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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Mana Minori on July 14, 2018, 01:06:04 AM
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Hasbro dun goofed, imo, releasing a SDCC exclusive pack of ponies for the 35th anniversary, but putting the same faces of g4 toys in there in 80's clothing- Twilight, Dash, and Pinks. I made a comment on the boards of Equestria Daily, expressing my confusion and disappointment about this and the fact that they weren't Kanto....I mean, g1 re-releases, but some dingus replied back that "oh, weren't there g1 releases already?" and honestly, this made me a little sour. Bruh, really? We got 6 limited edition ponies from g1. How many rehashed g4 mane 6 do we get, again?
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Is it wrong of me to expect more g1 throwbacks from Hasbro in their 35th anniversary? Is Hasbro failing to capitalize on nostalgia for the older MLP fans by not releasing more than what they have?
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Well, Hasbro isn't handling the re-releases. It's Basic Fun. It seems like there's a lot of confusion going on with whether we will actually get the Rainbow Ponies atm.
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If the first 1-2 sets sell well enough we will see more. Hasbro/Basic Fun are businesses that want to make money.
I'd also like to add -- I would rather the retro ponies continue be released in a mass market store not limited edition releases from a convention.
The sucky part of the retro ponies is that we might only see the first few years. I don't even LIKE the ponies from the first few years, so I can't even support the effort. And I think that is one of the problems Hasbro has with releasing retro ponies -- is there are so many -- and we (collectors) all like different things.
But the retro releases are also aimed at mom's who have nostalgia of "I had this toy as a kid, I'll give it to my kid". Sooo pfft. Yeah, I'll probably never see a sparkle pony or SHS.
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I'd also like to add -- I would rather the retro ponies continue be released in a mass market store not limited edition releases from a convention.
On the one hand yeah, on the other hand I'd like to have both. :P
Personally I would be happy if they used G4 molds with G1 characters. Like if they'd done a pack with G4 style Firefly, Moondancer, and Bow Tie or whoever. But if wishes were horses . . . (HO HO HO see what I did there?)
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I'd also like to add -- I would rather the retro ponies continue be released in a mass market store not limited edition releases from a convention.
On the one hand yeah, on the other hand I'd like to have both. :P
Personally I would be happy if they used G4 molds with G1 characters. Like if they'd done a pack with G4 style Firefly, Moondancer, and Bow Tie or whoever. But if wishes were horses . . . (HO HO HO see what I did there?)
Well, I more so was thinking one or the other. Let's say they released a 3 pack SDCC sea ponies Seawinkle, Wavedancer, and Sealight... then NEVER put them in the stores. I'd find that irritating.
If they did BOTH, well, that'd be a different story. But as someone else mentioned basic fun is releasing them with a license so that technically would never happen *_*
:) I also think G4 as G1 would of been super cute -- but ah well. Like a 7 pack of who the G4s were based on (6 ponies and 1 spike!)
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They could have turned a g1 pony into a g4 or vice versa, or used side characters, or at least not used the most heavily marketed trio. Shoulda coulda woulda, but I'm glad it wasn't a g1 pony.
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The problem I see with the 35th anniversary releases is that they already released these exact same ponies 10 years ago for the 25th anniversary. They really should have picked something different to release. Had they gone with the Big Brother ponies, I can guarantee that they would be flying off the shelves, especially since customizers like myself would stock up for future projects so we wouldn't have to wait for destroyed 80s boys. They could have released baby ponies. Those would sell well, too, especially if they came with accessories that always got lost when we were kids. I understand not going with something that had too complex of a gimmick because they would likely be more expensive to produce but to rely on the exact same 6 ponies each and every time isn't going to work forever. They should have figured this out with the lack of interest in the current mane 6 lineup.
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We have been asking Bridge Direct and Basic Fun for more. There was a concerted effort not too long ago asking for an unreleased set.
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The problem I see with the 35th anniversary releases is that they already released these exact same ponies 10 years ago for the 25th anniversary. They really should have picked something different to release.
