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Pony Corral / Re: FiM Finale: The Ending of the End/The Last Problem
« on: October 16, 2019, 12:35:37 PM »
Appledash and Fluttercord were both planned to be canon according to the new leaks.
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Judging by their role in the final episode (and the obviously deliberate wording of their introduction in the epilogue), I'm honestly not surprised (assuming you've read the Eliza Hart treatment for the final episode also included within the leaks, the ending line with Twilight admitting that the entire coronation was a ****show was also a highlight).

Spoiler
On a related note, the leaks themselves are fascinating stuff - one could easily write an entire 'art of' book on FiM and then some with it, particularly in light of the uber-detailed animation revision notes and the plethora of premises (particularly for seasons 4 and 5 - I assume you've uncovered the various early incarnations of the 100th episode (including that document with the Doctor Whooves scene's DW references turned up to eleven), the rejected season 3 episode where Twilight temporarily assumes Mayor Mare's position, the infamous canned deer episode from season 1 and the entire rejected first draft for that Legally Blonde parody with Rarity M.A Larson referenced way back in 2015?) and drafts (the first draft of the season 3 finale in particular is shockingly different, particular Steven Magnet's climatic verse). Although I haven't downloaded them myself (a contact sent a number of screenshots depicting the material they found most noteworthy to me), they were a fascinating read and it's compelling being in a position to view documents which accurately reflect the undiluted 'styles' of the show's crew - note that the Faust-era writers seem to have a more lighthearted energy about their work, whereas the style of the documents' text noticeably changes upon Haber and co. assuming the reins into a more sardonic style, basically reflecting the show's shift in tone at large.

I'm lost, what was the deer episode?

"Fancy Meeting You Deer", an episode Lauren Faust attempted to produce during season 1 involving Twilight, Dash, Pinkie and Applejack heading into the Whitetail Woods (the woods seen in "Fall Weather Friends") to retrieve a plant necessary to cure an ailing Spike from an indigenous deer tribe (who are ambiguously patterned after the Native Americans of the northern USA). The episode basically then diverges into a conflict regarding the four meeting a young colt named 'Shambi' (subtle Disney reference this ain't) who believes himself to be a deer (due to being raised by the tribe from childhood) yet cannot (due to his physical differences) pass the tribe's coming-of-age initiation and the evident 'desirable truth vs. undesirable lies' conflict ensues from there. As the leaks reveal, a full outline was written by Dave Polsky (the guy behind "Feeling Pinkie Keen" and "Rarity Takes Manehattan"), yet the episode was never put into production beyond that.

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Pony Corral / Re: FiM Finale: The Ending of the End/The Last Problem
« on: October 16, 2019, 09:48:24 AM »
Appledash and Fluttercord were both planned to be canon according to the new leaks.
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Judging by their role in the final episode (and the obviously deliberate wording of their introduction in the epilogue), I'm honestly not surprised (assuming you've read the Eliza Hart treatment for the final episode also included within the leaks, the ending line with Twilight admitting that the entire coronation was a ****show was also a highlight).

Spoiler
On a related note, the leaks themselves are fascinating stuff - one could easily write an entire 'art of' book on FiM and then some with it, particularly in light of the uber-detailed animation revision notes and the plethora of premises (particularly for seasons 4 and 5 - I assume you've uncovered the various early incarnations of the 100th episode (including that document with the Doctor Whooves scene's DW references turned up to eleven), the rejected season 3 episode where Twilight temporarily assumes Mayor Mare's position, the infamous canned deer episode from season 1 and the entire rejected first draft for that Legally Blonde parody with Rarity M.A Larson referenced way back in 2015?) and drafts (the first draft of the season 3 finale in particular is shockingly different, particular Steven Magnet's climatic verse). Although I haven't downloaded them myself (a contact sent a number of screenshots depicting the material they found most noteworthy to me), they were a fascinating read and it's compelling being in a position to view documents which accurately reflect the undiluted 'styles' of the show's crew - note that the Faust-era writers seem to have a more lighthearted energy about their work, whereas the style of the documents' text noticeably changes upon Haber and co. assuming the reins into a more sardonic style, basically reflecting the show's shift in tone at large.

