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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: enabler on December 15, 2014, 12:19:50 PM
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My wife has a G3 waterglobe that at some point in being in storage/moving decided it wanted to leak all of the water out of it. Now, from looking at it, I can tell that the globe itself isn't cracked. My theory is that whatever seal it had around the base of the globe where it meets the base of the item, has deteriorated or come lose. I don't know where to begin on taking it apart however.
Anyone have any experience with this?
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I may be able to help, I make snow globes in my spare time. do you have a pic?
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It could just be general time that is causing your problems; water will very slowly evaporate out of snow globes over time so it could simply need a top up with distilled water and glycerine rather than be broken. As Karma mentions, a picture will help :)
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enabler has reached his post limit for today so I will post the pics
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The Globe leaked out all at one time (not slowly). I notice that the base in the globe (hill where the pony is sitting) seems to be shifted and no longer level. That may be where it leaked out?
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Okay.... so you're going to have to go from the bottom up. Unscrew the music pin and the two screws, then take the plastic off and please send another picture.
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The rubber section is def not level
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Yeah, it looks like a section of the rubber seal broke and that's where it leaked. You are probably going to have to tear the seal out entirely (think of it sort of like installing a toilet). to fix it you will need distilled water, glycerin (you'll find it in the craft section by the cake decorating supplies) and a water sealing glue. I use E6000.
look at the inside stand, see if it needs to be glued down at all. if it does, it needs to be dry and the glue needs to cure for 24 hours.
The more glycerin you add, the slower the glitter will fall. I usually do about a teaspoon. So, fill it with your water mix. The easiest way is to put the globe upside down, on the mouth of a cup in a bowl to catch any extra. put the stopper back in, sop up what water you can, and seal it up again. Let it cure overnight in this position, then flip to check. if it holds, you're all good, just put it back together. if not, add more glue until it stops. In general, just add lots of you glue.
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Thank you so much Karma!!! I will get enabler to work on it when he is off work. I appreciate all your help! ^.^
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Waits for more pics. I love snow globes.
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No problem! I'm just glad it was the easy fix. The other way they break requires resin and I don't think they ever look the same. This way they're just like new~
Rybett- I should make you a snow globe if we trade again!
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Gonna drop a comment here for updates, because we're in a similar predicament and I'd love to see how you guys are doing! My mother bought some snowglobes at an auction as a present for my cousin and uncle, but the glue holding the figures inside had come loose, making the rest of the water really murky and gunky.
We've been doing some research on how to fix them... some snowglobes are put together with plugs, like pony heads, but not all of them apparently. Also, don't use pure water inside, but add some glycerin too. Apparently, you can find the stuff at some craft stores, but we've been unsuccessful. Glycerin acts as an antifreeze and will prevent the water inside from freezing, and it may or may not also protect it from algae. To minimize that problem, keep it out of direct sunlight.
If you want to save the snow inside, a trick I've read is to dump the water slowly, saving as much of the snow/glitter as you can. Then, when you've got just a little puddle on the inside, use a paper towel as a filter to collect the rest of the glitter. Let it dry, and then you can just dump it inside when it's dry and ready.
Good luck! We haven't attempted any of this yet, but this is all still some really nice "theory" that we've found during our research of trying to find a way to repair ours.
EDIT: I guess I got a little ahead of myself and somehow missed Karma's advice. :P Which is very good advice, so thank you as well, Karma!
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From the looks of it, the rubber seal/plug was never sealed in with any kind of glue, which may have been part of the problem to begin with.
From what I've seen messing around with it, it seems that the pony inside is attached to the plug directly but it was kept from leaking until a few months ago by just having enough pressure on the plug around the opening on the base. I only say this because I can move the plug and almost push it back in place/pull it out by hand. It is only slightly stubborn due to its size and being in a relatively small area for my hands. I shall be bringing some tools home tomorrow to work on it. More pics will follow.
