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Pony Talk => Pony Corral => Topic started by: bluemoondreams on April 07, 2012, 09:23:56 AM
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Okay being English it took me an age to work out what tubs of jelly are. I think there Jam...jelly here is a desert mostly poured into molds then eaten...Jame is made of fruit and then mostly put on toast. My other half corpsed that it took me so long to work out that the tubs of jelly meant jam men.
Also am I the only one who just wishes these little fillies would get it over with, i nkow their young and all but to be honnest their eppisodes are getting a little repetative for me.
Any one got any theories on how their gonig to get their cutie marks?
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I need to get caught up on these!
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I've known for some years but I remember wondering why Americans would put jelly on a sandwich with peanut butter (although jam and peanut butter doesn't sound much better - sorry! xD)
Jelly in America is jello.
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Peanut butter and grape jelly (jam, or also called preserves) sandwiches are a staple for American kids, particularly for school lunches, unless obviously they're allergic. :) You're right, what you would call jelly we'd call jello after the brand name product. I can't imagine eating peanut butter with jello either!
I love talking about differences in what you call food and consider edible!
As for the CMC, I have to admit I really like them. I think they're adorable. :) I think Sweetie Belle's mark will be like G3 Lulabelle's, the pretty bells since she's a singer and bells "sing" - and it matches her name. Scootaloo in G3 has a butterfly cutie mark, which I guess could work for G4 Scootaloo if it's a really fast butterfly...otherwise I'd think hers would be her scooter, since she's good at that. And I guess Apple Bloom's mark could be apple flowers, but I really like the idea of her mark being a zap apple, since she seemed good at making zap apple jam.
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lol food differances between two countries with the same laguage is funny!
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Here in the US, Jelly is basically your jam. Jam here is the same as Jelly, just with seeds or parts of the fruit inside it.
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That would be confusing. In North America, jelly is a preserve made of fruit juice and has a gelatinous form. Jam is made from crushed fruits, and is also a preserve, so they are pretty similar.
Now I am craving marmalade, lol!
Yep, I love the CMC and wish at least one of them would get a cutie mark. They are already great at stuff!
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peanut butter and jell-o.... blurg, what a concept. XD
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Ha ha, peanut butter and Jello sandwich . . . PASS! XD
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I grew up in england and I ate peanut butter and jam sandwiches all the time! Also peanut butter and lemon curd, that's still a favorite!
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Oooooh....peanut butter, raspberry jam [with the pips of course] and banana sandwiches.....nom nom nom...I know what I am having as a snack later!
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BrightIdea has it on the money! In the States (and I'm assuming Canada!), "jelly" is the stuff made out of fruit juice and is smooth and gelatinous while "jam" is made out of actual fruits so it'll be chunkier in texture with seeds and fruit bits in it.
I actually prefer peanut butter sandwiches without the jelly! And I agree about banana and peanut butter sandwiches... so good...!
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I introduced my husband (who is from england) to PB&J. he looooves it, tho he found it a little odd at first :)
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i think it's just for us when you say jelly we think of the thing you pour into molds and eat at parties. Jam is made from fruit and so on, I just find it intresting how two words can mean the same thing and yet diffrent things. I have to admit though I want a wall apaper of the pony in the jam, it looked funny.
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lol food differances between two countries with the same laguage is funny!
:lol: I love American English and Britsh English word mix ups. It is funny that two countries with the same main lauguage have diffrent meanings to there words. Confusing but funny.
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Well~ The root of jelly , I am sure is coming from gelatin or gel. ;3 so it's not that far of a stretch. so really ~ maybe fruit preserve is the correct term :3 cuz jelly isn't jam in my head. ^^; I personally am not a fan of jelly -- its too smooth , I prefer jam (especially homemade, yum) ~
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Okay. I thought I understood what I was putting on toast before I read this thread. From now on I'm just going to motion with my hand like I'm putting something on toast, and say 'The, y'know, the stuff that you put on toast!'
