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Pony Corral / Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
« on: May 07, 2022, 04:46:19 AM »
Not to argue or anything, just curious what you guys think.

What's the difference between a pony using a brush and a pony using a smartphone?
One is an item that has been used for centuries and not only for humans, but also for horses and other animals, it makes sense that a sapient pony would use a brush for personal care even in a fantasy or historical setting. Other is a modern technology item that puts story's technological level somewhere around 2010's + and leads to bunch of questions and implications about the world.

I'm not completely against any "human" elements in stories. I don't think MLP should be only about bridles and saddles. I don't mind ponies going to parties, eating ice cream, using bath etc. What I don't like is when it involves modern technology or modern, urban concepts like ponies working in corporations, factories, ponies living in modern looking cities - I think it just takes away the whole magic of the story.
I think that G4 really pushed the humanization of ponies and G5 is going even further with it.
I'm aware that some elements like this existed even in the early days of MLP,  but I never liked it, I always prefered the idea of ponies being fantasy beings living in a fantasy world.

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Pony Corral / Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
« on: May 06, 2022, 03:32:22 AM »
I don't like when ponies get overly humanized/modernized. That why I never liked Tales and it's one of the reasons why I haven't checked out g5 yet (ponies with smartphones ugh) With this I don't mean that they should be just regular animals either, but I always saw ponies more like fantasy beings with their own way of life not quadrupedal humans.

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Pony Corral / Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
« on: April 11, 2022, 04:53:46 AM »

Unpopular opinion now, maybe? But I don't really like ponies having bridles and saddles.

They're just pointless, really. Related, I was thinking of like a... theory? Lack of a better term? For G1's progress:

Spoiler
Horse phase -> Fantasy phase -> Domestic/Modern Phase

"Horse phase" obviously being the bridles and saddles, but also Megan's inclusion. The stable is also very horsey, but what makes it even MORE horsey are the trough accessories! Early MLP feels like "horses, but what if it was purple?" rather than how we know it today. "Fantasy phase" is the mainstream view of MLP. No need to explain further. Magical little ponies with magical little powers living in castles and going on adventures. "Domestic/Modern Phase" is obviously Tales, but also the shift of the brand entirely. From "magical ponies in castles" to "prom queen ponies" and "house furniture playset and pregnant mom pony". G1 is the most baby-heavy of all the gens, but instead of just "babies" there's an emphasis on "families" like, obviously, the Family sets (Sweet Celebrations, etc) in late-G1. A quick glance at MLW (which I know isn't the authority on MLP history, but it's good enough with something like this), early G1 looks like it's mostly adult ponies with some babies. But by year 7-8, it's halved, with a LOT of baby releases... like half adult ponies, half babies. Of course when I mean family I mean "mom, dad, baby", not "random orphaned baby" and "adult pony with her cloned baby self".

I know G1's progress was just a matter of them refreshing the brand to make it more appealing to its demographic, but it sort of repeats itself with the other gens:

G2: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
G2 started off with basic playsets and themes, went onto the royalty thing, then finished off with a mansion mom and baby playset. The focus on babies as time went on I think also contributes to the "domesticity" of the gen, since if you have babies, you probably will want to roleplay "family" stories. Cooking, school, and gardening playsets as well.

G3: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic/Baby Phase
G3 started off with very simple stories that didn't do much, but A Very Minty Christmas and The Runaway Rainbow gave the ponies more exciting adventures to go on halfway through the gen. Finish off the "Fantasy Phase" with Twinkle Wish Adventure. These ponies are going on adventures across the land and not just planning parties in Ponyville like the Free Media movies. As for "Domesticity", we have the Ponyville playsets-- ponies living in a town, a society, rather than a magical world. Ultimately, the gen wraps up altogether with Newborn Cuties.

Gens seem to have a focus on babies at the end of their run...? Is this a "last ditch effort" to make money? "OK we gotta bring out the big guns, give them babies. Little girls love babies."

G4: Simple Phase -> Fantasy Phase -> Domestic Phase
"Simple Phase" being the "slice of life" early episodes of FiM, "Fantasy Phase" being the more... "geek franchise" later seasons, and "Domestic Phase" being Pony Life. "Modern Phase" also fits Pony Life, just as Tales was G1's "Modern Phase". Although they came before PL, you could throw in a brief "baby phase" with the... 2 sets of baby Mane 6 merch we got...? :lookround: (The 6-pack minifigures and the Pinkie/Twilight dolls)

G5 has just begun but I wonder if we'll see a similar pattern. Maybe Hasbro can shake things up and give us babies right away. ;)


As for saddles... I think they can be done well on a pony. I like how G4 handled saddles, as a fashion thing. A little band on the back with a frilly skirt. I like simple clothes on ponies, not a button-up blouse, pants, and tennis shoes. Anything more *saddley* is pointless as there are no humans, and bridles are ESPECIALLY weird. At least with a saddle you could have a pet ride on your back or something... what's a cat going to do with a bridle? :brow:

I know I'm kinda late to this, but I really liked this analysis and I wanted to add my own take on this.

