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Title: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Queen Sophie on July 13, 2023, 08:03:41 PM
Title says it all, from most to least which gen feels like my little pony to you, it can be as simple as 1,2,3 or 1,1,2,3 if you have a tie, here’s mine,

1. G1
1. G3
I grew up with g3 toys and it’s what started to give me that Mlp feeling and when I looked into g1 it also felt like Mlp to me! I don’t know exactly what it is that makes me feel this way about them, I guess cause they look like horses, some lighthearted stuff, and the jingle

2. G3.5
Not much to say here, I saw it a little bit of ads of it and thought cool it’s my little pony

3. G2
3. G4
G2 I have very little memories of this and I only played the pc game as a kid I remember some things from it but for some reason not the ponies and when looking up Mlp history I was surprised that these existed and as for g4 maybe because they looked different from the g3 face I’m used to and then changed into something different because when I first saw g4 I was wondering why their heads were shaped kinda weird and while the stories are great it kinda didn’t feel like Mlp to me but it did sometimes a little bit

4. G5
Don’t know what to say here, other than it’s a little bit the same with g4 but feels less like mlp

5. G4.5
Pony Life felt like it’s own thing and the toys looked more like cats than horses
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 13, 2023, 09:22:22 PM
From most to least:

G1-They're horse like. I'm horse crazy. They're full of variety and chunky and have lovely hair. They weren't afraid to experiment with species, poses, colors,  ages, and sets.

G3-Very much like G1, except less variety and number of species. Oddly enough, the breezies outnumber the unicorns. Very beautiful and has tons of beautiful color combos and far more detailed symbols.

Mishmash-The crossover ponies added more variety to what would have otherwise been 2 G1s +Mane Six. Unusual color schemes, wish they had put the eyes in the correct place. Wish they'd added some unicorns and pegasus to the crossover ponies. Pink Ranger would have benefitted from being a pegasus since Kimberly 's zord is a pterodactyl. At least one of the DnD Ponies should have been a unicorn. Hasbro’s last attempt of what a pony ought to look like I suppose. Wish they'd just used these moulds for G5. Bah!

G5-Not as horsey. The variety so far is blah blah boring. That's embarrassing for a toy brand several years into its latest incarnation. They've grown on me, starting to like them and they make good custom baits. I'm excited bout that because I'm too chicken to rehair a mane.

G2-Species is sadly lacking. It's a gazillion earth ponies, 3 unicorns,  and ponies with clip-on wings. The poses and unfinished faces threw me for a while, as they don't even look like SHS or Flutter Ponies. The one I have is cute and vibrant though. I like her.

G4-Mane Six Suxx. Everything new was mostly relegated to blind bags with a few exceptions. They look like over bred chihuahuas with those overly round heads, massive eyes, and big ears. I have some, but I'll forever resent it. It ground the spirit out of the brand with lazy, low quality greed and obnoxious, obsessive copy pasting.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Snapdragon on July 13, 2023, 11:45:54 PM
Very fun idea for a topic! It'll be interesting to see the breakdown in the age ranges too, I wonder how pony-ish G1 feels for the folks who didn't grow up with it, for example!

Here's my list -

G1
G2
G3
G4
G5
G4.5
Tales
G3.5

Okay, I know this isn't fully clear - but I know that we had some in-between gens, especially in terms of the media! Let me explain. For me, G1 is the quintessential Pony, the proto-Pony if you will, because it encapsulates the best of the toyline (hand-sized, slightly squishy, hair-play, fantasy-based) and the best of the media line. The pony cartoon (MLP and Friends, the movie, specials, etc) all had very fantasy-based themes, which even included fairy tale characters coming to life! I grew up with G1, so this was very much influenced by my nostalgia, too. Yes, the toyline still had a fair amount of 'little girls aspiring to teenage/adulthood' themes, with makeup lines and accessories and such, but the general vibe (especially in the earlier years/media) was childhood fantasy. For me, I see Barbie as more of the aspirational play, the 'I want to be a grown up and wear glamorous outfits and makeup and drive to work in my convertible' type play; MLP is more fantasy, more undefined, more open-ended for what kind of play you would have as a child.


G2 lands in its place here, for me, mostly because of nostalgia. I remember walking into a Target and seeing ponies on the shelf, and thinking, wow! They're back! And even though I was 'older' then, I still got some. This was the sort of beginning of my 'collector' mindset, because I remember going online and finding G2 ponies for sale in an online shop for the very first time. They didn't have a big media presence (especially in the States), so I was able to sort of impose my own fantasy of them, which was largely carried over from G1. Their accessories would have fit well in the Dream Castle, for example.

I almost put G3 further down, but then I remembered specifically the movies, Minty's Christmas and the Runaway Rainbow, and it brought them up the rank for me. Sure, we saw a lot of pony-scooters, cars, radios, TV and phones in the toyline, which are obviously things that seemed incongruous with a fantasy setting. But the movies still had a very heavy fantasy basis, and include Minty flying in a hot air balloon up to visit Santa, and Rarity travelling through a magical forest, and befriending Breezies/fairies. The ponies themselves also have a similar hand-feel to the G1 line, moreso than G2. I'm going back and forth between the G2/G3 ranking, to be honest! The G3 toyline got disappointing near the end (Core 7 anyone?), but perhaps if I lived in Europe I would have gotten sick of G2 too, instead of seeing them as thrilling, exotic rarities.

G4 carries on the fantasy elements for me, although out of pettiness for the trainwreck-y final seasons I was tempted to put it lower. Still, the overall seasons carry on the fantasy theme well for me, and even the cringeworthy 'fan shout outs' aren't often enough to truly demote the series as a whole. The toys are lackluster, for the most part, with many of the 'best' releases being convention exclusives, foreign exclusives, or simply incredibly difficult to find (Captain Celeano springs to mind). Still, the wide variety of toys means they can't be ranked very poorly overall, even if the vast majority have cheap polypropylene tails as a cost-cutting measure by Hasbro.

G5 sort of naturally follows G4 because it shares a lot of similar elements to me; a group of friends format for the show, a mix of fantastical and modern elements, and a toyline that does its job. I'm hoping it'll impress me, of course, but so far we have many sculpted-hair-only releases... and that's not promising.

G4.5 (the Potion releases/Potion Magic cartoon) was, uh, strange, frankly! I think a lot of folks skipped over this one, and I can't blame them (I'm still not finished catching up with the series, ha), but it did offer some exciting new fantasy elements. I thought it was kind of like a Teen Titans Go take on MLP, and I can't say that I hated it ... as much as the Newborn Cuties nightmare. :lmao:

Tales, well, it's a sacrilege to put it this far down here! :rofl: And as much as I love the cartoon, and I have a great deal of childhood nostalgia for it, it's not extremely "pony-ish", which is what you asked. They're more like preteen/tween girls who happen to also be ponies! And there's nothing wrong with that, and I enjoyed it a lot when I was a kid! It just doesn't scream 'horse'! :P

G3.5, well, same reason as Tales, really. They're talking horses, but they're driving around cars. :P The cartoons associated with it weren't fantasy-enough to save their ranking, like it did in G3! There was a cartoon with a magical wishing dragon, as I recall; but perhaps the cars and scooters are just more pervasive in my memory! :P
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: BubbleTea on July 14, 2023, 12:47:20 AM
1. G1- This gen wins because it's arguably the most pop-culturally iconic. Especially years 1-3 which just feel so "PONY" to me. It created the idea of what mlp is and all the other gens (besides maybe g5) were created with the intention of recapturing it's success.

