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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: Heelys on July 05, 2020, 05:06:50 PM
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Who would it be and why? Maybe you’re attached to the name you gave them as a kid before you knew their packaged name, maybe you think the family ponies need some individuality, or maybe the original doesn’t sit with you. Regardless, share what name you would change if you could, and what name you would go with!
I’ll get the touchy one out of the way; Gypsy is a pretty name if you don’t know much about the cultural context, but I’d maybe go with Bangles, Jangles, or just Tamborine. Heh, maybe Tamberine, as a mix of the instrument with Tangerine for her color.
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Pink Dreams-Someone called her Catnap and I agree that would be a better name.
Blushie-Shoulda just called her Bouquet and been done with it. I love her to bits, but her name is dumb.
Brights Brightly-Its such a stupid name. Bright Heart or Bright Cloud or Bright Day woulda been better.
I'd switch the Tropical Pony names around:
Pina Colada shoulda been Hula Hula
Tootie Tails shoulda been Pina Colada
Hula Hula shoulda been Sea Breeze
Sea Breeze shoulda had a different name.
Likewise with that one set of SHS:
Eve is a pretty name but for a night pony. Delphine would have been a nice name.
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I like your ideas LaW!
I think the only one I'd change/actively call a different name is Baby Paws. I call him Baby Scottie.
And I suppose I like to switch twins Doodles & Noodles' names around- I call the blue one Doodles, & pink one Noodles.
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Pina Colada is Hula Hula, LAW *innocent smile*
Catnap for PD is also a cute one. I always thought Wind Song was cuter than Wing Song too.
But aside consigning most of the US alternate/repeat names to oblivion, most of them I'd just leave as they are.
I don't have a problem with Gypsy's name, because I feel like her comic portrayal evidences it as a clunky attempt at eighties inclusivity, and not a slur. Although it may also be because she was named here and the word gypsy (at least here) also has the general meaning of 'free-spirited'.
...On that note though I expect Wigwam will come up, as he's more contentious.
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G1 Woosie. Her name always makes me picture a pony that's had too much to drink. :drunk:
The US names for Sticky/Tuggles and Sniffles/Toddles. The UK names are fine but the US ones make it sound like the ponies are sick.
G1 glittery Sweetheart Sisters Sunblossom and Twinkler's name should be switched.
I would also change Tootie Tails name.
Ponyfan
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I'm not good at picking out names so feel free to offer alternatives.
G1: Skippity-Doo. How about just Skipper?
G3: Tink-a-tink-a-too. How about Indigo Belle?
I also second the suggestions regarding Brights Brightly and Tootie Tails.
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Pina Colada is Hula Hula, LAW *innocent smile*
Catnap for PD is also a cute one. I always thought Wind Song was cuter than Wing Song too.
But aside consigning most of the US alternate/repeat names to oblivion, most of them I'd just leave as they are.
I don't have a problem with Gypsy's name, because I feel like her comic portrayal evidences it as a clunky attempt at eighties inclusivity, and not a slur. Although it may also be because she was named here and the word gypsy (at least here) also has the general meaning of 'free-spirited'.
...On that note though I expect Wigwam will come up, as he's more contentious.
At least they did the Tropical Set better over there.
Post Merge: July 05, 2020, 10:06:56 PM
G1 Woosie. Her name always makes me picture a pony that's had too much to drink. :drunk:
The US names for Sticky/Tuggles and Sniffles/Toddles. The UK names are fine but the US ones make it sound like the ponies are sick.
G1 glittery Sweetheart Sisters Sunblossom and Twinkler's name should be switched.
I would also change Tootie Tails name.
Ponyfan
I wonder if she's drinking buddies with Tipsy Tulip? :beerchug:
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Floater
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G1 glittery Sweetheart Sisters Sunblossom and Twinkler's name should be switched.
This so much! I swear that their names were switched.
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Ah yeah, the Glittery SHS >< What was going on there, Hasbro...
It's worse in the UK since we call Twinkler Moonshimmer. There isn't even a moon pony to put that name on. Sigh.
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I hate it when ponies within a generation have duplicate names! The UK had the right idea by giving some of them original names, so I'd want those to be used worldwide in those cases.
