponies or items. I'd rather deal with someone here, though, than eBay and have fee on top of fee on top of fee...
Maybe the more we help each other out, the easier it will be to rebuild our little section of the collector world.
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Yes, technically it's fraud...but it's also fraud to charge taxes on used items, that have already been taxed.
Goodness, you are SO right...I wonder how Ebay and its ilk get away with this, when one can sell on craigslist or have a yard sale without any tax dollars being exchanged.
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I will still sell and ship globally, but I have to let the buyer know all these "hidden" fees. I will ship things as a gift...hey, it is a gift to find someone willing to ship internationally in this day and age! Yes, technically it's fraud...but it's also fraud to charge taxes on used items, that have already been taxed. That is a scam that shouldn't be allowed, so I'm just trying to balance things out a bit.
Don't get me wrong, I'm also not selling thousands of dollars worth of stuff. And the buyer can say no, and prefer to pay the taxes for larger purchases. That is fine, if they are good with it. Being in the community, I've always seen things are being helpful to other collectors, more than trying to buy a summer home. Yes, I sell for a reasonable amount when I have more expensive ponies or items. I'd rather deal with someone here, though, than eBay and have fee on top of fee on top of fee...
Maybe the more we help each other out, the easier it will be to rebuild our little section of the collector world.
Oh, you are a saint. I really appreciate it when sellers at least offer to ship internationally. It's true that I'm not willing to pay outrageous shipping and fees for common items, but if a grail item should happen to come up, I would likely want to buy it regardless.
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I will still sell and ship globally, but I have to let the buyer know all these "hidden" fees. I will ship things as a gift...hey, it is a gift to find someone willing to ship internationally in this day and age! Yes, technically it's fraud...but it's also fraud to charge taxes on used items, that have already been taxed. That is a scam that shouldn't be allowed, so I'm just trying to balance things out a bit.
Don't get me wrong, I'm also not selling thousands of dollars worth of stuff. And the buyer can say no, and prefer to pay the taxes for larger purchases. That is fine, if they are good with it. Being in the community, I've always seen things are being helpful to other collectors, more than trying to buy a summer home. Yes, I sell for a reasonable amount when I have more expensive ponies or items. I'd rather deal with someone here, though, than eBay and have fee on top of fee on top of fee...
Maybe the more we help each other out, the easier it will be to rebuild our little section of the collector world.
Oh, you are a saint. I really appreciate it when sellers at least offer to ship internationally. It's true that I'm not willing to pay outrageous shipping and fees for common items, but if a grail item should happen to come up, I would likely want to buy it regardless.
THIS
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I will still sell and ship globally, but I have to let the buyer know all these "hidden" fees. I will ship things as a gift...hey, it is a gift to find someone willing to ship internationally in this day and age! Yes, technically it's fraud...but it's also fraud to charge taxes on used items, that have already been taxed. That is a scam that shouldn't be allowed, so I'm just trying to balance things out a bit.
Don't get me wrong, I'm also not selling thousands of dollars worth of stuff. And the buyer can say no, and prefer to pay the taxes for larger purchases. That is fine, if they are good with it. Being in the community, I've always seen things are being helpful to other collectors, more than trying to buy a summer home. Yes, I sell for a reasonable amount when I have more expensive ponies or items. I'd rather deal with someone here, though, than eBay and have fee on top of fee on top of fee...
Maybe the more we help each other out, the easier it will be to rebuild our little section of the collector world.
Oh, you are a saint. I really appreciate it when sellers at least offer to ship internationally. It's true that I'm not willing to pay outrageous shipping and fees for common items, but if a grail item should happen to come up, I would likely want to buy it regardless.
Sometimes I have no choice but to beg someone to ship internationally because Australia seems to have less old ponies (maybe I'm looking in the wrong places??) and some of the og g1 sparkle ponies have gone from $20-30 here to almost $100, is that normal? Haha I've been out of the scene for a while since I fell pregnant and now I'm gobsmacked.