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Quote from: Leave a Whisper on July 17, 2023, 07:05:27 PMG3 Big Brothers would have been adorable!The lack of G3 boys is the reason my fave bait Pony is a clone pose earth G3 of five of the Core 7. I take one of them, add Apoxie Sculpt hoof feathers, dye or paint if needed, reroot, add new symbol, redo eyes (single-colour irises), & boom!!! G3 Boy Pony!!!
G3 Big Brothers would have been adorable!
I disagree that Lil Litters etc is like G1.5, it never took over the line like G3.5/G4.5 did. To me it's only a .5 if it's the only thing they're making, otherwise it's just a sideline.I think bronies just... didn't grasp that there were G2 toys, didn't bother to check if there was perhaps a toyline that didn't have a corresponding cartoon, because to them the cartoon was the main thing. I can understand misunderstanding, but that "Tales is G1.5" thing they made up really annoyed me...
I will say, it isn't always bronies, even though we are the worst offenders - I'm sure I remember arguing with someone who had grown up with Tales, and they thought it was G2, but I could be remembering it wrong (and could have said this before)... either way, the world can at least rest easy that at least one brony (me) got the message that Tales is G1.
Quote from: MJNSEIFER on July 17, 2023, 02:40:39 PMI will say, it isn't always bronies, even though we are the worst offenders - I'm sure I remember arguing with someone who had grown up with Tales, and they thought it was G2, but I could be remembering it wrong (and could have said this before)... either way, the world can at least rest easy that at least one brony (me) got the message that Tales is G1. But you would have had that conversation post the beginning of G4, thus that person was probably influenced by the very vocal attempts of bronydom to redefine MLP entirely according to their animation preference. It doesn't matter what gen they grew up with. It matters what influenced them since - and you almost certainly had that discussion in brony space, so that person would've been surrounded by people saying it was G2. Being a brony =/= growing up with G4.The thing is, as I said before, the labels G1 and G2 didn't even exist till G3. LM will confirm it was borrowed from the Transformer community, since old ponies and new ponies couldn't wash when even newer ponies came out in 2003. There was such a consciousness about G1 and G2 being different, that those labels were always collective. The .5 was first in G3, towards the end. Nobody tried to define MLP by animation until bronies happened. Going mildly off topic, but since animation in G1 was basically advertising, I've always wondered about the target audience of the Tales eps. It was undoubtedly made in the US, and aired there - but the content has always raised some eyebrows with me. The ponies play football - which at the time was relatively unknown in the US. It predated the US world cup in 94, even. Maybe it's just easier for them to animate - but they made Clover and Meadowlark dance, so I don't think so! The biggest questionmark for me, though, is when starglow and co appear, they're called 'Glowing Magical Ponies'. In the UK, we call that set Glowing Magic ponies. The US name is Glow & Show. In 1992, Glowing Magic ponies were still in stores in the UK. So were the Rockin' Beats - who are also included in the animation.It's probably impossible to know for sure, but it feels as though the show was made for European or UK release, as the toys in the US weren't continuing.Not a new generation, obviously. But interesting nonetheless.
LOL I just put that bit in spoilers as it is sort of off topic.That is interesting, but it doesn't explain the Glowing Magical ponies...
Quote from: MJNSEIFER on July 17, 2023, 02:40:39 PMI will say, it isn't always bronies, even though we are the worst offenders - I'm sure I remember arguing with someone who had grown up with Tales, and they thought it was G2, but I could be remembering it wrong (and could have said this before)... either way, the world can at least rest easy that at least one brony (me) got the message that Tales is G1. But you would have had that conversation post the beginning of G4, thus that person was probably influenced by the very vocal attempts of bronydom to redefine MLP entirely according to their animation preference. It doesn't matter what gen they grew up with. It matters what influenced them since - and you almost certainly had that discussion in brony space, so that person would've been surrounded by people saying it was G2.Being a brony =/= growing up with G4. It would have been impossible for anyone to pick up that mindset in the older gen community, because of how the G terms came about. Anyone who had been an active older gen fan prior to G4 would also know G2 was an extant toyline, and so wouldn't call Tales G2.
Bronies did take over YT and did target older gen videos and clips for some reason best known only to them.
Quote from: Taffeta on July 19, 2023, 10:41:34 AMBronies did take over YT and did target older gen videos and clips for some reason best known only to them.This is why I took down my videos when I was researching age spots and I did those microscope slides? It was attacked by bronies saying things like "G1 sure is a cancer!" and other uncool things.
G2 ran from 1997-2002 or 2003 iirc. I'm going to sound really old now, but I was online in 1997 (from a library PC), and had internet (dial up!) at home from spring 1998. I was here for the whoooole "new ponies vs old ponies" civil war that blew up around them - newsgroups and mailing lists ahoy. They did have a very short US release run, true enough, but there was definitely internet when G2 were around. And a pony community as well.I don't suppose it was the right kind, but I think anyone old enough to remember that period would probably agree they 'made an impression' of sorts...But reflecting on it now, the ages of many of us back then were comparable to the ages of most bronies now. I was 15 in 1997 - so 16 when the war broke out *lol*. It makes me wonder whether, if the net had been then what it is now, the G2 thing would've exploded much worse than it did. At times it was plenty unpleasant. I wrote this thing back in 2000 because of the online G2 squabbling - G2 were still in stores (at least in Europe) back then.https://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/ponydream.htmIn my personal experience 2000 was a particularly nasty year, but even by that point a couple of sites/people had been driven offline - either because they loved G2 or because they hated G2. :/ I don't remember what the pro G2 people went by, though. I just remember the Shadows and someone circulating an image of Gusty (?) killing a G2 pony which at the time was pretty shocking given the size of the community/etc. (You probably wouldn't even notice one image like that now in a sea of brony art).I also love that spoiler xD.