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So Im guessing tomorrow I will be looking for glycerin and getting distilled water (maybe some fine glitter too just in case) :D
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Actually, fine glitter tends to float. so do average or heavy glitter. ^.^
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Actually, fine glitter tends to float. so do average or heavy glitter. ^.^
GAH You are a lifesaver Karma! I was thinking fine glitter too HAHA. I would have goofed for sure. :D :)
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Karma- If I ever have any questions about Snowglobes, I now know who to go to. :D
This thread has taught me a lot. Good luck fixing the snow globe!
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Fantastic advice :) So helpful! Thanks for all the tips Karma :)
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Great advice Karma! :)
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This was a great thread to read! I am not planning work on a snowglobe anytime soon, but I still appreciate the info!
Thanks karma!
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Wicked cool info!
Hugs
Robin
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You're welcome all. If you ever need a snowglobe, they're one of my favorite things to make.
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Ooh I love that G3 snowglobe. :lovey:
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Karma, where do you find the globe portions for your snow globes? I've been wondering that since I heard of people making snowglobes/waterglobes.
Secondly, an update. Searched for glycerin yesterday to no avail. Sending the wife to look later today while I am at work. Found distilled water easy enough but wasn't going to wait in line at WalMart for 35 minutes for a 1 dollar purchase lol.
Michael's, Hobby Lobby, Target, and WalMart.. none had liquid glycerin. Only Hobby Lobby had any glycerin and it was solid. Hopefully wife can find some at The Vitamin Shoppe, a nature food store, or local independent pharmacy.
Updates to follow later. :)
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So, Michaels used to have their line of empty snowglobes, but they stopped selling them. >_< I bought them all out the year before though. After I'm done with them, I'll switch to this line: http://www.snowdomes.com/ (http://www.snowdomes.com/)
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Ooohhhhhhhhh.... purdy. :3 I will keep them in mind!
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I'm picking up this exact snowglobe today from a lady on freecycle! I'm so excited for the timing of this post!
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I want to say that I used something other than glycerin in the one I made but don't recall what it was. And plain ole glitter. I've made "time out" bottles by melting clear glue and glitter glue in hot water. Think that could work here?
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This is wonderful! I have a childhood Christmas snow globe that is all but dry... i still put it out but it looks terrible. Now I have a way to bring it back to life! I'm so excited!
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On the subject of snowglobes, is there anything special that needs to be done to the figurine inside to protect it? Just thought of a gift for my mother involving a porcelain Precious Moments figurine in a custom snowglobe.
Any thoughts or advice on that?
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You can use baby oil, but it's not as neat, as it separates a bit more. I love the glitter glue stuff! It works great for time out bottles, sadly not as well for snow globes. I tried XD. You don't have to see anything but glitter in the time out bottles, but in snow globes it mostly makes a cloudy mess. I wish it worked!
So, if you want to put something in a snow globe, first make sure it'll fit when the stopper is in. then make sure there's no metal, nothing that can rust. then put a clear coat on it. or five. I usually do five. However, also pay careful attention to if there's a hole in the bottom or any way air can get caught. I once tried to make an igloo snow globe, but when I put the stopper in the water, air got trapped in the igloo and little by little forced the igloo off of the stopper. It's now a fun game of "can you land the igloo right side up?"
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This thread is great! I made snow globes with my kids and we did so many things wrong!!! Darn you Pinterest!!!
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@Karma would I just need to drain and refill with fresh distilled water? My 5yo is going to love it--snowglobe AND ponies!
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Yup! Maybe give it a nice wash, too.
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A lot of Precious Moments figurines have a small hole in the bottom, but I could easily plug that with some waterproof caulking/epoxy/glue/etc.
But this information has been great!
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Just remember to fill it with the apoxie. If you just cover it, the air pocket inside will ruin it.
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OOO!! How about wet the inside of the figure and add Gorilla Glue? That could expand and fill the space. Also awesome for after rehairing pony heads.
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So long as what's inside the figure doesn't make the figure float, it's all good.
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Now I also need to remember what I used to glue Cadence and Shiny to the bottom of the globe. I know it was not Gorilla 'cause that didn't hold...
