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Part of it isn't Hasbro, but a societal shift where kids get out of toys faster and instead do online stuff. I was setting up at a toy show and this little girl who was 8 or 9 (a kid of one of the other vendors) looked at my booth and said "You have cool stuff!" Then she said, "I'm not buying anything at the toy show, though. I'm saving up all my money for Roblox."Roblox do have play value, my understanding is they're kind of like online Legos? So, yeah, that's still imaginative play. But still . . . dang . . . But yeah, investing money into quality toys is a better long term strategy, since the kids playing with toys will someday grow up and you want them to be nostalgic about your company in general and the toy in particular. G4's increasingly crappy hair was soooo frustrating to me. G5 is a mixed bag, the 6" figures (like the Target exclusive set) have incredible hair but some of the smaller brushables have bad hair. Personally I don't mind the molded hair, but I do prefer that a pony either have all molded hair or all brushable.A baffling (but welcome) Hasbro decision was dropping the Mane Six for G5. They didn't even go with the low-hanging fruit of "The new ponies are the children of the Mane Six," instead it's this grim dystopian future where the Mane Six failed and are all presumably dead. It's sooo funny and probably my favorite way they could possibly have kept a connection to G4. Anyway, the surprising part is that they would sideline the Mane Six since Hasbro has been trying to establish a core cast of widely recognizable ponies for SO long (since MLP Tales) and had finally achieved it. Through cultural osmosis, even people who weren't into ponies knew names like "Fluttershy" and "Twilight Sparkle". The early leaked concept art for G5 showed exactly what I expected: the same six ponies, rebooted in a new universe with some minor cosmetic changes. But then Hasbro punted them to the side in favor of a new cast. I can only speculate that Hasbro wanted to leave the whole "brony" thing behind them and thought the best way to do this was to pivot away from the G4 cast. And it worked, most bronies seem to hate (or at least be annoyed by) G5. This makes me even more enthusiastic about the new generation, lol.
Other than what has already been mentioned here, Sea Ponies.I like Sea Ponies, but a vinyl bath toy with a metal weight inside? That's just asking for mould and rust. Their manes are also going to get all nasty in that bath water.To be fair, bath toys made out of materials that are prone to moulding are not new; mould accumulating in or on the outside of bath toys (especially the former) is actually pretty common. Neverthless, it's very unfortunate.
And that's just looking at it from a personal viewpoint. We NEED things to last, be collected & collectable, be able to be passed down to the next generation, to be easily fixable, for the simple reason the longer a toy is being loved, the more we get out of it AND the less likely it ends up being trashed. And the LAST thing the environment needs is stuff being trashed!!!
Quote from: Ponybookworm on October 17, 2023, 05:05:23 AMAnd that's just looking at it from a personal viewpoint. We NEED things to last, be collected & collectable, be able to be passed down to the next generation, to be easily fixable, for the simple reason the longer a toy is being loved, the more we get out of it AND the less likely it ends up being trashed. And the LAST thing the environment needs is stuff being trashed!!!this reminds me of the similar argument for clothes tbh. like, natural materials are great and renewable, but a lot of them just don't last very well, so it's about finding a balance with synthetic fibres which, yes, they're overglorified plastic, but you only have to create the emissions of making them once, and they very well may last several decades/generations. i think it's the same for toys. plastic isn't as terrible and evil as people say if they're being made to last (ie look how well g2s are still doing!), but they're just not anymore
this reminds me of the similar argument for clothes tbh. like, natural materials are great and renewable, but a lot of them just don't last very well, so it's about finding a balance with synthetic fibres which, yes, they're overglorified plastic, but you only have to create the emissions of making them once, and they very well may last several decades/generations. i think it's the same for toys. plastic isn't as terrible and evil as people say if they're being made to last (ie look how well g2s are still doing!), but they're just not anymore
Quote from: SunbeamV on October 19, 2023, 08:39:57 PMthis reminds me of the similar argument for clothes tbh. like, natural materials are great and renewable, but a lot of them just don't last very well, so it's about finding a balance with synthetic fibres which, yes, they're overglorified plastic, but you only have to create the emissions of making them once, and they very well may last several decades/generations. i think it's the same for toys. plastic isn't as terrible and evil as people say if they're being made to last (ie look how well g2s are still doing!), but they're just not anymore Yeah, but with clothes there's also the question of fashion. Most people are not going to wear bell bottoms from the 70s, the wide-shouldered women's power suits of the 80s, or the godawful fashions of the early 2000s in the modern day regardless of how well the clothing are made in a technical sense. Make them of natural fibers and let them decay, I don't want to look at them lol.
Yeah, but with clothes there's also the question of fashion. Most people are not going to wear bell bottoms from the 70s, the wide-shouldered women's power suits of the 80s, or the godawful fashions of the early 2000s in the modern day regardless of how well the clothing are made in a technical sense. Make them of natural fibers and let them decay, I don't want to look at them lol.
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on October 20, 2023, 11:16:19 AMYeah, but with clothes there's also the question of fashion. Most people are not going to wear bell bottoms from the 70s, the wide-shouldered women's power suits of the 80s, or the godawful fashions of the early 2000s in the modern day regardless of how well the clothing are made in a technical sense. Make them of natural fibers and let them decay, I don't want to look at them lol.i am! i'm going to wear bell bottoms and 80s shoulder pads. i love that stuff. if they lasted this long give them to me
A baffling (but welcome) Hasbro decision was dropping the Mane Six for G5. They didn't even go with the low-hanging fruit of "The new ponies are the children of the Mane Six," instead it's this grim dystopian future where the Mane Six failed and are all presumably dead. It's sooo funny and probably my favorite way they could possibly have kept a connection to G4. Anyway, the surprising part is that they would sideline the Mane Six since Hasbro has been trying to establish a core cast of widely recognizable ponies for SO long (since MLP Tales) and had finally achieved it. Through cultural osmosis, even people who weren't into ponies knew names like "Fluttershy" and "Twilight Sparkle". The early leaked concept art for G5 showed exactly what I expected: the same six ponies, rebooted in a new universe with some minor cosmetic changes. But then Hasbro punted them to the side in favor of a new cast. I can only speculate that Hasbro wanted to leave the whole "brony" thing behind them and thought the best way to do this was to pivot away from the G4 cast. And it worked, most bronies seem to hate (or at least be annoyed by) G5. This makes me even more enthusiastic about the new generation, lol.
Most people are not going to wear bell bottoms from the 70s
Quote from: LadyMoondancer on October 17, 2023, 07:29:15 AMA baffling (but welcome) Hasbro decision was dropping the Mane Six for G5. They didn't even go with the low-hanging fruit of "The new ponies are the children of the Mane Six," instead it's this grim dystopian future where the Mane Six failed and are all presumably dead. It's sooo funny and probably my favorite way they could possibly have kept a connection to G4. Anyway, the surprising part is that they would sideline the Mane Six since Hasbro has been trying to establish a core cast of widely recognizable ponies for SO long (since MLP Tales) and had finally achieved it. Through cultural osmosis, even people who weren't into ponies knew names like "Fluttershy" and "Twilight Sparkle". The early leaked concept art for G5 showed exactly what I expected: the same six ponies, rebooted in a new universe with some minor cosmetic changes. But then Hasbro punted them to the side in favor of a new cast. I can only speculate that Hasbro wanted to leave the whole "brony" thing behind them and thought the best way to do this was to pivot away from the G4 cast. And it worked, most bronies seem to hate (or at least be annoyed by) G5. This makes me even more enthusiastic about the new generation, lol.They lost rightshttps://nitter.cz/TorpyPony/status/1716027649414304013