I don't know but I've re-haired one or two forelocks in my time as it's just nice to right a wrong. I tend to keep ponies I've fixed and sell the more original condition ones because they don't look any different on the shelf and are harder to re home.
I don't know but I've re-haired one or two forelocks in my time as it's just nice to right a wrong. I tend to keep ponies I've fixed and sell the more original condition ones because they don't look any different on the shelf and are harder to re home.
You definitely did a great job on little Ember :)
I wondered how many ponies share names with plants. Today I planted a geum called Lemon Drops' into my garden...
Savannah Sage isI don't know but I've re-haired one or two forelocks in my time as it's just nice to right a wrong. I tend to keep ponies I've fixed and sell the more original condition ones because they don't look any different on the shelf and are harder to re home.
You definitely did a great job on little Ember :)
I wondered how many ponies share names with plants. Today I planted a geum called Lemon Drops' into my garden...
Aaaah! Such a great idea! Ponies and plants. That is such a dreamily pretty Geum. My Favourite in Savanna Sunset, is that also a pony?
I think I've heard that some kids cut their ponies' forelocks so the pony could see better? Which always makes me wonder if one day there will be a lot of those G4 Sia ponies in charity shops with their fringes removed.Hm, we might. I haven't seen a lot of G4s in thrift stores, but I'm sure they will start popping up more as time progresses.
My random pony thought: I've been filling in a G4 sticker book and I somehow only just noticed that G4 ponies' hooves are actually smaller than their eyes o_O Am I the only one who finds this weird?!
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Pony smell is so distinct though. Did we ever come to a consensus on what exactly it is??
Welcome to the next meeting of Pony Sniffer's Anonymous. :silly:
I don't get the pony smell thing. I either smell something akin to pool floatie plastic, or occasionally rust/mildew/cigarette smoke.
Okay, I have a random pony thought:
Did you ever have a pony (or two) as a kid and realized that during your childhood you were calling it by a different name, either because a) you didn't know how to pronounce its name, or b) you just went through your entire childhood thinking that was its name and only just now, as an adult, realized it had an entirely different name? :P I can give you an example for each one:
Not this exactly, but I grew up with the UK names, and having to adjust or use two names where there are different US names is brain taxing at times. I learned all the US names for ease of communication, but I really hate using them because it's like I'm not talking about the ponies I grew up with at all any more. I wonder if people who grew up with ponies in other languages ever feel like that...
One of the reasons why I loved mail-order Ember was because only one was the "Ember". The other two were literally blank slates that I could give whatever name I wanted to.
I named my blue Ember "Blueberry" and she went with me everywhere.
I have both the purple one (like in the show) & the pink one. The pink one is her twin, Emma.One of the reasons why I loved mail-order Ember was because only one was the "Ember". The other two were literally blank slates that I could give whatever name I wanted to.
I named my blue Ember "Blueberry" and she went with me everywhere.
That's cute
Okay, I have a random pony thought:
I also went through my entire life thinking I had one pony, when in actuality I had a completely different pony! Let me tell you the story:
I must have been five or six when I received a pony in the mail. It was a blue baby pony with blue hair and no symbol and it came in a small box. Of course I was thrilled to get it and that’s really all I remember: just the excitement of opening a small box to find a pony in there. I don’t remember if it came with any papers telling me what the pony’s name was or anything like that. All my life, I figured the pony was Lucky. Obviously, as you may have guessed, I had a blue Ember. You have to remember this story takes place in the ‘80s, a time before we had a wonderful thing called the Internet. It probably wasn’t until a few years ago when I was doing some MLP research and made this discovery. The pony I had was clearly not Lucky; I just thought it was him because my pony was all blue! And I just assumed they forgot to print the horseshoe symbol, so what do I do? Get out my purple magic marker and draw a crude horseshoe on its haunches! I still have that little pony and it will probably always be known as “Lucky” to me.
I have both the purple one (like in the show) & the pink one. The pink one is her twin, Emma.One of the reasons why I loved mail-order Ember was because only one was the "Ember". The other two were literally blank slates that I could give whatever name I wanted to.
I named my blue Ember "Blueberry" and she went with me everywhere.
That's cute
I find G1 ponies have the most fun to style hair.Styling G1 pony hair is heaven :drunk:
I find G1 ponies have the most fun to style hair. I used to be mostly big on G3 but finally owning G1's made me just adore them the most. They are so chunky and nice to hold! Their size is just perfect!
Another thought, am I strange for liking to get more dingy and dirty ponies? I get satisfaction from cleaning them up and making them new again! Seeing the Before & After always makes me proud. It also just gives me something to put some time and work into. It also makes me feel more attached to them because I'm the one that made them look good as new again, they didn't just come that way!
I find G1 ponies have the most fun to style hair.Styling G1 pony hair is heaven :drunk:
I find G1 ponies have the most fun to style hair. I used to be mostly big on G3 but finally owning G1's made me just adore them the most. They are so chunky and nice to hold! Their size is just perfect!
Another thought, am I strange for liking to get more dingy and dirty ponies? I get satisfaction from cleaning them up and making them new again! Seeing the Before & After always makes me proud. It also just gives me something to put some time and work into. It also makes me feel more attached to them because I'm the one that made them look good as new again, they didn't just come that way!
Okay, I have a random pony thought:
Did you ever have a pony (or two) as a kid and realized that during your childhood you were calling it by a different name, either because a) you didn't know how to pronounce its name, or b) you just went through your entire childhood thinking that was its name and only just now, as an adult, realized it had an entirely different name?
