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Title: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: Shiromisa on January 24, 2014, 09:37:15 AM
So, my dad is selling a car, and a potential buyer says the only way he can pay is with paypal. I'm concerned about the fees, since it's a big ticket purchase they'll be substantial. I'm also slightly worried the buyer will try to dispute the charge, since we're obviously not shipping the car, so we won't have a tracking number to give paypal. Thoughts?
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: UrocyonFox on January 24, 2014, 09:41:32 AM
Is there a reason he can only do paypal?
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Post by: bluerose9978 on January 24, 2014, 09:52:58 AM
I'm guessing he would pay via PayPal so he can use a credit card. I would refuse and say cash only.
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Post by: ponylady on January 24, 2014, 10:41:26 AM
I'm guessing he would pay via PayPal so he can use a credit card. I would refuse and say cash only.
I am with you, cash only. The fee's will be outrageous and it would just make me nervous to no end.  :yikes:
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on January 25, 2014, 08:43:02 AM
Cash or money order/bank draft only!  No Paypal, no credit, no personal cheques!  Get the bank involved for everyone's safety.  Also make sure they meet up at a bank or a court office so the sale can be notarized!

Not to mention, be very safe!  A lot of violent crimes been in the news more and more often while people tried to sell their used vehicles!  Have a friend come along with him, or observe from a safe distance. 

EDIT:  Also I think that the Paypal seller protection ONLY comes into play with shipping an item.  Pick up in person does NOT qualify!  He can file a claim and you have no recourse unless you have a notarized bill of sale - but can you prove the buyer is in possession of the item? 
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: June on January 25, 2014, 09:19:17 AM
Sounds kinda suspicious to me. Did he give any reason?
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: Shiromisa on January 25, 2014, 12:18:47 PM
Sounds kinda suspicious to me. Did he give any reason?
I got more details from my brother. So, it looks like the guy is deployed overseas, and so Paypal is the only way he can pay. (Why he needs a car when he's going to be in a different country for a long time is beyond me--but anyway) The guy is willing to pay extra to cover the fees, but I'm still suspicious based on the fact that he could claim the money back, and we'd have no recourse. He's also been pressuring my brother for a quick answer--which also sounds like scammer behavior to me.

The only way I can think of that everyone would be safe would be if he sent the money as a gift.
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: June on January 25, 2014, 01:05:38 PM
From that, he doesn't seem trustworthy. Is he the only potential buyer?
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Post by: bluerose9978 on January 25, 2014, 01:32:01 PM
Definitely sounds like a scam to me. If he's not available to complete the transaction in person I would pass.

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Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: StarFaerie on January 25, 2014, 04:46:36 PM
It's a known scam

http://www.scamnet.wa.gov.au/scamnet/Types_Of_Scams-Buying_selling_and_online_sales_scams-Online_car_sales_scam_buyer.htm
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Sending-and-receiving-money/Car-Purchase-Scam/td-p/682717?profile.language=en-gb
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: Shiromisa on January 25, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
It's a known scam

http://www.scamnet.wa.gov.au/scamnet/Types_Of_Scams-Buying_selling_and_online_sales_scams-Online_car_sales_scam_buyer.htm
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Sending-and-receiving-money/Car-Purchase-Scam/td-p/682717?profile.language=en-gb
Oop, thank you for that! I'll have my brother tell him no deal.
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: Vertefae on January 25, 2014, 10:22:22 PM
The only way I would agree with that, is if they are military. Sometimes we do look for cars while deployed :)
Title: Re: (Non-pony) Paypal advice?
Post by: Stormness_1 on January 25, 2014, 11:33:54 PM
I'd personally only take the cash in person (or face a serious risk of being scammed). They have internet access, tell them to transfer the funds to a trusted relative/friend and have them do COD. Otherwise tell them you WON'T be garaging a car for god knows how long because they can't pick-up, and if the car is still for sale when they return, they are more than welcome to buy it for the negotiated price, COD as is your prerogative when dealing with vehicles on any site that I'm aware of.
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