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I just want to point out that "I did it and I didn't come to harm, so obviously it's okay!" is a fallacious argument.First of all, we have plenty of community members with health problems. Were they caused by lead? Beats me; but it's a possibility.Second, anecdotes are not the same as scientifically gathered data. You could find an 80 year old man who smoked every day of his life and has no health problems, but that doesn't mean that cigarettes are good for you; it means he was lucky. (I actually had someone in real life tell me that he didn't exercise because he knew someone who had a heart attack while jogging, and therefore he had concluded that exercise was bad for you. I was just like " . . . . okay then.") So, even if someone chewed on a G1 every day and didn't have health problems, that isn't 'proof' that they don't have the potential to cause health problems in a wider population.Third, IIRC lead builds up, and the more builds up the more chances you have of medical problems. So, it's possible that a lot of kids DID ingest lead from G1s--but not enough to start causing medical problems. And, again, that doesn't mean G1s are "safe".Fourth, I think you need to be vigilant against perception bias, the tendency to WANT to believe something regardless of the evidence. I would like to believe that G1s are perfectly safe. But if I ignore evidence just because I want to believe that . . . then I am not really being honest with myself. I'm just telling myself what I want to hear.Personally I would be wary about giving G1 ponies to kids, especially very young kids. Both because they are more likely to stick things in their mouth and because lead is much worse for kids than for adults.
Yep it did. It was my 1996 Pokemon annual. Tried cleaning it but the stain didn't come off. So I had to bin it.
I want to see a proper report and study into this before we assume anything. Because sometimes assumptions and fears have more harmful consequences than the reality.
Quote from: Loa on June 11, 2017, 03:06:38 AMOh the things I put in my mouth when I was young... ponies are NOTHING to worry about.This may not actually be true or at least a false equivalency. Plastic, like many materials, degrades over time. What was perfectly safe 30 years ago may not chemically be the same today. Some things get less dangerous as they age, others get more so, but no matter which way you slice the pie entropy always wins.
Oh the things I put in my mouth when I was young... ponies are NOTHING to worry about.
Quote from: Baby Sugarberry on June 12, 2017, 08:51:01 PMQuote from: Loa on June 11, 2017, 03:06:38 AMOh the things I put in my mouth when I was young... ponies are NOTHING to worry about.This may not actually be true or at least a false equivalency. Plastic, like many materials, degrades over time. What was perfectly safe 30 years ago may not chemically be the same today. Some things get less dangerous as they age, others get more so, but no matter which way you slice the pie entropy always wins.I'll save you Baby Sugar Berry! Send all your G1s my way!
Quote from: Leave a Whisper on June 16, 2017, 03:26:11 PMQuote from: Baby Sugarberry on June 12, 2017, 08:51:01 PMQuote from: Loa on June 11, 2017, 03:06:38 AMOh the things I put in my mouth when I was young... ponies are NOTHING to worry about.This may not actually be true or at least a false equivalency. Plastic, like many materials, degrades over time. What was perfectly safe 30 years ago may not chemically be the same today. Some things get less dangerous as they age, others get more so, but no matter which way you slice the pie entropy always wins.I'll save you Baby Sugar Berry! Send all your G1s my way! Pfft, as if. Nice try, but it'll take more than a possible trace of lead to pry my ponies from me. Really it just comes down to common sense - ponies are old (fact) they were made in an era that had less stringent safety standards (fact), there is no substantive evidence that they are or are not harmful (fact), and most children are prone to putting things in their mouths that shouldn't go there (fact). In light of those things, it's logical to keep ponies away from those too young to know better than to chew anything they can get their sticky fingers on, protecting both the hypothetical ponies and kids involved. Simple enough.
They do pose a choking hazard if you try to swallow them. I don't believe the 3-and-under warning, they still stick in my throat and I'm four. Lead paint is only harmful if eaten so if ponies do contain lead, just don't put the ponies in your mouth like I do, or lick your fingers after handling them like I do, or put them in your fruit smoothies like I do...I mean, I don't do any of those things.