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Title: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on June 25, 2014, 09:55:55 AM
So I have a SS Cupcake that I've had to deflock since her flocking was terrible and coming off anyway but underneath she has three blue sharpie marks. Unfortunately I'm guessing they have been there a while since they look like they have bled a little. I've put her in oxyclean, tried magic eraser, she's now in the window in the hopes that maybe they will sun-fade out.

I also have some really really sad lil litters that I got off of ebay around 10 years ago that someone put paw cutie marks (a few collars too) on with sharpie. The really sad part is that the entire pink and white nursery family Scrub-a-Dub Spaniels were in this lot and only one of the puppies made it out without getting sharpie marks. :( 

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I am attempting to sunfade the adults and they are now wrapped up and look like mini baked potatoes since I covered them with aluminum foil.

Will sun fading work? Is there anything else I can do? I at one point even painted over the marks on the babies but the paint eventually came off and I didn't match the color very well on some of them.

*bumped over to the corral for you*  :heart: PL



EDIT 11/19/2014: Current Status:

I haven't completely cleaned up the white paint but you can see the dramatic results.

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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: Icecrystalline on June 25, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
To be honest, I don't mean to be a downer, but the puppies look like years of ink staining has occurred, and it would be pretty near impossible to reverse. Sun fading would lighten it, but not necessarily remove it completely. I'd give it a go, but I wouldn't expect complete removal.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on June 25, 2014, 10:36:47 AM
Yup, years and years and years. I don't remember how much bleeding they already had when I got them but I imagine they already had some. One of the interesting things I noticed is that the marks on the pink cat with the white stripes has bled so much that it's almost gone. O.o

I don't have high hopes on getting the marks to go completely away but any sort of improvement would be nice. :)

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Post Merge: June 25, 2014, 10:43:32 AM

I just took a new photo of her. She was one that had a collar. You can just see the shadows of the marks now.

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I guess this weird bleeding/fading gives me some hope.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: Griffin on June 27, 2014, 02:01:56 PM
I'm not an expert when it comes to restoration questions but I'm afraid sunfading may be the only way to go. Sometimes it works wonders, though. I'm actually impressed by the results you already got with the sitting kitty! 

I think I'll bump this over to OT for you, maybe someone over there will be able to offer you further ideas. :)
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: kaoskat on June 27, 2014, 02:05:43 PM
On the contrary I have removed years and years of staining completely with sunfading, but it can take a very long time.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on June 27, 2014, 03:35:43 PM
Doesn't hurt to try!  I'm with KaosKat on this one.  I've put ponies out for years in a window, and they finally sunfaded.  I forgot about one and she spent the winter under the snow!  She sunfaded just fine eventually.  If she lives in the southern US and I'm up here in Canada, and we've had similar results, there isn't much difference for UV concentration for sunfading; sometimes it just takes a much greater period of exposure!  Looks like you are a bit closer to me, but I'd still give it a try despite the tendency to have overcast weather.  Actually sometimes that is better because you can keep a closer eye on them - overdoing them doesn't take long! 
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: Cwk123 on June 30, 2014, 08:46:15 PM
Try Mr. Clean magic eraser...it got sharpie marker off a pony I found at a thrift store once!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 01, 2014, 09:01:02 PM
Ok, so this is kinda amazing. I put these in the window the day or the day after I posted this thread and they've been in the sun maybe a month. I had to pack them up for a move across town. I took them out of their box yesterday and was kinda shocked. Sun fading was the ticket for these and that blasted sharpie.

You won't believe this:

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Isn't that just amazing?!

Remember, this is what they looked like:

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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: kakenterprise on August 01, 2014, 09:04:12 PM
I'm sorry but I had a good laugh, someone loved them enough to give each one a cutie mark.

Glad to see that the sun fading is working!!

Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 01, 2014, 09:09:03 PM
I'm sorry but I had a good laugh, someone loved them enough to give each one a cutie mark.

Glad to see that the sun fading is working!!

Heh, no worries. I like to imagine an adult let their kid play with them and caught them in mid-cutie mark creation since there were a few that didn't get marked. Can you imagine? lol
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: kakenterprise on August 01, 2014, 09:20:39 PM
I can definitely see that and at least they weren't tossed!!

