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Title: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: MANIMAL! on September 10, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
What is going on with the new heads? They are fatter, and they have lines running from the ears to the forehead. They're clearly meant to look the same (not a new pose). So what is the change?

I know you have all noticed this too. Between my Sunset Shimmer and my Chrysalis pack, all the normal-sized ponies have these new, cheap-looking heads. Cadence got a new molded head too!

Does anyone have any ideas why they made this change? The new heads look more like fakie heads than Hasbro heads. And the plastic they are made out of looks cheaper too. It's making the newer ponies hard-to-love. . .
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Starly on September 10, 2013, 10:40:18 AM
Err, pretty sure the only difference in the plastic is that it matches the body plastic now so less mismatch issues. I don't prefer it, but it's not terrible.

It seems a bit insulting to see official G4 things referred to as 'fakie-like' and real fakies being praised and sought after...
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: SilverRains on September 10, 2013, 11:25:24 AM
From customizing experience, the new heads are easier to pull off and put back on. They barely look different to me. If I didn't spend so much time looking at them, I don't think I'd even have noticed a difference.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: hathorcat on September 10, 2013, 02:01:35 PM
I did for a while think it may be to tighten up on the colour difference but some of the recent releases are disproving that theory.

I would imagine there is nothing more behind it than it being a cheaper manufacture option or a more efficient manufacture process. Or even a move to a different factory/supplier.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: shabbychicdee on September 10, 2013, 02:11:59 PM
i really like the new head shape but not the nasty lines, but some are worse then the others. i gota say my new lyra is so much nicer looking then my old lyra. i just got in the new lyrica and she had minimal lines on her head but her body was terribly lined :( i will have to try and buff it back or something but she might be a factory era being like that.
however all mine so far have a lovely matching head body thing going on :lol: yay

btw i thought that new cadance was changed too, good to know for sure now.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: reanna-mator on September 10, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
Not the heads, but has anyone noticed that some G4s have a broader stance? Their front and back legs are set farther apart. I really notice this with glittery Pinkie Pie.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: shabbychicdee on September 10, 2013, 02:52:51 PM
i will have to look see for that diff. in mine.

a little of topic with the brushables but with my FS glittery rainbowdash she seems thinner and a little taller then my other dash
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Pythia on September 10, 2013, 03:32:56 PM


It seems a bit insulting to see official G4 things referred to as 'fakie-like' and real fakies being praised and sought after...

How is it insulting? if the fakies have better quality than the Hasbro releases, why shouldn't they be more sought after? :P
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: shabbychicdee on September 10, 2013, 03:38:42 PM


It seems a bit insulting to see official G4 things referred to as 'fakie-like' and real fakies being praised and sought after...

How is it insulting? if the fakies have better quality than the Hasbro releases, why shouldn't they be more sought after? :P
totally agree
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Starly on September 10, 2013, 05:07:47 PM
But... They don't... Urgh... Whatever...
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: MANIMAL! on September 10, 2013, 05:09:32 PM
i really like the new head shape but not the nasty lines, but some are worse then the others. i gota say my new lyra is so much nicer looking then my old lyra.


WHAT?! I was thinking exactly the opposite, as in, "What am I going to do with this ugly new Lyra?!" The head/body mismatches didn't ever stand out much to me. But the fatness of the new heads drives me crazy!

Let's all post pics! That's always fun!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Winter Bones on September 10, 2013, 05:35:38 PM
Let's all post pics! That's always fun!

Aww heck, I'll bite. I need a good excuse to play with my new bakery anyway. Time for some five minute photography.

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I'm guessing Mrs. Cake has the new head you're talking about, since I noticed some seams on the side of her face and ears my older G4s don't have, and her nose and cheeks are a bit wider than the others. Seams aside, the new head doesn't bother me much. She doesn't look all that different at a glance and the hat totally makes up for it anyway. :)
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: MANIMAL! on September 10, 2013, 05:52:14 PM
Let's all post pics! That's always fun!

Aww heck, I'll bite. I need a good excuse to play with my new bakery anyway. Time for some five minute photography.

