I could go on and on quoting these posts forever. This is why I left the brony community. These people are self-entitled brats. IT IS A SHOW FOR CHILDREN!!!! They had no problem calling her :muffin: Pony when it wasn't canon, and after FiM handled making her canon poorly suddenly that isn't good enough? I hope FiM/Hasbro never listen to the bronies again. I can't stand people like this. While I realize not all bronies are like this, most are. I'm not surprised they haven't gotten any better.
I have given up on keeping track to be honest....I am so used to being a member of a community which Hasbro pretty much acknowledged only from a friendly and polite distance that getting used to all the chopping & changing, the protectionism, the rivalries, the intensity towards HB is starting to hurt my head lol! I am a simply soul at heart!
I mean this nicely but "I am not bothered one way or the other" - my focus and interest is the toyline and always has been - the show is a secondary idea that I do enjoy but only as a "bolt on" to the line. I work in marketing and advertising so I applaud the concept of creating your own tv channel and your own shows simply to sell your product - but if they cancelled the show tomorrow but continued to make the toys I would not be that fussed.
All MLP belong to Hasbro they can do what they like - they can change characters, protect characters, refuse to do or simply do whatever they like with them. And as long as Hasbro are going to continue with the MLP I ll bow to their greater knowledge and "rights" and let them get on with it!
I have given up on keeping track to be honest....I am so used to being a member of a community which Hasbro pretty much acknowledged only from a friendly and polite distance that getting used to all the chopping & changing, the protectionism, the rivalries, the intensity towards HB is starting to hurt my head lol! I am a simply soul at heart!
I mean this nicely but "I am not bothered one way or the other" - my focus and interest is the toyline and always has been - the show is a secondary idea that I do enjoy but only as a "bolt on" to the line. I work in marketing and advertising so I applaud the concept of creating your own tv channel and your own shows simply to sell your product - but if they cancelled the show tomorrow but continued to make the toys I would not be that fussed.
All MLP belong to Hasbro they can do what they like - they can change characters, protect characters, refuse to do or simply do whatever they like with them. And as long as Hasbro are going to continue with the MLP I ll bow to their greater knowledge and "rights" and let them get on with it!
personally i think they're just being a bunch of angry toddlers.
i don't see anything wrong with the episodes. in fact i think it's nice that they are acknowledging that life isn't all sunshine and fun all the time thank you very much.
either way.
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TBH though, the reactions on eqd sort of make me hope she is taken out just to spite them. I hate how so many people still don't get that this is a show for children, not adults and Hasbro/studio B don't owe them anything!
I have given up on keeping track to be honest....I am so used to being a member of a community which Hasbro pretty much acknowledged only from a friendly and polite distance that getting used to all the chopping & changing, the protectionism, the rivalries, the intensity towards HB is starting to hurt my head lol! I am a simply soul at heart!
I mean this nicely but "I am not bothered one way or the other" - my focus and interest is the toyline and always has been - the show is a secondary idea that I do enjoy but only as a "bolt on" to the line. I work in marketing and advertising so I applaud the concept of creating your own tv channel and your own shows simply to sell your product - but if they cancelled the show tomorrow but continued to make the toys I would not be that fussed.
All MLP belong to Hasbro they can do what they like - they can change characters, protect characters, refuse to do or simply do whatever they like with them. And as long as Hasbro are going to continue with the MLP I ll bow to their greater knowledge and "rights" and let them get on with it!
personally i think they're just being a bunch of angry toddlers.
i don't see anything wrong with the episodes. in fact i think it's nice that they are acknowledging that life isn't all sunshine and fun all the time thank you very much.
either way.
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Completely agreed.
I would definitely NOT want to show my kids a show that depicted life as being 100% perfect and happy and sunshine and roses all the time. It's terribly unrealistic and I believe that that kind of "wrap mah kid in cotton wool" outlook is extremely damaging precisely because it gives the child an unrealistic outlook on life, and most importantly: constant sunshine & roses DO NOT prepare them for the big, and sometimes scary world around them.