2. G3- Gen 3 earns second place for me because it's the first iteration of mlp that I knew of and I always assumed it was the original prior to learning about g1. I always get so nostalgic whenever I see the artwork and mcdonald's ponies which are so personally iconic to me.

3. G4- Even though it's not my favorite (I'm not ranking gens based on how much I like them :P) this gen kinda forced it's way into this spot for having become a genuine pop culture phenomenon and for having such a hugely successful show. When mlp is brought up this gen is what most people online think of nowadays. The show was so successful that I doubt they'll ever stop making licensed merch of it's characters.

4. G2- I'm ngl I always forget about this gen but at least it does it's own unique thing

5. G5- Bottom spot because it follows current children's animation trends a little too closely causing it to just feel so GENERIC. It also tries too hard to live up to g4, leading it to have no real sense of identity. Maybe Hasbro understands that they're never going to have another M6 and that the M5 isn't going to happen, which is why they always bring them back for EVERY RELEASE!!! This gen also has like zero presence on store shelves which makes it kinda easy to forget about it.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Minty_Magic on July 14, 2023, 12:51:46 AM
Ohhh fun! I like seeing what makes “My Little Pony” actually map for everyone!

1.) G3
This is the generation I grew up with and my introduction to pony. The thing that really drew me into the toys was the variety and collectibility of them. I really liked their short little backcard stories. They have just enough of a snippet of personality that you could play with as a kid if you wanted, but they also left a lot of room for your own imagination. The thing I liked about the cartoons were the simple, low stakes stories. Once again, the ponies had a small glimmer of personality, but mostly they were still a blank slate for kid me to play with them as their own characters.

2.) G1
This was my introduction into the world of other gens, and the idea of actually collecting. A lot of the things I liked about G3 are present in this gen too - wide variety of toys, simple backcard stories, Tne animation was a little more high stakes, but still showcased a wide array of the ponies. Plus, they are the originals, so of course they should rank fairly high! :)

3.) G5
Despite some if its shortcomings, I genuinely feel like G5 is a slight return to form for the brand. This generation is FAR more media focused than I’d like MLP to be, but at least the stories are what I like from MLP - fairly low stakes and simple stories. Even though the main ponies do have very distinct personalities, I also feel like they allow for a kid to project some further personality onto them if wanted. The toys also suffer from a severe lack of characters, but they toys that are out are much better quality than a lot of recent ponies. Plus, a lot of the play sets genuinely seem fun for kids! I know I would have been allllll over the little poseable sets when I was younger.

4) G4
There is a lot I don’t like about G4 in hindsight, but I can’t deny that when it first came out it resparked my love for My Little Pony after I was kinda burnt out. FiM came out when I was in high school, and at the time I loved the more action packed, epic tone of opening episodes. Despite being aimed at kids still, it kind of felt like MLP grew up with me. I still adore the first season of the show for its unique cast of characters and simple storylines mixed in with the grander schemes. As time went on I didn’t like all of the “lore” and epic scale of the show. It just seemed kind of….goofy for My Little Pony after a certain point. The toy line also seriously was boring. Despite being around for nearly 10 years, my entire G4 brushable collection fits on a single shelf.

G2.) To be honest, this generation just never got a fair chance. They feel less like MLP to me just because of their slender bodies and really simple designs, but with G5 in the mix, that gap has been bridged a bit. I do remember having a G2 Ivy from McDonalds and playing the PC game, but other than that they just kind of lack the nostalgia that other gems hold for me. I still really love the, though!

G3.5)
I HATED these when they came out, and even though the toys have grown on me some, this was still a bad time for MLP overall. This is the generation that introduced the idea of a core cast and repeat releases and the dominance of Pinkie Pie as a mascot. To this day the look and feel of the toys, and especially the media around G3.5 just feel very juvenile. It seems like they were targeted more towards toddlers and preschoolers than young girls.

G4.5.)
Okay so I kinda dig G4.5, but they don’t feel like My Little Pony at all LOL! They seem like a spin-off of the whole brand, but that being said I really did like the overly simple chibi style of the animation. The shorts were frankly fun for what they were. I did appreciate the simplicity of this whole gen after the drama and fallout of G4 proper.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Shaiyeh on July 14, 2023, 02:10:14 AM
for me, I think I'd say

g1 - they are the OGs, after all. My first ever pony was a g1 pony. G1 was what sucked me into collecting back when I started. I was going to ID my childhood ponies, and ended up on Dream Valley and just spent hours in awe of all the beautiful ponies I never saw before. The majority of my collection today is g1.

g2 - the generation I mainly grew up with. (I'm an early 90s baby, so I had both g1 and g2. I remember when they first came out and I was over the moon to get the mcD ones, and I got two of the very first set for my birthday and xmas respectively the year they came out. They have also always reminded me the most of actual horses. Their faces look like foals or arabians, and I adore the little ears (that actually look like horse ears. I will die on the hill defending the point that g2 ears are the most horse like ears lol).

g3 - I just love them. The longer manes, shimmery bodies, super cute art, gahhh, so cute! I miss seeing them in stores. They (and g3.5) are the last gen I really actively collect.

g5 - they remind me a lot of g2! I really enjoy g5. I think I would collect them more if I had a different financial situation, because I really, really like them. I enjoy the feathered hooves, and different wing shapes a lot. Also the fact that they have slight differences in height and such.

g3.5 - CUTE. They look far from horsey, but I find them adorable.

g4.5 - Same as g4.5. I enjoy these more than g4. I never watched any of the episodes, so I can''t say how PONY they feel, though.

g4 - When they first came out, I was SUPER hyped. But I got kind of burnt out on them pretty fast. I find them cute, but it's the generation that burned me out on pony. I have a small collection of them now, I tend to pick them up when I find them, but I'm not super enthusiastic about them.
I prefer early g4 to reboot g4, but I like the dynamic poses of reboot more.
I liked the early seasons of FiM, but I got burned out on that as well.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Moonbreeze on July 14, 2023, 02:46:10 AM
Hmm,

G2 - First ponies I had and/ or knew about. Colour schemes and cute accessories. The art is gorgeous <3

G1 - Second I knew about and thought were a bit ugly :D I still think they're a bit goofy and clumsy looking, but also cute. There is soooo much and it's an endless pit with the nirvana ponies :)

G3 - Cuties, and I mainly mean pre-core 6. So much variation, although along with G2 a lack of unicorns and pegasi

G4 - One couldn't possibly evade the hype around this gen. It started of so strong with the new characters and then it got bore 7. And along with the tv series it got a bit too much for me though.

G5 - I don't like their faces. But I appreciate the variation in design. Feathered hooves, detailed horns etc.

G3.5 - The 'oh yeah, these exist' gen

G4.5 - Rinse and repeat the G3.5 quote

Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Ponybookworm on July 14, 2023, 11:41:51 AM
Top of the list: G1. No question!!! The collector Ponies are virtually identical to Shetland Ponies in every way except the colours, & the others take that basic Pony shape & expand on it, putting it in different poses & so on.

