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Quote from: Sweet Daes on July 12, 2018, 07:45:18 PMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:43:55 PMNot so Sweet Daes, kids enjoy diversity. But Hasbro bo longer cares, because they've been pulling this crap early on and never stopped. My daughter and my cousin were into MH dolls and asked for specific ones, Abby Bominable, Venus McFlytrap, Ghoulia Yelps. Not Draculara, Draculara and Clawdeen for example. Transformers and DC/Marvel has a butt ton of characters that kids go looking for. So yes, it is too samey. MLP isn't Barbie. Nor should Hasbro treat it as such. I say that because of my experience in the field.And, to be more fair, not every franchise has a death and rebirth as often as MLP.Well here's experience for you. You seem to believe that kids are only interested in characters that they recognize and that unrecognizable ones don't sell well. Yet it is KIDS, not adults, that have had 30 decades of diversity with MLP before all this bore core/mane sux nonsense. All other gens before this had tons of random ponies and kids liked/disliked this, that and the other without issue.
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:43:55 PMNot so Sweet Daes, kids enjoy diversity. But Hasbro bo longer cares, because they've been pulling this crap early on and never stopped. My daughter and my cousin were into MH dolls and asked for specific ones, Abby Bominable, Venus McFlytrap, Ghoulia Yelps. Not Draculara, Draculara and Clawdeen for example. Transformers and DC/Marvel has a butt ton of characters that kids go looking for. So yes, it is too samey. MLP isn't Barbie. Nor should Hasbro treat it as such. I say that because of my experience in the field.And, to be more fair, not every franchise has a death and rebirth as often as MLP.
Not so Sweet Daes, kids enjoy diversity. But Hasbro bo longer cares, because they've been pulling this crap early on and never stopped. My daughter and my cousin were into MH dolls and asked for specific ones, Abby Bominable, Venus McFlytrap, Ghoulia Yelps. Not Draculara, Draculara and Clawdeen for example. Transformers and DC/Marvel has a butt ton of characters that kids go looking for. So yes, it is too samey. MLP isn't Barbie. Nor should Hasbro treat it as such.
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: Sweet Daes on July 12, 2018, 07:45:18 PMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:43:55 PMNot so Sweet Daes, kids enjoy diversity. But Hasbro bo longer cares, because they've been pulling this crap early on and never stopped. My daughter and my cousin were into MH dolls and asked for specific ones, Abby Bominable, Venus McFlytrap, Ghoulia Yelps. Not Draculara, Draculara and Clawdeen for example. Transformers and DC/Marvel has a butt ton of characters that kids go looking for. So yes, it is too samey. MLP isn't Barbie. Nor should Hasbro treat it as such. I say that because of my experience in the field.And, to be more fair, not every franchise has a death and rebirth as often as MLP.Well here's experience for you. You seem to believe that kids are only interested in characters that they recognize and that unrecognizable ones don't sell well. Yet it is KIDS, not adults, that have had 30 decades of diversity with MLP before all this bore core/mane sux nonsense. All other gens before this had tons of random ponies and kids liked/disliked this, that and the other without issue.I also edited this into my other post:***And the fact that the show is specifically made to sell the toys of the main characters, partially for the secondary characters, but not all for the background characters.Just because a few dislike it doesn't mean that they won't sell well. The remolds of the characters, I think, are dumbly doofy as all get-out and I dislike how they've taken a larger departure from how I see the characters in the show. Because of how they look I've only collected the baby seaponies, the mane 6 and some other characters from the show. That's where I stop with G4.5. However, just because I don't like them doesn't mean that there are not droves of others who do and are willing to shell out the money.The marketing for MLP is not for the picky part of the fan population, I'm afraid.
Quote from: Sweet Daes on July 12, 2018, 07:57:17 PMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: Sweet Daes on July 12, 2018, 07:45:18 PMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:43:55 PMNot so Sweet Daes, kids enjoy diversity. But Hasbro bo longer cares, because they've been pulling this crap early on and never stopped. My daughter and my cousin were into MH dolls and asked for specific ones, Abby Bominable, Venus McFlytrap, Ghoulia Yelps. Not Draculara, Draculara and Clawdeen for example. Transformers and DC/Marvel has a butt ton of characters that kids go looking for. So yes, it is too samey. MLP isn't Barbie. Nor should Hasbro treat it as such. I say that because of my experience in the field.And, to be more fair, not every franchise has a death and rebirth as often as MLP.Well here's experience for you. You seem to believe that kids are only interested in characters that they recognize and that unrecognizable ones don't sell well. Yet it is KIDS, not adults, that have had 30 decades of diversity with MLP before all this bore core/mane sux nonsense. All other gens before this had tons of random ponies and kids liked/disliked this, that and the other without issue.I also edited this into my other post:***And the fact that the show is specifically made to sell the toys of the main characters, partially for the secondary characters, but not all for the background characters.Just because a few dislike it doesn't mean that they won't sell well. The remolds of the characters, I think, are dumbly doofy as all get-out and I dislike how they've taken a larger departure from how I see the characters in the show. Because of how they look I've only collected the baby seaponies, the mane 6 and some other characters from the show. That's where I stop with G4.5. However, just because I don't like them doesn't mean that there are not droves of others who do and are willing to shell out the money.The marketing for MLP is not for the picky part of the fan population, I'm afraid.Yet you still disregard 30 years of kids who grew up with it, the documented history of a diverse toyline, people's personal experiences with the kids in their family and parrot Hasbro's sorry excuse to be lazy? Nm that there were plenty of non show characters that KIDS owned in whatever respective mlp period they were in. Hasbro sells them so they're going to sell, but that doesn't mean kids don't get tired of it too. Sorry, but in this case your wrong in saying that kids only like and want recognizable characters.