I don't think many people are saying "Oh these ponies were released for 25th anniversary, I don't want to pick them up again". IIRC, most everyone complained about the quality of the 25th anniversary ones and they bombed. Plus, 10 years ago is a really long time ago.
I personally think the rainbow ponies are the most iconic and safest to release. They scream "My Little Pony" with their pastel bodies and rainbow hair and that's perfect for the general public.
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I agree, the Rainbow ponies are a great choice for a rerelease. (And ten years ago is indeed a really long time ago . . . I don't really get the "you made it ten years ago, don't make it again" argument. I mean, maybe they shouldn't remake any G1s in that case since they were made 'only' 20 or 30 years ago, LOL.)
Ohhh, sea ponies . . . I'd love to see the adult G1 sea ponies in the G4 sea pony / merpony molds. Not only would that be a cool homage, but also there aren't that many G4 adult sea ponies and they could always use more.
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There is supposed to be more. If you read along in the other 35thAnn thread, the Rainbow ponies and the very first playset, Peachy Parlor (with presumed Peachy pony) were scheduled to be released. But the pre-orders on Amazon have since been cancelled. :( Basic Fun/Bridge Direct is presumably looking to solidify vendor contracts so that they can guarantee production of these ponies. But all the new tariffs have made it more difficult to turn a profit in the current layout of Hasbro!
So we don't know what we don't know right now. :(
I guess if you really are feeling the need for "new" G1 then you can totally support the HQGC Project. I would love to buy some but right now the Canadian exchange and the above new tariffs have made these cuties presently out of my budget. :)
we are all UNITED in wanting ALLLLL the ponies! plus more. hehehe
I think the original first few years were a really good bet for re-release. i do think they should listen to feedback and produce either the Celestial ponies or some of the babies IF they were to do more. But I am not sure how to get millions of $$$$$ out of the toyline which is typically the threshold of success in the industry. It has to be something we buy multiples of, and that our neighbors buy, and that becomes a household item... I don't know if I want Echo or Alexa determining if I need a new pony... LOL
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There is supposed to be more. If you read along in the other 35thAnn thread, the Rainbow ponies and the very first playset, Peachy Parlor (with presumed Peachy pony) were scheduled to be released. But the pre-orders on Amazon have since been cancelled. :( Basic Fun/Bridge Direct is presumably looking to solidify vendor contracts so that they can guarantee production of these ponies. But all the new tariffs have made it more difficult to turn a profit in the current layout of Hasbro!
:( Oh no, I didn't know that the pre-orders had been canceled. That's not the greatest sign.
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There is supposed to be more. If you read along in the other 35thAnn thread, the Rainbow ponies and the very first playset, Peachy Parlor (with presumed Peachy pony) were scheduled to be released. But the pre-orders on Amazon have since been cancelled. :( Basic Fun/Bridge Direct is presumably looking to solidify vendor contracts so that they can guarantee production of these ponies. But all the new tariffs have made it more difficult to turn a profit in the current layout of Hasbro!
:( Oh no, I didn't know that the pre-orders had been canceled. That's not the greatest sign.
yeah. this is from:
http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,391967.120.html
And, here we go:
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Presently, the Amazon links to some of these products have gone dead/defunct. Soooooooooo we can only speculate, but then again, there are only so many things that CAN happen in the toy industry that cause this. ;)
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I feel like they will be released. They already have the ponies in production (in Europe) so it's not like they're in the nebulous prototype stage. As long as they can get a distributor in the US, they are set. They seem to be selling well in Target (at least in my area), which is a good sign.
My guess is that they were worried about not being able to fulfill pre-orders in a timely manner (i.e. right as the release date hit) and wanted to have the ponies in hand. From what I've heard, people who did manage to pre-order have not had their orders cancelled.