G3: a little smaller, with bigger eyes & larger hooves (meaning a G1 adult sleeve is the same width as a G3 adult sleeve to accommodate that big hoof), but still very Pony-like & can share accessories with their G1 friends.

G2/ Flutters/ Dabble & Scribbles: They come next as a nice stepping stone between baby G1s & adult G3s, all in the same place as they're all the same size & similar shapes. They're a bit more horse than Pony but imo they're having growing spurts so being long & lanky goes well with them age-wise. Still able to integrate them into a Pony world. And the G2 Babies are similar in size to the Teeny G1 Babies.

Newborn Cuties: These go quite well with integration into a Ponyworld, better than the next lot on the list, & Customising some as G3 Soft Newborns sizes them down nicely so they can integrate too.

G3.5 Sweetie Belle: being the smallest of the G3.5 "adults" (she's an actual child Pony), she looks most like the G3 Babies, & thus can also integrate well into a Ponyworld. I've Customised a couple of Sweetie Belles too into other Ponies of her age so she's not alone.

Other G3.5 "adults": Harder to integrate due to teeny bodies, massive heads, & massive hooves, making them look so like Chibi art I literally call them Chibi Ponies!!! They still kind of go, but it's starting to get difficult integrating them into a Ponyworld.

G4 Fashion Style: The most easy to integrate of all the G4s due to being similar in size to G1 adults. If only the CMCs had been Made in Fashion Style-compatible sizes!!!

HUGE GAP DUE TO SIZE DIFFERENTIAL

G4 Brushables: These Ponies act like young adults, but are the size of G1 Babies, meaning they have to be their own, not just race, but SPECIES of Pony (Petites, McDonalds, & Ponyville/ blind bags are another species too). Plus their shorter muzzles begin to seriously detract from all things Pony

G5: The big ones are BIGGER than Fashion Style AND bigger than G1 adults, so don't integrate to a G1-centric Ponyworld well. I only have 1 Sunny in the big ones & she literally TOWERS over the Butterscotches!!! The small ones are close in size to G4s, but their proportions are again altered. Their heads are different, their leg proportions are different, & were I to make a G4 garment, it wouldn't fit a G5 Pony, being too slack on the thinner body & legs, but too tight round the wider head. There's still a slight Pony influence to them, but yikes they're so different.

Pony Life: Sorry peeps but these ARE NOT PONIES!!! They're more like cats with Pony-esque manes & tails. This is why I only have, & will only EVER have, two of them (& if I could get a Potion Nova custom in any other form I would immediately).
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: brightberry on July 14, 2023, 02:46:09 PM
G1
G3
They have that chubby My Little Pony shape and distinctive pony eyes.

G4
I think the theme song and the way they move animated is very MLP to me.  The toys, not so much but they're still chubby and cute.


G2
I think they're very cute and I love them.  But, they don't make me think MLP.  More my little yearling.

G5
The hard plastic makes them feel less MLP.  I like the shows though.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 14, 2023, 03:30:16 PM
Hmm.

G1. What I grew up with and what's iconic.

G3. They really did a good job with G3. Most of all, they looked like ponies.

G4. The toys grew on me and I think of them as normal now. I liked the show. It was crazy popular.

G2. I do love G2 and the awesome accessories. I didn't know about them until I joined the Arena though.

G5. Even though it's the current ponyline, it's still new? I only have one set of ponies. I'd like to add more Sunnys but I don't care for the articulated ones. The first movie was cute.

The in-betweeners I'm not going to rank. They are all just "there". I actually quite like G4.5.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 14, 2023, 05:47:31 PM
This a weird thing for me, because ultimately... they all feel like My Little Pony to me. G1 (both "friends" and "Tales"), G3, G3.5, G4 and G5 ("Make Your Mark") have that heartwarming, sentimental, nostalgic "I could have grown up with it" feeling to them, even though I grew up with none of them.

I'm not sure if G4.5/Pony Life has the feeling that I could have grown up with it, but it is definitely nostalgic, and I am very sentimental towards it (I think it might be one of my comfort shows) and it definitely feels what I view My Little Pony to be (cute, adorable, nostalgic, and as of G4 onwards - story driven*)

I think the only thing that I could put separately is Tell Your Tale in G5, I ultimately like it, and still have nostalgia for it, but it feels a few meters or so off MLP at times, but not always, but I don't mean it any hate.

Sorry if anyone disagrees with my view.

* I love the non-story driven MLP generations as well, but I personally like to view MLP as being story driven (or at least, I like to write it that way), because that is what speaks to me - I just find it nostalgic I guess, but episodic is good too (I basically like a combination, which is kind of what G4 and G4.5 does), but if I like the show, I'm fine either way.

EDIT: Once again, this is the show rather than the toyline, as I tend to think of that first, even though I fully respect that the toyline comes first, and it is all My Little Pony to me - if we are talking about the toyline, I would say that...

G1 is definitely first; imaginative, nostalgic, and feels like the best one to grow up with, IMO. Then G3, the most beautiful generation, IMO, which also shows in the toys, and not too far in looks to G1. Then G2, different, and kind of less imaginative at times (the literally have ponies with names like "Miss Teacher"), but still beautifully designed and still got that nostalgia vibe... and everything after that, I'm not too bothered about...

The Core 7 despite the controversy are okay, and I actually do have some G4 toys, but... I dunno, I kind of feel that from G4 they kind of forgot how to be a toyline show (I mean I see things in the cartoons that look like they'd be perfect toys, and... I don't think they ever are...)
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: rearing_palomino164 on July 14, 2023, 05:47:58 PM
I only ever got into G3's, so G3's is MLP to me. :)
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 14, 2023, 05:54:34 PM
I only ever got into G3's, so G3's is MLP to me. :)
At least you chose a beautiful generation. ^_^
(I love G3.)
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: TarkanDragon on July 15, 2023, 01:25:46 AM
Alright here's mine:

G1
It really feels the most like my little pony especially with how they designed the ponies that they're cute and smaller than regular horses. The mystical creatures designs were also great as it all fits in the style of a Saturday morning cartoon. The most caught my attention was Spike as I was amazed with the design as well. Also there's also some human characters (Megan, Danny, Molly) here and there which also makes it seem actually better for a fantasy world than just having only mystical creatures.

G2
Not too sure but I get the feel like it's G1 except no special creatures or even humans. The ponies have lived in a modern world environment. I'm still wasn't sure that G2 toys were different than the ones in the show. Wish that maybe it would have humans, dragons, any mystical creature, etc. to be in the show.

G3
While it does look pretty, I still feel that maybe it's a mixture of G4 and G1. I mean I don't complain about it too much because I mostly have known about 2000's aesthetics. Which pretty much feels a much more variety and yet somehow it still limits the G1 adventures and G4 as well. Well atleast there's no mistakes from G4.

G3.5
a mix of G1 and G3 though the designs were more chubbier and... Well how can I say this... Wish maybe it would give more just like G1. but it still does give feel a bit but not a bit enough.