Other names that would warrant changing:
Sundazzle and Princess Sunbeam
SS Twilight-Candlelight would be a pretty name
TAF Yum Yum
Tropical and Baby Seabreeze
Prom Queen Cha Cha
DNW Cuddles and Snookums
SHS Twinkler
MGR Sparkler
Winger Sky Dancer
Baby Sweet Stuff
TAF Fifi and Buttons
Any baby sea pony that looks nothing like the adult they share a name with
Although TE Sky Rocket was the original, I think the name works better with the Sparkle version, so I'd change her name.
Unrelated, but
I get Brilliant Blossoms and Brilliant Bloom mixed up all the time. One of them needs a more unique (and less long) name
Also 1987 Hasbro, let's go back to the drawing board with every year 6 newborn twins (except for Sandcastle and Shovels. Those are fine). You can do better than "Sticky and Sniffles" or "Puddles and Peeks".
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A certain wall-eyed pegasus. Or possibly a certain unfortunately-named fashion pony.
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I hate it when ponies within a generation have duplicate names! The UK had the right idea by giving some of them original names, so I'd want those to be used worldwide in those cases.
*applauds*
(entirely no bias here) xD.
Tropical "Sea Breeze" also already has a Uk alternative name. We called her Surfing Days. The unicorn here is Sailaway, the earth with the palm trees is (more logically) Hula Hula and the yellow one is Summer Heatwave.
The UK had names for those two DnW babies too. The unicorn is Baby Wellyboot and the other is Baby Rainflower.
SHS Twinkler is Moonshimmer in the UK.
We did have the repeat names here though for some, like Sky Rocket, Skydancer. We didn't get TAF Buttons or SS Fifi, and "Sweet Stuff" is Sweetie here so even if Baby SS was sold here, it would still be a new name.
There's also Half Note/Baby Half Note which bothers me because they're so obv. not related. I'd like Halfnote to be something else. A "half note" is a minim, right? Minim, Quaver, Semibreve...anything that isn't a note that isn't sure if it is or it isn't.
...Most of the other repeats you list the UK didn't have and thus couldn't rename. I really like Candlelight for Twilight.
...Would stick with the US "Molasses" though. It's the one and only time that the US didn't repeat a name and the UK did.
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My main issue with names is double names.
We don't need two cuddles or three sea breeze's.
I would also change the names sticky and sniffles. There's already another sniffles and sticky is just such a sad name.
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I'll have to think what I'd call them - it's challenging enough thinking of names for my own ponies, but the first ones I think of are the ones who essentially aren't even named, and/or just have basic names to describe what they are.
I mean ponies like "Miss Painter" and "Miss Teacher" - spend a whole day on them, did you Hasbro?
I don't mind duplicate names too much, when naming my ponies I've found I've used names of real ponies without noticing, but if I like the name, I just stick with it, and make it a different pony. Pretty much what Hasbro themselves did.
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I don't think Steamer's that unfortunate.
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I guess it depends on how you hear it - the silly thing is, I probably wouldn't have even thought of it until I heard other people saying it.
I'm not even sure really...
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For me, Posey will always be Tulips, because that what I called her when I was a kid - my sister and I were very literal in the names we gave to our ponies, such as Baby Up, Up and Away being called 'Balloons' and Sleepy Head being 'PJs'.
Also much as I love the pony herself, I've never been keen on Heart Throb's name; the texture of the word 'throb' is just immensely unpleasant to my mind. Not sure what I'd call her as an alternative, though. Maybe to honour my childhood tradition of literal names, she could be called 'Love-Wings' or something. XD
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On the subject of Up, Up and Away, I'm in two minds about the name. On the one hand, I love the name, as I can't resist singing it in my mind when I read it, but on the other, it feels too much of a sentence to be a name at least sometimes. It feels more like an episode title at times (which it was), than a pony's name.
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I named my childhood Sparkler 'Tiffany' when I got her, because she was my very first pony and I didn't yet realize they came packaged with names. My sister had a friend named Tiffany and I just thought it was pretty, I guess.
Post Merge: July 06, 2020, 06:29:21 AM
I like your ideas LaW!