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Pony Corral / Re: FiM Finale: The Ending of the End/The Last Problem
« on: October 15, 2019, 11:26:12 PM »
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Finally reserved the time to watch the final triad of episodes and, from the outset, The Ending of the End was fundamentally pretty awful stuff. While I was kind of touched by the entire ancillary cast conglomerating in the final scenes to defeat the villain trio, Twilight's composure only 8-9 episodes following her meme face-laden trivia breakdown was definitely challenging to buy as a result (telling us a character is grown is not equivalent to actually showing they have, but I guess the writers preferred to squeeze more drops of blood from the bag of cliched sitcom humor), several vital scenes fell surprisingly flat (even Starlight's battle with Chrysalis seemed desperate in a way (particularly considering her minor role in the remainder of the plot), as if the writers were scanning a checklist and inserting the bulk of its criteria onto the screen whether it benefited the story/made coherent sense or otherwise) and the entire experience (save for aspects of the climax) simply exuded a weirdly empty air to me, which I assume can be chalked up to the cliched nature of the plot and latter-day FiM's typical brand of obtrusive and overly basic comedy (digging the viewer in the ribs to laugh at a meme face simply because it's a wacky expression/weird is not really effective (or well thought-out) comedy, particularly when the earlier seasons actually offered a variety of well-structured jokes as opposed to dumb material - bizarre one-liners and obvious attempts at manufacturing fandom memes included -  which give the episode an air of a semi-self parody (or, more plausibly, Josh Haber and co. simply writing the script on autopilot).
The Last Problem was merely pleasantly forgettable. The plot was reasonable for a final episode, yet it (subjectively) simply wasn't successfully funny enough to work for me. It was also kind of insidious how the show's crew spent six years continually reassuring the fandom that Twilight wouldn't become immortal and outlive her friends before blatantly contradicting this in the final episode of the run. I sense it may be emblematic of the brony fandom and staff's relationship as a whole in a way.

With FiM concluded, I can only concur that it finished in a worse position than it started - from what I've gathered, the later episodes seem to be more popular with fans over on the major brony sites (primarily for having 'more meat and substance' and 'more introspective dialogue' than the earlier seasons, yet I would argue that the Faust-run seasons are far more consistent and well-written in that they actually commit to conveying (mostly) solid narratives with a unique personal touch and utilize dialogue/comedy in more effective ways (for some reason, the use of dialogue in the Haber-edited episodes (seasons 6 and end of 7 onwards) always felt overly expository/lazy to me, as if to create the illusion that something more complex was occurring on-screen than the reality) than their successors, which enables individual episodes to work better as an entire narrative as opposed to being 'the one where Rarity shreds with the guitar' or 'the one with Twilight pulling the uncanny 'pudding' face'.

Final season ranking: 2>1>4>3>5>7>8>9>6
Top 5 (decreasing order): Lesson Zero, Hurricane Fluttershy, The Best Night Ever, It's About Time, The Return of Harmony
Bottom 5 (decreasing order): Hard to Say Anything, What About Discord?, Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?, 28 Pranks Later, Non-Compete Clause

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Pony Corral / FiM Finale: The Ending of the End/The Last Problem
« on: October 12, 2019, 02:57:16 PM »
First, I should probably commend the FiM staff for the excellent and insightful titles for these concluding episodes. They may have stayed awake the entire final night of production to decide on them, but it was worth it...

On a semi-related note, well... here we are. It's the end of the road for the main driving force of this generation and, while easily the most concerning for MLP as an actual toyline, the show in itself, whilst not exactly consistent, has definitely been a fun and unique ride (even disregarding the infamous alicorn Twilight and EQG conflicts back during the peak of the bronydom) - I'll always have those memories of the late FiM discussion board, the incongruous TaoBao leaks and, of course, the all-consuming ubiquity of the Pinkies to look back on.

Okay, now that we've wrapped up, where's that 100,000-piece Princess Apple Sweetie Sparkle Cutie Dazzle from Outer Mongolia I've been waiting for all these years? That tear vial is clearly becoming a worthwhile investment at this point.

