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Title: The mystery of this weird tail
Post by: Safflower on March 27, 2018, 07:34:16 PM: Hello! I have come across something odd. I recently bought a big lot of ponies, and the seller threw in two bags of accessories. This included a few tails. The one I'm talking about is this:
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Notice anything weird?

The top of the tail isn't there! Here is what a normal tail looks like. The clamp is in the middle of a hank of hair, so it comes out both sides.
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With this tail, there is a thin shiny plastic film covering it. It's only coming out one side.
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The clamp is also large and straight, unlike regular G1 clamps.

The length is also shorter than regular, but it could be cut, so... As for color, it doesn't match anyone I have, really. Here is a comparison pic.
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There is Nibbles, Baby Lofty, Boysenberry Pie, and a loose Applejack tail that has way too much glue on it. The closest match is Boysenberry Pie, but her hair is still too yellow and saturated. The mystery tail is a tad more orange and a tiny bit less saturated.

My first thought was fakie. But nearly all fakies have rooted tails though? Is it another horse brand that isn't a fakie? It is a normal G1 tail? Am I overreacting and this is normal? I'm probably making a big deal out of this, but how G1s are made really interests me! Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Post by: Mirnyj on March 28, 2018, 01:28:30 PM: I'm gonna vote for a non-MLP. There are fakies with plugged tails. Princess Rinse 'n' Spit for example. I was curious and checked two of mine that still have their original tails and thy had a different type of clamp. :) Your extra tail looks super curly tho, maybe that could be a hint on what kind of pony it came from?
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Post by: shabbychicdee on March 28, 2018, 02:50:48 PM: could be from a nirvana pony, some of them can be quite different
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Post by: Safflower on March 28, 2018, 03:12:59 PM: Thanks guys! It is curly, and a bit frizzy and matted. It doesn't feel cheep or oily and thin like fakie hair though. It has the amount of hair a normal G1 would have. The strands are the same thickness as G1 too. I'll have to look into nirvana tails too, but I doubt it :)

The lot I got it from was completely G1. No fakies. No other generations. And there was a lot of G1 things. There were also other loose tails, including a rainbow one for example. Nothing like this though :huh:

Thanks guys :biggrin:
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Post by: Taffeta on March 28, 2018, 04:47:32 PM: Is there any chance it might belong to a Hasbro product (thus same hair) but not a pony? Something with a tail of hair from the head instead perhaps?

I know my Jem dolls have the same hair fibres as MLP do. Obviously this is not Jem (lol) but expanding your search across other Hasbro products from a similar era might be an option?
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Post by: MoonStars on March 28, 2018, 05:33:35 PM: Following this.
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Post by: FiddlePhan on March 28, 2018, 07:34:05 PM: Could it come from a Fairy Tail bird? I haven't seen how their tails are clamped.
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Post by: Kazzellin on March 29, 2018, 01:20:35 PM: Could it be one of the extra hair locks for the Trim n' Grow Dream Beauties? I can't tell from the pictures on the wiki what the ends look like, but that would be my guess. Having the hair arranged like that would be less confusing for kids than the normal, double-ended version, anyway. :huh:
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on March 29, 2018, 02:33:19 PM: The Trim 'n Grow Dream Beauty tails had a sort of plastic tube "clamp", not metal. But that does look like real MLP / Hasbro hair to me . . . Maybe from some other Hasbro critter?
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Post by: pinkkittywinks on March 29, 2018, 03:15:24 PM: Quote from: FiddlePhan on March 28, 2018, 07:34:05 PM
Could it come from a Fairy Tail bird? I haven't seen how their tails are clamped.

It is clamped almost exactly like a pony tail :)

This is bugging me, I feel I should know who this tail belongs too.