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I couldn't agree more. I have to say after the first 2 CMC episodes it's starting to get a little boring and I just want them to get their darn cutie marks already. We already know what each of them are good at (even if they themselves are completely oblivious) so I feel like we all have a general idea of what they're each going to get.
I wish they would just get them already and move on but I feel like they're going to keep the search on as an alternative between regular pony episodes.
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My boyfriend is British, and we never ran into this confusion at all! XD I guess the subject never came up... He doesn't like peanut butter at all.
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Okay. I thought I understood what I was putting on toast before I read this thread. From now on I'm just going to motion with my hand like I'm putting something on toast, and say 'The, y'know, the stuff that you put on toast!'
Marmite? :satisfied:
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Yup, there's jelly, jam, marmalade and then curd - it gets kind of confusing in that aisle at the grocery store. :silly: I actually don't like pb&j together, though I'm fine with them alone. :)
I grew up in england and I ate peanut butter and jam sandwiches all the time! Also peanut butter and lemon curd, that's still a favorite!
Hmm; I love lemon curd - I should try that!
And, back on-topic - I'm also getting tired of the CMC not having their cutie marks. I thought at least one of them might have hers by now. And I think that would make for an interesting (and somewhat realistic) story. :)
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America time! *waves flag* Here are the basics of the confusing substances in question.
JAM- fruit, mashed pureed or chopped, stewed in sugar to make a spread for toast, sandwiches, etc
JELLY- fruit juice made into a spread similar to jam, but with the fruit bits removed. Softer than Jello (see below) and still made with real fruit juice.
PRESERVES- a sort of umbrella term covering almost all jams, jellies, etc
JELLO- what you know as jelly, a firm but gelatinous, see-through glob of neon wiggle-stuff. Basically just gelatin and sugar with "natural and artificial flavoring".
The more you know ;)
As for the CMC, I do hope they get their cutie marks, in separate episodes, but I don't mind if they do it all in one episode it would just be sad to not give each of them a good amount of time for finally getting it. And I do hope we'll get it soon so that we can have episodes involving them and their special talents and such. I'd love to see some episodes of Sweetie Belle participating in maybe a singing contest, Scootaloo working to win an upcoming class race, Apple Bloom doing.... whatever Apple Bloom does. Fixing the clubhouse was supposed to be a hint, but they haven't really revisited it like they have with the other two. I bet she'll be the last one to get her cutie mark, I think she's the one who stresses about it the most too! Poor Apple Bloom. Maybe she'll get it while fixing up something on the farm... And then she could get her apple-themed cutie mark haha.
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I don't like the CMC a whole lot, but I think it'd be cool if they got their cutie marks c:
I think Applebloom's would be maybe a hammer and some nails, because she's good at fixing things, or maybe a zap apple since she's good at making zap apple jam ^^
Sweetie Belle would have music notes or a microphone, no doubt... x3
As for Scootaloo, I think she'd have either a scooter or something more ambitious, like a shooting star or something. I don't think she'd do real well with the butterfly cutie mark G3 Scootaloo has xD
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Sadley I've always figured the CMC were just a excuse for hasbro to make little baby ponies, which if you think about it must be even cheper to make then the adult sized ones, with no symbole. It gives them a story to make evey baby pony without a smybole or cutie mark because "they havn't found there's yet'' I'm sorry but I just find any pony without a symbole a sad pony and I'm deeply dissapointed the baby ponies no longer have symboles. But if the CMC find there cutie marks hasbro will have to get creative and start making some symboles or er uh cutie marks on those babies. But I'm gonna try to end this on a positive note I hope they get them soon.
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After reading this thread, I want some nice buttered toast with strawberry jelly... yum XD
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I want jelly now. Jam jelly, not Bill Cosby jelly.
I also want the CMC's to get their dang symbols. I've only seen an episode here and there and I'm already sick of the 'what goofy things can we do to get our cutie marks' storyline. These are baby ponies.. they could be getting into all sorts of shenanigans.. instead they're whining about cutie marks.
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lol I love how the same words can mean different things in American English and British English. What we call pants, you call trousers, what you call pants, we call underwear...
