Wow, there wasn't a single male G3 pony? Kinda surprised.
I love the Big Brother style ponies. It'd be awesome if they did anniversary releases of them too.
Wow, there wasn't a single male G3 pony? Kinda surprised.
Nope, it was the only generation without a single male pony. Kind of a shame, really. I think G3 male ponies would've been cute!
Wow, there wasn't a single male G3 pony? Kinda surprised.
Nope, it was the only generation without a single male pony. Kind of a shame, really. I think G3 male ponies would've been cute! Although I think there was a prototype G3 that was going to be male and they just decided not to make him? I can't recall.
Only if they'd made a separate mold for them. G2 didn't have many stallions but since they were making them in the same mold as the mares it was easy to just pretend one is a boy when canonically it was a girl.
I think it's interesting G1 had so many brushable boys compared to the other gens. And let's not forget G4 is the generation "brushable" was highly debatable as SA had troll hair and the later boys had mohawks :lookround:
So, mhhh... let's just call these "haired" XD
I hope they'll come to their senses and get some more boys out with long luscious manes.
Wow, there wasn't a single male G3 pony? Kinda surprised.
Nope, it was the only generation without a single male pony. Kind of a shame, really. I think G3 male ponies would've been cute! Although I think there was a prototype G3 that was going to be male and they just decided not to make him? I can't recall.
You might be thinking of the only-video background pony in the G3.5 special that some people have said is a boy. I don't remember the pony having any lines and to me it's debatable . . . Could just be a female pony with a short haircut.
But there wasn't any toy prototype I've ever heard of, sadly.
Oooh I've been longing for a list like this, thank you :D Been meaning to try and track down all the male G4s so this'll be a great help ^^
Nirvana G1s - Re Unicorno (Italian Majesty) is a guy :) his name means "King Unicorn". IIRC there was also a prototype of Baby Schoolbag in a boy mold. I know there are other Nirvanas that got genderswapped (i.e. Italian Gusty = Gustavo) too, if we're counting those.
G4 - Prism Glider (blind bag) is male according to his card (I think he's a backgrounder in the show too?).
There are some different Colombian daddy ponies as well, with beautifull colours! ^^
Also I Think we have confirmed at least 5 Thailand boys. Dont know which one was missing though, or if all six has been found now.
And I Think there are more italians. I recall someone was named Tommy maybe? And it seems like some sets have a few boy names on the back cards, but thats just me assuming them being male, since the names ends with e or o ,instead of a, so I could be totally wrong here ^^
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Only if they'd made a separate mold for them. G2 didn't have many stallions but since they were making them in the same mold as the mares it was easy to just pretend one is a boy when canonically it was a girl.
I think it's interesting G1 had so many brushable boys compared to the other gens. And let's not forget G4 is the generation "brushable" was highly debatable as SA had troll hair and the later boys had mohawks :lookround:
So, mhhh... let's just call these "haired" XD
I hope they'll come to their senses and get some more boys out with long luscious manes.
Actually, I'll have to respectfully disagree with you there. I personally preferred the male ponies made on the same molds as females, because at least to me, sexual dimorphism makes no sense in a toy line depicting equines, or any other kind of animal in which it does not naturally occur. In real life, there is no way to tell if a horse or pony is male or female unless you look under the flank. I really liked the G2 boys because they didn't try to make them look more 'masculine' or different from the female ponies; they're all just ponies, after all.
Isn't there a Pegasus version of Baby Ribbs in...I think Venezuala?
Edited: Whoops! It was Argentina.
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/File:Argie-baby-ribbs.jpg
I agree. I was disappointed in the Big Brother Ponies because I actually wanted a girl version. I thought of them more as a different "breed" like sea ponies.
I don't and didn't feel particularly bad that there were few boys. GI Joe, Transformers, comics and most action shows at the earliest time basically only had token females. So it was nice that there was something where girls also rescued and defended others.
I don't like sexual dimorphism between boy and girl ponies either. I know it's a fantasy world etc, but I still think it's a pretty silly idea.
Some of the Italian ponies are boys, but I can't remember which . . . I think either Posey or Trickles is a boy. I have a little Italian coloring book where one of them is talking to the baby version of themself (yeah, they would just put in Baby Parasol, Baby Posey, tons of babies who never existed) and the baby was calling the adult "Uncle". (In Italy the baby versions are the nieces / nephews of the adults, not the babies. At least in the comics.)