I was never that way with toys but my mom left the address book out when I was little.  I took a pen to every page I could ... :biggrin:
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on August 01, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
That's pretty awesome! Will you keep going with them? I've had a sharpied Gusty in the window for about 2?weeks now and I definitely see some fading and also whitening going on. Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: otocolobus_manul on August 01, 2014, 09:27:49 PM
A while back I got a baby Honoloulou who'd been badly marked up by ballpoint pen. My usual methods did nothing, but the pen came almost clean off after i used clearisil and left her in the sun for a few hours. I'm not sure how well it would work on flocking, but maybe you could look it up or try?
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 01, 2014, 10:25:34 PM
That's pretty awesome! Will you keep going with them? I've had a sharpied Gusty in the window for about 2?weeks now and I definitely see some fading and also whitening going on. Here's hoping!

I'm going to try to get it all to fade out. :) Good luck with Gusty, she's one of my all time favorites. Feel free to post photos if you like. :)
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on August 02, 2014, 05:18:13 AM
That's pretty awesome! Will you keep going with them? I've had a sharpied Gusty in the window for about 2?weeks now and I definitely see some fading and also whitening going on. Here's hoping!

I'm going to try to get it all to fade out. :) Good luck with Gusty, she's one of my all time favorites. Feel free to post photos if you like. :)

Thank you I will! I took a before shot and she looks all scary with her painted symbols, eyes, and cheeks :) she is one of my faves as well!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 02, 2014, 10:51:35 AM
Here's a couple photos of poor SS Cupcake with her blue sharpie marks. Her flocking was so bad when I got her that it basically just wiped off when I tried to clean her up, so she's basically deflocked now. At least she's still gorgeous. I seem to have not taken any photos of her marks after the flocking came off but the marks were very obvious.

Before & Current:

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The photo makes it looks like all the blue sharpie is gone but there is still a shadow. If you're wondering, the pony was wrapped with paper towel and then foil.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on August 02, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
A while back I got a baby Honoloulou who'd been badly marked up by ballpoint pen. My usual methods did nothing, but the pen came almost clean off after i used clearisil and left her in the sun for a few hours. I'm not sure how well it would work on flocking, but maybe you could look it up or try?

Be careful when you do this - over the next ten years, that Clearisil will keep working into the plastic and lightening it!  Or browning it with white ponies...  Sunfading for several months is the best way to go with pen. 

Oh and  telelle_wings, that Cupcake turned out so nicely!  Can we see her unwrapped and deflocked?
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: otocolobus_manul on August 02, 2014, 11:18:12 AM
A while back I got a baby Honoloulou who'd been badly marked up by ballpoint pen. My usual methods did nothing, but the pen came almost clean off after i used clearisil and left her in the sun for a few hours. I'm not sure how well it would work on flocking, but maybe you could look it up or try?

Be careful when you do this - over the next ten years, that Clearisil will keep working into the plastic and lightening it!  Or browning it with white ponies...  Sunfading for several months is the best way to go with pen. 

Unfortunately, I don't have several months worth of patience, so I guess I'll have to take that risk xD
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 02, 2014, 11:45:26 AM

Oh and  telelle_wings, that Cupcake turned out so nicely!  Can we see her unwrapped and deflocked?

Heh, well, she's currently still wrapped up and her head is kinda hanging out next to my desk. I want to give her a little more time to see if I can get the blue shadows to go away fully but here's a photo of her head. lololol I wasn't sure I was going to keep her or sell her so I haven't bothered cleaning up the residual glue, so that's what the yellow stuff is if it shows up in the photo. Otherwise she's just stunning, blush is lovely, and her hair is actually pretty nice once it was cleaned. The weird pink glow is from the lamp I was using to take the photo, so no, half of her face isn't all pink. :p

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Oh, since I seem to be having good luck with the sharpie problem I'm thinking about putting Gypsy out there also to see if I can get these two little marks off. Is there anything special I should know about orange ponies or Gypsy specifically when sunfading?

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Post Merge: August 02, 2014, 12:30:44 PM

Well, I decided to unwrap her and see how it looks in general. You encouraged me. :)

Anyway, this is how she currently looks:

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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on August 03, 2014, 06:07:08 AM
Wow she looks amazing!!!!!!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: hathorcat on August 03, 2014, 07:08:14 AM
She looks fantastic! Some amazing work :)
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 03, 2014, 10:05:27 AM
Thank you! I think she's quite lovely so I'll probably keep her and see about removing the last layer of flocking glue. She does need a wee bit more sun to get the shadows out and I'll def. post a photo of her when she's totally finished. :)

I'm kinda getting addicted to this sun-fading thing. It requires very little effort.  :lol: Maybe I'll be more likely to buy ponies with ink and sharpie issues now.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: FantasticFirefly on August 03, 2014, 10:33:03 AM
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Unfortunately, I don't have several months worth of patience, so I guess I'll have to take that risk xD