I would never want to police what cartoons my children watch, (it would also drive me mad to try to do so because it would be unrealistic for me to expect that I can) but rather build an atmosphere of education and rewarded curiosity (rather than punishment for watching "bad things", or many important but missed lessons through deprivation) by encouraging my children to speak to their parents about how THEY feel about what they watch - rather than assume I have the ability or the right to think for them.
Personally I think she was adorable in the Last Roundup as a character, and shows that Ponyville isn't full of all these perfect ponies. You can be different and still be loved (at least thats how I took it).
I'm guessing The Last Roundup is the name of the episode with :muffin: Pony in it? It makes more sense now. I was super confused.
Bronies name character :muffin: Pony and lover her - Hasbro is good to the fans and make her name "official" - Bronies are outraged and hate :muffin: Pony
Stupidest thing ever.
personally i think they're just being a bunch of angry toddlers.
i don't see anything wrong with the episodes. in fact i think it's nice that they are acknowledging that life isn't all sunshine and fun all the time thank you very much.
either way.
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Completely agreed.
I would definitely NOT want to show my kids a show that depicted life as being 100% perfect and happy and sunshine and roses all the time. It's terribly unrealistic and I believe that that kind of "wrap mah kid in cotton wool" outlook is extremely damaging precisely because it gives the child an unrealistic outlook on life, and most importantly: constant sunshine & roses DO NOT prepare them for the big, and sometimes scary world around them.
I would never want to police what cartoons my children watch, (it would also drive me mad to try to do so because it would be unrealistic for me to expect that I can) but rather build an atmosphere of education and rewarded curiosity (rather than punishment for watching "bad things", or many important but missed lessons through deprivation) by encouraging my children to speak to their parents about how THEY feel about what they watch - rather than assume I have the ability or the right to think for them.
I did notice trolls capitalizing on this and saying :muffin: Pony is a anti metal health issue nameI don't know how people on other forums reacted, but a lot of people here have said that too, myself included, and we're not trolls. Her name IS derived from and insult towards people with disabilities, and even if that wasn't intentionally meant as in insult in naming her that, that doesn't make the history of the term ":muffin: Pony" go away. So people have a right to be offended by it and by others' insistence that they need to get over it. Frankly, I think Hasbro could/should have avoided this all by not using a fan-name officially to begin with like every other fan-named character, but I suspect it was done by the studio without the larger company realizing it.
...... thwy equated it to calling someone an rtard.. i thibk thats where the faracas came from....... sadly in this instance i think the trolls won ;_;
Actually, it may not have anything to do with :muffin: Pony's behavior or the context of the word "derp." For all we know, it could be Hasbro trying to cover its flank from the possibility of fans suing them for using a name they came up with. We don't exactly know everything going on right now.
Actually, it may not have anything to do with :muffin: Pony's behavior or the context of the word "derp." For all we know, it could be Hasbro trying to cover its flank from the possibility of fans suing them for using a name they came up with. We don't exactly know everything going on right now.
Oh Lordy... I kinda saw this coming. Here are my thoughts on the matter:
I personally feel like the show and the fandom should be separate. Hasbro made a mistake in introducing :muffin: Pony to the show. The show is intended for and marketed to young children, not people in the "brony" age range. And I think it should stay that way. If Hasbro keeps this up, the show is going to be completely run by bronies. Hasbro is just losing sight of their target audience if you ask me.
I have heard :muffin: Pony's eyes started as an animation error , and it kinda went from thereYeah, I think the issue is where it went from there...
Actually, it may not have anything to do with :muffin: Pony's behavior or the context of the word "derp." For all we know, it could be Hasbro trying to cover its flank from the possibility of fans suing them for using a name they came up with. We don't exactly know everything going on right now.Very true...I'd be surprised if fans actually have any rights to the name, but still, if it's at all questionable, this wouldn't surprise me.
