Welcome to the MLP Arena!
Site Announcements Arena Tutorials Sigs & Site Support Introductions Pony Corral Swap Talk! Pony Fairs! MLP Nirvana Nirvana Sales Pony Brag Arena Off Topic Dollhouse Toy Box & Games Cupboard Customs Custom Sales Arts & Crafts Corral Adoptables For Sale - For Auction For Trade Wanted Trader & Classifieds Support What's Your Problem Private Messages Contact Us!
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Quote from: Taffeta on March 29, 2021, 12:17:27 PMIf they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.I hope that made sense.It did make sense. I was talking about stuff like, when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull.
If they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.I hope that made sense.
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on March 29, 2021, 12:21:20 PMQuote from: Taffeta on March 29, 2021, 12:17:27 PMIf they are bronies who insist on using fan names not Hasbro names for certain ponies have absolutely no right to tell anyone else what to call their ponies. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the brony names or fan names for any ponies that Hasbro released under different names - until you start telling someone else in the same breath they're 'not allowed' to rename a pony because it's 'not canon'.I don't write pony stories any more, haven't for years, but I feel like AU and so on...hrm. For me AU is a long way from the original storyline. Like when you take characters and put them into an entirely different universe. I know with one ff series I wrote a long time ago, it was a series with multiple continuities...so I took one as the basis and inserted bits from all of the others into the stories to create one big canon universe. That was technically 'AU' because it straddled canons - just like I guess crossing G1/G4 would be considered AU.But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.I hope that made sense.It did make sense. I was talking about stuff like, when they argue about Tales being G2 when its G1. Or when they say that FIM is the first girl show to have adventure, which is obviously bull. Well that's what the original creator of FIM had said and since most bronies didn't have first hand knowledge they took her at her word. And at the time children's TV had mostly deteriorated thanks to the Children's Television Act requiring networks to air a certain amount of "educational" television and for some reason (sexism yay) it was often "girl's" cartoons that were used to fill that niche. Since after all stereotypically girls are supposed to be all about being social and teaching social values such as friendship is totally educational. It's also why early FIM had those shoehorned in "Friendship Lessons".
*watches the G1 movie* *brony voice* Huh? Where's Firefly and Twilight and Sparkler and Applejack? I thought they were the main characters of G1?
What I really don’t understand is that there are ones out there who hate women but love a show that empowers girls that’s made by a woman?
But I can understand why people don't want to use those terms with MLP, because you know, MLP has never had 'canon' in the same way as you expect a book or film or tv series to have. It's a new concept in G4 that never existed prior to that. So I can understand why people use those same terms - but also why some people feel they shouldn't have to, because MLP has always been a lot more liberal.
Aw, how I miss it, too But it is because your own version is "play", and we cannot "play", fanfic is SERIOUS and ACTUAL WRITING *pouts*I renamed half of my g4, I want to not have to explain :'(
Probably also the reason why people can no longer even type two words into google to find out information on something because it's 'too much effort' to leave their social media feeds and memes for more than ten seconds at a time.
Yesss this is a great way of explaining it!! this is EXACTLY what I was trying to get across, thank you
Quote from: Carrehz on March 25, 2021, 01:31:03 PMWhat I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.Aw, how I miss it, too But it is because your own version is "play", and we cannot "play", fanfic is SERIOUS and ACTUAL WRITING *pouts*I renamed half of my g4, I want to not have to explain :'(
What I miss is people being... allowed? to make up their OWN personalities for ponies. Like, it used to be that if you wanted to write a story where maybe one pony uses her cartoon personality, but another is more based on her backcard, or UK comic, or whatever, or just made up from wholecloth... no one would bat an eye. But nowadays, especially with G4/FiM, it's all "alternate universe" this and "headcanon" that, you know? I dunno if this makes sense, or if I'm wording it right, but I miss when it was just an understood thing, that everyone had their own idea/version of Ponyland.