In the end everyone can use their own preferred methods on their ponies but please never sell any that have had the same treatment without clearly stating what was done. :)

Bought an "amazing WJ". She was lovely, and did this on me within a couple weeks. :( Thanks for telling me you used remove-zit or acne cream seller.
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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: otocolobus_manul on August 03, 2014, 10:55:59 AM
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Unfortunately, I don't have several months worth of patience, so I guess I'll have to take that risk xD

In the end everyone can use their own preferred methods on their ponies but please never sell any that have had the same treatment without clearly stating what was done. :)

Bought an "amazing WJ". She was lovely, and did this on me within a couple weeks. :( Thanks for telling me you used remove-zit or acne cream seller.
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Ooh, I'll definitely remember that in case I sell her. Thank you!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 03, 2014, 02:11:55 PM

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That is so sad. omg :(
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on August 03, 2014, 03:23:57 PM
Oh no that IS very very sad :(
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: FantasticFirefly on August 03, 2014, 04:08:30 PM
it was.... less then stellar pony flipper. The white started as a line and slowly spread out. faint traces of a mark (red ballpoint I'm guessing), where the line started. She would have been a stunner otherwise, clean body, clean inside, factory seal, pink hair. I'd have rather had the mark!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: hathorcat on August 04, 2014, 01:12:34 PM
:(

Remove zit is evil. I ll try just about on ponies I am keeping to experiment on but the one thing I would shout from the rooftops and tell people not to touch is benzyl peroxide.

I agree with FantasticFirefly, if you use any kind of chemical treatment, it really should be disclosed at the point of purchase.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 05, 2014, 04:30:36 PM
Here is my group of ponies & kitties/puppies all sun bathing. On the right are the baby kitties and puppies as well as the adults & Cupcake's torso that got sharpied. There is also Butterscotch's torso and Masquerade's head - I'm attempting to fade them. Kinda morbid.  :lol:

On the left I've got Masquerade's torso with a lovely pink highlighter line down half of her body (I think it's coming out), Gingerbread (yes you read that right, I am crazy but I check her everyday and she hasn't started to burn yet, I have another thread about sun-fading her as well as Cherry Treats), Merry Treat (somehow she got a couple large red ink smudged the size of my thumb on both of her sides and those are almost completely gone, and has a 'pink highlighter' mark, except I doubt that's highlighter and probably what? regrind? I have no idea), and finally Tuneful's head (attempting to fade).

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I put them on things to keep them off of the very hot concrete.

I think Masquerade is rather creepy looking but I want to fix her up before I sell her. Here's what she looked like before I started sunfading her head and sunfading the mark off.

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"Oh, I'm sorry, this isn't the exorcist?"

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Yah, her pink marks are definitely coming out.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: Gizmo on August 05, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Sorry if this was already discussed but how do you remove the white out later?

Amazing progress btw, really looking forward to seeing them all done!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 05, 2014, 07:24:38 PM
Sorry if this was already discussed but how do you remove the white out later?

Amazing progress btw, really looking forward to seeing them all done!

It's not white-out, it's regular craft acrylic paint. It comes right off with rubbing alcohol and very light rubbing. It doesn't hurt the normal pony paint.

Post Merge: August 05, 2014, 07:38:53 PM

So, I think my Merry Treats is trying to sunburn. On her face, the part that doesn't face the sun full on. What?

>.<

Everything was going so well too. I've heard some people give sun burnt ponies a bath in hydrogen peroxide? and it can help remove the burn? I'm not sure I have that right. Any thoughts?

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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: ponyqueen on August 06, 2014, 05:45:28 AM
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Unfortunately, I don't have several months worth of patience, so I guess I'll have to take that risk xD

In the end everyone can use their own preferred methods on their ponies but please never sell any that have had the same treatment without clearly stating what was done. :)

Bought an "amazing WJ". She was lovely, and did this on me within a couple weeks. :( Thanks for telling me you used remove-zit or acne cream seller.

Super bummer! Can you re-dye her?
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on August 06, 2014, 09:08:48 AM

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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: FantasticFirefly on August 06, 2014, 10:09:56 AM
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Unfortunately, I don't have several months worth of patience, so I guess I'll have to take that risk xD

In the end everyone can use their own preferred methods on their ponies but please never sell any that have had the same treatment without clearly stating what was done. :)

Bought an "amazing WJ". She was lovely, and did this on me within a couple weeks. :( Thanks for telling me you used remove-zit or acne cream seller.