I And I suppose I like to switch twins Doodles & Noodles' names around- I call the blue one Doodles, & pink one Noodles.
I always called my blue twin Doodles and pink twin Noodles too...I don't remember if I just didn't know they were supposed to be the other way around and randomly assigned them their names, or I did know and willfully switched them (probably the latter!), but to this day, I have a hard time thinking of them with their correct names.
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Who would it be and why? Maybe you’re attached to the name you gave them as a kid before you knew their packaged name, maybe you think the family ponies need some individuality, or maybe the original doesn’t sit with you. Regardless, share what name you would change if you could, and what name you would go with!
I’ll get the touchy one out of the way; Gypsy is a pretty name if you don’t know much about the cultural context, but I’d maybe go with Bangles, Jangles, or just Tamborine. Heh, maybe Tamberine, as a mix of the instrument with Tangerine for her color.
Ooh I love Jangles or Tambourine for her replacement name, I'm glad to see someone acknowledge that Gypsy might need a name change. I like the idea of mixing tangerine and tambourine - Tamberine? Tangourine?
On the subject of Up, Up and Away, I'm in two minds about the name. On the one hand, I love the name, as I can't resist singing it in my mind when I read it, but on the other, it feels too much of a sentence to be a name at least sometimes. It feels more like an episode title at times (which it was), than a pony's name.
I agree it's so long! It's a fun name but it's hard to even shorten it. Like, what would you call her, Up?
A certain wall-eyed pegasus. Or possibly a certain unfortunately-named fashion pony.
I like Muffins or Bubbles for her a lot more than her OG name. "Ditzy" is cuter too, while still alluding to the name that the fanbase gave her ^.^
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I'll have to think what I'd call them - it's challenging enough thinking of names for my own ponies, but the first ones I think of are the ones who essentially aren't even named, and/or just have basic names to describe what they are.
I mean ponies like "Miss Painter" and "Miss Teacher" - spend a whole day on them, did you Hasbro?
I don't mind duplicate names too much, when naming my ponies I've found I've used names of real ponies without noticing, but if I like the name, I just stick with it, and make it a different pony. Pretty much what Hasbro themselves did.
Hip Holly in French is also Miss Gadget. (Inspector Gadget flashback anyone?) I think it comes from that; I have a feeling they're french-origin names.
I like Up Up's French name. It's "Montgolfiere".
And in answer to what you call her. Well, that's what I call her. Up Up. :p. Is that not what everyone else calls her for short?
Going back to what Ponyfan said about Woosie, thinking about it, most of the Happytails ponies sound like they've had a hard night of partying. Goodness knows what inspired them.
There are also some interesting connitations for Crumpet (though she wasn't sold in the UK so it probably doesn't matter), and of course the infamous Kiwi Tart who happened to be sold first in New Zealand if I remember rightly...
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I like the name Muffins best for the bubbly G4 pegasus. I think it's valid to use that name because she is credited as Muffins on more than one episode where she speaks. I just wish the whole letting the bronies name her never happened.
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I always think of G3 Sunrise Song as an update of Mimic, so I would definitely change her name to that. And kept her yellow!
Floater and Pillow Talk really need new names too!
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I'm always going to like "Pillow Talk", because I have a nostalgic attachment to her name, even though I know why people find it to be an "iffy" name.
I know this will cause controversy, but I also don't mind the brony name for the "Muffin" pegasus. The thing is, that name, doesn't necessarily mean anything bad, as it's a made up word. If people have used it to mean the "R" word then... understandable, I guess, but the word was never meant to mean that - the point of the word was supposed to be "I made a mistake" from what I understand, so the whole reason used the term was probably because she became famous from an animation error - she wasn't supposed to be scene with her eyes like that, so it was a mistake, hence her name. It was never intended to be offensive, and to me, it isn't. If anything, saying she is, is more so (and no, this isn't a brony thing - it goes more than that.)
If anyone is offended by this reply I'll delete it, or you can, and I'll try not to say it again. I know it's a touchy subject here.
I will say, as much as I like it, it doesn't really fit in with MLP, but I stick to it out of nostalgia.
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With the Muffin pony, the thing is that the brony community use/d those disability perjoratives freely. Hence the connection was made and that's I think why it's considered an offensive name.