I think we can explain the the first phase of each generation as them starting it with something that can easily attract a new audience without confusing or alienating it, so they just start with the most basic things - ponies being ponies. That why we get horse themed things like saddles and bridles, and simplistic playsets and storylines.

At second phase they have already attracted the audience and built up more ideas about how ponies and the world that they inhabit function, now they can get more creative with it, that why we get more fantasy themed content.

As the years pass the original audience is growing up and many of them starts to lose interest in MLP. Third phase is an attempt to keep the audience interest and/or to attract a new one, that why they start to go for things that little girls might like (babies, families, cooking, gardening etc.) or contemporary trends in other toylines or media in general.

In conclusion it looks something like this: Basic phase -> Creative phase -> Modern/Domestic phase.
I think this can also (more or less) be applied to other franchises not just MLP.


About G5, I tried to like it, but I just can't. I think that the toys look awful, I can't stand those weird flat face and skinny stretched out bodies. They look like fakies to me.


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Pony Corral / Re: G5 Media News, updated 6/30, Voice cast!
« on: August 13, 2021, 08:32:27 AM »
Honestly, I'm not impressed with this trailer :/ 

First, I don't like that it's a FIM continuation. I feel that FIM has run it's course and should be just put to rest. I wish they would have just started from the beginning like with the other generations.
Also if this is sequel to FIM some things feel really weird, for example the earth ponies reaction to unicorn, I understand that something happened that separated the pony races, but after a series that put an emphasis on how friendship is important it comes of as jarring.

Second, I see people comparing it to FIM, but to me it doesn't feel as MLP movie at all. Although FIM already was different from previous generations it at least had it's own distinctive style, this just looks like a generic animated movie and the jokes doesn't help.

I know I sound extremely negative, but nothing about it peaked my interest, it just felt very bland.

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Adoptables / Re: (Closed) Sleeping Pony Adoptables (PUs 4/15)
« on: April 18, 2021, 05:14:57 PM »
Thank you! It looks lovely!  :lovey:

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Pony Corral / Re: Unpopular Pony Opinions
« on: April 12, 2021, 09:10:21 AM »
My opinion might not be as unpopular, but here I go!

I personally don't hate G4 (I don't hate any of the generations, I think they all have some good parts and bad.), but I'm just tired of it. G4 has been getting way to much attention!

G4 toys are my least favorite. They are just to small and boring. Look how much variety there was in previous generations, different poses and stuff, and now it's just (mostly) the same six characters over and over again.

When it comes to FIM, I don't think it's bad on it's own, I would actually consider it one of the best kid shows of 2010's.
Even though when I look back at it has some dumb episodes and the friendship lessons and befriending everyone philosophy is kinda annoying, I still think that overall it's an okey series
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 My problem with FIM is that I just don't like it as MLP series. I always liked how My Little Pony was whimsical fantasy series where everything could happen. There could be magic, adventures, new places and beings they would meet. There was this sense of wonder. It was this fantasy dream world that was pretty much detached from reality, and didn't needed to be particulary realistic. Now look at FIM, It basically anachronistic ponified earth. Ponified real world places, history and people, popculture references, over the top jokes - it just lacks the charm that the other generations had.

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Introductions / Re: Hello!
« on: April 11, 2021, 12:10:16 PM »
Welcome to the Arena! :happy:

Do you have any favourite ponies? What about other 80s/90s toys or media, any faves? ^.^

Have fun browsing the boards!
Some of my favorite G1 ponies are: Blossom, Applejack, Twilight, Peachy, Lemon Drop, Sundance, Wind Whistler, Galaxy, and for G3 - Skywishes, Star Catcher, Minty, Sweetberry, Chocolate Chipper, Silver Glow etc.

I'm also interested in Care Bears, Strawberry Shortcake, Jem, Rainbow Brite, Transformers, in general anything that catches my eye. I like to follow how these merchandises evolve and change over time, I find it pretty fascinating.

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Morning, evening, or night?: night, please!
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Introductions / Hello!
« on: April 11, 2021, 07:02:10 AM »
Hello!

I have been a MLP fan since childhood. My first introduction to MLP was G3. My favorite generation is tied between G1 and G3.
I'm interested in toys, animation, 80's - 90's media and many other things.
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