Some of the Italian ponies are boys, but I can't remember which . . . I think either Posey or Trickles is a boy. I have a little Italian coloring book where one of them is talking to the baby version of themself (yeah, they would just put in Baby Parasol, Baby Posey, tons of babies who never existed) and the baby was calling the adult "Uncle". (In Italy the baby versions are the nieces / nephews of the adults, not the babies. At least in the comics.)
I Think there are more italians. I recall someone was named Tommy maybe? And it seems like some sets have a few boy names on the back cards, but thats just me assuming them being male, since the names ends with e or o ,instead of a, so I could be totally wrong here ^^I added Bianco (Male Starshine) since he was confirmed to be male, but I couldn't really tell if any of the others were male or not. I did notice there was a Tommy (Italian Bow Tie) and Ben (Italian Bubbles) as well but I couldn't seem to find any info on their genders. If anyone knows if they were in fact male versions, please let me know!
Some of the Italian ponies are boys, but I can't remember which . . . I think either Posey or Trickles is a boy. I have a little Italian coloring book where one of them is talking to the baby version of themself (yeah, they would just put in Baby Parasol, Baby Posey, tons of babies who never existed) and the baby was calling the adult "Uncle". (In Italy the baby versions are the nieces / nephews of the adults, not the babies. At least in the comics.)
I really do like boy ponies, but seeing all the G4 blind bag boys I don't think I'll be able to get them all haha!
Well, being an Italian MLP fan, I can confirm there are more male ponies among Italian variants. But, as you wrote, sometimes this just depends on the name, without any other infos (in comics or pamphlets) about the gender of characters. If you check on this page http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Italy you'll find two collectible figurine scans, that introduce G1 characters with their Italian names. These names were also used in the Italian dubbing of the tv animated series. Well, some of these names are MALE names in Italy: Golia (Heart-Throb), Gelsomino (Cherries Jubilee), Fortunello (Lickety-Split), Lolito (Sparkler; sometimes she was called Ippolito, another male name). Note that these names ARE NOT Italian translations of their English names; for example "Gelsomino" means "Jasmine Flower", but, if it was a female name, it would be "Gelsomina". Anyway, she represents a discrepancy, because in the tv show she was called "Ciliegia" (Cherry), of course a female Italian noun.
After that, we have two BowTie versions and two Applejack versions, and for them the situation is clear: One version is male and the other is female. Melania is the female Applejack in the shy pose, and Melozzo is the male Applejack in the collector pose. Timmy is the female BowTie in the shy pose and Tammy is the male BowTie in the collector pose.
Is it all solved? No... -_- Because here you will find many many other Italian male names of g1 ponies: http://miominipony.mlparena.com/ponynomi.htm
Specifically, they are: Turchino, Azzurro, Bianco, Giallo, Placido, Geremia, David, Ulisse, Ricciolino, Ballerino, Barnaba, Michele, Confetto, Polidoro, Gustavo, Filiberto, Pallino, Scirocco, Martino, and all names ending with "-ino" (this ending is a sort of term of endearment, and we use "-ino" for boys and "-ina" for girls, so here we have only male names).
Well: why we have so many male names for such "feminine" ponies? And why babies are always called "nipotino" (nephew) instead of "nipotina" (niece)?… Because the Italian adaptation considered them as mere animals without gender, rather than characters with their own identity... -_-
So, I advise you not to include in the list all these names I have written to you, but limit yourself to insert Re Unicorno (always mentioned in Italian comics), Gustavo (because he is famous in the animated series and had a boyish voice) and, of course, Melozzo and Tammy (the male counterparts of Applejack and BowTie).
Anyway, this is only my point of view, you could ask for advice to other Italian MLP fans...
Ah, I see! This is a ton of great information, thank you so much for the insight!
That is so interesting about the Italian Ponies Cristar.
aaaa that's fascinating, Cristar! :o One of the best posts I've seen on here in a while. So the two AJs and Bow-Ties are considered different characters in Italy? :o
I collect the boys too :)
You missed some I noticed. Most just variants.