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I'm guessing Mrs. Cake has the new head you're talking about, since I noticed some seams on the side of her face and ears my older G4s don't have, and her nose and cheeks are a bit wider than the others. Seams aside, the new head doesn't bother me much. She doesn't look all that different at a glance and the hat totally makes up for it anyway. :)

Hooray!!! How's the quality of her hair?
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Winter Bones on September 10, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
It feels very slightly coarser than the others, but that's probably because she hasn't been spa'd and styled yet. Minty's hair was a bit coarse too before I conditioned it but now it's soft as silk. I did notice some strands of hair coming from Mrs. Cake's neck hole when I examined her though. Some things never change. >_<
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: phoenixsoul85 on September 10, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
Thank goodness.  I thought that I was the only one who noticed this.  I collect miniature plastic figures for a table top war game and they often have the same seem problem.  We tend to use a metal file and were able to smooth it our really well.  Not sure if it will work on ponies.  I would suggest trying in an inconspicuous spot.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Foxtale on September 10, 2013, 08:10:47 PM
I haven't deboxed any of my ponies lately (and they have gone into storage).

Can someone post distinct images of the differences?

I am led to believe it must have something to do with the manufacturing process. Since they only have 2 head molds basically for normal sized ponies (discluding the princesses and boys) their molds got so used they probably needed to be replaced and that was a prime time to address any issue (minor or large) in production (whether quality, color, cost, etc). This is only my guess though. :P I'm curious to see the difference.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Snapdragon on September 10, 2013, 08:49:11 PM
It seems a bit insulting to see official G4 things referred to as 'fakie-like' and real fakies being praised and sought after...

Don't worry, no one's implying that people who like the new heads are wrong, different strokes for different folks, you know? No need to take anything personally! :hug:
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: MANIMAL! on September 10, 2013, 08:54:16 PM
different strokes for different folks, you know? No need to take anything personally! :hug:

WRONG! My strokes for ALL FOLKS!

Post Merge: September 10, 2013, 08:56:55 PM

Oh, and here's a photo. I'll try to take a better one of head lines and such in the morning. Notice how hideous "fat-head" Lyra is compared to normal Lyra.

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And here are all the fat-head ponies in a row!

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And here is a picture of ponies that has nothing to do with this topic!

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Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Shiromisa on September 10, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
I honestly don't understand this debate. XD They look nearly identical to me, certainly too similar to have a preference, or even to notice a difference if it's not specifically pointed out.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: spottedslug on September 10, 2013, 09:08:10 PM
I honestly don't understand this debate. XD They look nearly identical to me, certainly too similar to have a preference, or even to notice a difference if it's not specifically pointed out.

*nod nod*

I had to really look to figure out which one was which!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: diamondshy on September 10, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
I honestly don't understand this debate. XD They look nearly identical to me, certainly too similar to have a preference, or even to notice a difference if it's not specifically pointed out.

Me too, I've been staring at those Lyras for so long my eyes are starting to cross.  XD

Digging the customs in the bottom pic though~
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Shiromisa on September 10, 2013, 09:11:49 PM
I honestly don't understand this debate. XD They look nearly identical to me, certainly too similar to have a preference, or even to notice a difference if it's not specifically pointed out.

Me too, I've been staring at those Lyras for so long my eyes are starting to cross.  XD

Digging the customs in the bottom pic though~
I've done this with two Pinkie Pies (the suitcase one vs. the masquerade one) in real life and I still don't get it!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: MANIMAL! on September 10, 2013, 09:16:11 PM
I honestly don't understand this debate. XD They look nearly identical to me, certainly too similar to have a preference, or even to notice a difference if it's not specifically pointed out.

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Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Flitter on September 10, 2013, 09:47:09 PM
I've posted this image before but here's another Lyra comparison

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Older wedding version on the left, newer fav. collection ver on the right
The new head mold is rounder in the cheeks. I actually think it's cuter but don't like that the mold seam line is visible on many of the newer ones.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: will2Bfree on September 10, 2013, 10:03:31 PM
I honestly don't understand this debate. XD They look nearly identical to me, certainly too similar to have a preference, or even to notice a difference if it's not specifically pointed out.

*nod nod*

I had to really look to figure out which one was which!

I noticed the difference the first time it was used without anyone pointing it out. You don't have to be super observant to notice when they change something you really like for the worse (worse is my opinion). I think the old heads were much cuter, I don't like these fat faced ones. The angle of the muzzle on the older ones had a much sweeter look to them, while the new ones heads are tilted higher in a perkier look. I don't think they're hideous, but I certainly hope they don't start making all the releases with this head mold. I might have gotten over it if it fixed the head/body mismatch problem, which I originally thought was the point of it, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Instead, it's just introduced more problems such as the seam issue.