Love pkw xxx
Title: Re: The mystery of this weird tail (pic heavy, but under spoilers)
Post by: Safflower on March 30, 2018, 06:41:39 PM: Thanks everyone! I have been doing some research now that I know where to start, and I have found some possible matches. It could be Little Sweets in the Little Pretty line or SunnySoft from the Lady Lovelylocks line. I'm leaning more towards Sunnysoft because Hasbro? What do you guys think? If only I could confirm what the tail clamps look like for them both... Thanks for the suggestions guys :D
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Post by: goddessofpeep on March 31, 2018, 12:30:25 AM: Could it be a Dance 'n Prance tail? The color looks pretty darn close to Tap Dancer:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Tap_Dancer

The Dance 'n Prance ponies do have a plastic sleeve around the base of the tail, and they are shorter than normal. I don't know what the internal mechanics for them look like, but I doubt they have the full tail hidden inside. It would make sense that the Dance 'n Prance tails are like half tails since they have to spin around. That tail even looks like it might have had a bit of curl to it at one time, just like Tap Dancer's.
Title: Re: The mystery of this weird tail (pic heavy, but under spoilers)
Post by: Skeen on March 31, 2018, 12:51:55 PM: Quote from: goddessofpeep on March 31, 2018, 12:30:25 AM
Could it be a Dance 'n Prance tail? The color looks pretty darn close to Tap Dancer:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Tap_Dancer

The Dance 'n Prance ponies do have a plastic sleeve around the base of the tail, and they are shorter than normal. I don't know what the internal mechanics for them look like, but I doubt they have the full tail hidden inside. It would make sense that the Dance 'n Prance tails are like half tails since they have to spin around. That tail even looks like it might have had a bit of curl to it at one time, just like Tap Dancer's.

The D&P ponies have a long plastic sleeve around their tail though, not just around the clamp part. ...Actually I don't think they even have clamps! What a mystery!
Title: Re: The mystery of this weird tail (pic heavy, but under spoilers)
Post by: Safflower on March 31, 2018, 12:59:35 PM: Quote from: Skeen on March 31, 2018, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: goddessofpeep on March 31, 2018, 12:30:25 AM
Could it be a Dance 'n Prance tail? The color looks pretty darn close to Tap Dancer:
http://mylittlewiki.org/wiki/Tap_Dancer

The Dance 'n Prance ponies do have a plastic sleeve around the base of the tail, and they are shorter than normal. I don't know what the internal mechanics for them look like, but I doubt they have the full tail hidden inside. It would make sense that the Dance 'n Prance tails are like half tails since they have to spin around. That tail even looks like it might have had a bit of curl to it at one time, just like Tap Dancer's.

The D&P ponies have a long plastic sleeve around their tail though, not just around the clamp part. ...Actually I don't think they even have clamps! What a mystery!
Yeah I considered it being a DnP, but there would have to be a sleeve after the clamp. Didn't know they don't have clamps!
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Post by: kestral_kitsune on March 31, 2018, 05:52:09 PM: I want to say it looks like a flutter pony's tail?

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or Goldilocks considering how curly it is?
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Post by: MoonStars on April 02, 2018, 09:29:43 AM: Quote from: Safflower on March 30, 2018, 06:41:39 PM
Thanks everyone! I have been doing some research now that I know where to start, and I have found some possible matches. It could be Little Sweets in the Little Pretty line or SunnySoft from the Lady Lovelylocks line. I'm leaning more towards Sunnysoft because Hasbro? What do you guys think? If only I could confirm what the tail clamps look like for them both... Thanks for the suggestions guys :D

Welp, there’s nothing to do but join every single potential toy forum on the internet and ask until someone somewhere recognizes it. 🤣
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Post by: Mlp Sunsparkle on April 02, 2018, 01:34:37 PM: Hmm, it looks very like the little pretty kitties yellow tail, do they have rooted or pony style tails? If they are Mlp style, I’d say it was from her. A fashion star filly also popped up on eBay today, with yellow curly hair, could it possibly be her tail?
Mlp Sunsparkle x

Edit: the little pretties and CurlyKittens seem to have rooted tails! Ack this is such a mystery! Looking at the FSF in better light (her name is Ariel) her hair looks more blonde than yellow to me. I’ll keep searching, I hope you can get an answer soon! ^.^
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Post by: banditpony on April 02, 2018, 01:50:19 PM: Quote from: kestral_kitsune on March 31, 2018, 05:52:09 PM
or Goldilocks considering how curly it is?

goldilocks also has orange in her hair...