Super bummer! Can you re-dye her?

I did look that up.
Doll collectors had issues with these treatments too. Damages mod barbie dolls in the same way.  Apparently you can re-tint with special artists markers, and they do have a shade that should closely match- BUT the product residues inside the vinyl will still fade that out too eventually. According to the barbie community there was no permanent solution. I had kept her all these years hoping I'd find another WJ with a good body, but a head that was messed up in some way. Her hair is just so perfect, like silk and that is original. I had needed a good body. She likely found a new home though, I hope if she sells that her new owner finds a good body for her.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on November 19, 2014, 05:29:20 PM
I've posted an update for the lil litters babies. I've included a current photo in the original post! The results are dramatic!

I stopped the sunfading because of what is happening with the striped cats. The pink color is obviously changing too much and the white one the purple stripe that was exposed to the sun has turned light blue. O.o
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on November 19, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
I've been meaning to post these update pics too for all interested. Beautiful white Gusty, no more Sharpie! Also the acrylic did no damage to her glitter symbols (I just used a warm washcloth to remove it).

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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: Chi on November 19, 2014, 06:09:43 PM
Sunfading with and without peroxide is a miracle! Saved many of my ponies from things I thought would be their doom..and have whitened even the most beige of them. :D
(Or hot pink in the case of a saddle/accessory stain.....who puts hot pink boots with a hot pink saddle on a pony?!?!? :cry: )
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on November 19, 2014, 10:50:02 PM
Also the acrylic did no damage to her glitter symbols (I just used a warm washcloth to remove it).


Wow! You are brave. :D

I am ashamed to say that I messed up beautiful Cupcake. :/ She's now got a couple lovely little circles of sunburn where I tried to "get the last bits" of sharpie. I'll post her tomorrow it I remember. I figured I should probably admit to my failures as well as the successes.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: h1m3. on November 20, 2014, 02:23:01 AM
 :yippee: Hey question :3 what do put on their eyes, cutie marks etc. (like in the pictures) to prevent them fading?
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on November 20, 2014, 04:12:06 AM
Also the acrylic did no damage to her glitter symbols (I just used a warm washcloth to remove it).


Wow! You are brave. :D

I am ashamed to say that I messed up beautiful Cupcake. :/ She's now got a couple lovely little circles of sunburn where I tried to "get the last bits" of sharpie. I'll post her tomorrow it I remember. I figured I should probably admit to my failures as well as the successes.

Well i figured she was pretty baity anyways so if her symbols did come off I would just re glitter them. You can see there's still the faintest bit of sharpie still visible in her but I figured she was so improved I should quit while I was ahead!!!!! I would love to see your pics! I currently have a pretty baity Glory in my window :)

h1m3. - It's acrylic paint (from a craft store) that's used over their eyes / cheeks / marks but use caution and do your research first because some ponies / symbols can be damaged by it.

Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on November 20, 2014, 09:55:49 AM
Gusty is one of my all time favorites and she just looks so much better it makes me all warm and fuzzy.  :lol:

I'll post Cupcake soon. I have to run an errand this morning but when I get back I'll post her.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on November 20, 2014, 10:20:36 AM
 :)  :) She is very loved and I am so happy I was able to breathe new life into her! She's such a gorgeous pony!

Awesome can't wait!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on November 20, 2014, 12:31:53 PM
Here we go. She's got 5 little circles of burn to the left of the cupcake symbols. But, the blue sharpie marks are all gone.  :lol:  :huh:

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Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on November 20, 2014, 01:39:03 PM
Oh dear that's unfortunate. I had no idea they could burn. I wonder what happened? Did this happen through the paper towel/tinfoil cover you had over her?? Update on Merry Treats and the rest of the ponies? Masquerade looks amazing!
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: telelle_wings on November 20, 2014, 02:32:01 PM
Oh dear that's unfortunate. I had no idea they could burn. I wonder what happened? Did this happen through the paper towel/tinfoil cover you had over her?? Update on Merry Treats and the rest of the ponies? Masquerade looks amazing!

I had her all covered up with paper towel and then on top of that I had foil. The burn didn't happen through the paper, the paper was actually the only thing surrounding those circles. The circles were where the blue sharpie was. She looked just fine last time I posted her photo but I could still see a slight blue shadow and thought I could take care of that... And then she burned right on those spots.
Title: Re: Restoration Problem: Sharpie
Post by: SpookyTrees on November 20, 2014, 09:03:57 PM
Gotcha I was trying to see if the burns lined up with the blue spots but it was hard to tell. She still looks lovely though!!!!!
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