I didn't even realize until you posted that picture how huge it makes the head look in comparison to the body size, too. Yikes. It might seem subtle, but it sure makes a big difference. Like I said, I don't hate them, I just really preferred the older mold. It'll definitely make me think twice before I buy any more. It almost reminds me of the creepy muzzled stuffed ponies. :(
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: sweetapple on September 10, 2013, 10:24:01 PM
I totally agree with will2Bfree
I made a topic on this a while back--for those who still have trouble noticing the difference, these ones are as clear as day. Definitely like the old mold better!

http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,328721.msg737075.html#msg737075
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Shiromisa on September 10, 2013, 10:36:52 PM
I totally agree with will2Bfree
I made a topic on this a while back--for those who still have trouble noticing the difference, these ones are as clear as day. Definitely like the old mold better!

http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,328721.msg737075.html#msg737075
I'll agree with the muzzle, and the seam lines are annoying. But people keep calling them fat, and I just don't see it unless I actively look for it. I still do not understand. :s
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Snapdragon on September 10, 2013, 11:43:01 PM
different strokes for different folks, you know? No need to take anything personally! :hug:

WRONG! My strokes for ALL FOLKS!

DO YOU WANNA GO!?!!? LET'S GO!!!

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After I'm done fighting you, I will thank you for the comparison photos! I can't see much difference in the size of the head myself, but the shininess in the picture unnerves me. The vinyl they use in the body is so bleck, I'm really worried this will muck things up in the customizing realm as well!! D:
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Starly on September 11, 2013, 12:43:39 AM
I totally agree with will2Bfree
I made a topic on this a while back--for those who still have trouble noticing the difference, these ones are as clear as day. Definitely like the old mold better!

http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,328721.msg737075.html#msg737075
I'll agree with the muzzle, and the seam lines are annoying. But people keep calling them fat, and I just don't see it unless I actively look for it. I still do not understand. :s
I agree entirely, its a BARELY noticable difference, and I;m a person who checks every single G4 pony for the initals placed between it's plug holes just to see what head mold it has, and if it doesn't bother me..then it shouldn't be a big deal.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: achab1984 on September 11, 2013, 06:18:25 AM
To me I don't really care if they are a little different. They are still cute looking. And the little lines on them, I just accept them.  These are meant for little kids and they would not care about this.  But its awesome to hear that the heads are more easy to get off :)
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: MANIMAL! on September 11, 2013, 06:17:30 PM
These are meant for little kids and they would not care about this.  But its awesome to hear that the heads are more easy to get off :)

The fact that kids don't care is PRECISELY why we must protect them from these new fat-head ponies! Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children!!!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Marigold on September 11, 2013, 06:27:11 PM
Why is everyone hating on fat ponies. Curves ponies are beautiful too!  They are all real ponies, fat or thin!  ;)
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Winter Bones on September 11, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
Why is everyone hating on fat ponies. Curves ponies are beautiful too!  They are all real ponies, fat or thin!  ;)

Unless they're changelings in disguise. Begone foul impostor!

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Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Prince Primbrose on September 11, 2013, 07:27:02 PM
I totally agree with will2Bfree
I made a topic on this a while back--for those who still have trouble noticing the difference, these ones are as clear as day. Definitely like the old mold better!

http://mlparena.com/index.php/topic,328721.msg737075.html#msg737075

Ohhh, thank you for the link! I can see the differences now. The higher muzzle looks really cute.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: brittney_rochelle on September 11, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
I just opened the Sunset Shimmer that my wonderful boyfriend bought me today. Not only does she have dirt on her face and neck, I can see the mold lines and that REALLY bugs me. Oh well.