I'm the same with later realizing the real name of my ponies and I also like to clean up new additions! Feels very rewarding :)
My random thought : it would have been great if they had made more darker colored g1 and g3 ponies. Some deep wine red, forest green , or an abyss blue.... It's one of the reasons I like the Stranger things applejack so much with her unique colors.
I'm the same with later realizing the real name of my ponies and I also like to clean up new additions! Feels very rewarding :)There are black ones from HQG1C, & you can keep some as is & Customise others. I also do a lot of dark colours, including Boys. I was wanting to do a rare colours thread in Customs (red, grey, brown, black). Should I or will somebody else beat me to it???
My random thought : it would have been great if they had made more darker colored g1 and g3 ponies. Some deep wine red, forest green , or an abyss blue.... It's one of the reasons I like the Stranger things applejack so much with her unique colors.
I just realized that technically, Tirek from the TV animated special was a collector (and a customizer in a way, if you think about it).:haha: BRILLIANT!!!
I just realized that technically, Tirek from the TV animated special was a collector (and a customizer in a way, if you think about it).*coffee spray*
I just realized that technically, Tirek from the TV animated special was a collector (and a customizer in a way, if you think about it).
I never had any pony outside of G1, but is G2 and G3 hair in any particular way different?
I never had any pony outside of G1, but is G2 and G3 hair in any particular way different?
I think for me its less the texture and more the way its cut! G3 ponies pretty much all have the same length/style except for a few having extra long hair. I feel like its more fun to style G1 hair in different ways, like having curls!
Though maybe its just me but I feel like G1 despite its age has the best quality hair of any gen. I have over 20 G1's now and nearly non of them have awful frizzy after a good wash but a good many of G3's hair feels slightly damaged :<
I also just love G1 ponies lil forelock! :lovey:
I'm the same with later realizing the real name of my ponies and I also like to clean up new additions! Feels very rewarding :)There are black ones from HQG1C, & you can keep some as is & Customise others. I also do a lot of dark colours, including Boys. I was wanting to do a rare colours thread in Customs (red, grey, brown, black). Should I or will somebody else beat me to it???
My random thought : it would have been great if they had made more darker colored g1 and g3 ponies. Some deep wine red, forest green , or an abyss blue.... It's one of the reasons I like the Stranger things applejack so much with her unique colors.
I never had any pony outside of G1, but is G2 and G3 hair in any particular way different?
I think for me its less the texture and more the way its cut! G3 ponies pretty much all have the same length/style except for a few having extra long hair. I feel like its more fun to style G1 hair in different ways, like having curls!
Though maybe its just me but I feel like G1 despite its age has the best quality hair of any gen. I have over 20 G1's now and nearly non of them have awful frizzy after a good wash but a good many of G3's hair feels slightly damaged :<
I also just love G1 ponies lil forelock! :lovey:
When did they stop doing forelocks? Or was it pretty random?
When I was a kid I was always taught G1 = forelock, but when I got older I started noticing that actually most of them don't even have one, only the older ones!
I never had any pony outside of G1, but is G2 and G3 hair in any particular way different?
I think for me its less the texture and more the way its cut! G3 ponies pretty much all have the same length/style except for a few having extra long hair. I feel like its more fun to style G1 hair in different ways, like having curls!
Though maybe its just me but I feel like G1 despite its age has the best quality hair of any gen. I have over 20 G1's now and nearly non of them have awful frizzy after a good wash but a good many of G3's hair feels slightly damaged :<
I also just love G1 ponies lil forelock! :lovey:
When did they stop doing forelocks? Or was it pretty random?
When I was a kid I was always taught G1 = forelock, but when I got older I started noticing that actually most of them don't even have one, only the older ones!
I'm not sure, I know some of the very early G4's had forelocks kinda, more like bangs. It was AJ and Twilight.
I don't think any other gen has them, but I don't know any G2 so they could've!
A random pony thought that I had was “ is the original My Pretty Pony” supposed to be “TJ”? Since it bears striking resemblance to Megan’s horse in the g1 cartoon. (I know MPP comes first, but I really don’t think it was given a name until the g1 cartoon?)OOFT could be!!!
I never had any pony outside of G1, but is G2 and G3 hair in any particular way different?
I think for me its less the texture and more the way its cut! G3 ponies pretty much all have the same length/style except for a few having extra long hair. I feel like its more fun to style G1 hair in different ways, like having curls!
Though maybe its just me but I feel like G1 despite its age has the best quality hair of any gen. I have over 20 G1's now and nearly non of them have awful frizzy after a good wash but a good many of G3's hair feels slightly damaged :<
I also just love G1 ponies lil forelock! :lovey:
When did they stop doing forelocks? Or was it pretty random?
When I was a kid I was always taught G1 = forelock, but when I got older I started noticing that actually most of them don't even have one, only the older ones!
I'm not sure, I know some of the very early G4's had forelocks kinda, more like bangs. It was AJ and Twilight.
I don't think any other gen has them, but I don't know any G2 so they could've!
A proportion of G2s have them. I have most of mine in storage at the moment but even of the three sitting on my unit with the G4 ponies I can see that Water Lily has one.
I also have a bunch of early G4 with them too.
As for G1, they more or less stop around 1989 but there are exceptions, for example the fringes on the hairdo ponies and great hair ponies (1993-4) and I am pretty sure the TAF babies, some of those have them as well.
There are also some sets like the Sweetberries which have forelocks in the US and not in the UK and Europe, probably due to manufacturing places and timeline.
And there are some earlier ponies that don't have forelocks too, like a lot of the unicorns I think.
Looking at the G3 on my shelf (which is a long way from most of my G3) I can't see any forelocks.
