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Quote from: Leave a Whisper on October 18, 2020, 07:36:57 AMI get annoyed when people say that older pony fans weren't into or influenced by the cartoons. Please speak for yourself only. Just because YOU were not big on them, and did not have YOUR play influenced by them, does mean the same for others. I love them and my play was influenced by them.Did someone say this?I've never made a secret of the fact I'm a toy and comic person, but I've heard a lot of G1 fans talk about the cartoon. About as many have also said it didn't matter to them. I think it's more a case of not wanting to see older gens defined by the limited range of the G1 cartoon, not a matter of not being influenced by them. This is not aimed at you, LAW, but it reminds me of some things on this line that bother me.1. G1 does not haver only one canon, it has many different stories across different regions and mediums. That is the beauty of G1. I really get annoyed when people say (like in the Toys that Made us) that G1 had no canon. I grew up with the comics and that was absolutely a canon that lasted longer than any other G1 "canon". But there was also the G1 cartoon series and Tales, the backcard stories and space for a kid's own imagination as well. Sometimes those themes overlapped and sometimes they didn't. But for me G1 has the most rich and developed 'canon' because it carries so many possibilities, and is not dictated by one overreaching way in which people should view MLP. ON a similar and maybe hypocritical note, I really don't like when people randomly flash in something from the comics as though it speaks for the whole of G1 overall. I'm talking about when people start talking about Majesty in G1 like her comic persona was universal, or the twinkle eye mine incident, and so on. These happened in a locally produced paper comic in the UK in the 1980s and may have gone to Europe as well. They do not define Majesty or the TE ponies for everyone, nor should they, and are often misrepresented anyway. I am all for people engaging with the comics, but actually engage with the comics, not with a social media post you saw that went viral.Saw a YT video one time which talked about the TEs in terms of that comic story. It talked about it like it was accepted canon and misreferenced the comic number. Sigh.On another note - I also like the dollymix, but only the G1 ones.
I get annoyed when people say that older pony fans weren't into or influenced by the cartoons. Please speak for yourself only. Just because YOU were not big on them, and did not have YOUR play influenced by them, does mean the same for others. I love them and my play was influenced by them.
As someone who grew up with G3, I can't remember how I played with my ponies exactly. I had the books, I had all the videos, and I read all the backcards. I don't think anything ultimately influenced my play with the ponies. Ponies like Minty and such I think were influenced in some way, not that it matters, because I didn't play with those! I had a hefty collection and the "cast" of the story changed from time to time. Most of the ponies really do have nothing more than the to-do list on their backcard to go off of, personality-wise.
@LAW - it's all true, but for the most part I would say 75% of discussion on G1 characters centres (when they have them) on how the TV show portrays them.I've experienced the opposite of your frustration...I've been called out a few times for criticising the Quest of the Princess ponies. Honestly, from my UK perspective, there's a sense that the G1 TV show > the comics in people's minds, so I hadn't thought that it could be read the other way around.From the UK perspective it can be very stifling to have this idea of mainstream = US, and that probably makes me personally more resistant to the influence of the G1 series. I don't like having ponies I grew up with called US ponies. It's wearing having to constantly use US and UK names but I don't want to give up the names I grew up with, or the stories either. I'm so tired of having people tell me how things must've been sold in the UK because of what happened in the US, too. So I probably have put distance between myself and the G1 TV series canon because I'm worried about the canon I grew up with being entirely lost or forgotten or just considered a 'novelty'. It often feels like a losing battle to preserve my childhood. While you're right that one person should not speak for the whole community, the fact remains that the US pony lore and pony release years and set names and pony names etc have spoken for the whole of pony for as long as I can remember, and keeping the rest alive is a lot harder work than it should be. There are absolutely no US exclusive ponies - and it would be nice for me personally to see more awareness of that across the community, especially in the ID sites that still persist in using US/other or the US year system for their formatting. And most of all in our very expansive pony lore, the existence of which "The Toys that Made Us" essentially denied by not looking beyond the US.If my comments about the TV series have ever struck a nerve with you, though, it wasn't meant that way
As for an unpopular opinion, I think Majesty is kind of an overrated pony. Her colors are boring, and there's really nothing special about her to the point that she got to be the one that came with the Dream Castle. I'm probably just saying this because my son just loves her and talks about her all the time and it gets old. He has a slight speech impediment and calls her 'Madness-ty', which I find secretly charming.
Quote from: LadyAmalthea on October 18, 2020, 09:00:25 PMAs for an unpopular opinion, I think Majesty is kind of an overrated pony. Her colors are boring, and there's really nothing special about her to the point that she got to be the one that came with the Dream Castle. I'm probably just saying this because my son just loves her and talks about her all the time and it gets old. He has a slight speech impediment and calls her 'Madness-ty', which I find secretly charming. I'm not super big on Majesty myself. I own her and she's fine, but I think I'd like her a lot more if she was in a different pose? I've never liked the Glory post all that much. And she seems to generally be of lower quality compared to most other G1s, being nearly constantly riddled with head body mismatches among other problems. It feels like they skimped on QC with her due to her coming in such a big playset. I like Majesty's color scheme, but I think she'd look better in a different pose, and I wish her quality control was better.
I don't see ponies without brushable hair as "real" MLP and I can't get excited for them.