I, for one, LOVE the new faces!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: sd_dreamcrystal on September 11, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Didn't notice the seam till I saw that topic.. then again I wasn't looking in the first place...
I'm not fond of the rounder heads really.. They look kind of awkward to me plus make the bodies look much smaller (at least in some views) x.x But that's just how it looks to me
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Aitsuki on September 11, 2013, 09:45:07 PM
I don't mind the new heads. Not a big deal... except on the fan favorites collection Cadence. Her face looks pinched and weird..
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: brightberry on September 11, 2013, 10:09:26 PM
I've posted this image before but here's another Lyra comparison

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Older wedding version on the left, newer fav. collection ver on the right
The new head mold is rounder in the cheeks. I actually think it's cuter but don't like that the mold seam line is visible on many of the newer ones.
Ooo... I agree. I also think she looks cuter that way.  But not a big enough difference to replace the one I have.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Minty Starshine on October 11, 2013, 11:45:53 AM
Here are my comparisons:

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Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: SeashellnBubbles on October 11, 2013, 02:29:22 PM
I noticed the different number of lashes first...on some of them, like the little fillies, I think the new faces are cute, the chubby faces are definately more noticble in direct comparison, but isn't anything I'd really find annoying one way or another. Give me chubby faces with new eyes, ear position, new body molds! Cripes!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Alatariel-Silimaure on October 11, 2013, 03:23:36 PM
hmm... I haven't seen any in person, but from the pictures.... I kinda like the new ones better o.o....
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Minty Starshine on October 11, 2013, 04:41:42 PM
Personally, I like the old heads better. I wouldn't mind a chubbier head if they didn't have so many flaws (like the mold lines appearing in almost every single one) but also look as if they simply ballooned the heads. The raised heads make them look as if they're standing at attention. Good luck on getting any of your ponies to appear as if they're looking directly at each other anymore as they'll be staring at each other's foreheads instead. They also made the eyes wider apart so it seems unnatural, especially considering the character designs in the show.

Also, if anyone has seen the new Fluttershy, the poor thing looks like she's about to exclaim, "My GOD IT'S FULL OF STARS!!!"

The unicorns suffered the most, in my opinion. Poor Lyra looks like she's been stuffing her snout into the potato chips for a week and she's bloated from all the salt. :(
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Ice Crystal on October 11, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
Ohh, I prefer the old mold too, but I think it depends on the eyes? I think Sunset Shimmer looks lovely but Lyra did not fare as well.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Sunshine on October 11, 2013, 06:07:16 PM
I can see the difference pretty obviously in the photos... butttt I think I truly have no opinion in real life. I just don't want any ponies with huge seams on it, I mean, that's a given for any toy unless it's supposed to be a feature of it... I just want the quality of the new toys to be decent. That's my biggest "woe" with the new ponies :huh:
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: hathorcat on October 12, 2013, 12:26:01 AM
Minty those are fantastic comparison pictures! Thank you so much for sharing.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: lovesbabysquirmy on October 12, 2013, 01:08:08 AM
I still think that no matter what mold they are using, they have got to make those ears smaller!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Minty Starshine on October 12, 2013, 05:40:14 AM
Minty those are fantastic comparison pictures! Thank you so much for sharing.

No problem! :)

I still think that no matter what mold they are using, they have got to make those ears smaller!

I'm quite the opposite... I ADORE their ears. I love how big they are.  :hearts:
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: BowtieG1 on October 12, 2013, 05:41:42 AM
I wish they switched from that ugly shiny vinyl to the matte finish vinyl they used on the old heads, maybe the shiny stuff is cheaper?
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: rtattles on October 13, 2013, 03:18:18 AM
I've posted this image before but here's another Lyra comparison

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Older wedding version on the left, newer fav. collection ver on the right
The new head mold is rounder in the cheeks. I actually think it's cuter but don't like that the mold seam line is visible on many of the newer ones.

WoW! I think I prefer the old head too... the new rounder face makes the pony look a bit top heavy.
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: xoVanille on October 13, 2013, 03:35:41 AM
Hmm, I quite like the new head. It's pudgy and cute! Also in agree-ance about the ears...I love their big ears!
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Twilight Pink on October 13, 2013, 08:04:48 AM
I personally don't like the fat headed ponies  :(
I like there skinny heads, only a few ponies can pull off the fat head (Mrs. Cake, G4 Minty, and Sunset Shimmer)
Others... not so much (Fan Fave Lyra, Masquerade Rainbow Dash, and :muffin: pony)

As for the ears, I don't have a problem with them, it just makes em look like cats. :P
Title: Re: New G4 heads: Anybody know what is going on with these?
Post by: Prince Primbrose on October 13, 2013, 08:38:14 AM
Personally.....

I like both heads! They look cute either way.  :lol:
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