A random pony thought that I had was “ is the original My Pretty Pony” supposed to be “TJ”? Since it bears striking resemblance to Megan’s horse in the g1 cartoon. (I know MPP comes first, but I really don’t think it was given a name until the g1 cartoon?)
A random pony thought that I had was “ is the original My Pretty Pony” supposed to be “TJ”? Since it bears striking resemblance to Megan’s horse in the g1 cartoon. (I know MPP comes first, but I really don’t think it was given a name until the g1 cartoon?)Huh, could be. I doubt the animators would be aware of MPP though? And both MPPs were never given official names. They were just called MPP. (And Hasbro really never acknowledged their existence after MLP.) Plus "brown with white spots" is a pretty default/vague horse color... it's pretty unlikely. Is MPP meant to be TJ? No. Is TJ meant to reference MPP? Maybe, though I really doubt it.
poor TJ never stood a chance. 5 seconds of screentime and a namedrop, and - oh look, pastel magic ponies!A random pony thought that I had was “ is the original My Pretty Pony” supposed to be “TJ”? Since it bears striking resemblance to Megan’s horse in the g1 cartoon. (I know MPP comes first, but I really don’t think it was given a name until the g1 cartoon?)
You're right; they do look a lot alike! That can't be a coincidence! I feel bad for TJ; Megan just ditched him for Firefly, Sundance, and the other ponies. I mean, how can he compete with pastel talking ponies, some of them who can even FLY?
Yes, and I disliked it even then! >_< I really liked that set, but when I got one of them, I was so disappointed that there was nothing on the other side...Seconded
Sometimes there just isn't a thread for them. What have been your off topic pony thoughts recently?
I've noticed that for some G1 white ponies, the whites of their eyes aren't actually painted. So when they discolor, the white part of their eyes turns brown/yellow. I do not like the look.
I have definitely noticed this... right after dying them midnight blue. XD Oh! Uh ... I guess you got some kind of eye condition there, huh Pony Bride?
I don't think this is a particularly unique thought, but I always wonder, who are the mommies to all of the unique babies in the line? Baby Squirmy? Baby Wiggles? Who's mom!? I won't even get into the implications of having 15ish named male characters as the presumptive fathers, but it seems pretty obvious that newborns need mommies! Aww ... unless the "My Little Pony Mommy" commercial jingle is intended to be more literal! That's cute, in that case. :relaxed:
That's what I like about the unattatched baby ponies. You can make your own families with them.THIS!!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
That's what I like about the unattatched baby ponies. You can make your own families with them.
I just realized that technically, Tirek from the TV animated special was a collector (and a customizer in a way, if you think about it).
I was watching My Little Pony Tales recently and I realized something. For a long time, I had found something strangely unsettling about the way the characters walked on their back legs, and it wasn't just about how unnatural that pose was for an equine, either. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, until it finally dawned on me. Just like in the previous G1 cartoon, the characters' hooves make a clippity-clop sound whenever they walk on hard surfaces. However, while it sounds completely natural when it's four hooves hitting the ground, it just doesn't sound right when you only hear two hooves from someone walking like a human being. You just don't hear something like that in nature, where horses and all the other hoofed animals are always quadrupeds. In fact, probably the only thing that makes this particular sound is devils in movies, since they're usually portrayed with hooves instead of human feet. It might sound weird, but it just makes perfect sense: whenever I heard a MLPT character walk on their back legs, I subconsciously associated the sounds their hooves made with someone with horns and a pitchfork!maybe they wanted to make them like the Japanese Takara ponies? They also walk on their hind legs. I know it’s a long shot, but it’s the only explanation I have. The Tales animation and the Takaras are the only bipedal ponies, for whatever reason.
Since Truly's rumpmark came right out of the Bible (dove carrying olive branch to Noah), I made her my Reverend. She became a Christian after reading some of the books stored in the attic with her before she was sold on...I was watching My Little Pony Tales recently and I realized something. For a long time, I had found something strangely unsettling about the way the characters walked on their back legs, and it wasn't just about how unnatural that pose was for an equine, either. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, until it finally dawned on me. Just like in the previous G1 cartoon, the characters' hooves make a clippity-clop sound whenever they walk on hard surfaces. However, while it sounds completely natural when it's four hooves hitting the ground, it just doesn't sound right when you only hear two hooves from someone walking like a human being. You just don't hear something like that in nature, where horses and all the other hoofed animals are always quadrupeds. In fact, probably the only thing that makes this particular sound is devils in movies, since they're usually portrayed with hooves instead of human feet. It might sound weird, but it just makes perfect sense: whenever I heard a MLPT character walk on their back legs, I subconsciously associated the sounds their hooves made with someone with horns and a pitchfork!maybe they wanted to make them like the Japanese Takara ponies? They also walk on their hind legs. I know it’s a long shot, but it’s the only explanation I have. The Tales animation and the Takaras are the only bipedal ponies, for whatever reason.
I’m not quite sure I like the Devil symbolism, but MLP does have a lot of religious elements to it already.
I was watching My Little Pony Tales recently and I realized something. For a long time, I had found something strangely unsettling about the way the characters walked on their back legs, and it wasn't just about how unnatural that pose was for an equine, either. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, until it finally dawned on me. Just like in the previous G1 cartoon, the characters' hooves make a clippity-clop sound whenever they walk on hard surfaces. However, while it sounds completely natural when it's four hooves hitting the ground, it just doesn't sound right when you only hear two hooves from someone walking like a human being. You just don't hear something like that in nature, where horses and all the other hoofed animals are always quadrupeds. In fact, probably the only thing that makes this particular sound is devils in movies, since they're usually portrayed with hooves instead of human feet. It might sound weird, but it just makes perfect sense: whenever I heard a MLPT character walk on their back legs, I subconsciously associated the sounds their hooves made with someone with horns and a pitchfork!maybe they wanted to make them like the Japanese Takara ponies? They also walk on their hind legs. I know it’s a long shot, but it’s the only explanation I have. The Tales animation and the Takaras are the only bipedal ponies, for whatever reason.