G4
Well, this is something that I wouldn't point out but G4 tried to follow G1 but somehow it's really complicated how they intrepid humans to G4 as some kind of other dimension form. I mean overall it is popular enough that somehow it attracted everyone and almost forgot about the other gens. But G1 still happens to stand out.
The feel I get from this gen is that it's missing the stuff from other gens, sometimes does episodes based on older gens episodes which somehow it's not the same and really weak messages. And yeah... I've actually never seen Spike being the most sufferable throughout the show. I mean I like him but somehow he doesn't seem giving the exact feel like G1 spike. And obviously Spike got immediately a bit ruined with the movie and later episodes. It's like he's went though roughs. Don't get me started with the molting part because, I really disliked the molting in G4. But on the least bright side is that there's 6 more characters who happen to be in the main story... wish it would have showcased earlier seasons than just put them at the last two.

Honestly G4 does try to give the feel but really enough.

G4.5
What... the... heck?

G5
It tries to bring up G2 again except that it's really a mic of G4 and the way how it feels it's a bit like Sofia the first which I happen to watch in my past. But somehow it's like almost an arc but not a bad one like how IDW does arcs. I mean the way how it was going feels like that it should keep the arcs that is well written and yet not character ruining.
Though wish Sparky was first introduced in the movie but well I know how it came out.



This is the feels I get from the generations. And honestly the most of the gens that give me the feel definitely goes for G1 and maybe G5. Hopefully this would answer from what you asked.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Moonbreeze on July 15, 2023, 03:49:26 AM
G2
Not too sure but I get the feel like it's G1 except no special creatures or even humans. The ponies have lived in a modern world environment. I'm still wasn't sure that G2 toys were different than the ones in the show. Wish that maybe it would have humans, dragons, any mystical creature, etc. to be in the show.


Confused. G2 didn't have a show? Do you mean MLPTales? That's still G1 ;) G2 only had a PC game and a bunch of comics.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: TarkanDragon on July 15, 2023, 06:55:05 AM
G2
Not too sure but I get the feel like it's G1 except no special creatures or even humans. The ponies have lived in a modern world environment. I'm still wasn't sure that G2 toys were different than the ones in the show. Wish that maybe it would have humans, dragons, any mystical creature, etc. to be in the show.


Confused. G2 didn't have a show? Do you mean MLPTales? That's still G1 ;) G2 only had a PC game and a bunch of comics.

Ah yes that. Although not sure about the comics since I have not got around to see them.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: TheClassCalico on July 15, 2023, 07:00:55 AM
G1: The first generation and the one with the longest lifespan. It is full of fantasy and resemble horses.

G3: Similar to G1 in many ways, both in style and fantasy. However, it still feels less like THE My Little Pony.

G2: Perhaps it's because G2 had very limited media, but it doesn't come to mind quite as much as the latter two when I think 'My Little Pony'. It's still a wonderful generation, though. I adore the gems in their eyes especially.

G3.5: Maybe it's because they had a short life, maybe it's because they didn't really look horsey anymore, or perhaps it was the shift towards the same characters being repeated (which technically started late into G3's life but was for the entire duration of this generation), but it doesn't feel quite the same, but is still closer than the later generations. This actually felt like a transition between G3 and G4 in more ways than just the order.

G4: At this point, it felt like there was a shift into something very different, with less variety and quality in the toys and the feeling that there was much more emphasis on the show as opposed to the toys. The show is excellent, but the generation still feels different, almost as though it split into a separate franchise.

G5 - The same as G4, but the very modern setting and humanoid appearance of the ponies' faces just doesn't strike me as very My Little Pony.

G4.5: These are cats!

Kidding aside, the main issue is that much like G5, it's very modern but unlike G5, is extremely comedic in tone. The toys also don't at all look like horses and have the same repetition issue that generations since G3.5 have had.


Bonus, My Little Pony Tales: I didn't include it as part of the list as it is not a generation in itself, nor is it a sub-generation (although, I've heard it referred to as G1.5 by some). If it was included, I'd place it between G4 and G5. It's very modern, very much like G5 and G4.5, and is lacking in fantasy elements. They however do resemble horses and being G1, also look like G1s in particular which gives them some points.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Beth3346 on July 15, 2023, 08:23:59 AM
1. G1: since that's what i grew up with.
2. G3: since they're closest to the originals
3. G4: they're cute and they came out not long after I started collecting. they don't look much like ponies to me. more like deer.
4. G2: they're adorable but such a departure from the originals. i love them they're just less "MLP"
5. G5: I haven't seen these in person but they look more like deer to me. they're kind of a combo of G2 and G4 IMO
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 15, 2023, 11:11:21 AM
Wait, I though G4.5 was the reboot poses? It's Pony Life? I though Pony Life was its own weird thing.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: TheClassCalico on July 15, 2023, 11:19:04 AM
Wait, I though G4.5 was the reboot poses? It's Pony Life? I though Pony Life was its own weird thing.

Yep! Pony Life is G4.5. I believe that the reboot ponies were temporarily referred to as G4.5 until Pony Life rolled around, but I may be mistaken about that.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Carrehz on July 15, 2023, 11:52:26 AM
Yeah, Hasbro dubbed Pony Life "G4.5" themselves, so that's official. We never really did come to a consensus on what to call the reboot/Movie ponies :/ Some called them G4.5, and still do... it's a mess.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 15, 2023, 12:15:47 PM
Huh. Okay. Well, I don't mind the Pony Life figures. I never saw the cartoon. I really like the reboot poses though.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 15, 2023, 05:26:18 PM
Pony Life certainly makes more sense as G4.5 than whatever was (briefly?) dubbed as it before, IMO for the following reasons;

1. Completely new model of toys  - the stuff released around the movie still looked like G4, and were still released in that era (I highly doubt they were meant to be a new toyline, since they were still in G4 canon.)

2. Different canon - the cartoon is a whole new show, with different ponies, with the same names as the G4 cast. I know that the same generation is allowed to have more than one cartoon, but it makes sense as a new generation, like G3 versus G3.5 - so it's only part of G4 if you personally believe that point five generations are part of what they're... point five-ing from.

I honestly never got why the movie-surrounding toys were thought to be G4.5, nothing happened as far as I can see to suggest that (no new show, no revamp of characters... yet Pony Life did both of those things.)

Bonus, My Little Pony Tales: I didn't include it as part of the list as it is not a generation in itself, nor is it a sub-generation (although, I've heard it referred to as G1.5 by some). If it was included, I'd place it between G4 and G5. It's very modern, very much like G5 and G4.5, and is lacking in fantasy elements. They however do resemble horses and being G1, also look like G1s in particular which gives them some points.
It's G1, but I understand separating it to some extent if you're talking about the shows specifically, but... yeah, it's G1, not G1.5, G1 - it's just that G1 had two completely separate cartoons, which can confuse some fans (kind of understandable, as this is the only time My Little Pony has done this (G5 has two cartoons, but it's the same cast - Tales did a whole new thing)

Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Koudoawaia on July 16, 2023, 10:32:53 AM
While the cartoons admittedly aren't my favorite compared to others, G1 feels the most like My Little Pony to me as far as their designs in their cartoons and the toys and just everything about them.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: PinkieLopBun on July 16, 2023, 07:28:25 PM
I don’t know how I’d rank them all, but G3 and G3.5 would be at the top. They were what was around when I was growing up and they were my only exposure to the franchise for years. I’m still more likely to think of them than other generations when I hear about MLP. Only other thing I know is that G1 wouldn’t be far behind.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on July 17, 2023, 09:14:39 AM
Tales is G1.  It's not a sub-category or a generation. It's just part of G1. I think it's always been singled out because of the show vs not being sold in the US, making it kind of mysterious over there - but here it was just another range of ponies alongside existing ranges of ponies.

