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instead [G5 is] this grim dystopian future where the Mane Six failed and are all presumably dead.
this was the prototype for magic motion moonshadowvisitors can't see pics , please register or loginthis is what we got insteadvisitors can't see pics , please register or logini fully do not know what kind of person would have looked at the second one and said "oh yeah that looks better"
I think G4 is the one generation where it is hard to claim there are separate canons.I mean, of course individual fans can have their own ideas, I don't mean that. But I just remember how at the height of G4, whenever you went near a brony space, you would see people insisting that certain things had to be seen a certain way or the person wasn't a fan (or even a human being, apparently). Toys were expected to have show-accurate hair. 100% that never happened in MLP before.So G5 is a successor to the canon those bronies drummed into the asphalt. G4 did not promote individual canons and nor did the most vocal elements of the fandom. The fact there are bronies like you, MJSNEIFER, who see things differently, is great - but we're still talking about a fandom, the vast majority of which struggled with the existence of prior generations (even if they did not actively mock them).I don't have a problem with G5, I just don't care about it. The ponies, toys, show are all bland to me. But by the same token I think G5 needed that blandness, to neutralise the toxicity from the previous iteration.
Quote from: Taffeta on October 28, 2023, 05:24:59 PMI think G4 is the one generation where it is hard to claim there are separate canons.I mean, of course individual fans can have their own ideas, I don't mean that. But I just remember how at the height of G4, whenever you went near a brony space, you would see people insisting that certain things had to be seen a certain way or the person wasn't a fan (or even a human being, apparently). Toys were expected to have show-accurate hair. 100% that never happened in MLP before.So G5 is a successor to the canon those bronies drummed into the asphalt. G4 did not promote individual canons and nor did the most vocal elements of the fandom. The fact there are bronies like you, MJSNEIFER, who see things differently, is great - but we're still talking about a fandom, the vast majority of which struggled with the existence of prior generations (even if they did not actively mock them).I don't have a problem with G5, I just don't care about it. The ponies, toys, show are all bland to me. But by the same token I think G5 needed that blandness, to neutralise the toxicity from the previous iteration.Agree on those kind of bronies not getting it, but G4 itself was promoted into separate canons, like all generations - the toys, cartoons, comics, books, etc. were all their own canon, which bronies tended to miss (hence them referring to the comics as "non-canon" which is incorrect, they were just their own canon.) There is also stuff that contradicts G4's cartoon canon in G5, so it is likely part of it's own canon (somethingly, at least one thing about G5's canon actually aligns with my G4 headcanon... and it's one of the headcanons that bronies probably wouldn't agree with!)I know what you mean about those kind of bronies though - I've seen them, and I thought they were silly even back then. They still exist today (and the same applies to those who view anything that isn't "cartoon-canon" as "non-canon") but I at least like to assume that it's getting better. I definitely know that it exists, and never got it, even back then (and I even admit that there are some established "brony headcanons" that I use, but only because I personally like them)But yeah, what you're talking about is/was definitely a thing. Unfortunately. I think you're right and it connects to the fact that some bronies didn't acknowledge the previous generations, and thus didn't get how MLP worked and the like (and some didn't even get how fanon works, for some reason...) Thank you for being okay with the fact that I view things differently.*SNIP*
I really don't think children today are anymore focused on electronics as kids in the 80s and 90s. I think it's been pretty even the last few decades. I mean, I grew up rich and had any toy I wanted. We also had computers that I played games on and consoles. We also had lots of movies at home. A pool in the backyard. I had a bike and other outdoor toys. I spent time with all of them. I also spent time with my friends playing imaginary games like house and gameshow. I think kids today seem like they are on their phones all the time because we only see them in public places usually. I know the kids in my neighborhood spend time outdoors playing with friends and sometimes it involves toys. When the big Magic Mixies was the huge toy that year, one kid had gotten one for Christmas and played with it outside. I got so tired of hearing that little jingle that played each time she interacted with it. Someone might say that a toy like that doesn't spark creative play or something, but I had Teddy Ruxpin and loved him and got plenty of imagination out of the stories. Same with read along books on tape and Tiger Electronics.Parents play a bigger role. They're responsible for teaching their kids to take care of and appreciate their things. Both my parents grew up poor so with me they really hammered in that if I didn't take care of my things, they'd be taken away or if I broke something it wouldn't be replaced. They also taught me to be grateful for the gifts I got from extended family even if it was something I didn't like (sooooooooo many Barbie dolls). I also think it depends a lot on the kid. I was always content by myself. Heck, give me a tub of Playdoh and leave me to my own and I'd have a great time. Some kids need more stimulation. I believe that not everyone is born with an imagination too, so those kids would probably be on their phones more. Uh, I started with a point. I've lost it now. Basically, I don't think "the kids" have changed too much. Toy manufactures have. Parents have. The world has.