Oh Lordy... I kinda saw this coming. Here are my thoughts on the matter:
I personally feel like the show and the fandom should be separate. Hasbro made a mistake in introducing :muffin: Pony to the show. The show is intended for and marketed to young children, not people in the "brony" age range. And I think it should stay that way. If Hasbro keeps this up, the show is going to be completely run by bronies. Hasbro is just losing sight of their target audience if you ask me.
The klutzy, silly, dim character is a staple character for a kids cartoon. Besides Disney's Goofy, there is Patrick from Spongebob and Ed from Ed, Edd, and Eddy. The only thing they got from the "brony" fanbase is the name.
It's not that :muffin: Pony should change, but given some positive traits too. Being clumsy may be endearing, but it's not a strength. Also, seeing how she was treated by RD, what should change is how she's treated.
The origin of the word "derp" really needs to be clarified. -
The first known instance of the word “derp” comes from the 1998 film Baseketball by South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone. During a scene where they are caught smelling underwear taken from a woman’s private drawer, Matt runs out of the room and says “Derp.”
And thus, :muffin: Pony's name is not derived from any insult towards people with disabilities. "Derp" is a reply to a stupid comment or action, and so is comparable to "duh" - a word which populates quite a lot of cartoons and is pretty commonly accepted.
The origin of the word "derp" really needs to be clarified. -
The first known instance of the word “derp” comes from the 1998 film Baseketball by South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone. During a scene where they are caught smelling underwear taken from a woman’s private drawer, Matt runs out of the room and says “Derp.”
And thus, :muffin: Pony's name is not derived from any insult towards people with disabilities. "Derp" is a reply to a stupid comment or action, and so is comparable to "duh" - a word which populates quite a lot of cartoons and is pretty commonly accepted.
Everyone needs to put their big girl/boy undies on here.. I am sorry but i do NOT find a thing about :muffin: Pony or her name offensive. its bratty fans and over protective parents that are going to ruin the show. :( i hate all this PC nonsense. if your offended , then go be offended somewhere else because myself and many others enjoy the show. if parents are so worried about the offensiveness of the cartoon then how about you turn the tv off? it only takes the click of a button and a little supervision ;)
It's GREAT the way it is and i love that the animators listen to the fans, not just the "target demographic" because as an animation student and a fan of animation, i hate the stereotype of cartoons having to be for kids, and yes this one was intended to be but something happened and a fanbase was created.. deal with it people. lol they arent going anywhere everyone needs to stop fighting over a cartoon, i mean really?
for a show like this to gather such a cult following of adults well... thats a beautiful thing and doesnt happen often, let alone have shoutouts to the fans all the time.
Oh Lordy... I kinda saw this coming. Here are my thoughts on the matter:I agree with this 100%.
I personally feel like the show and the fandom should be separate. Hasbro made a mistake in introducing :muffin: Pony to the show. The show is intended for and marketed to young children, not people in the "brony" age range. And I think it should stay that way. If Hasbro keeps this up, the show is going to be completely run by bronies. Hasbro is just losing sight of their target audience if you ask me.
As far as how :muffin: Pony was treated, the big reason for that is that she was with Dash. Rainbow Dash isn't The Element of Patience. If somebody is clumsy, she's going to get cranky with them. But I don't see a whole lot of blaming Dash for her behavoir.
no im sorry. You're wrong... as someone who knows the origin of the memebecause i was aroundthe site it came from you are wrong... you arent a troll but you sure have been duped by them.I did notice trolls capitalizing on this and saying :muffin: Pony is a anti metal health issue nameI don't know how people on other forums reacted, but a lot of people here have said that too, myself included, and we're not trolls. Her name IS derived from and insult towards people with disabilities, and even if that wasn't intentionally meant as in insult in naming her that, that doesn't make the history of the term ":muffin: Pony" go away. So people have a right to be offended by it and by others' insistence that they need to get over it. Frankly, I think Hasbro could/should have avoided this all by not using a fan-name officially to begin with like every other fan-named character, but I suspect it was done by the studio without the larger company realizing it.