That said, and even as an autistic person, I also don't find the Muffin pony name offensive. I find the community that spawned it offensive, but until I understood exactly where it had come from, I saw it as just a word that meant a scatterbrain or someone who made mistakes a lot. And so personally I'm not offended by the pony's name.
On the subject of Pillow Talk, the whole set really has implications when you put the names together. Pink Dreams, Sleepy Head, Sleep Tight, and Nightcap. Yes, another wild Hasbro party on the cards.
And on that note, Kiss & Tell...heck, even Kiss & Make Up...what's going on there? The morals completely collapsed. The US set had banal but less questionable names in Happy Hugs and Lovin' Kisses...
I have a real problem with Kiss & Tell. That's not something you should be teaching young girls.
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Changing her name would be to punish the bronies for being ableists and being spoiled brats.
The other G4 pony I really want to rename - a certain unfortunately-named seamstress from Season 4 - is possibly one of the biggest cases of Hasbro US being stupid with regard to selecting pony names, and a prime example of US ignorance. That choice was so bad that they need to redub the episode and recall, destroy, and replace the DVDs containing it. Or have they already fixed it?
A G1 pony who badly needs a rename is the Surprise Twins Pony. Because her "name" is just a description and not a real name.
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Changing her name would be to punish the bronies for being ableists and being spoiled brats.
There is that. But it's not all bronies who fit that category. I personally have the FS one and I still don't know what to call her. I feel like her name is an image, and I don't know how to pronounce that image. My mother and I had a discussion about her tonight, and between us we came up with 'Dusk' as a new name for her.
I don't know what the name of that seamstress is but now I'm going to hit google.
I call Surprise Twins pony "Missile Launcher." But her card story actually calls her "Mummy Pony" which is even worse...
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With the Muffin pony, the thing is that the brony community use/d those disability perjoratives freely. Hence the connection was made and that's I think why it's considered an offensive name.
That said, and even as an autistic person, I also don't find the Muffin pony name offensive. I find the community that spawned it offensive, but until I understood exactly where it had come from, I saw it as just a word that meant a scatterbrain or someone who made mistakes a lot. And so personally I'm not offended by the pony's name.
Aside from one comment on some other site (a site I have never associated myself with) I've always felt that bronies only ever used it to mean "someone who makes mistakes a lot" - the idea that she had a disability or anything that could lead to the character being deemed offensive, I always assumed, came from the complaints about her, as it always came out of left field to me. I can only comment about the bronies that I was looking at, but it looked like none of them even considered making her anything more than "a clumsy pony who means well", if even that. Even if she was just there to be clumsy, there was no offensive joke behind it in the circles I was following.
It is unfair of me to derail this further, so if people want to talk about this further, would it be okay if I request either another thread or you PM me? I know I started it, but I don't want to ruin the thread more than I have done.
On the subject of Pillow Talk, the whole set really has implications when you put the names together. Pink Dreams, Sleepy Head, Sleep Tight, and Nightcap. Yes, another wild Hasbro party on the cards.
Aside from "Nightcap" relating to alcohol, the rest of the names seem pretty cute and innocent to me. The silly thing is, part of the "story" (such as it is) as to why I have a nostalgic attachment to the name Pillow Talk relates to a song that from what I can see was thinking of the term in the non-innocent way (even though it was kind of "chicken and egg" as the song reminds me of the pony and the pony reminds me of the song), though I do see the name from it's innocent perspective, mainly, like talking before you sleep during a slumber party or whatever.
And on that note, Kiss & Tell...heck, even Kiss & Make Up...what's going on there? The morals completely collapsed. The US set had banal but less questionable names in Happy Hugs and Lovin' Kisses...
Kiss & Make Up seems okay, as it's suppsoedly a childish way of appologising, but Kiss and Tell... yeah... I see what you mean there.
The other G4 pony I really want to rename - a certain unfortunately-named seamstress from Season 4 - is possibly one of the biggest cases of Hasbro US being stupid with regard to selecting pony names, and a prime example of US ignorance. That choice was so bad that they need to redub the episode and recall, destroy, and replace the DVDs containing it. Or have they already fixed it?