There's so much overlap. I think the kitchen is still on the Tales insert? It was certainly still on sale. Glowing Magic and Rockin' Beat ponies crossover into the Tales series, as does the Schoolhouse - these are all earlier G1 concepts/releasesd. The tales set also use standard poses - it would make more sense to call G1.5 on My little kitty/puppy etc, or petite ponies or dream beauties, which were all conceptionally different. And, if we wanted to base it on TV shows, we'd have to create a sub-category for the middle range ponies from 1988-1991 - who did not have animation at all.

The last year of releases in the US -  the anniversary year - are also way more eclectic in theme, pose and design than anything in 1993 or 1994. There's also two years of toy releases around the Tales ponies, even though most of them are not in the Tales animation. The only ponies from 1993-4 that appear in the animation are the seven characters themselves and garbled iterations of the family friends/babies sets (Sunbright, Berrytown, Meadowsweet). The Rockin' Beats make more appearances, I think, than those family ponies do (they may appear in 1 episode each?) There are of course roller melody, hairdo starlight and in 1994, nurse sweetheart - but it's hard to look at a set like the best friends babies, which is very basic baby pony and very basic pet and think, 'oh yes. That's a whole new generation!'. Especially as I *think* those moulds (the pets) had been used prior.

Bronies invented the idea of Tales being G2 some-time post 2011. Their logic was 100% because of the animation series. I think they maybe did it to explain to themselves why G3 was being called G3, because the real G2 didn't have an animated series. Tales looks different, thus they jumped to the conclusion that must be G2. Bronies have plenty of mad G1 theories, though like believing G1 was all about Majesty, because the Uk comic featured her, and because they could relate it directly to Celestia in G4. I don't think there's a need to accommodate their misconceptions.

In fact, the G-terms didn't exist at all around MLP till G3 happened. In 1997, when G2 came out, they were the 'new ponies', and G1 the 'old ponies'. I also corresponded with Hasbro Uk in 1995. They sent me a bunch of information about G1 in the UK, including a list - and the Tales ponies are simply included in with all the other releases. In fact, the Tales ponies aren't even called that, not officially. They're the Seven Characters. An attempt at a core group - definitely. But a new generation? No.


In terms of the original question, obviously G1 is what I grew up with, so is always the most MLP to me. But I also agree that most generations offer something 'pony' that makes them identifiable, even if they're not the ones that most appeal to me.

Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 17, 2023, 02:40:39 PM
As a brony, yes... I admit I likely screwed up with Tales... we all did. The silly thing is, I already knew that there was no G2 cartoon, because I'd already heard there wasn't one, but then by pure chance I stumbled up My Little Pony Tales, and for a moment, I probably did think "Wait... is this G2?" because I don't think I fully got how things worked...

I soon got it though, I got that the generations are based on the toylines, so I got it, and I do find myself correcting others that Tales is G1; not G2, not G1.5, G1.

I will say, it isn't always bronies, even though we are the worst offenders - I'm sure I remember arguing with someone who had grown up with Tales, and they thought it was G2, but I could be remembering it wrong (and could have said this before)... either way, the world can at least rest easy that at least one brony (me) got the message that Tales is G1. :silly:
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: CherryTreats on July 17, 2023, 06:59:31 PM
1. G1 because it was the start of it all and what I first knew of as MLP. It had ponies that looked the most like ponies (I love horses). It had a huge, fun variety of ponies and it lasted the longest. The ponies seem high quality. I have ponies decades old that still look perfect. The backcard art was the best and they had such great accessories and playsets, mail orders, etc. Plus, I absolutely loved the episodes, the movie and all the pony songs.

2. G3 because the ponies also looked the most like ponies and there was such a large number of ponies (though not as much variety like in G1--I'd have loved to see Big Brother G3 ponies). I don't think the episodes and movies of G3 were as good, but I did like them. I remember watching two G3 movies in theaters and was surprised any got to be in theaters. I loved the G3s so much and collected a ton of them, but I'm disappointed in the quality of the toys--I feel like the G3s plastic is deteriorating a lot faster than G1s.

2. G4 because of the amazing show and movies and the memorable ponies. I especially love Maud Pie and Fluttershy. I wasn't a fan of the toys at first, but once I watched the show, I liked the toys too and I collected a couple dozen or so.

2. G2 - they did not really look like horses anymore so I wasn't as fond of them and unfortunately, they had no show, though I enjoyed the PC game with them. I did like them and collected them. Even though I am not as fond of the toys, they do evoke happy memories and my favorite is Eve.

3. G5 - I love the movie, but the toys just don't seem as much like MLP that much to me. I bought a set of them, but am probably going to get rid of them, except for maybe Sunny and Izzy, as I like them the most in the movie.

4. G4.5 - are these the ones that look cat like? Those don't really seem like MLP to me. I did buy Potion Nova for some reason. G3.5 don't seem much like MLP to me either though and I never bought any of those.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 17, 2023, 07:05:27 PM
G3 Big Brothers would have been adorable!
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Ponybookworm on July 18, 2023, 12:12:07 AM
G3 Big Brothers would have been adorable!
The lack of G3 boys is the reason my fave bait Pony is a clone pose earth G3 of five of the Core 7. I take one of them, add Apoxie Sculpt hoof feathers, dye or paint if needed, reroot, add new symbol, redo eyes (single-colour irises), & boom!!! G3 Boy Pony!!!
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Carrehz on July 18, 2023, 06:39:13 AM
I disagree that Lil Litters etc is like G1.5, it never took over the line like G3.5/G4.5 did. To me it's only a .5 if it's the only thing they're making, otherwise it's just a sideline.

I think bronies just... didn't grasp that there were G2 toys, didn't bother to check if there was perhaps a toyline that didn't have a corresponding cartoon, because to them the cartoon was the main thing. I can understand misunderstanding, but that "Tales is G1.5" thing they made up really annoyed me...
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 18, 2023, 07:21:14 AM
G3 Big Brothers would have been adorable!
The lack of G3 boys is the reason my fave bait Pony is a clone pose earth G3 of five of the Core 7. I take one of them, add Apoxie Sculpt hoof feathers, dye or paint if needed, reroot, add new symbol, redo eyes (single-colour irises), & boom!!! G3 Boy Pony!!!

:lovey:

Post Merge: July 18, 2023, 09:27:35 AM

I disagree that Lil Litters etc is like G1.5, it never took over the line like G3.5/G4.5 did. To me it's only a .5 if it's the only thing they're making, otherwise it's just a sideline.

I think bronies just... didn't grasp that there were G2 toys, didn't bother to check if there was perhaps a toyline that didn't have a corresponding cartoon, because to them the cartoon was the main thing. I can understand misunderstanding, but that "Tales is G1.5" thing they made up really annoyed me...