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Pony Corral / Re: "A Trivial Pursuit" FiM Episode
« on: August 27, 2019, 01:21:58 AM »
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This was... not a good experience.
During my recent hiatus from this place, I attempted to marathon the entirety of FiM chronologically and eventually came... to this episode, which essentially epitomizes every major issue with the later seasons; most notably the duller character interactions and multiple contrivances being pulled out to reach the obviously telegraphed climatic moral. The earlier seasons featured poorly-written and contrived episodes to an extent as well, but there was typically a sense that they were trying to accomplish something of value and many more episodes achieved higher highs by mining surprisingly subtlety and complexity out of simple, shopworn plots, whilst the seasons beyond 3 tend to overreach into 'intricacy' and instead deliver extremely simplified versions of conceptually complex plots where every point feels weirdly telegraphed to carry the narrative. It doesn't feel like the kind of priority that fits FiM's mechanics that well, personally, and the recent episodes where the crew lean into more comedic territory exude more an air of just throwing in some wacky faces (or obvious attempts to manufacture brony memes), references and scenes of characters loudly and awkwardly freaking out and calling it a day (remember when episodes featured jokes with more actual variety?). It also doesn't help that the comedy barely feels natural anymore, which is kind of detrimental to plots such as this - because most of FiM's jokes now stems from characters overreacting in an obvious and unrealistic manner, the more grounded aspects of the earlier comedic episodes have been shed in favor of a more artificial and emptily jokey air in a way that reminds me more of a awkward ripoff of a Friends-esque sitcom than FiM (notice how Pinkie was basically shoehorned into the role of the 'annoying airheaded friend' in a way that felt pretty similar to this?). I guess I just don't come to FiM to watch a bad sitcom, and this episode irked me as a result.

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Wanted! / Re: Looking for G1 My Little Pony comics
« on: September 13, 2018, 12:00:05 AM »
It’s been a while since I checked, but I definitely have (for potential sale/trade):
35, 97, 144, 145, 149, 175 (three words for ya: GIANT PINK CLOUD), 205, 211, 215, 219 and 220.

As for my own collection, I am searching for (maybe to trade):
156, 158-162, 167, 177, 183, 193, 195, 197, 199, 208, 210, 213, 214 and 222 from the original run and 7-17 (I mourn my lack of pancake-fueled Baby Lickety-Split clones), 25-29, 35, 36, 47, 49 and 50 from MLP and Friends. Poster magazines (the two for the nursery and Paradise Estate) are also appreciated.

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Pony Corral / Re: Help with Yellow Moondancer
« on: July 26, 2018, 09:30:25 AM »
That is a fairly staunch difference.
(Sorry, I'm covering for an accidental post here).

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Pony Corral / Re: Help with Yellow Moondancer
« on: July 26, 2018, 03:37:58 AM »
Yes. Like cheese.
If the moon weren't idiomatically made of 'green' and not yellow cheese, then I swear there would be a bizarre coincidence in here somewhere.

But yes, judging by photographs I've seen, yellow Moondancer is a more saturated pastel yellow (think Posey (or Swirly Whirly/Butter Kiss), as LM mentioned) than the 'dirty off-cream' of a yellowed Moondancer. Assuming that the OP has photographs, it should be fairly simple to judge prior to receiving it in the vinyl.

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Pony Corral / Re: My Little Pony n Friends Animation Errors
« on: June 27, 2018, 08:53:32 AM »
How to promote the whole range of the Flutter Ponies in a few seconds of animation. It's Lily...no it's Peach Blossom...no, Honeysuckle...gotta catch em all!
I'm honestly surprised that no user here has mentioned 'The Ice Cream Wars' yet in this regard - even as a kid, the most entertaining part of the (otherwise pretty malaise) episode was watching as the four First Tooth babies suddenly changed to five (with Baby Bouncy randomly teleporting into the scenery for no apparent reason), then back to four (with Baby Quackers abruptly transfigured into Baby Tic Tac Toe), then all six suddenly being present during the climax. It's such a conspicuous error, and what mystifies me a greater deal is how one explains this. Yes, the relatively uniform pony character models would certainly have played a role in the 'transfiguration', but the number of characters suddenly shifting between scenes (translation errors/miscommunication on Sunbow's part leading to AKOM botching several key details)?

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Pony Corral / Re: If other Tales Characters had been made?
« on: May 14, 2018, 09:32:10 AM »
Here are a few photos of my own examples from 2013 uploaded onto my old website:
https://everythingdreamer.wordpress.com/my-little-pony-g1-comics/g1-comic-photos/
Green/playing card-symbolled Ace is on Heck Yeah Pony Scans somewhere. I actually own the issue now, but LM's scans are far better quality than my own could ever hope to be.