The one that really confused me at first was the British meaning of the slang word "pissed." To us, "pissed off" means very angry, but to the British, it means to be drunk/smashed. Also, "mad" to Americans usually means "angry" while "mad" to Britons means "crazy"... hehe. It's just so much fun.
Aaaanyway, to get back on point, I hope one day, we get an episode about the CMCs getting their marks. They are cute and all, but generally, the episodes focusing on them are my least favorites.
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Now that this has been brought up, I recall when I first read the Harry Potter books, I was confused why they mentioned Jell-O at the Hogwarts feast . . . the ONLY brand name Muggle food mentioned in the wizarding world!
Then I found a copy of the British version of the first Harry Potter book and found in THAT version it was listed as jelly. Some other words where different between the American / British versions too . . . sweater vs jumper, sneakers vs trainers.
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I thought the UK called a pb&j nutty gum and fruit spleggings?
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see now this is why I think it's uintresting to get Jell-o in teh amaerican version of Harry potter because you might get confused by Jelly I think thats funny.
It's always intresting how you can get simular words for the same thing and the whole thing of what you call one thing we call another. Always reminds me of being stopped in london and being asked by an americal the way to Licesershire square...I loled so hard... because you prenouse it in full and we don't it comes out lester square.
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The one that really confused me at first was the British meaning of the slang word "pissed." To us, "pissed off" means very angry, but to the British, it means to be drunk/smashed. Also, "mad" to Americans usually means "angry" while "mad" to Britons means "crazy"... hehe. It's just so much fun.
"Pissed off" still means angry here but the word "pissed" on it's own would usually mean drunk/smashed but can mean angry.
The word "mad" can mean angry or crazy depending on the context.
I thought the UK called a pb&j nutty gum and fruit spleggings?
What!? I've never heard of "nutty-gum and fruit spleggings" lmao!
:rofl:
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I've known for some years but I remember wondering why Americans would put jelly on a sandwich with peanut butter (although jam and peanut butter doesn't sound much better - sorry! xD)
Jelly in America is jello.
This is also what I thought when I was a kid! I was wondering why the characters on tv's parent would even let them have jelly for lunch! X) Haha, took me a while to realise they ment jam!
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So in the UK you call both the one with the fruit in it and the one without the fruit in it jam? It must get confusing if you send someone to the store. You could mean the one without any fruit in it and get the one with it.
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So in the UK you call both the one with the fruit in it and the one without the fruit in it jam? It must get confusing if you send someone to the store. You could mean the one without any fruit in it and get the one with it.
"Technically" and by official definition even in the UK, something with bits of fruit in it is a jam and something without bits of fruit in it is a jelly....we would have Blackcurrent Jam and Redcurrant Jelly. However, lazily we do tend to put everything under the jam heading. More often than not jam for example is taken as something you would put on toast or in a sandwich, whereas jelly is something you would serve with pate or meat.
Post Merge: April 08, 2012, 09:12:45 AM
Edit:...this is a very weird conversation to be having on the Corral...lol
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However, lazily we do tend to put everything under the jam heading.
Well that's understandable! I'd say here, we lazily put everything under the heading of jelly, even though the terms "jam" and "preserves" are still used a lot.
As for the CMC, I feel that the emphasis on them reminds me of the emphasis on the baby ponies in G1, although less annoying. I think it's a combination of the toys being cheaper to make and the potential for little kid characters to be both cute and more relateable to little kids in the audience. I don't necessarily agree with that second part, but it seems like that might be part of the reasoning. I think reusing the same plot point over and over is lazy, but also a way to keep the story going without dramatic changes to the main characters.
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well in the talent show episode we saw that sweetie belle was good at singing, scootaloo has dancing (but mostly her scooter skills), and apple bloom was best at decorating. even their club house got decorated by her. she's more artistic.