They don't listen and argue that what they decide overrides obvious facts. That's their problem. I've had too many state such things. There's a difference between not knowing and being belligerent and willfully ignorant.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on July 18, 2023, 09:54:09 AM

I will say, it isn't always bronies, even though we are the worst offenders - I'm sure I remember arguing with someone who had grown up with Tales, and they thought it was G2, but I could be remembering it wrong (and could have said this before)... either way, the world can at least rest easy that at least one brony (me) got the message that Tales is G1. :silly:

Being a brony =/= growing up with G4. It would have been impossible for anyone to pick up that mindset in the older gen community, because of how the G terms came about. Anyone who had been an active older gen fan prior to G4 would also know G2 was an extant toyline, and so wouldn't call Tales G2.

It's always been called 'Tales', but the 'Tales ponies' has only ever referred to the 7 ponies known by Hasbro as the 'Seven Characters', rather than the entire release lines from 1993/4.

The thing is, G4's main cast of characters have been reproduced over and over as toys, and MOST of the G4 toyline have appeared in the series. Tales isn't like that (no G1 animation is), but I suspect most of the bronies who call Tales G2 are blissfully ignorant of all the unanimated ponies on sale in 1993 and 1994, almost all of whom use established or modified G1 poses...

Going mildly off topic, but
Spoiler
since animation in G1 was basically advertising, I've always wondered about the target audience of the Tales eps. It was undoubtedly made in the US, and aired there - but the content has always raised some eyebrows with me. The ponies play football, and that centres particularly around Ace, although men's football at the time was relatively unknown in the US. Tales predated the US world cup in 94, even. Maybe it's just easier for them to animate - but they made Clover and Meadowlark dance, so I don't think so!

The biggest questionmark for me, though, is when starglow and co appear, they're called 'Glowing Magical Ponies'. In the UK, we call that set Glowing Magic ponies. The US name is Glow & Show. In 1992, Glowing Magic ponies were still in stores in the UK. So were the Rockin' Beats - who are also included in the animation.

It's probably impossible to know for sure, but it feels as though the show was made for European or UK release, as the toys in the US weren't continuing.

Not a new generation, obviously. But interesting nonetheless.
Also, for clarity, I don't think there is a G1.5. I agree with Carrehz that there's no obvious division for any G1 gimmick that makes sense for that kind of division. Bronies don't have an awareness of how collectors saw/divided/thought about MLP prior to G4.

The distinction in the late 1990s between 'old ponies' (G1) and 'new ponies' was quite emphatic and sometimes even hostile. You never saw anyone pipe in with, 'but maybe there are subcategories of the old ponies!'.

As I said before, Hasbro made no distinction, and nor did stores in stocking ponies in the same aisle. Even Sky 1, who aired all the MLP animation in the UK in 1995, didn't split them. They called it all My Little Pony and Friends, although they aired everything from RAMC to Tales and then round again. My sister's friend taped them and even though they had the right opening titles, the Tales eps were broadcast as MLP and Friends.

The thing is that, unlike all subsequent gens, G1 didn't really have an overriding action plan. You can't subdivide something that feels like they literally went into the office every year and went, what will we do this time? LOL! Even G2 had repeated characters and there's a clear attempt to keep them alive through the line (like Ivy, Lightheart, Sunsparkle, etc). G1 did have a few repeats but it almost seems incidental.

There's really no difference between selling Cherries Jubilee and then flocking her as a so soft, and selling Starlight and then pearlising her as a hairdo pony.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 18, 2023, 10:07:48 AM

I will say, it isn't always bronies, even though we are the worst offenders - I'm sure I remember arguing with someone who had grown up with Tales, and they thought it was G2, but I could be remembering it wrong (and could have said this before)... either way, the world can at least rest easy that at least one brony (me) got the message that Tales is G1. :silly:

But you would have had that conversation post the beginning of G4, thus that person was probably influenced by the very vocal attempts of bronydom to redefine MLP entirely according to their animation preference. It doesn't matter what gen they grew up with. It matters what influenced them since - and you almost certainly had that discussion in brony space, so that person would've been surrounded by people saying it was G2.

Being a brony =/= growing up with G4.

The thing is, as I said before, the labels G1 and G2 didn't even exist till G3. LM will confirm it was borrowed from the Transformer community, since old ponies and new ponies couldn't wash when even newer ponies came out in 2003. There was such a consciousness about G1 and G2 being different, that those labels were always collective. The .5 was first in G3, towards the end.

Nobody tried to define MLP by animation until bronies happened.

Going mildly off topic, but since animation in G1 was basically advertising, I've always wondered about the target audience of the Tales eps. It was undoubtedly made in the US, and aired there - but the content has always raised some eyebrows with me. The ponies play football - which at the time was relatively unknown in the US. It predated the US world cup in 94, even. Maybe it's just easier for them to animate - but they made Clover and Meadowlark dance, so I don't think so!

The biggest questionmark for me, though, is when starglow and co appear, they're called 'Glowing Magical Ponies'. In the UK, we call that set Glowing Magic ponies. The US name is Glow & Show. In 1992, Glowing Magic ponies were still in stores in the UK. So were the Rockin' Beats - who are also included in the animation.

It's probably impossible to know for sure, but it feels as though the show was made for European or UK release, as the toys in the US weren't continuing.

Not a new generation, obviously. But interesting nonetheless.

Even further off topic. My brain always has to stall and reshuffle to remember that the rest of the world calls it football. ^^;

I can answer that part anyway.  AYSO (American Youth Soccer Organzation) was a very popular sporty thing to put your kids in, during the 80s and 90s. (And soccer/football was popular during the 70s as well.) So it would make sense to have the Tales ponies playing soccer.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on July 18, 2023, 10:19:16 AM
LOL I just put that bit in spoilers as it is sort of off topic.

That is interesting, but it doesn't explain the Glowing Magical ponies...
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Leave a Whisper on July 18, 2023, 10:20:47 AM
LOL I just put that bit in spoilers as it is sort of off topic.

That is interesting, but it doesn't explain the Glowing Magical ponies...

Aliens  :shrug: :silly:
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: MJNSEIFER on July 18, 2023, 10:58:58 AM
I will say, it isn't always bronies, even though we are the worst offenders - I'm sure I remember arguing with someone who had grown up with Tales, and they thought it was G2, but I could be remembering it wrong (and could have said this before)... either way, the world can at least rest easy that at least one brony (me) got the message that Tales is G1. :silly:
But you would have had that conversation post the beginning of G4, thus that person was probably influenced by the very vocal attempts of bronydom to redefine MLP entirely according to their animation preference. It doesn't matter what gen they grew up with. It matters what influenced them since - and you almost certainly had that discussion in brony space, so that person would've been surrounded by people saying it was G2.

Being a brony =/= growing up with G4. It would have been impossible for anyone to pick up that mindset in the older gen community, because of how the G terms came about. Anyone who had been an active older gen fan prior to G4 would also know G2 was an extant toyline, and so wouldn't call Tales G2.

Not sure if I'm supposed to see the first paragraph or not (if you deleted it, I apologize for bringing it back), but for the record, it was YouTube, and yeah it likely was in the throws of bronydom (I got  into Tales in around 2014, so it would have been during or after that year), but yeah... that was probably it; even if it was someone who "grew up with Tales" they were probably mislead by bronies defining it as G2 - good point.