I was watching My Little Pony Tales recently and I realized something. For a long time, I had found something strangely unsettling about the way the characters walked on their back legs, and it wasn't just about how unnatural that pose was for an equine, either. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, until it finally dawned on me. Just like in the previous G1 cartoon, the characters' hooves make a clippity-clop sound whenever they walk on hard surfaces. However, while it sounds completely natural when it's four hooves hitting the ground, it just doesn't sound right when you only hear two hooves from someone walking like a human being. You just don't hear something like that in nature, where horses and all the other hoofed animals are always quadrupeds. In fact, probably the only thing that makes this particular sound is devils in movies, since they're usually portrayed with hooves instead of human feet. It might sound weird, but it just makes perfect sense: whenever I heard a MLPT character walk on their back legs, I subconsciously associated the sounds their hooves made with someone with horns and a pitchfork!My friend picked me up the entire series and the only weird thing I noticed was they were kinda jerks in the show. Literally all of the episodes that should have taught some lesson at the end didn't. There was a whole lot of bickering though xD.
Why are true greens such uncommon colors?
Why are true greens such uncommon colors?
Maybe difficult to get the dye right??
It does make the few that exist special though.
Wanted baby g3 unicorns. And boys.I've Customised some
I had a random thought as I was watching The Glass Princess....it is heavily emphasized that ponies have magical properties in their hair- no matter what race they are. In g4, however, it seems like earth ponies (Pinkie Pie, specifically, and Apple Jack to some extent) alone have magical hair, and I wonder if this was a callback to g1.I heard somewhere that the reason their hair grew back so fast is that the animators didn't feel like drawing them bald for the rest of the storyarc. Which sounds kind of odd considering that they would actually be way easier to animate without hair.
More importantly, what the magical hair means as far as the misconception that many have about earth ponies having no magic goes.
Whenever I watch the "Slumber Party" episode of My Little Pony Tales, i can't help but think that Squire was originally supposed to die in it, but it wouldn't fly past the censors so they had to change that. Just think about it, Patch's ghost story doesn't really make much sense, seing how ghost stories are meant to be scary and there's nothing scary about a dragon simply walking away while the protagonist was temporarily stuck in a hole, plus when we actually see Squire's ghost at the end he's still the same age, implying he never got any older than he was in the story. Now when you see the scene where Patch's story ends with him falling into the hole, imagine that she says something like "and then he fell into the hole and was never seen again, but some say his ghost is still out there" instead, and now the whole episode complete with the twist ending suddenly makes a whole lot of sense!
On that note I always wondered why Baby Fifi's hair was so thin: just one row of white & the streak.
Whenever I watch the "Slumber Party" episode of My Little Pony Tales, i can't help but think that Squire was originally supposed to die in it, but it wouldn't fly past the censors so they had to change that. Just think about it, Patch's ghost story doesn't really make much sense, seing how ghost stories are meant to be scary and there's nothing scary about a dragon simply walking away while the protagonist was temporarily stuck in a hole, plus when we actually see Squire's ghost at the end he's still the same age, implying he never got any older than he was in the story. Now when you see the scene where Patch's story ends with him falling into the hole, imagine that she says something like "and then he fell into the hole and was never seen again, but some say his ghost is still out there" instead, and now the whole episode complete with the twist ending suddenly makes a whole lot of sense!
Oh ... oh no! I wonder if you're right!! Welp, goodbye sleep! :yikes:
Whenever I watch the "Slumber Party" episode of My Little Pony Tales, i can't help but think that Squire was originally supposed to die in it, but it wouldn't fly past the censors so they had to change that. Just think about it, Patch's ghost story doesn't really make much sense, seing how ghost stories are meant to be scary and there's nothing scary about a dragon simply walking away while the protagonist was temporarily stuck in a hole, plus when we actually see Squire's ghost at the end he's still the same age, implying he never got any older than he was in the story. Now when you see the scene where Patch's story ends with him falling into the hole, imagine that she says something like "and then he fell into the hole and was never seen again, but some say his ghost is still out there" instead, and now the whole episode complete with the twist ending suddenly makes a whole lot of sense!
Oh ... oh no! I wonder if you're right!! Welp, goodbye sleep! :yikes:
I was thinking about asking George Arthur Bloom himself for clarification on that, but I don't know if he is available anywhere online :)
I'd love to hear more production stories about both G1 cartoons. But yeah, Tales is a bit of a mystery.
I want to know how they ended up calling the Glow 'n' Shows "Glowing Magicals", which is almost the UK name. I wonder if they got renamed halfway through production, and Hasbro UK/the Tales crew just didn't get the message? Or something.
Can you imagine if the Rainbows, Twinkle Eyes, Brush n Grows and Rainbow Curls had their hair horizontally striped like the UK Family Ponies? That would be so gorgeousPretty, and VERY hard to rehair :shocked:
Whenever I watch the "Slumber Party" episode of My Little Pony Tales, i can't help but think that Squire was originally supposed to die in it, but it wouldn't fly past the censors so they had to change that. Just think about it, Patch's ghost story doesn't really make much sense, seing how ghost stories are meant to be scary and there's nothing scary about a dragon simply walking away while the protagonist was temporarily stuck in a hole, plus when we actually see Squire's ghost at the end he's still the same age, implying he never got any older than he was in the story. Now when you see the scene where Patch's story ends with him falling into the hole, imagine that she says something like "and then he fell into the hole and was never seen again, but some say his ghost is still out there" instead, and now the whole episode complete with the twist ending suddenly makes a whole lot of sense!