Coco Pommel's name changed because Coco Chanel told them not to use her name. Personally, I would have just deleted the last name and gone with Coco, as that could be anybody.
In Hasbro's defences, I didn't even know it had Nazi connections either, and do many people since her brand is still very famous.
A G1 pony who badly needs a rename is the Surprise Twins Pony. Because her "name" is just a description and not a real name.
Agreed, that is what I basically mean about ponies who are "not named". It's not the same as "Miss Teacher" or whatever, but it is, like you say, a description of the pony, not "her name".
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Regardless of whether Muffin pony’s old name is negative to the disabled community, I say we ditch it because I think it convinced some people that it is a real word meaning Wall-Eyed. Seriously, I’ve heard people believe that with no awareness.
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On the subject of Pillow Talk, the whole set really has implications when you put the names together. Pink Dreams, Sleepy Head, Sleep Tight, and Nightcap. Yes, another wild Hasbro party on the cards.
And on that note, Kiss & Tell...heck, even Kiss & Make Up...what's going on there? The morals completely collapsed. The US set had banal but less questionable names in Happy Hugs and Lovin' Kisses...
I have a real problem with Kiss & Tell. That's not something you should be teaching young girls.
I thought the same thing about Nightcap and I also agree on Kiss & Tell. Tispy Tulip also makes me think of ponies drinking alcohol.
Sometimes I wonder how Hasbro came up with some of these names.
Ponyfan
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I think "Pillow Talk" was a case of "Tee hee, see what we did there? Nudge nudge wink wink say no more" and they figured it was safe since it would sail right over the heads of children unless for some reason they already knew what that meant. "Nightcap," most children would assume referred to an actual sleeping cap and not a euphemism for pre-bedtime alcohol.
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"Nightcap," most children would assume referred to an actual sleeping cap and not a euphemism for pre-bedtime alcohol.
Tbf, I'm 37 and never knew til this moment that Nightcap meant something else :lol:
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I named my Muffins pony Cupcake :lol: I remember getting her and saying 'I know the name of this one.... it's something to do with small cakes....Cupcake!' And the name stuck.
I rename a lot of ponies, usually with random human names that only really make sense to me so I wouldn't expect them to be widely adopted.
My girlfriend called Sticky and Sniffles Mittens and Booties when she was little, which I think is cute. Anything's an improvement on their official names, which just sound like a disease!
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I strongly suspect what happened with them was someone going "Ugh, more babies to name... Fine. I'll call 'em Sticky and Sniffles since babies are always making sticky messes of themselves and getting sick"
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For me, I'd do a swap, Pretty Belle and Sweet Sundrop. I think they were unintentionally swapped during production.
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Floater
Yes, oh my goodness, yes :lol:
I think as a group the Happy Tails ponies got the worst names. Squeezer? Woosie? Tossles? :lookround:
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I like Fleecy and Fluffy better then I think it was Speckles and Bunkie? Or was that Sticky and Sniffles?
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I like Fleecy and Fluffy better then I think it was Speckles and Bunkie? Or was that Sticky and Sniffles?
Fleecy and Fluffy are Speckles and Bunkie. Sticky and Sniffles are called Tuggles and Toddles inthe Uk. Which are also stupid baby names but at least don't sound like a biological weapon is being born.
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I like Fleecy and Fluffy better then I think it was Speckles and Bunkie? Or was that Sticky and Sniffles?
Fleecy and Fluffy are Speckles and Bunkie. Sticky and Sniffles are called Tuggles and Toddles inthe Uk. Which are also stupid baby names but at least don't sound like a biological weapon is being born.
Okay, that last line made me laugh.
If I ever get those twins I'm calling them Fleecy and Fluffy.
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While I don't have an alternative to suggest, off the top of my head I'd say
Whizzer
Floater
Swinger ... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Some great alternative names have been suggested :D
A few G3s came to mind for me. I love Shenanigans, but never cared for her name. I personally would have called her Skywishes, and would have changed the actual Skywishes to Skyflier, after the G1, since both of them have kite symbols.
I also love the pony Finger Paints, but to me she is "Pretty Palette."
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Pretty Palette is such a lovely name!