Again, I don't even remember for sure it was someone who grew up with Tales, or even watched it as a kid - I just remember that they liked it. I think I may have even been wrong to say "argument" - I just corrected them, and they pointed out that they were just saying that they liked a character (I can't remember if it went back and forth or not.)

Thank you for the information about how it basically was back then.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on July 19, 2023, 10:41:34 AM
I didn't delete anything except in an attempt to try and make my post shorter *lol*. There's nothing in either your quote or LAW's that's a problem, it was just a very long post after I was done xD.

Bronies did take over YT and did target older gen videos and clips for some reason best known only to them. I would call YT brony space.

When I say brony, of course I'm not talking about every G4 fan, but the idea of Tales as G2 was a brony invention. It just would never have come up prior, because G2 actually existed and, until G4, MLP wasn't seen by anyone as an animation-driven franchise. G4 changed it completely - which is fine, but can't be retroactively applied, especially by people with little/no interest/knowledge of anything pre-2011.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: BlackCurtains on July 19, 2023, 10:50:32 AM
Bronies did take over YT and did target older gen videos and clips for some reason best known only to them.

This is why I took down my videos when I was researching age spots and I did those microscope slides? It was attacked by bronies saying things like "G1 sure is a cancer!" and other uncool things.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Queen Sophie on July 19, 2023, 11:51:51 AM
Bronies did take over YT and did target older gen videos and clips for some reason best known only to them.

This is why I took down my videos when I was researching age spots and I did those microscope slides? It was attacked by bronies saying things like "G1 sure is a cancer!" and other uncool things.

What is wrong with them?! I really don’t get how they think it’s not hypocritical to hate on a gen while still loving another gen that made it! Those people make my brony friends look bad but the good thing is that the hate isn’t as strong as it used to be in fact, I talk to some that like pre g4 gens
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on July 20, 2023, 12:42:09 AM
To be honest I think it's 100% fine for a fan of G4 not to like older generations, or G5. We all have our preferences. Where it went wrong was the targeting of G1-3 stuff (like BC's video) just for the sake of causing upset and tension. It's not like there's never been tension before - G1 to G2 was messy like that - but with the internet the way it is now, the toxicity was multiplied several hundredfold - and enabled by all the media talking about MLP fans as though all pony fans were bronies and there never was a community prior to G4.

It's ok not to like something. But not okay to go into the space belonging to those who love it to cause harm.

It's also ok not to know everything about something, providing you're not then steamrollering over the fans of that thing by trying to redefine what it is.

I can only assume it was born out of insecurity of being only generation 4. Not wanting to recognise how much G4 depends on G1 and G3 in particular. A desire to erase the inconvenience of an existing fandom so they could feel like they were My Little Pony and pony fans.

I don't think it's surprising that many older gen fans are now not that friendly towards G4 or its fandom.

That all said,  the few times I did see into the brony space, it was pretty internally toxic as well. It's sad that that got attached to something we'd long since considered precious, and that the only way they knew how to show their 'love' for something was to try and destroy everything around it.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: SunbeamV on July 26, 2023, 08:42:43 AM
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anyway

1) g3 - i think they really refined and improved upon the classic ideas and aesthetics
2) g1 - cant go wrong with the classic!
3) g5 - the toyline leaves a lot to be desired but i think the general concepts feel Very mlp
4) g2 - nothing against it, it just had a very short run in the pre-internet days so i dont think it made as much of a lasting impression
5) g4 - tried too hard to be a tv show "fandom" and pander to adult bronies, often at the expense of the target audience (children). made hasbro obsessed and sick in the head about having a "core line". did irreversible damage to the collecting community. (as we can see in this thread, they even tried to manplain older gens to us). dont get me wrong i still enjoyed g4 but all of the collateral damage was just very.... not what mlp is or should be about
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on July 26, 2023, 11:04:10 AM
G2 ran from 1997-2002 or 2003 iirc. I'm going to sound really old now, but I was online in 1997 (from a library PC), and had internet (dial up!) at home from spring 1998. I was here for the whoooole "new ponies vs old ponies" civil war that blew up around them - newsgroups and mailing lists ahoy.

They did have a very short US release run, true enough, but there was definitely internet when G2 were around. And a pony community as well.

I don't suppose it was the right kind, but I think anyone old enough to remember that period would probably agree they 'made an impression' of sorts...

But reflecting on it now, the ages of many of us back then were comparable to the ages of most bronies now. I was 15 in 1997 - so 16 when the war broke out *lol*. It makes me wonder whether, if the net had been then what it is now, the G2 thing would've exploded much worse than it did. At times it was plenty unpleasant. I wrote this thing back in 2000 because of the online G2 squabbling - G2 were still in stores (at least in Europe) back then.

https://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/ponydream.htm (https://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/ponydream.htm)

In my personal experience 2000 was a particularly nasty year, but even by that point a couple of sites/people had been driven offline - either because they loved G2 or because they hated G2. :/

I don't remember what the pro G2 people went by, though. I just remember the Shadows and someone circulating an image of Gusty (?) killing a G2 pony which at the time was pretty shocking given the size of the community/etc. (You probably wouldn't even notice one image like that now in a sea of brony art).

I also love that spoiler xD.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Ponybookworm on July 26, 2023, 02:27:12 PM
Sunbeam your spoiler is a classic xxx  :haha: :haha: :haha:
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: SunbeamV on July 27, 2023, 07:12:19 AM
G2 ran from 1997-2002 or 2003 iirc. I'm going to sound really old now, but I was online in 1997 (from a library PC), and had internet (dial up!) at home from spring 1998. I was here for the whoooole "new ponies vs old ponies" civil war that blew up around them - newsgroups and mailing lists ahoy.

They did have a very short US release run, true enough, but there was definitely internet when G2 were around. And a pony community as well.

I don't suppose it was the right kind, but I think anyone old enough to remember that period would probably agree they 'made an impression' of sorts...

But reflecting on it now, the ages of many of us back then were comparable to the ages of most bronies now. I was 15 in 1997 - so 16 when the war broke out *lol*. It makes me wonder whether, if the net had been then what it is now, the G2 thing would've exploded much worse than it did. At times it was plenty unpleasant. I wrote this thing back in 2000 because of the online G2 squabbling - G2 were still in stores (at least in Europe) back then.

https://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/ponydream.htm (https://www.etherella.com/scrapbook2/ponydream.htm)

In my personal experience 2000 was a particularly nasty year, but even by that point a couple of sites/people had been driven offline - either because they loved G2 or because they hated G2. :/

I don't remember what the pro G2 people went by, though. I just remember the Shadows and someone circulating an image of Gusty (?) killing a G2 pony which at the time was pretty shocking given the size of the community/etc. (You probably wouldn't even notice one image like that now in a sea of brony art).