Oh ... oh no! I wonder if you're right!! Welp, goodbye sleep! :yikes:
I was thinking about asking George Arthur Bloom himself for clarification on that, but I don't know if he is available anywhere online :)
I don't think he is. The guy is in his 70s and has worked on a huge amount of cartoon movies and episodes over the course of his life. I doubt he'd remember such a minor detail from a cartoon episode he wrote nearly 30 years ago. But yeah, if it's a scary story and Squire's ghost is supposed to be haunting, it'd make more sense for him to die in it (although if the story took place a long time ago he'd be dead either way). Falling down a hole is a pretty safe and child friendly way to go in a cartoon, but maybe even that was considered a bit too much.
That said, I'd be really interested in learning more about the production of Tales in general. Like who created the main characters and for what purpose. If it was mainly for the cartoon or mainly for them to be made into toys (considering the toys never released in the US). What the intended market was and why it was such a departure from earlier pony cartoons.
On the subject of the Glow n' Show Ponies and the Rockin' Beats, I wonder why they had different designs in My Little Pony Tales to what they did in the toyline? I noticed it with the latter, when I started checking out the toyline, but it took me time to realise this with the former, for some reason. I mean, why would you advertise a toyline by including them in your cartoon, and then redesign them?
I knew for a long time that they made Dazzleglow an alicorn, but I assumed that was because they couldn't think of how to make her fly and use magic (G1 Twilight could fly without wings in at least one book, but maybe they didn't know that?), but they actually changed the look and pony type of all of them (Starglow remained a pegasus) for some reason. In fact, they look different on their shared backcard as well - the Glow n' Shows have at least three designs!
I don't get why some people have this strange notion that Friends didn't have cohesive stories?
I don't get why some people have this strange notion that Friends didn't have cohesive stories?
It's mostly just bronies bashing older generations without knowing anything about them, as always.
I am not sure if you really have that with Tales either, tbh. Or with FIM in the bits I've seen - it seems like a series where it doesn't really matter a lot which series the ep is from or if they're in order because aside a few notable things (Twilight got wings!?!) there's not a lot that carries over?I feel like we're seeing a lot more kids shows that have a serialized storytelling thing, but I guess that's just She-Ra and binging/Netflix stuff. I know stuff like the Owl House and Amphibia have some sort of season/series-long thread? I haven't seen those personally so I can't really speak on that but I do feel like it's becoming a bit more of a "thing" right now versus episodic stuff.
So honestly I don't think either does a great job of selling products. ;) The masses of not made characters across both series are also a key element of that.That's probably true to some extent. I think most kids watched the cartoon because they were already into the toys. Or they would've been predisposed to colorful fantasy horses either way. It likely didn't matter much if the cartoon was good or bad, as long as there was ponies on screen kids would watch it. I sure watched a lot it as a kid, even though in hindsight there were things that bothered me about it (back then my main annoyance was when the villains/guest characters took too much attention away from the ponies).
I sincerely hope G5 isn't going to have moulded hair in place of actual, decent quality hair.Me too....
Me threeI sincerely hope G5 isn't going to have moulded hair in place of actual, decent quality hair.Me too....
What's the deal with baby ponies? Are baby versions of adults the same pony? Is it like Mario Kart where Mario has an existential crisis when Baby Mario wins the race because he's both Mario and NOT Mario so therefore Mario Mario didn't actually win?I think they're Mini-Me's ala Austin Powers, at least according to UK comic lore, which has their mothers looking at a mirror & receiving "clones" of themselves like Jango & Boba Fett...
I think they're Mini-Me's ala Austin Powers,I love that idea! :lol:
I will never not laugh at Mummy Missile Launcher. Someone needs to show off a video of her in action.The what now?
If Naynie's wasn't in the attic I would happily film the happy event.
Of course, protective goggles may be necessary.
:D
I think it's sad we don't have access to the kinds of things for MLP that do exist for other 80s shows.
We still don't know why Baby Buttons appears in Crunch the Rock Dog, either, and there are at least 2 naming blips in Friends (ignoring the UK/US name differences, there's Score and Lilac, neither of which are actual production names post-release).
Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.As much as I love FiM and did find it to have beautiful friendship moments... I can probably see what you mean, as the later episodes kind of downplayed the friendship theme, not all of them, but it seemed to be pushed into the background, which is a shame.
Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
I think that's because in previous gens characters were less exaggerated for comedic and premise-driven effects. In FiM the main pony friends are very different which creates a lot of tention. Good for writing "friendship lesson" plots that FiM was all about. In the real world we'd tell these girls to just stick with their cliques and Pinkie Pie to piss off already ;)
Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
What episode was that?Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
I think it's mostly because whenever the topic of friendship came up in older generations, it was usually done in a more organic way, without obligatory in-your-face recaps at the end and without the whole "We need to educate those uncultured non-pony savages who look suspiciously like 1950s racial stereotypes that all of their problems can be solved with friendship" narrative.
What episode was that?Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
I think it's mostly because whenever the topic of friendship came up in older generations, it was usually done in a more organic way, without obligatory in-your-face recaps at the end and without the whole "We need to educate those uncultured non-pony savages who look suspiciously like 1950s racial stereotypes that all of their problems can be solved with friendship" narrative.
What episode was that?Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
I think it's mostly because whenever the topic of friendship came up in older generations, it was usually done in a more organic way, without obligatory in-your-face recaps at the end and without the whole "We need to educate those uncultured non-pony savages who look suspiciously like 1950s racial stereotypes that all of their problems can be solved with friendship" narrative.