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Just wanted to say this was an awesome thread. I learned a lot and was really cool to see pony snow globes!
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So, need to find something to plug the inside with that won't float, and also something to attach the figurine to the base with. Got it. :)
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Well enabler started "fixing" the snow globe. I will be cleaning glitter up FOREVER....also I will probably be picking glitter out of his beard for a while.
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Shiny!!
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....so much glitter.... I got squirted in the face with glitter water earlier... found out the hard way that we had it too full. Also, found out after filling it with water, letting the excess water dry, and putting glue on, that I had the plug in the wrong position, and was not pushed in far enough so it pushed itself out and unsealed itself from the glue.
I had no idea, going in, how it should look installed, because it was never installed correctly at a point where we had opened it up and able to see it. So, for the others that might have this particular globe/issue, there is a slight lip on the rubber plug and a matching indention on the base of the globe where the lip needs to be able to seat. Our original problem (not that we knew it at the time) was that it would either not push in far enough to seat, or it would push past the lip area. Had no air bubble in it at all originally. After redoing it, discovered that in order for it to seat properly it needed to have enough of an air bubble to allow the plug to have room inside the globe as well as be able to relieve some pressure.
So, it is currently sitting upside down drying out from the water that spilled (lovely glitter water -_- ) and once it dries I will be gluing it back down again hopefully with better luck the second time. On a side note, E6000 takes forever to cure.
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Okay, so here come the pictures!!
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So, this is what the base/plug looks like outside of the waterglobe, for those wondering.
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The supplies.
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Disassembled and ready to put glycerin and distilled water back in.
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This is only being shown because this is how ours looked, for the most part, when I took it all apart. This is NOT how it is supposed to go (found out the hard way... also, see first image for the lip on the base... it matches up with the inside of the globe... hopefully everyone else's is a better fit than ours)
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Thought it was ready to dry and be glued down at this point (after getting squirted in the face with glitter water)... I was wrong. It should have been pushed down inside more.
Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture of the inside after I got the base/plug seated properly. Dummy.
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After it was all said and done, we have a slight air bubble in it, but it couldn't be helped. Every time I tried putting the plug in with enough water to not have an air bubble, I would get squirted with glitter water or the plug would go through the base of the globe and I'd have to pry it back outside of the neck of the globe and start over... too much pressure inside I think. Plus, the glitter didn't shake around very much when there was no bubble.
At any rate, it is now one of a kind since it has some new star shaped glitter to fill in for a little bit of the flower shaped glitter we lost. :happy:
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Yay! it looks great :biggrin:
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It looks perfect! You guys did a really great job :D
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Hey @Karma, how do I change the water once I get to this point? visitors can't see pics , please register or login
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So, the red seal needs to be pulled up first, then, once it's loose, find something like a screwdriver to pull the plug to a position you can pull it out. You can try to strain the water to preserve your glitter, but after that, it's the same steps ^.^
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sweet! this wasn't as difficult as I was afraid it would be; just need to put it back together! Thanks for the advice :biggrin:
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That looks fantastic enabler :) Great job!
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Hey @Karma, how do I change the water once I get to this point? visitors can't see pics , please register or login
CoonhoundBetty your globe had a seal! Ours didn't have any kind of sealer. I think thats why ours leaked!
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Mine was super cloudy, that's why I wanted to figure it out. And I totally sprayed myself with water when trying to get it back in LOL
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HAHA Im glad we weren't the only ones who got sprayed! :)
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LoL and I was telling myself to go slow so as not to spray myself like enabler :p
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Also guys be careful with those snow globes if you have pets around and they are leaking a lot of them contain actual antifreeze and they have killed peoples pets.
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LoL and I was telling myself to go slow so as not to spray myself like enabler :p
It's all fun and games until you get glitter in your eye...
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LoL and I was telling myself to go slow so as not to spray myself like enabler :p
It's all fun and games until you get glitter in your eye...
I didn't get enough water put in, but that smile tells me she doesn't care!
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Awwwww....perfect!
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YAY it looks so good!
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It looks great!! Ours is missing a little bit of water too! :)