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As for the CMC, I feel that the emphasis on them reminds me of the emphasis on the baby ponies in G1, although less annoying. I think it's a combination of the toys being cheaper to make and the potential for little kid characters to be both cute and more relateable to little kids in the audience. I don't necessarily agree with that second part, but it seems like that might be part of the reasoning. I think reusing the same plot point over and over is lazy, but also a way to keep the story going without dramatic changes to the main characters.
It's got nothing to do with the toys being cheaper. The CMC were all Lauren's idea, and you've seen how long it's taken the show writers and Hasbro's toy department to start working together.
Lauren's idea for the CMC actually included a spinoff aimed at a younger audience. I'm kind of glad that didn't happen.
And I don't want to see any dissing of PB&J from a country that serves fish for breakfast. :P
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I wish that the CMCs would just get their marks already too. I find a couple of the episodes based on them are cute but I easily tire of their antics and after a while they just become repetitive and obnoxious. I don't care how they get them, just make it soon, lol.
And as for the jelly/jam US/UK issue, some people are going to have a field day when the 'cider' episode airs in the UK.
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I supposed I'm still just thinking about how much Hasbro seemed to push baby pony toys with G1 and assumed that that idea would continue even now, but now that I think about it, this is the company that had to hold focus groups to see if little girls would like a G3 pegasus, so maybe I'm giving them too much credit to continue an apparently good idea.
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I thought the UK called a pb&j nutty gum and fruit spleggings?
What!? I've never heard of "nutty-gum and fruit spleggings" lmao!
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I think this is from a "my face when" joke lol.
The CMC are cute, though I am beginning to tire of the CMC-centric episodes, but I wouldn't mind seeing some baby pony toys with cutie marks...
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I wish that the CMCs would just get their marks already too. I find a couple of the episodes based on them are cute but I easily tire of their antics and after a while they just become repetitive and obnoxious. I don't care how they get them, just make it soon, lol.
And as for the jelly/jam US/UK issue, some people are going to have a field day when the 'cider' episode airs in the UK.
oh dear why whats wrong with the cider eppisode?
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It's got nothing to do with the toys being cheaper. The CMC were all Lauren's idea, and you've seen how long it's taken the show writers and Hasbro's toy department to start working together.
Lauren's idea for the CMC actually included a spinoff aimed at a younger audience. I'm kind of glad that didn't happen.
Do you have a source for this information? That's not what I heard at all. On Deviant Art Lauren Faust said originally she only proposed one baby pony as a main cast member, Apple Bloom--whose name was originally Apple Seed (to symbolize her potential). Hasbro then either suggested or demanded (I don't know which) that the single symbol-less baby be increased to a trio, thus the Cutie Mark Crusaders came to be.
I haven't heard anything about a proposed spin-off.
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I wish that the CMCs would just get their marks already too. I find a couple of the episodes based on them are cute but I easily tire of their antics and after a while they just become repetitive and obnoxious. I don't care how they get them, just make it soon, lol.
And as for the jelly/jam US/UK issue, some people are going to have a field day when the 'cider' episode airs in the UK.
oh dear why whats wrong with the cider eppisode?
I haven't seen it yet, but I have visions of ponies getting drunk, lol! ^_^
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I wish that the CMCs would just get their marks already too. I find a couple of the episodes based on them are cute but I easily tire of their antics and after a while they just become repetitive and obnoxious. I don't care how they get them, just make it soon, lol.
And as for the jelly/jam US/UK issue, some people are going to have a field day when the 'cider' episode airs in the UK.
oh dear why whats wrong with the cider eppisode?
I would imagine the fact that cider in America is normally non alcoholic but in the UK drinking cider tends to mean cheap plastic bottles of alcohol from the supermarket
Either the ponies of Ponyville are all closet alcoholics or the cider they were drinking was simply apple juice...
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Yeah, in the US and I guess Canada, cider is just stronger-tasting, unfiltered apple juice produced in the fall, and is more common that hard cider, which has alcohol.
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Do you have a source for this information? That's not what I heard at all.
Argh, I know I saw it on her DA, but finding anything on there is impossible! This obviously would have been after Hasbro asked (and yes, they did ask) to have Apple SeedBloom given companions.