I don't know names of individual FIM episodes but from what I've gathered, it seems that the show liked to use non-pony species as stand-ins for African, Native American, Asian etc. cultures, they would usually act in stereotypical fashion (like speaking in broken English, having eccenctric customs etc.) and ponies would have to save them by showing them the magic of friendship. If I am wrong and my sources on that were actually incorrect then I apologize.
Since this is my most hated episode, "Over a Barrel" in season 1 or maybe 2 had buffalo stand in for Native Americans with stereotypical feathers, warpaint and all. The Lame Six taught them that they have to share their land with the intruders (cowboy ponies/settler ponies) who wanted to use their land for their plantations.
Later on other bovines would stand in for Pakistan (Yakistan, come on, lol) and be nothing but screamy brutes who talk like Grimlock and stomp on everything. Do I need to go on? :lol:
What episode was that?Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
I think it's mostly because whenever the topic of friendship came up in older generations, it was usually done in a more organic way, without obligatory in-your-face recaps at the end and without the whole "We need to educate those uncultured non-pony savages who look suspiciously like 1950s racial stereotypes that all of their problems can be solved with friendship" narrative.
What episode was that?Its interesting to me that previous iterations of the cartoons handled friendship better then fim ever did.
I think it's mostly because whenever the topic of friendship came up in older generations, it was usually done in a more organic way, without obligatory in-your-face recaps at the end and without the whole "We need to educate those uncultured non-pony savages who look suspiciously like 1950s racial stereotypes that all of their problems can be solved with friendship" narrative.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGERhaY-sQ ...and that's just the song. The entire episode went like this.
Since this is my most hated episode, "Over a Barrel" in season 1 or maybe 2 had buffalo stand in for Native Americans with stereotypical feathers, warpaint and all. The Lame Six taught them that they have to share their land with the intruders (cowboy ponies/settler ponies) who wanted to use their land for their plantations.
Since this is my most hated episode, "Over a Barrel" in season 1 or maybe 2 had buffalo stand in for Native Americans with stereotypical feathers, warpaint and all. The Lame Six taught them that they have to share their land with the intruders (cowboy ponies/settler ponies) who wanted to use their land for their plantations.
Even the "lesson" at the end is wrapped up in such a way that's like "even if someone is strange or weird, don't treat them differently," iirc. Way to drop the ball, hard. Yikes.
Since this is my most hated episode, "Over a Barrel" in season 1 or maybe 2 had buffalo stand in for Native Americans with stereotypical feathers, warpaint and all. The Lame Six taught them that they have to share their land with the intruders (cowboy ponies/settler ponies) who wanted to use their land for their plantations.
I think mini figures and playsets from RAMC would have been amazing! Although, I will always prefer the brushables, I still kind of crave the kind of awesome statues like in FIM for RAMC.
As a kid, ponies with really weird or silly names
Also Zecora being othered as an African stand-in and that bufallo ep led to an onslaught of "racist AJ" memes and racist Equestria fanart in the B-fandom. Certainly not the showrunners fault but a good reminder of what impact these badly thought out plots and morals had. I'm sure a lot of kids got to accidentally see all that "AJ as a plantation owner" crap.
I don't know names of individual FIM episodes but from what I've gathered, it seems that the show liked to use non-pony species as stand-ins for African, Native American, Asian etc. cultures, they would usually act in stereotypical fashion (like speaking in broken English, having eccenctric customs etc.) and ponies would have to save them by showing them the magic of friendship. If I am wrong and my sources on that were actually incorrect then I apologize.This has always been a grey area for me - I have no idea how much of this was the intention of the writers and how much of it was how the fandom took it, but I never really viewed it this way, by which I mean, it's not how I would portray it if I was writing them.
There is at least that one episode where the Griffins (?) have their treasure lost/damaged/broken by Pinkie and Dash who then patronisingly tell them that they now have a better treasure in friendship. Just a touch colonial there. I don't have a good enough knowledge of G4 FIM to know if there are others, but that one sticks with me because it made me feel very uncomfortable.Racial or not (which admittedly, you did not seem to suggest it was), I will admit that the device was ultimately something I was never really sure of - the idea that an entire species has the same values or whatever, like all Griffins are ultimately the same, barring the exceptions (not just Griffins, but non-ponies in general.) I do feel, at least at times, that they would have done better to make it "those specific [insert non-pony species here]" who are the ones who are acting the specific non-friendship understanding way, or whatever - it's never really felt right when they make it out like it's the majority of the species.
Since this is my most hated episode, "Over a Barrel" in season 1 or maybe 2 had buffalo stand in for Native Americans with stereotypical feathers, warpaint and all. The Lame Six taught them that they have to share their land with the intruders (cowboy ponies/settler ponies) who wanted to use their land for their plantations."Over a Barrel" is a weird one for me, because while I took it to be a relatively low (but not bad) episode for completely unrelated reasons (I thought it was more childish and sillier than the rest of the show, and less believable - though some of that could have come from the fact that I was still in the "It's more than just a kid's show!" phase), I missed the whole Native Americans thing, because I wasn't really aware of it. I'm sorry if this sounds bad, but I'm unfamiliar with what their actual history is (history in general has never really been something I paid attention to growing up) and as said earlier in this response, I don't always know what exactly is a stereotype at times, so I can miss things. I was focusing on other things when I watched that episode as well, but ultimately I was unaware that the stereotypes were even there, so I probably wouldn't have even noticed them if I was focusing on where they were. I know they have headdresses and all, but it just didn't click for me - I can't remember what I thought leading up to actually finding out, it just didn't register for me.