...... thwy equated it to calling someone an rtard.. i thibk thats where the faracas came from....... sadly in this instance i think the trolls won ;_;
at first i was thinking "she reminds me of steve urckle". (not sure how to spell it)
Because someone CHOSE to use Rainbow Dash in that scene and CHOSE to make her that abrasive and CHOSE to give her those lines. These are not real, flesh-and-blood people who are actually fixing town hall or fighting space bears, they are artificial constructs that Studio B uses as they will for whatever stories they choose to tell. They made pretty much the worst possible choice in that scene. Why not use mild-mannered, kindly Fluttershy to interact with :muffin: Pony? (Or pretty much any other character besides Dash.)
As I said, major flubs on Studio B's part.
8. It's a cartoon show...if you want your kids to learn morality, patience, acceptance then I'm sorry that is the job of the parents and not anyone else (yes I have kids one toddler and one teenager) We cannot hold the show accountable for these things.I'm sorry, but I cannot agree to this fully. While I do agree that parents should teach their kids the values, you must also understand that kids tend to emulate what they see on TV if left unchecked, and apparently a lot of them don't understand the "don't try this at home" part. How many of you actually sit and watch a show with your children and tell them what the character is doing is wrong?
As far as how :muffin: Pony was treated, the big reason for that is that she was with Dash. Rainbow Dash isn't The Element of Patience. If somebody is clumsy, she's going to get cranky with them. But I don't see a whole lot of blaming Dash for her behavoir.
The orgin of the word doesn't matter, it's how people have used it since. For example, 'gay' used to mean 'happy' or 'joyful'. It doesn't anymore.
Everyone needs to put their big girl/boy undies on here.. I am sorry but i do NOT find a thing about :muffin: Pony or her name offensive. its bratty fans and over protective parents that are going to ruin the show. :( i hate all this PC nonsense. if your offended , then go be offended somewhere else because myself and many others enjoy the show. if parents are so worried about the offensiveness of the cartoon then how about you turn the tv off? it only takes the click of a button and a little supervision ;)This, really.
It's GREAT the way it is and i love that the animators listen to the fans, not just the "target demographic" because as an animation student and a fan of animation, i hate the stereotype of cartoons having to be for kids, and yes this one was intended to be but something happened and a fanbase was created.. deal with it people. lol they arent going anywhere everyone needs to stop fighting over a cartoon, i mean really?
for a show like this to gather such a cult following of adults well... thats a beautiful thing and doesnt happen often, let alone have shoutouts to the fans all the time.
Tarring all bronies with the same brush and feeling superior are things people should watch out for. When you're into CHILDREN'S CARTOONS and collecting piles of of CHILDREN'S TOYS, there isn't a lot of room to be snotty. People outside the fandom think YOU are ridiculous as well.
I did notice trolls capitalizing on this and saying :muffin: Pony is a anti metal health issue nameI don't know how people on other forums reacted, but a lot of people here have said that too, myself included, and we're not trolls. Her name IS derived from and insult towards people with disabilities, and even if that wasn't intentionally meant as in insult in naming her that, that doesn't make the history of the term ":muffin: Pony" go away. So people have a right to be offended by it and by others' insistence that they need to get over it. Frankly, I think Hasbro could/should have avoided this all by not using a fan-name officially to begin with like every other fan-named character, but I suspect it was done by the studio without the larger company realizing it.
...... thwy equated it to calling someone an rtard.. i thibk thats where the faracas came from....... sadly in this instance i think the trolls won ;_;
no im sorry. You're wrong... as someone who knows the origin of the memebecause i was aroundthe site it came from you are wrong... you arent a troll but you sure have been duped by them.