Interestingly, I also recall one issue (I thiiink MLP and Friends 45) featured a story with JAL and TAL where Ting-A-Ling with renamed Ding-A-Ling and confirmed to be male. Weren't they both female in the show? It's not as if their gender is overtly shown, but their voices sound pretty feminine to me.

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Pony Corral / Re: If other Tales Characters had been made?
« on: May 14, 2018, 08:42:44 AM »
I'd personally prefer Jing-A-Ling and Ting-A-Ling in baby pony moulds. The Tales show (and also several of the UK comics they featured in) seem to depict them as being approximately the same age as the babies we see in MLP and Friends (3-6), so it would probably be a more accurate call.

Yeah, it's a colossal shame that Hasbro never capitalized on the Tales show all that much. It leaves me to wonder if they would have done so more had G1 not imploded around the time of its original airdate, but then again, they had the 1994 line to do so but never did, instead filling it with weird experimental stuff like the nurse ponies and the Majestyism heresy known as the Surprise Twins pony (which is weird considering that many of the show's secondaries, particular the boys and Miss Hackney, were given major exposure as if the writers intended Hasbro to produce them; similar with the Schoolhouse, the clubhouse and the ice cream shop (which was given a name in the comics, further reinforcing this)). A few prototypes of maybe the potential playsets might have been planned, but unfortunately never saw the light of day. I admit that I did email Bridge Direct/Basic Fun about producing the Tales girls and Teddy, Ace and Lancer (even attaching JPGs of them as models to consult) but I never received a reply. Ah well. I live in hope.

Also, I assumed you've heard about the funky colouration of the boys and Miss Hackney in the UK comics (obviously a product of an age where the web was still a government curiosity)? Now a green Ace with a red mane and a playing card symbol, that would create one interesting toy.

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Pony Corral / Re: G1 Media Retrospective: Rescue At Midnight Castle
« on: March 12, 2018, 11:28:51 PM »
Let us not forget that Tirac threatened to kill Scorpan. "If you fail, a head will roll - yours!"
Actually, Tirac's actual line was "and if you fail, Scorpan, a head will roll...HIS!" gesturing to Spike. Technically, Tirac was threatening to decapitate Spike and not Scorpan. Admittedly still extremely brutal for a kid's TV special (although this was the 80s, the weird time where censors didn't allow specific violence yet but it was perfectly fine to obviously imply that a demonic centaur was willing to decapitate a baby dragon under specific circumstance.

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Pony Corral / Re: Things my eyes have seen on Taobao
« on: February 24, 2018, 01:23:34 PM »
Who needs a walk in anyone else's horseshoes when AJ can just swap heads with her older brother :P?

Wait... does this mean that she can now READ BIG MACINTOSH'S MIND?

Oh man... this needs to be an episode. Imagine it as an MLP 'Treehouse of Horror'-type installment.

Also love the rogue G3.5 Ponyville Sweetie Belle lurking at the upper edge of the group there.

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Pony Corral / Re: Gusty the Great!
« on: January 30, 2018, 02:32:54 PM »
Isn't the reference due to one of the episode's writers (Sammie Crowley, I believe) running the Gusty365 G1 Series Resource Tumblr? I checked up on the blog last year and the owner posted about her work on the Loud House, including one episode that was written by her and her 'fabulous partner' - they were the same team credited for 'A Flurry of Emotions'. Noticed the connection immediately when I first saw the episode. It's great that at least a few G1 fans are involved in the writing of FiM though, particularly considering the past (circa 2011-2014) brony hate for G1.

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Pony Corral / Adapting the G1 comics
« on: January 28, 2018, 05:27:09 AM »
Having recently won a Baby Lucky (with comb) in an auction (for a steal-worthy price of 5.50 GBP) and considering picking up a G1 Spike to complete the bromance, I have to wonder - what if several of us in the community banded together to adapt the G1 comics into video format?

By which I mean:
- Characters played by their toy counterparts.
- Voice actors dubbing over the footage for narration/dialogue.
- Manually constructed sets (think Thomas on a lower budget).
- Possibly background music.

Obviously, some of the characters would be difficult to source/film (particularly the humanoid cast, such as Wanda the Witch, the Know-It-All Gnomes, Prince High and Mighty, Wizard Wantall, etc.), but it would certainly be an interesting project. Anyone willing to comment?

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