Later on other bovines would stand in for Pakistan (Yakistan, come on, lol) and be nothing but screamy brutes who talk like Grimlock and stomp on everything. Do I need to go on? :lol:
I can guess what "War Whoops" are - I forgot they were even in the episode, or if I even noticed them. I know they are associated with Native Americans, but I never really stopped and thought about it, if that makes sense.
Over a Barrel infuriates me. On top of that they had those stereotypical "war whoops" playing in the background of the buffalo stampede through the town.
One episode I watched again recently that left my mouth agape was Bridle Gossip; the Zecora episode. All the things the ponies say about her, even considering it was intended to be in ignorance, is just unbelievable. Rarity said her stripes were garish. It's very obvious that this episode was supposed to have a message behind it about not treating people differently because of their skin colour but the Lame 6 act WAY over the top. They insult Zecora's home and "decor" (which appear to be based on African masks), and say that her "strange incantations" (i.e. a different language) points to her being "bad."
Even the "lesson" at the end is wrapped up in such a way that's like "even if someone is strange or weird, don't treat them differently," iirc. Way to drop the ball, hard. Yikes.
Also Zecora being othered as an African stand-in and that bufallo ep led to an onslaught of "racist AJ" memes and racist Equestria fanart in the B-fandom. Certainly not the showrunners fault but a good reminder of what impact these badly thought out plots and morals had. I'm sure a lot of kids got to accidentally see all that "AJ as a plantation owner" crap.I saw that picture last year on twitter if it's what I think it was (and in fairness the general consensus among bronies seemed to be that it shouldn't exist) - this is another example of my unawareness of things, as I didn't even get what the picture was portraying (litterally only found out tonight) and only knew it was racist because people were saying it was (I'd actually forgotten that the zebras were seen as Africans by that point, so it took time to even register that part of it, and I still didn't get what it was supposed to look like.)
Good lord this also reminded me of that one episode where a Fashion-designer unicorn that Rarity has a crush on comes to town. As soon as he sees Applejack he's in love with her, and he says something like "I've always admired the work-ethic of earthponies." :wacko:What's that in reference to? Is it a reference to a race or something in the real world or is it just because it generalised earth ponies as being all the same?
I don't think it's a reference to a specific race, but I think it's a reference to how some people come up with """positive""" stereotypes of races that are usually completely incorrect and sometimes even fetishize those people. Like how some people put Native Americans on a pedestal as mystical woodland people of grace and mysteriousness, or how some people think all Asians are geniuses.Good lord this also reminded me of that one episode where a Fashion-designer unicorn that Rarity has a crush on comes to town. As soon as he sees Applejack he's in love with her, and he says something like "I've always admired the work-ethic of earthponies." :wacko:What's that in reference to? Is it a reference to a race or something in the real world or is it just because it generalised earth ponies as being all the same?
There is at least that one episode where the Griffins (?) have their treasure lost/damaged/broken by Pinkie and Dash who then patronisingly tell them that they now have a better treasure in friendship. Just a touch colonial there. I don't have a good enough knowledge of G4 FIM to know if there are others, but that one sticks with me because it made me feel very uncomfortable.Racial or not (which admittedly, you did not seem to suggest it was), I will admit that the device was ultimately something I was never really sure of - the idea that an entire species has the same values or whatever, like all Griffins are ultimately the same, barring the exceptions (not just Griffins, but non-ponies in general.) I do feel, at least at times, that they would have done better to make it "those specific [insert non-pony species here]" who are the ones who are acting the specific non-friendship understanding way, or whatever - it's never really felt right when they make it out like it's the majority of the species.
Also Zecora being othered as an African stand-in and that bufallo ep led to an onslaught of "racist AJ" memes and racist Equestria fanart in the B-fandom. Certainly not the showrunners fault but a good reminder of what impact these badly thought out plots and morals had. I'm sure a lot of kids got to accidentally see all that "AJ as a plantation owner" crap.I saw that picture last year on twitter if it's what I think it was (and in fairness the general consensus among bronies seemed to be that it shouldn't exist) - this is another example of my unawareness of things, as I didn't even get what the picture was portraying (litterally only found out tonight) and only knew it was racist because people were saying it was (I'd actually forgotten that the zebras were seen as Africans by that point, so it took time to even register that part of it, and I still didn't get what it was supposed to look like.)
Also Zecora being othered as an African stand-in and that bufallo ep led to an onslaught of "racist AJ" memes and racist Equestria fanart in the B-fandom. Certainly not the showrunners fault but a good reminder of what impact these badly thought out plots and morals had. I'm sure a lot of kids got to accidentally see all that "AJ as a plantation owner" crap.
Good lord this also reminded me of that one episode where a Fashion-designer unicorn that Rarity has a crush on comes to town. As soon as he sees Applejack he's in love with her, and he says something like "I've always admired the work-ethic of earthponies." :wacko:
I don't think it's a reference to a specific race, but I think it's a reference to how some people come up with """positive""" stereotypes of races that are usually completely incorrect and sometimes even fetishize those people. Like how some people put Native Americans on a pedestal as mystical woodland people of grace and mysteriousness, or how some people think all Asians are geniuses.I understand what you mean, thanks for explaining it.
At best, it's very creepy, and at worst, it can actually lead to specific people being bashed for not being exactly like the stereotypes. Plus it often leads to cultural appropriation, such as people using Native American symbols for the 'aesthetic' and completely misusing them in a way that's taboo to the actual natives.
The issue about whether the Griffons all have one collective perspective on something is another topic completely. My issue with it is this attitude:Oh I see, thanks for explaining. Yes I can see why that's not a good message or way of doing things. Good point.