Funko Vinyl Cheese Sandwich
Funko Vinyl Crystal Cheese Sandwich
Funko Vinyl Crystal Big McIntosh
Funko Vinyl Crystal Shining Armor
Funko Vinyl Crystal Dr. Whooves
Funko Vinyl Red/Green Tie Dr. Whoobes
Funko Mini Shining Armor
Funko Mini Black Shining Armor
Funko Mini Big Mac
Funko Mini Black Big Mac
Funko Mini Cheese Sandwich
Funko Mini Black Cheese Sandwich
Funko Pop Dr. Whooves
GOH Shining Armor
GOH Changeling
GOH Soarin
GOH Cheese Sandwich
GOH Stratus Skyranger
Brushable Crystal Shining Armor
Fashion Style Shining Armor
Fashion Style Soarin
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Well, remember, the entire MLP line, big brothers, mountain boys, were conceptualized decades before society began pushing a movement toward androgeny, gender fluidity, and non binary gender associations. MLP was originally very skewed toward the stereotypically feminine and what was seen as acceptable toys for girls and male characters were mostly an afterthought. Just look toward Megan, Molly and Danny.
That's a really detailed list!
Baby Schoolbag definitely appeared as a male posed prototype in the insert for that year, though I have a feeling he might be in a female pose on the backcard. Can't remember which way around it is but definitely it existed.
Also, I dunno where the name Score comes from - the animated series? I've seen people say it's the UK name but it isn't. He was Quarterback here. If you're counting pre-production names, though Ice Crystal was, I believe, "Frosty" and Thundercloud was definitely Storm. I am pretty sure I have a Grooming Parlour tag that says 'Storm' on it with his symbols.
Yup, usually Spanish uses male articles and pronouns as being neutral, but (at least with Mexican Spanish) we can "eat" (omit) them and just use the verb so it's more neutral (the "correct" way: Ella juega afuera - she plays outside. But it's more common to just say "juega afuera" - plays outside).
Went to search a post I made some time ago about the info on the Mexicans I have with this issue of the male/neutral (@fb on the nirvana group):
Relating to the issue about Mexican ponies being male/female, here are the only ones I can vouch for given that I have them in box (somewhat...):
While the Spanish language is really peculiar about female/male words (so you can not confuse them... :rollseyes: and using the masculine words as just the neutral form), at least with two they consider them as males due to the ussage of the words:
Watercolor Baby Sea Pony -Acuarela- Salty (pink):
The story mentions it's a "he" ("estaba emocionado", "especial amigo").
Watercolor Baby Sea Pony -Acuarela- Spray (yellow):
The only neutral one.
Watercolor Baby Sea Pony -Acuarela- Salty (blue):
Not definite, because uses somewhat neutral ("lindo pony").
Newborn Twins -Gemelitos- Lat y Tat (Rattles & Tattles):
Not definite, but the use of the masculine word "gemelitos" against "gemelitas" (female) can mean at least one is a male.
Baby pony Baby Cotton (Baby Cotton Candy):
Also clearly depicts Cotton as a male ("travieso", and "le dió a él otro ramito como bocadillo").
If we're going into original and reprints of books, I'm pretty sure the original prints of Man in the Moon or Stolen Shadow had AJ and maybe Bubbles as well as guys. But this also had the wrong names for the adult sea ponies. The second edition corrected the sea ponies, and changed the pronouns. But you can kind of see they did it, because the font is slightly different.
I think it's those books. AJ got a mixed gender representation in the very beginning in the UK before being standard female, and I think Bubbles was the other one that had the same treatment as well.
If we're going into original and reprints of books, I'm pretty sure the original prints of Man in the Moon or Stolen Shadow had AJ and maybe Bubbles as well as guys. But this also had the wrong names for the adult sea ponies. The second edition corrected the sea ponies, and changed the pronouns. But you can kind of see they did it, because the font is slightly different.
I think it's those books. AJ got a mixed gender representation in the very beginning in the UK before being standard female, and I think Bubbles was the other one that had the same treatment as well.
Huh, very interesting. Perhaps they decided that most young girls would be able to more readily relate to characters that were their own gender and just decided to change it? Or perhaps there was a misunderstanding somewhere along the line with the ponies' genders and the books were printed before anyone realized it. Very interesting information in any case, thank you for sharing!