I also love that spoiler xD.

oh yeah, i've read up on the g2 drama and i don't doubt it was huge for its time, but everyone still seemed pretty skeptical of the internet in the 90s so i feel like people sort of put less stock into what was going on with it if that makes sense? i was still super duper young but i remember things like bowienet being pretty "out there"- he (bowie) was convinced the internet would become something bigger than we could comprehend at the time, and a lot of people thought he was totally off his rocker for it  :lol:

we also dont have a lot of old internet backed up, so a fair amount of early internet drama is ultimately lost to time. but even if it wasnt, you're so right, it would probably be incredibly tame by today's standards after what we've seen with bronies  :blink:

so i guess my take isnt so much that g2 had "less" of a legacy/impact, it's just inaccessible to most people on today's internet. maybe that's ok. goodness knows i hope the insane brony stuff disappears into the void someday, too. lol
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Carrehz on July 28, 2023, 06:39:43 AM
SunbeamV that spoiler is a hoot :lmao:

G2 ran for longer outside the US... up until G3 started in some countries, I believe.

we also dont have a lot of old internet backed up,

The Wayback Machine (http://web.archive.org/) begs to differ ;) Though I suppose most forums and such are long gone.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 30, 2023, 07:48:47 AM
G1 feels the most MLP to me, then G3.

G2, G4, and G5 are all tied.  None of them give me the full MLP vibe, but none of them are totally off the mark.

After that: G3.5 and G4.5.

Then Dream Beauties.  They are very beautiful! I like them a lot more than some of the gens I previously mentioned! But they aren't My Little Ponies.  They're just horses.  They aren't even smiling.  Because they're just horses who live in a barn and poop in their stalls.

Then Newborn Cuties. They aren't ponies either.  They're freaky human babies.

Dead last: Equestria Girls, which aren't even pretending to be ponies.

Edit:  Oh yeah, the late 90s / early 2000s were wild times.  I didn't like the "new ponies" (as G2s were called at the time) and I remember some girl called me a Nazi because of that; she said that not liking the new ponies was "the same as belonging to a hate group."  Like, girl, get a grip.  They're just toys.  I remember just ROASTING her in response.

Looking back, and looking around at the current fandoms on the internet, it's pretty obvious that teenagers just like to fight over dumb things.  (Most of the MLP collecting community was teens or young twenty-somethings at the time.)  But at least the 90s MLP community mostly just insulted each other via emails.  On today's internet I've seen teens actually dox people over such important issues as . . . "I don't like that that person ships such-and-such anime characters, they are Problematic *frowny face*".  More problematic than doxxing people??

I can't wait for Twitter to finish dying.

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The thing is, as I said before, the labels G1 and G2 didn't even exist till G3. LM will confirm it was borrowed from the Transformer community, since old ponies and new ponies couldn't wash when even newer ponies came out in 2003. There was such a consciousness about G1 and G2 being different, that those labels were always collective. The .5 was first in G3, towards the end.

Yep!  Man, I wish the old MLPTP board was still up.  If anyone knows how to use The Wayback Machine on a message board then lmk.  But yeah, a few years ago when it was still up I was like "I vaguely remember the Generation 1 etc thing coming from Transformers, I wonder who suggested it" and when I looked up the conversation on the old MLPTP, it was meeee, lol. I should have known.

I made a post about it on Tumblr, I should post it here too!

When (what is now called) G3.5 came out there was actually a lot of debate, and you probably CAN find that on the newer MLPTP and on these boards.  Some people wanted to call it G4, since the molds were different.  Others said it should still be G3, because the characters and setting were the same. And some people had this argument that I always found baffling:  they believed there had to be a "break" where Hasbro wasn't producing ponies in order to kick off a new generation.  Because there'd been breaks between G1/G2 and G2/G3 (even though there actually wasn't a gap between G2 and G3 in, like, France.)

Nobody really makes the gap argument anymore, ha ha.

Anyway, we ended up splitting the difference and calling the new molds G3.5;  at the end of the day we were toy collectors and it was important to understand whether an eBay auction was for a G3 Pinkie Pie versus a G3.5 Pinkie Pie.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on July 31, 2023, 04:53:31 AM
I actually think SunbeamV is right about things having gone into the ether. The wayback machine requires quite specific knowledge to dig up individual sites and such, it also would require incredible luck (and possibly a means of bypassing logins) for forum discussions. But the most of the discussions around G2 - by which I mean the arguing side - weren't even on forums. The TP was the first space to do that, I forget exactly when, but the G2 controversy blew up mainly on individual people's websites (things that were on the ring of rainbows, probably, some of which disappeared a really long time ago) and on newsgroups and mailing lists. Most of these do not exist any longer.

I still have some saved data files which I have from old PC backups but whether I could open any of them now is questionable. To put it in context, most of these are backed up on floppy disk. Yep. So there we are.

There was also the DC chat and the DV chat. Of course there aren't any records of those.

There were also AIM, ICQ chats which probably nobody still has anything relating to by now.

I think back then the internet was a place where people could go and rediscover things that had disappeared from everyday life. So nostalgia was a part of it. But yeah, we were all pretty young (with a few exceptions of course). I think we also none of us really knew how to behave online, because there hadn't been any internet before we were there playing around with it.

I think there's a lot that I know now that would change my engagement with the internet in 1997-8ish if I could go back and do it again.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: LadyMoondancer on July 31, 2023, 07:03:43 AM
Oh, same.  I look back and I'm like . . . maybe toy ponies didn't really require my dramatics, maybe I could have not worried about what other people thought and been a little kinder, a little less hot-blooded.  I do feel very privileged to have been on the internet at that time, though.  It was so much less commercial.  Even with the arguments, being part of the MLP community was a blast.  A really special time.

A lot of community discussions were also on the Ponypeople Mailing List!  I remember when people would go on there and be like "Please no one bid on this eBay auction because I want to win it" (until they made a rule against that, lol.)

There's a Tumblr called Old Web MLP that digs up old MLP sites!  I love it.

https://oldwebmlp.tumblr.com/ (https://oldwebmlp.tumblr.com/)

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Who remembers FLAT BED SCANNERS?
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: Taffeta on August 01, 2023, 12:38:37 AM
Oh, the pony-in-the-scanner was the height of modern tech at the time! 90% of pony auctions on ebay, and also trades, were done on word descriptions only, but throwing a pony in the scanner did become more popular as time went on. When I started making my website, I had two ways of adding photos. One was taking a physical photo, getting it developed and posting it up online and the other was to toss the pony in the scanner xD.

Some terrifying images resulted.

I remember the ponypeople ML, it's one reason I still call pony collectors ponypeople - but I know there was also another one. We also had a UK list which Tic Tac Toe set up, although not all the members were from the UK.

There were some not so pleasant things in that pony community but I also remember it as a fairly close-knit space where people mostly knew each other. I mean, we had the name registry and so on, and we'd get together to monitor known scammers on the mailing lists so that we knew what they were doing and could prevent them from creating more trouble.

And despite the fact most everything was in cash until paypal happened, I think that there's far more risk of being scammed these days than there was back then...since hardly anyone outside of the community knew ponies were worth anything, and most folk didn't care at all.
Title: Re: In order which generation feels most like my little pony to you?
Post by: FernMariposa919 on August 29, 2023, 02:12:55 PM
Honestly, G1 is the only one that feels truly like MLP to me. That's the generation I grew up with and know the best. I haven't really "studied" the other generations to know them that well, though I know what the toys looks like and even then I still think G1 is the best, but I may be a bit biased!  :biggrin: ;)
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