"Hi other race of people whose culture we don't understand. We're coming to preach our preferred ideology at you until you accept it. By the way, while we're at it we're also going to destroy part of your own cultural heritage and then trample over it like it doesn't matter because ours is better. Have a nice day."
The historian hat is coming out a bit here, but I've taught colonialism (from the perspective of East Asia), and that's basically the attitude seen here. "Our culture is better than yours, so change" is also not an uncommon attitude in the world today and I just think it passes on the wrong message.
In all truth it doesn't matter whether the Griffon cultural behaviour resonates with the ponies or whether they understand it. By assuming that their way is better, they're disregarding the traditions of another people and assigning it a negative value because it's 'not friendship'.
It's just that line when they're told they now have 'something better' that really bothers me.
I don't know if you are from the US or not, but I am not and I still immediatly recognize what "slaves working the fields" looks like. Even if I wasn't aware of zebras being African I would have still recognized the time period and conditions. Especially when you see cute cartoon characters for children smiling smugly overlooking or punishing the sadfaced workers. Jebus Christ.No offense taken, I simply didn't understand what I was looking at. I didn't realise that zebras were supposed to be working in the field, I just saw that they were in the field (one appeared to be eating a watermelon, from what I remember.) and Applejack was stood by the fence (I think leaning on it) looking smug dressed in what I took to be a Colonel Sanders outfit (sorry if it wasn't.) If I hadn't seen complaints about racism surrounding it, I would have thought the joke was that Applejack was farming the zebras.
It takes a lot of unawareness to not understand such fanarts. No offense to you.
I know some people say it's ok to create such fanarts as long as they are relegated to websites kids shouldn't be on. But the subject matter is just too messed up and any kind of fanart can just be spread and pop up on image searches even with safety precautions put in place. And the worst thing is about these fanarts: the show gave them an excuse to draw it. Because the show put that portrayal out there, not knowing it would attract racists to a kids cartoon. That's my issue.
I’ve seen g4 ponies how tall they would be compared to humans, but I’m wondering with the rest of the generations! I tried looking around but I haven’t seen anything about it.Good question..
I’ve seen g4 ponies how tall they would be compared to humans, but I’m wondering with the rest of the generations! I tried looking around but I haven’t seen anything about it.Good question..
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Powder's head matches up with about Megan's collarbone. The 50th percentile for 13 year old girls is a bit over five feet. I'd say they're roughly a bit under 4 feet??
I’ve seen g4 ponies how tall they would be compared to humans, but I’m wondering with the rest of the generations! I tried looking around but I haven’t seen anything about it.Good question..
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Powder's head matches up with about Megan's collarbone. The 50th percentile for 13 year old girls is a bit over five feet. I'd say they're roughly a bit under 4 feet??
Oh wow, they're tiny then! I always assumed they were just a little smaller than a standard horse. But I don't know much about horses/ponies, either. I guess I never paid attention to their size ratio to Megan's in the show/movie.
I don't know if you are from the US or not, but I am not and I still immediatly recognize what "slaves working the fields" looks like. Even if I wasn't aware of zebras being African I would have still recognized the time period and conditions. Especially when you see cute cartoon characters for children smiling smugly overlooking or punishing the sadfaced workers. Jebus Christ.No offense taken, I simply didn't understand what I was looking at. I didn't realise that zebras were supposed to be working in the field, I just saw that they were in the field (one appeared to be eating a watermelon, from what I remember.) and Applejack was stood by the fence (I think leaning on it) looking smug dressed in what I took to be a Colonel Sanders outfit (sorry if it wasn't.) If I hadn't seen complaints about racism surrounding it, I would have thought the joke was that Applejack was farming the zebras.
It takes a lot of unawareness to not understand such fanarts. No offense to you.
I know some people say it's ok to create such fanarts as long as they are relegated to websites kids shouldn't be on. But the subject matter is just too messed up and any kind of fanart can just be spread and pop up on image searches even with safety precautions put in place. And the worst thing is about these fanarts: the show gave them an excuse to draw it. Because the show put that portrayal out there, not knowing it would attract racists to a kids cartoon. That's my issue.
I am not American, but it's more my own lack of knowledge than anything.
And G4s are about Fallabella size (25 in/2 ft)
Have we ever had an official size comparison between an Equestria Girl and a FiMmy? Like, were they ever depicted next to each other in-show? Because I feel the FiMmys would be larger than a Fallabella. Their giant heads alone should give them more height :lol: And Celestia would probably be Okapi size, she sure looks like a small giraffe.We've never had them stand next to each other! Just the fan comparison of Fluttershies and bunnies.
OK, does anybody else squish the heads of their softer ponies (mostly G1) really hard to see what cursed expressions you can make when you're bored? I feel like that's irresponsible for a collector, but... It doesn't permanently distort or damage anything, soooo...Spoilervisitors can't see pics , please register or login
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I feel like some of these pictures have serious meme potential... Tabby's first image is probably what the first person to oxiclean boil a Princess Pony looked like after realizing their grave mistake...
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January, I love it. XD
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January, I love it. XD
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Is this how Hasbro came up with the G5 designs?
Sorry for sounding harsh in my previous answer to you, I was just really baffled. But the way you describe it, it sounds like you came across one of the tamer depictions. I sadly saw a lot of violent material.It's fine and understandable. I'm sorry to hear that you were subjected to violent material. If it helps, I don't think you sounded harsh, I probably just thought it was me missing something. Sorry I'm late in responding to this.
Have you ever noticed, that whenever you get ready to buy a pony on your wishlist, the prices usually sky rocket?