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People in the US have had preorders for Rainbow Ponies cancelled as far as I am aware but I have not heard if anyone in the UK had their rainbow orders cancelled or not? We can also buy Rainbows here in the UK from Amazon now but the price is a little higher than the original projected retail. It unsurprisingly went up £3 on most of them the night the tariffs between the US and EU began, but they're in production and still available in Europe. So I would be surprised if they didn't get to the projected countries - but I don't know about the US. My suspicion is that they will still happen, but the cancelling and such means they can recalculate prices to add the tariff onto the buyer's cost...and so not make a loss. Cynical Taffeta is cynical.
The Collector Pony preorder for the UK disappeared then came back...before it was only for Cotton Candy. Now there are listings fo 4/6 but no Bluebelle or Butterscotch. So weird. And the date got pushed back again to August.
I am most worried about the planned 3rd set which are ponies the UK NEVER had at all :( I will be gutted if they get cancelled because of all this.
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Oh shoot, I hadn't heard about pre-orders being cancelled. I thought it was just closed to new pre-orders and the pages being missing. Can someone who pre-ordered confirm one way or another?
I feel you . . . The third set (early unicorns and pegasi) include some of my absolute favorite ponies, including my very first pony Moondancer. Plus it's hard to find Moondancer and Glory without yellowing plastic and (in Moondancer's case) rubbed symbols. Her silver moon is always the first to go!!
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I put in a pre-order for all the single listing rainbow ponies and it hasn't been cancelled. I sure hope nothing goes wrong... They are supposed to be a gift for my SO.
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Good to hear that some orders are still going through, though the direct sources seem a little vague on supply. :/
What we do know is that so far the existing 35thAnn ponies have been spotted at Target in the US - a company that does NOT have international presence. And Amazon has split up its international divisions so they aren't able to universally supply us with the ponies, either. *sigh*
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On one hand, I expect given what we've seen other companies do for their anivsarry characters.
On the other, I'm pessimistic by nature and am going to say no. That what we have or about to get in terms of the rainbow ponies is it. Nice throwback but sales didn't bear out and the line is going to end.
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I'd love to see more ponies for the 35th anniversary. :) :lovey: I ended up buying two sets of the Collector Ponies so I can keep one set in the box and have one set to open. :) I missed the 25th anniversary collector sets so I don't mind that Basic Fun started with these. I'm hoping the US sees the Rainbow ponies and also the unicorns and pegasus sets. :)
I'd love to see baby ponies and other ponies as well. Can we hope for a retro Dream Castle, flutter and sea ponies?
Ponyfan
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On one hand, I expect given what we've seen other companies do for their anivsarry characters.
On the other, I'm pessimistic by nature and am going to say no. That what we have or about to get in terms of the rainbow ponies is it. Nice throwback but sales didn't bear out and the line is going to end.
It's difficult for sales not to bear out when the availability is being stamped on. We're not dealing with not good enough sales.We're dealing with tariffs and trade wars. Unfortunately that's something consumers cannot really do much about.
@LM - someone posted a screen grab image earlier from Flutterscotch that stated the preorder for rainbows had been cancelled. BUT I believe that was the set, not the individuals?
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My preorder for grotty looking Starshine from AmazonUK is still active. :P It's set for 15 August release at present (one day after the collectors ponies) but the product link is still dead.
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My preorder for grotty looking Starshine from AmazonUK is still active. :P It's set for 15 August release at present (one day after the collectors ponies) but the product link is still dead.
Keep us updated! :) I was reassured by the return of the collector ponies, albeit without Butterscotch and Bluebelle. Butterscotch had an actual proper notable release here so it's weird to have Minty and not Butterscotch..? Of the retros, Snuzzle and Butterscotch are IMO the nicest. It will be a shame if the UK misses out on Butterscotch...
Hopefully the other 2 will turn up but 4 is better than none I guess...?
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Is it just the set that has been canceled so far? Because a big pack like that seems like something that would be a store exclusive.