What a good mystery... I hope you can figure it out.
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Post by: dragonlady on April 02, 2018, 03:01:19 PM: Quote from: Mlp Sunsparkle on April 02, 2018, 01:34:37 PM
A fashion star filly also popped up on eBay today, with yellow curly hair, could it possibly be her tail?
Mlp Sunsparkle x

Not Fashion Star Fillies; their tails are done differently.
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Post by: Galactica on April 02, 2018, 04:27:40 PM: What about the C.P.K. pony tails? You know those plastic cabage patch kid ponies? They had the same kind of hair as MLP right?
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Post by: dragonlady on April 02, 2018, 04:37:46 PM: Ooh, that may be it! I quickly looked on ebay and they seem to have the plug tails like MLP and there's one with yellow hair (not sure it's the same yellow though)
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Post by: Safflower on April 02, 2018, 06:25:17 PM: I doubt it would be Goldilocks or a flutter pony, she should have a regular MLP tail. Probably not CPK ponies either, they have yarn hair I think? And they are big! And it does seem that Curly Kittens and Little Pretties both have rooted tails, whoops! I was also thinking that it could have been a pixie tail from Lady Lovelylocks that was pulled out, but I don't think so. This is turning out to be quite the mystery! Dang!
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Post by: Mirnyj on April 02, 2018, 11:44:51 PM: Some of the cpk ponies have nylon hair, but the type is different and the tails are way longer that this.
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Post by: Safflower on April 08, 2018, 08:44:22 PM: Quote from: Mirnyj on April 02, 2018, 11:44:51 PM
Some of the cpk ponies have nylon hair, but the type is different and the tails are way longer that this.
Oh, didn't know they had nylon. But yeah, the tails would be too long.

Any more thoughts, people? Thanks for all the suggestions so far.
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Post by: NightGliderSA on April 10, 2018, 02:22:39 AM: Well it doesn't belong to a Flutter pony: they have tails made just the same as other my little ponies do. What about a pony made in another country? As the clamp is different? I don't suppose you are able to contact the seller and ask them? That might be the easiest option :)
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Post by: Safflower on April 10, 2018, 07:01:15 AM: Quote from: NightGliderSA on April 10, 2018, 02:22:39 AM
Well it doesn't belong to a Flutter pony: they have tails made just the same as other my little ponies do. What about a pony made in another country? As the clamp is different? I don't suppose you are able to contact the seller and ask them? That might be the easiest option :)
Yeah, it isn't a flutter pony. I was thinking about it being a nirvana tail... I doubt the seller would know though, she sold me a bit of her childhood collection but she said she thrifted things as well. There aren't any nirvana things in there. Does anyone know what nirvana tails look like?

Well, she only told me about one nirvana item she has: a South African Show Stable :shocked:
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Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 10, 2018, 07:19:16 AM: Quote from: Safflower on April 10, 2018, 07:01:15 AM

Does anyone know what nirvana tails look like?

It depends on which country the pony was made as they are all different. This doesn't looks like any nirvana tail that I have seen so far. That doesn't rule it out being nirvana, but it is certainly not a tail clamp I am familiar with.

Love pkw xxx
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 10, 2018, 07:23:20 AM: Well, "nirvana" isn't really anything but a made-up fan term for regional variants. Ponies that were made in places other than Hong Kong / China have a wide variety of differences, depending on the country.

If I had to guess, my guess would be that it's Tap Dancer's tail. It would make sense that they'd wrap the base of the tail up in this plastic wrap, in order to be able to insert it easily into the plastic tube at the base of a DnP's tail. It's also a shorter than usual tail, and the Dance 'n Prance's had short tails (so they wouldn't get tangled with their legs.)

Edit: You can see similar plastic wrap on Argentina Songster. My guess is that 'regular' versions had this same wrap, and it's just harder to see because they also have the plastic tube part.