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 08:03:54 PMQuote from: Sweet Daes on July 12, 2018, 07:57:17 PMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:49:40 PMQuote from: Sweet Daes on July 12, 2018, 07:45:18 PMQuote from: Leave a Whisper on July 12, 2018, 07:43:55 PMNot so Sweet Daes, kids enjoy diversity. But Hasbro bo longer cares, because they've been pulling this crap early on and never stopped. My daughter and my cousin were into MH dolls and asked for specific ones, Abby Bominable, Venus McFlytrap, Ghoulia Yelps. Not Draculara, Draculara and Clawdeen for example. Transformers and DC/Marvel has a butt ton of characters that kids go looking for. So yes, it is too samey. MLP isn't Barbie. Nor should Hasbro treat it as such. I say that because of my experience in the field.And, to be more fair, not every franchise has a death and rebirth as often as MLP.Well here's experience for you. You seem to believe that kids are only interested in characters that they recognize and that unrecognizable ones don't sell well. Yet it is KIDS, not adults, that have had 30 decades of diversity with MLP before all this bore core/mane sux nonsense. All other gens before this had tons of random ponies and kids liked/disliked this, that and the other without issue.I also edited this into my other post:***And the fact that the show is specifically made to sell the toys of the main characters, partially for the secondary characters, but not all for the background characters.Just because a few dislike it doesn't mean that they won't sell well. The remolds of the characters, I think, are dumbly doofy as all get-out and I dislike how they've taken a larger departure from how I see the characters in the show. Because of how they look I've only collected the baby seaponies, the mane 6 and some other characters from the show. That's where I stop with G4.5. However, just because I don't like them doesn't mean that there are not droves of others who do and are willing to shell out the money.The marketing for MLP is not for the picky part of the fan population, I'm afraid.Yet you still disregard 30 years of kids who grew up with it, the documented history of a diverse toyline, people's personal experiences with the kids in their family and parrot Hasbro's sorry excuse to be lazy? Nm that there were plenty of non show characters that KIDS owned in whatever respective mlp period they were in. Hasbro sells them so they're going to sell, but that doesn't mean kids don't get tired of it too. Sorry, but in this case your wrong in saying that kids only like and want recognizable characters.If Hasbro is raking in the money off of the marketing plan then they will keep doing it. That's the basics of marketing and why the cycle repeats itself with a thriving company.If the formula works then there is little to no reason to mess with it as much as what some outsiders looking in think it should be.
Ah so we're all outsiders now? Just like those two ladies who said that little girls only want the same thing and only play the same way? Sounds like they aren't the only ones disconnected from their actual audience.
Now of course Hasbro never stops surprising me with their cheapness and laziness. So I'm not vouching for them to change anything. But just saying... the Descendants are on their last movie. Forces of Destiny flopped. They need to have something to keep their girl line strong and currently that's partially MLP (the other part is baby dolls). So they better groom those ponies a bit.
Quote from: Zapper on July 11, 2018, 07:42:25 PMNow of course Hasbro never stops surprising me with their cheapness and laziness. So I'm not vouching for them to change anything. But just saying... the Descendants are on their last movie. Forces of Destiny flopped. They need to have something to keep their girl line strong and currently that's partially MLP (the other part is baby dolls). So they better groom those ponies a bit.That would explain why Forces of Destiny is on markdown at Target. I'm sad that it flopped because when I was a kid I would have LOVED them.
@Zapper Leia has an extra outfit or two, so I thought they could change outfits? Oh well. I'll probably pick up Leia or whoever comes with R2 next time I see them on clearance.
I hope they can reboot it soon. I would like to see original SW doll characters instead of the limited range they have going on right now. SW is full of different alien species, they could have done something like Monster High with it. Just instead of going to a High School they would be padawans or whatever. It's like they are all allergic to diversifying their line-ups.