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Is it just the set that has been canceled so far? Because a big pack like that seems like something that would be a store exclusive.
That is also a good point. I forgot how obsessive the US market is with store exclusives...and Target seems like a good bet for that if it's the case.
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Oh shoot, I hadn't heard about pre-orders being cancelled. I thought it was just closed to new pre-orders and the pages being missing. Can someone who pre-ordered confirm one way or another?
I feel you . . . The third set (early unicorns and pegasi) include some of my absolute favorite ponies, including my very first pony Moondancer. Plus it's hard to find Moondancer and Glory without yellowing plastic and (in Moondancer's case) rubbed symbols. Her silver moon is always the first to go!!
Funny enough, I got a lot recently and Moondancer was in the BEST condition out of all the g1s in the lot. Her symbols are great, while one BBE had rusty eyes and Butterscotch had a dozen age spots, for example.
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All the US pony links via Amazon are broken (page does not exist).
The big gift pack/combo has been cancelled. Just checked my Amazon order, as of today: all the single rainbow ponies pre-order show release date: aug 15, 2018 and the pony parlor w/ peachy sept 30, 2018. Only the link provided through order history is still allowing you to place another pre-order for the 5 single ponies and pony parlor (total $75).
Ack! Im so excited for the Rainbow ponies, I hope it doesnt get cancelled >_<
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All the US pony links via Amazon are broken (page does not exist).
The big gift pack/combo has been cancelled. Just checked my Amazon order, as of today: all the single rainbow ponies pre-order show release date: aug 15, 2018 and the pony parlor w/ peachy sept 30, 2018. Only the link provided through order history is still allowing you to place another pre-order for the 5 single ponies and pony parlor (total $75).
Ack! Im so excited for the Rainbow ponies, I hope it doesnt get cancelled >_<
I gotta wonder if this bodes poorly for us ever expecting the prototype Fancy Swirl ponies to be released.
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All the US pony links via Amazon are broken (page does not exist).
The big gift pack/combo has been cancelled. Just checked my Amazon order, as of today: all the single rainbow ponies pre-order show release date: aug 15, 2018 and the pony parlor w/ peachy sept 30, 2018. Only the link provided through order history is still allowing you to place another pre-order for the 5 single ponies and pony parlor (total $75).
Ack! Im so excited for the Rainbow ponies, I hope it doesnt get cancelled >_<
I gotta wonder if this bodes poorly for us ever expecting the prototype Fancy Swirl ponies to be released.
I would say, yes, at this stage.
We need to watch with hope but mostly cautious hope right now...but I think if we're doubtful about what is happening with the Rainbow Ponies which are already in production - anything else is at risk, and especially something they have to make from scratch.
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
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Too funny DreamvalleyMLP :P Thanks for making me smile today
Well, i posted this in the main thread, but incase some of you arent following the main thread. The US preorders via Amazon dates have changed as of today.
single rainbow ponies - 8/17
pony parlor 10/3
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
Eh.
That's really the fault of the buyers.
If stores don't want to carry the item, it's really not the fault of the manufacturer company.
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As someone that missed pre-orders, I just want to know if I have a decent chance of obtaining these ponies (and not pay crazy eBay prices)
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As I mentioned in the other topic. I ordered Moonstone on the German Amazon 2 days ago. The other 5 are also in stock so some people might be able to get them from there. :)
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As I mentioned in the other topic. I ordered Moonstone on the German Amazon 2 days ago. The other 5 are also in stock so some people might be able to get them from there. :)
Same on UK. Just more expensive that way. Dunno if it is the case in Germany but tge UK ones are dispatched by Amazon but coming from the french supplier so cost £3ish more...?
Edit to add- I just checked and it is the same on German Amazon as the UK.
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
Eh.
That's really the fault of the buyers.
If stores don't want to carry the item, it's really not the fault of the manufacturer.
Stores have to be given the chance to carry them before they can decide not to carry them. And that's BF's responsability, among other things like accurately answering customer questions, marketing, etc. How many different answers have been given by Basic Fun (through facebook alone) about the availibility? BTW, Basic Fun is not just the manufacturer (if at all - technically, some Chinese factory is probably the manufacturer, though I get what you mean), they are the licensee. If their product bombs before it even got a chance because no one can buy them easily, it's because they didn't plan it well enough.
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
Eh.
That's really the fault of the buyers.
If stores don't want to carry the item, it's really not the fault of the manufacturer.
Stores have to be given the chance to carry them before they can decide not to carry them. And that's BF's responsability, among other things like accurately answering customer questions, marketing, etc. How many different answers have been given by Basic Fun (through facebook alone) about the availibility? BTW, Basic Fun is not just the manufacturer (if at all - technically, some Chinese factory is probably the manufacturer, though I get what you mean), they are the licensee. If their product bombs before it even got a chance because no one can buy them easily, it's because they didn't plan it well enough.
I don't think you understood what I meant. The buyer means the person who buys for the store. Not the customer of the store.
Stores have more control of a product then everyone seems to realize.
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My preorder for grotty looking Starshine from AmazonUK is still active. :P It's set for 15 August release at present (one day after the collectors ponies) but the product link is still dead.
What's grotty mean?
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
Eh.
That's really the fault of the buyers.
If stores don't want to carry the item, it's really not the fault of the manufacturer.
Stores have to be given the chance to carry them before they can decide not to carry them. And that's BF's responsability, among other things like accurately answering customer questions, marketing, etc. How many different answers have been given by Basic Fun (through facebook alone) about the availibility? BTW, Basic Fun is not just the manufacturer (if at all - technically, some Chinese factory is probably the manufacturer, though I get what you mean), they are the licensee. If their product bombs before it even got a chance because no one can buy them easily, it's because they didn't plan it well enough.
I don't think you understood what I meant. The buyer means the person who buys for the store. Not the customer of the store.
Stores have more control of a product then everyone seems to realize.
I understood quite fine.
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
Eh.
That's really the fault of the buyers.
If stores don't want to carry the item, it's really not the fault of the manufacturer.
Stores have to be given the chance to carry them before they can decide not to carry them. And that's BF's responsability, among other things like accurately answering customer questions, marketing, etc. How many different answers have been given by Basic Fun (through facebook alone) about the availibility? BTW, Basic Fun is not just the manufacturer (if at all - technically, some Chinese factory is probably the manufacturer, though I get what you mean), they are the licensee. If their product bombs before it even got a chance because no one can buy them easily, it's because they didn't plan it well enough.
I don't think you understood what I meant. The buyer means the person who buys for the store. Not the customer of the store.
Stores have more control of a product then everyone seems to realize.
I understood quite fine.
You don't seem to because you went into marketing and blah blah.. and customers asking about availability on facebook. (?) Which has nothing to do about a buyer.
A perfectly good product can be pitched to a store -- and they can yay and nay it so quickly. It literally has to do with the buyers taste.
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At next toy fair, if they dare to claim that the line was cancelled because it didn't sell well enough, someone should smack them over the head with all of their misinformation, cancelled orders and messy distribution.
Eh.
That's really the fault of the buyers.
If stores don't want to carry the item, it's really not the fault of the manufacturer.
Stores have to be given the chance to carry them before they can decide not to carry them. And that's BF's responsability, among other things like accurately answering customer questions, marketing, etc. How many different answers have been given by Basic Fun (through facebook alone) about the availibility? BTW, Basic Fun is not just the manufacturer (if at all - technically, some Chinese factory is probably the manufacturer, though I get what you mean), they are the licensee. If their product bombs before it even got a chance because no one can buy them easily, it's because they didn't plan it well enough.
No company is going to refuse to put products in stores if they can. But things out of their control can complicate matters. Maybe the factory is demanding more money and that's difficult for Basic Fun to bear without raising their prices. Meanwhile retailers want to keep their costs down so they can turn a profit and so they are resisting any price increases. A toy company can get caught in the middle like this very easily.
The lack of customer service is whole other matter. If there's issues be transparent about it.
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My preorder for grotty looking Starshine from AmazonUK is still active. :P It's set for 15 August release at present (one day after the collectors ponies) but the product link is still dead.
What's grotty mean?
In UK slang grotty means not very good, a bit dirty/unkempt etc. Another word similar is 'manky'. Don't know the exact equivalent in other countries (but would be interested to learn)
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My preorder for grotty looking Starshine from AmazonUK is still active. :P It's set for 15 August release at present (one day after the collectors ponies) but the product link is still dead.
What's grotty mean?
In UK slang grotty means not very good, a bit dirty/unkempt etc. Another word similar is 'manky'. Don't know the exact equivalent in other countries (but would be interested to learn)
Thank you. :)
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I'd also like to add -- I would rather the retro ponies continue be released in a mass market store not limited edition releases from a convention.
On the one hand yeah, on the other hand I'd like to have both. :P
Personally I would be happy if they used G4 molds with G1 characters. Like if they'd done a pack with G4 style Firefly, Moondancer, and Bow Tie or whoever. But if wishes were horses . . . (HO HO HO see what I did there?)
I would sell my left kidney for this.
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My preorder for grotty looking Starshine from AmazonUK is still active. :P It's set for 15 August release at present (one day after the collectors ponies) but the product link is still dead.
What's grotty mean?
In UK slang grotty means not very good, a bit dirty/unkempt etc. Another word similar is 'manky'. Don't know the exact equivalent in other countries (but would be interested to learn)
Thank you. :)
Sorry Leaveawhisper didn't mean to be incomprehensible and thank you Poserbeachball for translating me. :p
Icky might be another way of describing it. And I adore manky (the word not the state) haven't used it in ages.
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My preorder for grotty looking Starshine from AmazonUK is still active. :P It's set for 15 August release at present (one day after the collectors ponies) but the product link is still dead.
What's grotty mean?
In UK slang grotty means not very good, a bit dirty/unkempt etc. Another word similar is 'manky'. Don't know the exact equivalent in other countries (but would be interested to learn)
Thank you. :)
Sorry Leaveawhisper didn't mean to be incomprehensible and thank you Poserbeachball for translating me. :p
Icky might be another way of describing it. And I adore manky (the word not the state) haven't used it in ages.
You weren't being incomprehensible. I learned a new word today. :)
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I'm so used to seeing manky written as Mankey, a monkey Pokémon.
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Grotty and manky are the opposite of treat.
"That looks a treat" = That is beautiful!
"What a treat!" = OOOOOOOOOOOOOO I like it
"I found a grotty MLP with utterly manky hair in our new garden" = OMG this pony has been covered in stains and garden slime and her hair is all rusty-crusty from all the water damage from being left outside
ahhhhhhhhh UK slang is awesome.
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There's something not quite right about that use of treat...
I mean we do use it - I would say "that pony cleaned up a treat" or maybe "that meal went down a treat"...but while I guess it's correct, I don't often hear people say "looks a treat" in that way.
Maybe it's regional? Anyone else use that phrase?
In pony terms I'd say the opposite of grotty is probably minty. :)
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Yeah I really think it's regional how one uses it. Like all things British, right? ;)
We've been watching a LOT of UK Netflix recently :D
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Yeah I really think it's regional how one uses it. Like all things British, right? ;)
We've been watching a LOT of UK Netflix recently :D
Maybe it's also generational. I don't know. It sounds a bit fuddy duddy to me to use it that way. Maybe it's just me being weird. Don't mind me :) As you were :D
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I wish they would release some baby ponies, or even better a combo-> pony with baby pony :thumb:
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I wish they would release some baby ponies, or even better a combo-> pony with baby pony :thumb:
Something like a Bow Tie, Baby Bow Tie & Stroller set?