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Title: Re: The mystery of this weird tail (pic heavy, but under spoilers)
Post by: Safflower on April 10, 2018, 07:26:49 AM: Yeah, I know there are lots of variants in nirvana tails because nirvana covers a broad range of places. I was asking if it looks like any nirvana tail anyone's seen :)

Hmm, it could be a DNP tail. I would just wonder how big their tail holes are? The clamp is pretty big.
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 10, 2018, 07:34:06 AM: IIRC they have a larger than normal hole (with the hard plastic thing around it, like the pink one on the picture above), as a side effect of their tail-twirl mechanism.

Has anyone ever opened one up for a custom? Now I'm curious about their inner workings.
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Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 10, 2018, 07:40:36 AM: Quote from: LadyMoondancer on April 10, 2018, 07:34:06 AM
IIRC they have a larger than normal hole (with the hard plastic thing around it, like the pink one on the picture above), as a side effect of their tail-twirl mechanism.

Has anyone ever opened one up for a custom? Now I'm curious about their inner workings.

http://www.mlppreservationproject.com/misc.html#DanceNPrance

:)

Love pkw xxx
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Post by: LadyMoondancer on April 10, 2018, 08:22:09 AM: Oh, interesting. From that page I found this example of someone rehairing one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eadnaCQfjmc
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Post by: Safflower on April 10, 2018, 04:10:41 PM: It looks like the plastic comes after. I can't see a clamp though... I don't think it's a DnP. Could it be a Drink n Wet? I looks but there are no yellow tails.
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Post by: pinkkittywinks on April 10, 2018, 06:38:42 PM: It’s not a drink and wet as their tails are standard/regular :)

Love pkw xxx
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Post by: NightGliderSA on April 12, 2018, 03:24:45 AM: So: let's make the muddy waters murkier still. I remembered that Tutti Frutti (European version) came with an odd looking tail and went to hunt up the image:

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I will have to open her up when I get home and take better photo's...
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Post by: Safflower on April 12, 2018, 06:58:50 AM: Oof. Can you tell if her hair comes out of just the bottom space or does it come out of two with the top folded over? It looks like it's wrapped with paper or tape? :blink: Thanks for the pic!
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Post by: NightGliderSA on April 13, 2018, 03:04:55 AM: Ok, so I have some serious Pony Regret here. Turns out I 'repaired' that tail with zip ties. :(

Big lesson learnt there... it was 2 years ago now and I know I did it because her tail has been trimmed and by using the zip ties it gave her a bit of additional length. There was no plastic inside the crimp, but for the life of me I cannot now recall whether that dratted crimp went over just half of the tail or the whole thing. I am highly annoyed with myself: sorry!
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Post by: Safflower on April 13, 2018, 07:03:34 AM: It's okay, don't apologize! It's great that we even have at least one picture :) And we all have pony regrets. I bet she looks great with a bit more length now though ;)

I can see some hair going over the clamp but under the brown paper or tape thing, so my guess is that this is a real tail that got wrapped with something. Thanks again :)
Title: Re: The mystery of this weird tail
Post by: Safflower on April 21, 2018, 10:07:50 AM: Any other thoughts? Still haven't identified it yet...
I might be getting more stuff from her soon, so that could possible help maybe? Who knows.
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Post by: KottonKandy on April 23, 2018, 09:23:37 PM: Have you tried asking the person you got it from? Maybe they'll know or can provide you a little more background on it
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Post by: Safflower on April 24, 2018, 07:05:54 AM: Oh yeah, I could try that :) I might be getting more pony stuff from her soon, so hopefully I can :)
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Post by: Galactica on April 24, 2018, 04:21:02 PM: Quote from: Safflower on April 21, 2018, 10:07:50 AM
Any other thoughts? Still haven't identified it yet...
I might be getting more stuff from her soon, so that could possible help maybe? Who knows.

Ultimately, does it matter?
Title: Re: The mystery of this weird tail
Post by: Safflower on April 24, 2018, 04:22:52 PM: Quote from: Galactica on April 24, 2018, 04:21:02 PM
Quote from: Safflower on April 21, 2018, 10:07:50 AM
Any other thoughts? Still haven't identified it yet...
I might be getting more stuff from her soon, so that could possible help maybe? Who knows.

Ultimately, does it matter?
Well, I would like to know :huh: If I don't find out it wouldn't be the end of the world, but still, I'm curious.