I love the Baby Ballerina ponies but despair of their names. Baby Tippytoes is Clover to me :)
I said Sticky and Sniffles just now, but I meant Sniffles and Snookums :facepalm: Hence renaming one of them Mittens.
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On the subject of Pillow Talk, the whole set really has implications when you put the names together. Pink Dreams, Sleepy Head, Sleep Tight, and Nightcap. Yes, another wild Hasbro party on the cards.
And on that note, Kiss & Tell...heck, even Kiss & Make Up...what's going on there? The morals completely collapsed. The US set had banal but less questionable names in Happy Hugs and Lovin' Kisses...
I have a real problem with Kiss & Tell. That's not something you should be teaching young girls.
I thought the same thing about Nightcap and I also agree on Kiss & Tell. Tispy Tulip also makes me think of ponies drinking alcohol.
Sometimes I wonder how Hasbro came up with some of these names.
Ponyfan
On the subject of alcohol-related names, my little son was buzzing around me yesterday with a booklet of a bunch of vintage ponies printed in it, and asking me what their names were. I was too busy to answer him, so he started naming them himself. One of them he called 'Moonshine'. I thought it was funny. I tried to look at it later to pick out who he might have been talking about, maybe it was Nightglider, as the TAF ponies were featured on it, but I'm not sure.
It would be a fun custom pony to make...a grizzled old guy pony with an eyepatch, a scowl, and a tankard foaming over by the light of the moon as his symbol...
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I also love the pony Finger Paints, but to me she is "Pretty Palette."
Makes sense to me. The shame of being named Finger Paints when neither you nor your friends have fingers...
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I'd name every Snookums something else. Its just an awful name period.
I'd switch Autumn Crisp and Pumpkin Tart's names.
I'd give Ribbs a different name. What was wrong with Draco, or Flamethrower? Ribbs makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever. I like to joke that barbecuing is his true passion.
Green Apple should have either been green or been named Pink Lady.
Pink Sunsparkle should have just left off the pink.
Tink-a-tink-a-too should have just been called Tink.
Lots of G2 names are nonsensical and feel hastily slapped on. Glittery Study, Springly, Junior etc.
Post Merge: July 08, 2020, 10:04:40 AM
I hate it when ponies within a generation have duplicate names! The UK had the right idea by giving some of them original names, so I'd want those to be used worldwide in those cases.
Other names that would warrant changing:
Sundazzle and Princess Sunbeam
SS Twilight-Candlelight would be a pretty name
TAF Yum Yum
Tropical and Baby Seabreeze
Prom Queen Cha Cha
DNW Cuddles and Snookums
SHS Twinkler
MGR Sparkler
Winger Sky Dancer
Baby Sweet Stuff
TAF Fifi and Buttons
Any baby sea pony that looks nothing like the adult they share a name with
Although TE Sky Rocket was the original, I think the name works better with the Sparkle version, so I'd change her name.
Unrelated, but
I get Brilliant Blossoms and Brilliant Bloom mixed up all the time. One of them needs a more unique (and less long) name
Also 1987 Hasbro, let's go back to the drawing board with every year 6 newborn twins (except for Sandcastle and Shovels. Those are fine). You can do better than "Sticky and Sniffles" or "Puddles and Peeks".
Puddles and Peeks fits just fine with the bird poop twins. :lol:
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I also love the pony Finger Paints, but to me she is "Pretty Palette."
Makes sense to me. The shame of being named Finger Paints when neither you nor your friends have fingers...
XD
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Somewhere in this thread someone mentioned Heart Throb, and I agree... Even as a child, when I didn't even know what the name meant, I thought her name sounded gross, I don't know why. XD
Also, many of the "suggestive" names went right over my head as a child, and most of them still do since I was born and raised in The Netherlands, so I'm not familiar with most (slang) words like that. Though to be honest I think most of these names fly right over a child's head, when I was a child I never picked up anything at all. But then again, maybe I was just an extremely naive child. XD
For example, as a child I listened a lot to Boudewijn de Groot (Dutch singer), and one song mentions a "book/magazine with pictures on which you could see everything". I sincerely thought he meant a book with some magical, holographic pictures with rainbows and such. Yeah, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, haha! XD
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Floater
INDEED!!! :lol: